AA, agnostism and atheism

[Roger]

I went to a couple of AA meeting and I found that I just can't relate to
the "spiritual" component of the approach. Are there other programs
out there that provide support and understanding to those of us who are
either agnostics or atheists? Thank you in advance for any constructive
comments and suggestions that are respectful of my spiritual beliefs.

ROGER

[Manhattaner32]

http://www.smartrecovery.org/


"Roger" <roger@roger.com> wrote in message
news:3FCBF25B.4040701@roger.com...
> I went to a couple of AA meeting and I found that I just can't relate to
> the "spiritual" component of the approach. Are there other programs
> out there that provide support and understanding to those of us who are
> either agnostics or atheists? Thank you in advance for any constructive
> comments and suggestions that are respectful of my spiritual beliefs.
>
> ROGER
>

[Robert McGregor]

http://www.agnosticaanyc.org/

"Roger" <roger@roger.com> wrote in message
news:3FCBF25B.4040701@roger.com...
> I went to a couple of AA meeting and I found that I just can't relate to
> the "spiritual" component of the approach. Are there other programs
> out there that provide support and understanding to those of us who are
> either agnostics or atheists? Thank you in advance for any constructive
> comments and suggestions that are respectful of my spiritual beliefs.
>
> ROGER
>

[Moonraker]

"Roger" <roger@roger.com> wrote in message
news:3FCBF25B.4040701@roger.com...
> I went to a couple of AA meeting and I found that I just can't relate to
> the "spiritual" component of the approach. Are there other programs
> out there that provide support and understanding to those of us who are
> either agnostics or atheists? Thank you in advance for any constructive
> comments and suggestions that are respectful of my spiritual beliefs.
>
> ROGER
>

Sorry, but could you please explain how you have "spiritual beliefs" if you
are agnostic or atheistic? Don't you mean to say you want "suggestions"
that respect your dis-belief?

[Jonathan Bratt]

In message <vXSyb.448$R7.377@bignews1.bellsouth.net>, Moonraker
<fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> writes
>
>"Roger" <roger@roger.com> wrote in message
>news:3FCBF25B.4040701@roger.com...
>> I went to a couple of AA meeting and I found that I just can't relate to
>> the "spiritual" component of the approach. Are there other programs
>> out there that provide support and understanding to those of us who are
>> either agnostics or atheists? Thank you in advance for any constructive
>> comments and suggestions that are respectful of my spiritual beliefs.
>>
>> ROGER
>>
>
>Sorry, but could you please explain how you have "spiritual beliefs" if you
>are agnostic or atheistic? Don't you mean to say you want "suggestions"
>that respect your dis-belief?

Look at Buddhism. There is much about their philosophy and approach to
life that is spiritual but requires no theistic component.
--
Jonathan Bratt

[Robert McGregor]

"Jonathan Bratt" <jonnybratt@aol.com> wrote in message
news:psG5asdp1Gz$Ewb9@aol.com...
> In message <vXSyb.448$R7.377@bignews1.bellsouth.net>, Moonraker
> <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> writes
> >
> >"Roger" <roger@roger.com> wrote in message
> >news:3FCBF25B.4040701@roger.com...
> >> I went to a couple of AA meeting and I found that I just can't relate
to
> >> the "spiritual" component of the approach. Are there other programs
> >> out there that provide support and understanding to those of us who are
> >> either agnostics or atheists? Thank you in advance for any
constructive
> >> comments and suggestions that are respectful of my spiritual beliefs.
> >>
> >> ROGER
> >>
> >
> >Sorry, but could you please explain how you have "spiritual beliefs" if
you
> >are agnostic or atheistic? Don't you mean to say you want "suggestions"
> >that respect your dis-belief?
>
> Look at Buddhism. There is much about their philosophy and approach to
> life that is spiritual but requires no theistic component.
> --
> Jonathan Bratt

Buddhism eschews attachment to neither beliefs, nor alcohol?

Look at members of Alcoholics Anonymous. There is much about their varied
philosophies, and approaches to life, that requires no theistic component.
Even the final edit of their much vaunted step three, was accomplished by AA
founders who happened to be atheist/agnostics.

While Roger's beliefs are more important to him, he may as well drink to
them.

Bob

[Manhattaner32]

http://www.rational.org/


"Roger" <roger@roger.com> wrote in message
news:3FCBF25B.4040701@roger.com...
> I went to a couple of AA meeting and I found that I just can't relate to
> the "spiritual" component of the approach. Are there other programs
> out there that provide support and understanding to those of us who are
> either agnostics or atheists? Thank you in advance for any constructive
> comments and suggestions that are respectful of my spiritual beliefs.
>
> ROGER
>

[rosie read and post]

http://www.recovery.org/aa/bigbook/ww/educate.html

--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie

"if the only prayer you say in your whole life is 'thank you,'
that would suffice."
................................................m eckhart, 1260-1328
http://www.moveon.org/






"Roger" <roger@roger.com> wrote in message
news:3FCBF25B.4040701@roger.com...
> I went to a couple of AA meeting and I found that I just can't
relate to
> the "spiritual" component of the approach. Are there other
programs
> out there that provide support and understanding to those of us
who are
> either agnostics or atheists? Thank you in advance for any
constructive
> comments and suggestions that are respectful of my spiritual
beliefs.
>
> ROGER
>

[Bobby L.]

"Roger" <roger@roger.com> wrote in message
news:3FCBF25B.4040701@roger.com...
> I went to a couple of AA meeting and I found that I just can't relate to
> the "spiritual" component of the approach. Are there other programs
> out there that provide support and understanding to those of us who are
> either agnostics or atheists? Thank you in advance for any constructive
> comments and suggestions that are respectful of my spiritual beliefs.
>
> ROGER
>

Roger,

Ever leave a bar because you didn't like everything or everybody about it?
I know I didn't.

Bobby L

[Blue Moon]

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:00:59 -0500, Roger <roger@roger.com> wrote:

>I went to a couple of AA meeting and I found that I just can't relate to
>the "spiritual" component of the approach. Are there other programs
>out there that provide support and understanding to those of us who are
>either agnostics or atheists? Thank you in advance for any constructive
>comments and suggestions that are respectful of my spiritual beliefs.

Many people in AA are at least agnostic, including myself. Others
thought they were (or wanted to be). Most, if not all, had a belief
in alcohol at one time. Quite a number still do, they're called
"slippers". Did you not drink "religiously"?

There are agnostic AA meetings, if you look for them. There's also a
number of less religious AA meetings. IMO a couple of meetings is
just not enough to form a decent appraisal.

--
Blue Moon