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Robert McGregor
01-23-2004, 05:30 PM
"LeoG76" <netsleog@netscape.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Ted H. wrote:
> > On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:43:29 GMT,
> > LeoG76 <netsleog@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> Ted - AA's tradition may be anonymity, but an individual not
> representing AA and raising funds has to be accountable.
> 'rn' doesn't have to disclose his AA invlovment, but to have
> creditability he has to inform us how, when and to whom
> the money's will be spent. Recovering from a hopeless state of mind and
> body shouldn't include be taken by someone
> using a situation involving AA. This sounds like the old con "if you
> want to know how to make money - send $5 to the
> this address...." the response is thanks for the $5 and that's how you
> make money. 'rn' needs accountability not only
> to Matthew, but to the people he wants to assist in this defense. No
> valid identification - no money. We use the 7th
> Tradition in our group - we always account to where the money is spent.
>
> >
> > Hi Leo,
> >
> > Funds will go to rn@aamo.info -- a member of the AA Big Book Study
> > Group. The individual's name is being kept anonymous to observe
> > AA's tradition of public anonymity. The money will be used for web
> > site maintenance, and for reimbursement of expenses from defending
> > against lawsuits brought by AAWS Inc. and its international franchises.
> > Although no specific names are mentioned on the PayPal page, Matthew's
> > legal expenses will be supported.
> >
Dr. Bob on Tradition Eleven

We need always maintain personal anonymity
at the level of press, radio and films.


Dr. Bob, co-founder of AA, commented on Tradition Eleven as follows:
"Since our Tradition on anonymity designates the exact level where the
line should be held, it must be obvious to everyone who can read and
understand the English language that to maintain anonymity at any other
level is definitely a violation of this Tradition.

The AA who hides his identity from his fellow AA by using only a given
name violates the Tradition just as much as the AA who permits his name
to appear in the press in connection with matters pertaining to AA.


The former is maintaining his anonymity ABOVE the level of press,
radio, and films, and the latter is maintaining his anonymity BELOW the
level of press, radio, and films - whereas the Tradition states that we
should maintain our anonymity AT the level of press, radio, and
films. "



Reprinted from the February 1969 Grapevine

LeoG76
01-23-2004, 08:36 PM
Robert - this person is not representing AA, nor is AA collecting the
money. They need not identify themselves as an AA member.
They cannot identify themselves as representing AA. They can be private
individuals and account for the monies. I am not asking
to break anonymity, just make the funds accountable.


Robert McGregor wrote:
> "LeoG76" <netsleog@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:1_qdnbw5fvpUHIzdRVn-vA@adelphia.com...
>

>
> Dr. Bob on Tradition Eleven
>
> We need always maintain personal anonymity
> at the level of press, radio and films.
>
>
> Dr. Bob, co-founder of AA, commented on Tradition Eleven as follows:
> "Since our Tradition on anonymity designates the exact level where the
> line should be held, it must be obvious to everyone who can read and
> understand the English language that to maintain anonymity at any other
> level is definitely a violation of this Tradition.
>
> The AA who hides his identity from his fellow AA by using only a given
> name violates the Tradition just as much as the AA who permits his name
> to appear in the press in connection with matters pertaining to AA.
>
>
> The former is maintaining his anonymity ABOVE the level of press,
> radio, and films, and the latter is maintaining his anonymity BELOW the
> level of press, radio, and films - whereas the Tradition states that we
> should maintain our anonymity AT the level of press, radio, and
> films. "
>
>
>
> Reprinted from the February 1969 Grapevine
>
>

Jim Blair
01-23-2004, 11:03 PM
"LeoG76" wrote
I am not asking to break anonymity, just make the funds accountable.

They need no mortal bean counters, they are only accountable to God!
Jim

LeoG76
01-24-2004, 08:53 AM
Amen Jim, Amen.

Jim Blair wrote:
> "LeoG76" wrote
> I am not asking to break anonymity, just make the funds accountable.
>
> They need no mortal bean counters, they are only accountable to God!
> Jim
>