Where has everyone gone?

[Kirk S]

Hi all,

The group (or my ISPs mirror) doesn't seem to be getting much activity. Got
eight or so inches of snow last night and today so I'm pretty much stuck
around the computer.

Hope everyone is staying nice and sane...

Kirk S.

[Ron]

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 03:58:22 GMT, Kirk S <kspradling@nospamkc.rr.com> wrote:

> Hope everyone is staying nice and sane...

Nice? Sane?

Does anyone watch the Red/Green show on PBS? The 'Man's Prayer' at the
end always cracks me up. 'I'm a man ... and I can change ... if I have
to ... I guess.'

--
AB5DB9CC

[Julie LaRue]

Red/Green is one funny man. I only wish i could watch him here in NC.
Julie

"Ron" <can@the.spam> wrote in message
news:DQEUb.185508$sv6.968585@attbi_s52...
> On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 03:58:22 GMT, Kirk S <kspradling@nospamkc.rr.com>
wrote:
>
> > Hope everyone is staying nice and sane...
>
> Nice? Sane?
>
> Does anyone watch the Red/Green show on PBS? The 'Man's Prayer' at the
> end always cracks me up. 'I'm a man ... and I can change ... if I have
> to ... I guess.'
>
> --
> AB5DB9CC

[Christine]

>Hi all,
>
>The group (or my ISPs mirror) doesn't seem to be getting much activity. Got
>eight or so inches of snow last night and today so I'm pretty much stuck
>around the computer.
>
>Hope everyone is staying nice and sane...

Hi Kirk ... no snow here as of yet, but we are expected to get a storm
tomorrow. yucky-poo. Can't really complain much, however, because i leave for
the Carribean bright and super early Sunday morning - yippie!

I haven't packed, and I'm working 12 hours tomorrow, 10 on Saturday, then I
have my meeting Sat. night ... hmm... I probably should have thought about this
before now, eh? LOL Oh well, it will get done. no worries.

Besides that, all is well ... everyone might be happy to hear that God has done
a wonderful job removing any obsession of alcohol from me. No cravings, no
missing the "good old days", I go hours without even thinking about it - HA!
Now it's time to really put my mind to work and start to recover ... the
emotional stuff (and yes, I mean stuff ... more like crap) is a doosey. Last
week I was numb. Numbed from my weekend binge ... this week as been full of
tears, screams, break downs left and right. Thanks to what I've learned,
however, I am better able to pinpoint the cause of all of them - the *true*
cause, that is. I've done a lot of praying ... a lot of praying. I a lot of
praying, and a bit of meditation.

And blah blah blah ... I'm procrastinating. I should go to bed. LOL

All the best to everyone,
-Christine

[Kirk S]

"Christine" <ctbean3@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040205234345.22865.00001464@mb-m04.aol.com...
> >Hi all,
> >
> >The group (or my ISPs mirror) doesn't seem to be getting much activity.
Got
> >eight or so inches of snow last night and today so I'm pretty much stuck
> >around the computer.
> >
> >Hope everyone is staying nice and sane...
>
> Hi Kirk ... no snow here as of yet, but we are expected to get a storm
> tomorrow. yucky-poo. Can't really complain much, however, because i
leave for
> the Carribean bright and super early Sunday morning - yippie!

Send some pics for us poor folks, eh?

>
> I haven't packed, and I'm working 12 hours tomorrow, 10 on Saturday, then
I
> have my meeting Sat. night ... hmm... I probably should have thought about
this
> before now, eh? LOL Oh well, it will get done. no worries.
>
> Besides that, all is well ... everyone might be happy to hear that God has
done
> a wonderful job removing any obsession of alcohol from me. No cravings,
no
> missing the "good old days", I go hours without even thinking about it -
HA!
> Now it's time to really put my mind to work and start to recover ... the
> emotional stuff (and yes, I mean stuff ... more like crap) is a doosey.
Last
> week I was numb. Numbed from my weekend binge ... this week as been full
of
> tears, screams, break downs left and right. Thanks to what I've learned,
> however, I am better able to pinpoint the cause of all of them - the
*true*
> cause, that is. I've done a lot of praying ... a lot of praying. I a lot
of
> praying, and a bit of meditation.

Not break downs, break throughs...
>
> And blah blah blah ... I'm procrastinating. I should go to bed. LOL
>
> All the best to everyone,
> -Christine

I'm jealous... A vacation and I'm looking for work!

