Brett Favre -- reformed alcoholic

[The Other Harry]

If you happen to watch the Green Bay / Philadelphia game
tomorrow, bear in mind that Brett Favre in a reformed
alcoholic and Vicodin addict. He once had a seizure in front
of his daughter.

Here are links to a couple nice articles about him that
appeared today:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3902981/

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/7675219.htm

[Moonraker]

"The Other Harry" <hc.me@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:fl31005rkc5e46absuvjk3nh1gkml92tom@4ax.com...
> If you happen to watch the Green Bay / Philadelphia game
> tomorrow, bear in mind that Brett Favre in a reformed

REFORMED? Does this mean you think alcoholism is a moral issue?

> alcoholic and Vicodin addict. He once had a seizure in front
> of his daughter.
>
> Here are links to a couple nice articles about him that
> appeared today:
>
> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3902981/
>
> http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/7675219.htm

[The Other Harry]

[On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:27:37 -0500, "Moonraker"
<notnow@noway.nev> wrote:]

> REFORMED? Does this mean you think alcoholism is a moral issue?

Among other things, I suppose I do think it is a moral issue.

I wasn't trying to start yet-another ARAA war there. I just
thought those were nice articles that might be of interest to
those of us who also watch football games.

(Which, by the way, I can't do. My new satellite dish is
currently configured to get them -- and I won't be going to
bar to see one. But I do hope the Cheeseheads take it.)

[The Other Harry]

NOT currently configured, that is. Obvious by context.

[Blue Moon]

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:37:06 -0500, The Other Harry
<hc.me@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>[On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:27:37 -0500, "Moonraker"
><notnow@noway.nev> wrote:]
>
>> REFORMED? Does this mean you think alcoholism is a moral issue?
>
>Among other things, I suppose I do think it is a moral issue.

Is diabetes a moral issue? Cancer? Heart disease? No. But just as
a diabetic must take his insulin in order to avoid a relapse of his
condition, or a cancer patient must take the chemotherapy, or a heart
patient must avoid certain foods etc., so an alcoholic needs to be
willing to do, and not do, certain things if the chances of relapse
are to be minimised (and, ultimately, largely eliminated).

However, for so long as the heart patient refuses to take seriously
the advice of those who understand his condition, so he will be at far
greater risk of dying from complications of that condition. So those
who understand alcoholism really are rather like those who understand
how things like smoking, cholesterol, exercise etc. affect the person
with a heart problem.

--
Blue Moon

[**rosie**]

>
> REFORMED? Does this mean you think alcoholism is a moral issue?
>


oh good lord!
lets all argue about REFORMED?
RECOVERING? RECOVERED?

ROTFLMAO, alcoholics can talk something, anything to death!
;)

[**rosie**]

harry,
thanks for posting those links.....................here in
wisconsin, some follow brett's recovery closely, its gets SPLASHED
all over the newspaper quite frequently, poor guy!

--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie

"Hell they won't lie to me/ Not on my own damn TV/ But how much is a
liar's word worth/ And whatever happened to peace on earth?"
.....................................Willie Nelson
REGIME CHANGE BEGINS AT HOME
****VOTE****



"The Other Harry" <hc.me@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:fl31005rkc5e46absuvjk3nh1gkml92tom@4ax.com...
> If you happen to watch the Green Bay / Philadelphia game
> tomorrow, bear in mind that Brett Favre in a reformed
> alcoholic and Vicodin addict. He once had a seizure in front
> of his daughter.
>
> Here are links to a couple nice articles about him that
> appeared today:
>
> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3902981/
>
> http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/7675219.htm

[Vicky Cooper]

I have been sober nearly 3 years and I must admit that the thought of
alcohol now does make me feel a bit sick. At Xmas was round an aunt's and
she offered me a choc. I took one and bit into and realised it was a liquer
choc! I spit it out all over her nice cream carpet. Instant reaction I
guess but did feel good after a while knowing that is the way I react now


"The Other Harry" <hc.me@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:la6100hiifmahoq2ihii8r4kkpbm6b8l52@4ax.com...
> [On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:27:37 -0500, "Moonraker"
> <notnow@noway.nev> wrote:]
>
> > REFORMED? Does this mean you think alcoholism is a moral issue?
>
> Among other things, I suppose I do think it is a moral issue.
>
> I wasn't trying to start yet-another ARAA war there. I just
> thought those were nice articles that might be of interest to
> those of us who also watch football games.
>
> (Which, by the way, I can't do. My new satellite dish is
> currently configured to get them -- and I won't be going to
> bar to see one. But I do hope the Cheeseheads take it.)

[Blue Moon]

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:21:05 -0000, "Vicky Cooper"
<coonsgate@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>I have been sober nearly 3 years and I must admit that the thought of
>alcohol now does make me feel a bit sick. At Xmas was round an aunt's and
>she offered me a choc. I took one and bit into and realised it was a liquer
>choc! I spit it out all over her nice cream carpet. Instant reaction I
>guess but did feel good after a while knowing that is the way I react now

Spitting chocolate over a cream carpet is a nice reaction? If that
was to be the reaction, it didn't occur to you to check the label
first?

Would take me more than even a box of chocolates to relapse.

--
Blue Moon

[>rosie]

> Spitting chocolate over a cream carpet is a nice reaction? If
that
> was to be the reaction, it didn't occur to you to check the label
> first?
>

reminds me of my first sober christmas at my parents house, when i
picked up a glass of TONIC AND LIME and took a huge mouthful, only
to realize that there was GIN in it.
i also SPIT it out...........................

the lesson i learned:

at a party, NEVER let the glass that your drinking out of, out of
your sight!