Blue Moon
06-25-2003, 11:34 PM
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 08:35:27 +0100, Jonathan Bratt
<jonnybratt@aol.com> wrote:
>In message <07210a5275a44ba478ed7e8f061e84bc@free.teranews.com >, Blue
>Moon <mfoco@hotmail.com> writes
>>On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 14:57:22 +0100, Jonathan Bratt
>><jonnybratt@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>It is _be definition_ use. Abuse would be the use of such meds WITHOUT
>>>or in direct opposition to medical advice.
>>>
>>>Medicines taken medically are used, not abused.
>>
>>You might want to have a read of the chapter "Doctor, Alcoholic,
>>Addict" (3rd edition) or "acceptance was the key" (4th edition) in the
>>AA big book ... (trust AA GSO to change the name of the chapter!)
>>
>>This guy was a doctor who had a medical "need" just as you describe.
>>He didn't consider himself "abusing" pills, each time he popped a pill
>>it was as the result of some medical indication.
>>
>>Sure, he was self-diagnosing. But there are many addicts who will use
>>excuses galore to get more pills from the medics.
>>
>None of you seem to take on board that I have a treatment team.
>Including: family doctor, addiction/abuse specialist and senior
>psychiatrist.
Let me get this right ... you said "medicines taken medically are
used, not abused", I cited a direct passage from a doctor to
contradict this theory, then you had the warped perception of thinking
I was referring specifically to your case?
I wasn't. I was disabusing your notion about medicines being taken
medically not being abused.
> I mean - they couldn't actually be what they seem ,could
>they.......appropriately qualified and experienced professionals who
>know what they are doing!!
I'm sure they know what they're doing in their own field. Does that
field really include a resolution for alcoholism? This is an
*alcoholism* forum, and doctors do NOT have a solution to that
problem.
--
Blue Moon
<jonnybratt@aol.com> wrote:
>In message <07210a5275a44ba478ed7e8f061e84bc@free.teranews.com >, Blue
>Moon <mfoco@hotmail.com> writes
>>On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 14:57:22 +0100, Jonathan Bratt
>><jonnybratt@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>It is _be definition_ use. Abuse would be the use of such meds WITHOUT
>>>or in direct opposition to medical advice.
>>>
>>>Medicines taken medically are used, not abused.
>>
>>You might want to have a read of the chapter "Doctor, Alcoholic,
>>Addict" (3rd edition) or "acceptance was the key" (4th edition) in the
>>AA big book ... (trust AA GSO to change the name of the chapter!)
>>
>>This guy was a doctor who had a medical "need" just as you describe.
>>He didn't consider himself "abusing" pills, each time he popped a pill
>>it was as the result of some medical indication.
>>
>>Sure, he was self-diagnosing. But there are many addicts who will use
>>excuses galore to get more pills from the medics.
>>
>None of you seem to take on board that I have a treatment team.
>Including: family doctor, addiction/abuse specialist and senior
>psychiatrist.
Let me get this right ... you said "medicines taken medically are
used, not abused", I cited a direct passage from a doctor to
contradict this theory, then you had the warped perception of thinking
I was referring specifically to your case?
I wasn't. I was disabusing your notion about medicines being taken
medically not being abused.
> I mean - they couldn't actually be what they seem ,could
>they.......appropriately qualified and experienced professionals who
>know what they are doing!!
I'm sure they know what they're doing in their own field. Does that
field really include a resolution for alcoholism? This is an
*alcoholism* forum, and doctors do NOT have a solution to that
problem.
--
Blue Moon