Kirk S.

[Fred Exley]

Wow, you sound SO much better this week than last week Christine! What a
difference just a little sober time can make. My cravings have gone away
too, subject to change without notice of course. I don't know about you,
but airports were a major excuse for me to drink at all hours -there's
always drinkers in the morning at airport bars, and for some reason it's not
considered unusual. Next time I'm in one I'll have a good book or two to
keep me out of the bar. And vacations sure do invite celebrating... so be
careful... -Fred




"Christine" <ctbean3@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040205234345.22865.00001464@mb-m04.aol.com...
> >Hi all,
> >
> >The group (or my ISPs mirror) doesn't seem to be getting much activity.
Got
> >eight or so inches of snow last night and today so I'm pretty much stuck
> >around the computer.
> >
> >Hope everyone is staying nice and sane...
>
> Hi Kirk ... no snow here as of yet, but we are expected to get a storm
> tomorrow. yucky-poo. Can't really complain much, however, because i
leave for
> the Carribean bright and super early Sunday morning - yippie!
>
> I haven't packed, and I'm working 12 hours tomorrow, 10 on Saturday, then
I
> have my meeting Sat. night ... hmm... I probably should have thought about
this
> before now, eh? LOL Oh well, it will get done. no worries.
>
> Besides that, all is well ... everyone might be happy to hear that God has
done
> a wonderful job removing any obsession of alcohol from me. No cravings,
no
> missing the "good old days", I go hours without even thinking about it -
HA!
> Now it's time to really put my mind to work and start to recover ... the
> emotional stuff (and yes, I mean stuff ... more like crap) is a doosey.
Last
> week I was numb. Numbed from my weekend binge ... this week as been full
of
> tears, screams, break downs left and right. Thanks to what I've learned,
> however, I am better able to pinpoint the cause of all of them - the
*true*
> cause, that is. I've done a lot of praying ... a lot of praying. I a lot
of
> praying, and a bit of meditation.
>
> And blah blah blah ... I'm procrastinating. I should go to bed. LOL
>
> All the best to everyone,
> -Christine

[rosie]

"Fred Exley" <fexly221@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1026gmq50cbh465@corp.supernews.com...
>..................... I don't know about you,
> but airports were a major excuse for me to drink at all hours -


oh yeah.................me too!
sitting in the bars, drinking and
smoking...........................i LOVED going to airports!




>.................there's
> always drinkers in the morning at airport bars, and for some
reason it's not
> considered unusual.


but, of course!
:)


>............... And vacations sure do invite celebrating... so be
> careful... -Fred
>
>


great point fred.................until i learned what REAL
celebration was for me in my new life, i needed to be VERY CAREFUL!
i hope that christine will get to meetings while on vacation, AA IS
EVERYWHERE!

rosie

[Kirk S]

" rosie" <readandpostNO-NO@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:FGMUb.27197$2h.7859@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> "Fred Exley" <fexly221@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1026gmq50cbh465@corp.supernews.com...
> >..................... I don't know about you,
> > but airports were a major excuse for me to drink at all hours -
>
>
> oh yeah.................me too!
> sitting in the bars, drinking and
> smoking...........................i LOVED going to airports!
>
>
I always preferred to drink ALONE... And way too expensive!

>
>
> >.................there's
> > always drinkers in the morning at airport bars, and for some
> reason it's not
> > considered unusual.
>
>
> but, of course!
> :)

On the golf course, at 8am it was noon somewhere...

>
>
> >............... And vacations sure do invite celebrating... so be
> > careful... -Fred
> >
> >
>
>
> great point fred.................until i learned what REAL
> celebration was for me in my new life, i needed to be VERY CAREFUL!
> i hope that christine will get to meetings while on vacation, AA IS
> EVERYWHERE!

Yeah... Sometimes feeling too good can result in wanting to feel bad.
Learning to rethink fun and being happy without being altered is my biggest
task.

Kirk S.
>
> rosie
>
>

[rosie]

>
> Yeah... Sometimes feeling too good can result in wanting to feel
bad.
> Learning to rethink fun and being happy without being altered is
my biggest
> task.
>
> Kirk S.


great point kirk, and absolutely true for me......................


