Re: Looking seriously at addiction

[JJ]

Stuart? You talked so nicely when you wrote to me personally....then....you
do the "shake his hand and pick his pocket at the same time"....how
sad.....and Rosie? I'm not doc....please tell me....what mental illness is
that we are suffering from?......Besides the accompanying
depression...anxiety....and other disorders that have nothing to do with
alcoholism.
"stuart" <fred@outerspace.jetsons> wrote in message
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>
> "rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:UuCJa.105379$Xl.1960206@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > "JJ" <jakervik@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ggtJa.1023059$OV.1119721@rwcrnsc54...
> >
> >
> > >....but...Doc? My lack of
> > > serotonin has nothing to do with my abstinence from booze.
> >
> > if you are truly "working in the field" you are obviously, woefully,
> behind in your CEU's.
> >
> > indeed the DSM IV and ICD and CPT Codes do list alcohlism under both
> physical AND mental disease!
> > rosie
>
> And one very strong personality trait of us alcoholics is to be easily
> offended by criticism, very acutely critical and judgmental of others
isn't
> it?
> And we jump to conclusions too. I don't work professionally in the field
of
> alcoholism, he just assumed that.
> He really is beginning to sound more and more like someone with untreated
> alcoholism;-)
>
> >
>
>

[stuart]

"JJ" <jakervik@attbi.com> wrote in message
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> Stuart? You talked so nicely when you wrote to me
personally....then....you
> do the "shake his hand and pick his pocket at the same time"....how
> sad.....and Rosie? I'm not doc....please tell me....what mental illness is
> that we are suffering from?......Besides the accompanying
> depression...anxiety....and other disorders that have nothing to do with
> alcoholism.

No, but they have everything to do with you don't they? Is it not the same
you, who is having problems with alcohol?
Getting a bit sensitive, JJ?. Not picking your pocket JJ, just trying to
describe your responses as they appear to be to me, at any rate.
PS, about the "doc" part, surely you can take a joke. You probably know more
about depression/anxiety disorders than I ever will;-)


> "stuart" <fred@outerspace.jetsons> wrote in message
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> >
> > "rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:UuCJa.105379$Xl.1960206@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > > "JJ" <jakervik@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ggtJa.1023059$OV.1119721@rwcrnsc54...
> > >
> > >
> > > >....but...Doc? My lack of
> > > > serotonin has nothing to do with my abstinence from booze.
> > >
> > > if you are truly "working in the field" you are obviously, woefully,
> > behind in your CEU's.
> > >
> > > indeed the DSM IV and ICD and CPT Codes do list alcohlism under both
> > physical AND mental disease!
> > > rosie
> >
> > And one very strong personality trait of us alcoholics is to be easily
> > offended by criticism, very acutely critical and judgmental of others
> isn't
> > it?
> > And we jump to conclusions too. I don't work professionally in the field
> of
> > alcoholism, he just assumed that.
> > He really is beginning to sound more and more like someone with
untreated
> > alcoholism;-)
> >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[stuart]

"rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> .....and Rosie? I'm not doc....please tell me....what mental illness is
> > that we are suffering from?......Besides the accompanying
> > depression...anxiety....and other disorders that have nothing to do with
> > alcoholism.
>
>
> JJ,
> as hard as i try, i cannot figure out what you mean by the above post.
> i sincerely want to

I was referring to the peculiar form of insanity alcoholics suffer from
right before they take a drink. JJ, you might try reading the story of Jim,
the car salesman, in Chapter 3 of the BB. You'll see my point too, Rosie,
although I am sure you are familiar with the story of Jim.

[The Other Harry]

[On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 20:12:53 -0500, "rosie readandpost"
<readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:]

> > ...and Rosie? I'm not doc....please tell me....what mental illness is
> > that we are suffering from?......Besides the accompanying
> > depression...anxiety....and other disorders that have nothing to do with
> > alcoholism.
>
> JJ,
> as hard as i try, i cannot figure out what you mean by the above post.
> i sincerely want to!

All there is to understand there is that our friend JJ has at
best a very shallow understanding of alcoholism. He may be
able to catch a fish in his little pond if he tries hard
enough to do so, but it isn't a pond that would be worth
hiking very far to get to. There are better places to fish
that are much closer by.

Harry

[Moonraker]

"The Other Harry" <hc.me@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> He may be
> able to catch a fish in his little pond if he tries hard
> enough to do so, but it isn't a pond that would be worth
> hiking very far to get to. There are better places to fish
> that are much closer by.
>
> Harry
>

It does appear to be a rather shallow gene pool, doesn't it?

[rosie readandpost]

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rosie



"stuart" <fred@outerspace.jetsons> wrote in message news:LXNJa.26773$Mc4.4130960@news0.telusplanet.net ...
>
> "rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:7yNJa.143776$jT4.2583135@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > .....and Rosie? I'm not doc....please tell me....what mental illness is
> > > that we are suffering from?......Besides the accompanying
> > > depression...anxiety....and other disorders that have nothing to do with
> > > alcoholism.
> >
> >
> > JJ,
> > as hard as i try, i cannot figure out what you mean by the above post.
> > i sincerely want to
>
> I was referring to the peculiar form of insanity alcoholics suffer from
> right before they take a drink. JJ, you might try reading the story of Jim,
> the car salesman, in Chapter 3 of the BB. You'll see my point too, Rosie,
> although I am sure you are familiar with the story of Jim.
>
>

i sure am!

[rosie readandpost]

> All there is to understand there is that our friend JJ has at
> best a very shallow understanding of alcoholism. He may be
> able to catch a fish in his little pond if he tries hard
> enough to do so, but it isn't a pond that would be worth
> hiking very far to get to. There are better places to fish
> that are much closer by.
>
> Harry
>

:)

[rosie readandpost]

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read and post daily, it works!
rosie



"Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:BxXJa.6659$XR4.5272@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
>
> "The Other Harry" <hc.me@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:usggfvc7jcq22kesigd07v89spj3kkmdei@4ax.com...
> > He may be
> > able to catch a fish in his little pond if he tries hard
> > enough to do so, but it isn't a pond that would be worth
> > hiking very far to get to. There are better places to fish
> > that are much closer by.
> >
> > Harry
> >
>
> It does appear to be a rather shallow gene pool, doesn't it?
>
>
>

moon,
why go for the personal attack?

[Robert McGregor]

"rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> --
> read and post daily, it works!
> rosie
>
>
>
> "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > "The Other Harry" <hc.me@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:usggfvc7jcq22kesigd07v89spj3kkmdei@4ax.com...
> > > He may be
> > > able to catch a fish in his little pond if he tries hard
> > > enough to do so, but it isn't a pond that would be worth
> > > hiking very far to get to. There are better places to fish
> > > that are much closer by.
> > >
> > > Harry
> > >
> >
> > It does appear to be a rather shallow gene pool, doesn't it?
> >
> >
> >
>
> moon,
> why go for the personal attack?
>
hahahahahahaha

[Moonraker]

"rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> --
> read and post daily, it works!
> rosie
>
>
>
> "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:BxXJa.6659$XR4.5272@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
> >
> > "The Other Harry" <hc.me@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:usggfvc7jcq22kesigd07v89spj3kkmdei@4ax.com...
> > > He may be
> > > able to catch a fish in his little pond if he tries hard
> > > enough to do so, but it isn't a pond that would be worth
> > > hiking very far to get to. There are better places to fish
> > > that are much closer by.
> > >
> > > Harry
> > >
> >
> > It does appear to be a rather shallow gene pool, doesn't it?
> >
> >
> >
>
> moon,
> why go for the personal attack?
>
>
>
pot, kettle again. Two times today already. Like you don't take a swipe at
everyone who disagrees with you?