"who could blame me for drinking................look how tough my
life is"..................
(use to be my theme song)

[Kirk S]

" rosie" <readandpostNO-NO@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11OUb.27251$2h.9286@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
>
> >
> > Yeah... Sometimes feeling too good can result in wanting to feel
> bad.
> > Learning to rethink fun and being happy without being altered is
> my biggest
> > task.
> >
> > Kirk S.
>
>
> great point kirk, and absolutely true for me......................
>
>
> "who could blame me for drinking................look how tough my
> life is"..................
> (use to be my theme song)
>

Yeah, me too! We are all more alike than different! Terminal uniqueness is
dangerous...

Typical victim mentality. Leads to feelings of low self-esteem and we all
know where that leads... I'm worthless, nobody cares, what difference does
it make anyway. Poor me, poor me, hey bartender! Pour me another one!

The resentment thread really helped me realize how I victimize myself and
never really looked at how I participated in the things that left me angry
because "I was taken advantage of".

Not playing the victim is part of my return to sanity.

Kirk S.
>

[Robert McGregor]

" rosie" <readandpostNO-NO@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11OUb.27251$2h.9286@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
>
> >
> > Yeah... Sometimes feeling too good can result in wanting to feel
> bad.
> > Learning to rethink fun and being happy without being altered is
> my biggest
> > task.
> >
> > Kirk S.
>
>
> great point kirk, and absolutely true for me......................
>
>
> "who could blame me for drinking................look how tough my
> life is"..................
> (use to be my theme song)
>

Who can blame you for drugging................look how tough your life
is, that's indisputably your theme song now.
From: "rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>

Message-ID: <3jXQa.2067$o27.61834@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>


>your continued reference to my mental illness and the necessary
medication that it takes, certainly points out how
>uneducated you really are.

"rosie@readandpost" wrote in Message
<uoCc6.24059$Af.608669@typhoon.mw.mediaone.net>

>if there is a "better" antidepressant out there, i sure would like to
read
>about it!


http://www.soulcare.org/Counseling/Medicine-Counseling.html
Peter Breggin, M.D., & David Cohen, Ph.D., in YOUR DRUG MAY BE YOUR
PROBLEM:
HOW AND WHY TO STOP TAKING PSYCHIATRIC MEDICATIONS. 1999.
"Psychiatric drugs are much more dangerous than many consumers and
even
physicians realize. All of these drugs produce numerous serious and
potentially fatal adverse reactions, and most are capable of causing
withdrawal problems that are emotionally and physically distressing."
(p.
ix)

"If people do feel better when drinking alcohol or smoking marijuana,
it is
because they feel better when their brain is impaired. Psychiatric
drugs are
no different. The people . . . may feel less of their emotional
suffering.
They may even reach a state of relative anesthesia. But to the degree
that
they feel better, it is because they are experiencing intoxication
with the
drugs." (p. 2)

Bob

[rosie]

> The resentment thread really helped me realize how I victimize
myself and
> never really looked at how I participated in the things that left
me angry
> because "I was taken advantage of".
>
> Not playing the victim is part of my return to sanity.


and GREAT advise for all of us!
thanks kirk!

[rosie]

> They may even reach a state of relative anesthesia.





anesthesia?
ROTFLMAO!

oy vey, the references you come up with robert!
;)

[Robert McGregor]

" rosie" <readandpostNO-NO@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:owOUb.27271$2h.282@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> > The resentment thread really helped me realize how I victimize
> myself and
> > never really looked at how I participated in the things that left
> me angry
> > because "I was taken advantage of".
> >
> > Not playing the victim is part of my return to sanity.
>
>
> and GREAT advise for all of us!
> thanks kirk!
>

Why all of us?

Bob

[Robert McGregor]

" rosie" <readandpostNO-NO@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:CxOUb.27272$2h.12714@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > They may even reach a state of relative anesthesia.
>
>
>
>
>
> anesthesia?
> ROTFLMAO!
>
> oy vey, the references you come up with robert!
> ;)
>

Yes, it is a good one. Certainly one explanation for your refusal to
communicate much further than your prolific arse licking.

Bob

[Christine]

>great point fred.................until i learned what REAL
>celebration was for me in my new life, i needed to be VERY CAREFUL!
>i hope that christine will get to meetings while on vacation, AA IS
>EVERYWHERE!
>

I went to the website, it's a Disney cruise, and tried to find if there wold be
meetings on board ... even look nder "people with disabilities" lol! No info
.... everyone tells me there will be "friends of Bill W" meetings every morning.
i sure do hope so ...

[Robert McGregor]

"Christine" <ctbean3@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040206105052.28446.00001436@mb-m15.aol.com...
> >great point fred.................until i learned what REAL
> >celebration was for me in my new life, i needed to be VERY CAREFUL!
> >i hope that christine will get to meetings while on vacation, AA IS
> >EVERYWHERE!
> >
>
> I went to the website, it's a Disney cruise, and tried to find if
there wold be
> meetings on board ... even look nder "people with disabilities" lol!
No info
> ... everyone tells me there will be "friends of Bill W" meetings
every morning.
> i sure do hope so ...

If it's that important to you, and there is no meeting. guess all you
need to do is ask a co-coordinator for a space, and a coffee pot, and
put a notice on the board, or whatever. Then, there *will* be a
meeting, every morning, noon, and night, if you want.

Bob

[rosie]

usually, on a cruise, there ARE meetings, and they are listed under:
FRIENDS OF BILL W.

you can request that you be given a daily place to have one, and
request that the notice be posted.
they will accommodate you!

--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie

Congress has the power to censure the President -- to formally
reprimand him for his betrayal of the nation's trust. If ever there
was a time to use this function, it is now. Join the call for
Congress to censure President Bush now at:
http://www.moveon.org/censure/?id=-1555727-LwxVozqbsXUubaCq5RHn6g



"Christine" <ctbean3@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040206105052.28446.00001436@mb-m15.aol.com...
> >great point fred.................until i learned what REAL
> >celebration was for me in my new life, i needed to be VERY
CAREFUL!
> >i hope that christine will get to meetings while on vacation, AA
IS
> >EVERYWHERE!
> >
>
> I went to the website, it's a Disney cruise, and tried to find if
there wold be
> meetings on board ... even look nder "people with disabilities"
lol! No info
> ... everyone tells me there will be "friends of Bill W" meetings
every morning.
> i sure do hope so ...

[Christine]

>> >great point fred.................until i learned what REAL
>> >celebration was for me in my new life, i needed to be VERY CAREFUL!
>> >i hope that christine will get to meetings while on vacation, AA IS
>> >EVERYWHERE!
>> >
>>
>> I went to the website, it's a Disney cruise, and tried to find if
>there wold be
>> meetings on board ... even look nder "people with disabilities" lol!
>No info
>> ... everyone tells me there will be "friends of Bill W" meetings
>every morning.
>> i sure do hope so ...
>
>If it's that important to you, and there is no meeting. guess all you
>need to do is ask a co-coordinator for a space, and a coffee pot, and
>put a notice on the board, or whatever. Then, there *will* be a
>meeting, every morning, noon, and night, if you want.

Nice! HA! That would be great ...

[Robert McGregor]

" rosie" <readandpostNO-NO@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rVOUb.27283$2h.11289@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> usually, on a cruise, there ARE meetings, and they are listed under:
> FRIENDS OF BILL W.
>
> you can request that you be given a daily place to have one, and
> request that the notice be posted.
> they will accommodate you!
>

hahaha, that revived memories of the last verbose nurse here before
rosie, Jane M. Kelley. A tad more lucid and apparently more
knowledgeable than our rosie, Jane was amongst the Friends of Dr Bob!

http://blank.org/link/?q=1076083911

Can't pretend there's no factions, eh Ron;-)

Bob

[Ron]

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 02:23:04 +1000, Robert McGregor
<robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> " rosie" <readandpostNO-NO@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:rVOUb.27283$2h.11289@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> usually, on a cruise, there ARE meetings, and they are listed under:
>> FRIENDS OF BILL W.
>>
>> you can request that you be given a daily place to have one, and
>> request that the notice be posted.
>> they will accommodate you!
>>
>
> hahaha, that revived memories of the last verbose nurse here before
> rosie, Jane M. Kelley. A tad more lucid and apparently more
> knowledgeable than our rosie, Jane was amongst the Friends of Dr Bob!
>
> http://blank.org/link/?q=1076083911
>
> Can't pretend there's no factions, eh Ron;-)

I like this bit on the second link:

'But if you use that phrase in certain parts of Seattle, "friend of
Dr. Bob" means you're seeking a very specific heroin dealer.'

Factions within factions..

--
AB5DB9CC

[jim]

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 01:41:36 +1000, "Robert McGregor"
<robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>
>" rosie" <readandpostNO-NO@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:owOUb.27271$2h.282@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>
>> > The resentment thread really helped me realize how I victimize
>> myself and
>> > never really looked at how I participated in the things that left
>> me angry
>> > because "I was taken advantage of".
>> >
>> > Not playing the victim is part of my return to sanity.
>>
>>
>> and GREAT advise for all of us!
>> thanks kirk!
>>
>
>Why all of us?
>
>Bob
>
Hey Bob have you ever got anything good to say? You always have some
smart-ass comment,never anything usefull.Just arrogant crap.
jim

[Robert McGregor]

"jim" <dingdong46@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:a1gj20t4d3mn0qh55e1j2q54dbv07kql39@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 01:41:36 +1000, "Robert McGregor"
> <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> >
> >" rosie" <readandpostNO-NO@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:owOUb.27271$2h.282@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >>
> >> > The resentment thread really helped me realize how I victimize
> >> myself and
> >> > never really looked at how I participated in the things that
left
> >> me angry
> >> > because "I was taken advantage of".
> >> >
> >> > Not playing the victim is part of my return to sanity.
> >>
> >>
> >> and GREAT advise for all of us!
> >> thanks kirk!
> >>
> >
> >Why all of us?
> >
> >Bob
> >
> Hey Bob have you ever got anything good to say? You always have some
> smart-ass comment,never anything usefull.Just arrogant crap.
> jim

Are you trying to get me to play victim to your crap?

Bob

[Blue Moon]

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 05:41:12 GMT, jim <dingdong46@shaw.ca> wrote:

>On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 01:41:36 +1000, "Robert McGregor"
><robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>>" rosie" <readandpostNO-NO@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:owOUb.27271$2h.282@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>>
>>> > The resentment thread really helped me realize how I victimize
>>> myself and
>>> > never really looked at how I participated in the things that left
>>> me angry
>>> > because "I was taken advantage of".
>>> >
>>> > Not playing the victim is part of my return to sanity.
>>>
>>>
>>> and GREAT advise for all of us!
>>> thanks kirk!
>>>
>>
>>Why all of us?
>>
>>Bob
>>
>Hey Bob have you ever got anything good to say? You always have some
>smart-ass comment,never anything usefull.Just arrogant crap.

Well Jim, if your own comment wasn't smart-assed, arrogant, and
lacking in something good to say, I'm probably not clear on the
definition of the terms.

Robert does have good things to say. But, like with anybody else, one
needs to "take what you need and leave the rest" in order to find it.
Meanwhile, if you really can't stomach a particular personality, I
would suggest prudent use of a killfile.

--
Blue Moon

[rosie]

"jim" <dingdong46@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:a1gj20t4d3mn0qh55e1j2q54dbv07kql39@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 01:41:36 +1000, "Robert McGregor"
> <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>

> >Why all of us?
> >
> >Bob
> >
> Hey Bob have you ever got anything good to say? You always have
some
> smart-ass comment,never anything usefull.Just arrogant crap.
> jim


LOL!
is he still at it?

my guess?
his computer is down in the head, he's taken on water, and NEMO has
crowned him king!

[Ron]

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 05:41:12 GMT, jim <dingdong46@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hey Bob have you ever got anything good to say? You always have some
> smart-ass comment,never anything usefull.Just arrogant crap.

Hey, watch yourself there fortunate son. Don't you know Bob is the gold
standard of recovery? He'll learn you good and proper, just you see.

Don't worry yourself too much about Bob's vicissitude. He gets his
panties in a bunch sometimes, and it gives him gas. Sometimes the butt
floss gets so tight it even messes up his line wrap. A few burps and a
little reflux, though, and he seems to feel much better.

--
AB5DB9CC

[jim]

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:54:43 GMT, Ron <can@the.spam> wrote:

>On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 05:41:12 GMT, jim <dingdong46@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hey Bob have you ever got anything good to say? You always have some
>> smart-ass comment,never anything usefull.Just arrogant crap.
>
>Hey, watch yourself there fortunate son. Don't you know Bob is the gold
>standard of recovery? He'll learn you good and proper, just you see.
>
>Don't worry yourself too much about Bob's vicissitude. He gets his
>panties in a bunch sometimes, and it gives him gas. Sometimes the butt
>floss gets so tight it even messes up his line wrap. A few burps and a
>little reflux, though, and he seems to feel much bette

Ok, sorry Bob, i guess i forgot to "live and let live". I'm quite new
at sobriety and the program of AA and should not get involved in flame
wars on news groups.
Jim