new here

[molady]

Hi. I'm new to this group and am not sure how to use it. Will I
recieve group emails or will I need to go to google to check posts?

[JB]

"molady" <molady123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi. I'm new to this group and am not sure how to use it. Will I
> recieve group emails or will I need to go to google to check posts?

Hi,

My name's JB. Welcome to ARAA. I hope that you'll find here the kind of help and support you're
looking for.

This group doesn't send out group e:mails. If you Google, you'll find many posts containing good
advice and some that don't :^))

I'm looking forward to the day when you decide to tell us more about yourself. In the meantime, I
wish you well.

JB

PS: BTW, I stopped drinking, "again" (<g>) on 10th June this year and I'm using this NG and AA to
stay stopped.

[JB]

"Gail" <serenity6850_2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vpq72pk05u440b@corp.supernews.com...
<snip>

> A man named Bob used to ask me if I was using AA or the Program of AA. Big
> difference! ;)
>
> Best,
> Gail
>
Absolutely :^))

JB

[Gail]

"JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
news:bnip3a$kfq$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> "molady" <molady123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:83aa0c1d.0310261800.2bde1cba@posting.google.c om...
> > Hi. I'm new to this group and am not sure how to use it. Will I
> > recieve group emails or will I need to go to google to check posts?
>
> Hi,
>
> My name's JB. Welcome to ARAA. I hope that you'll find here the kind of
help and support you're
> looking for.
>
> This group doesn't send out group e:mails. If you Google, you'll find
many posts containing good
> advice and some that don't :^))

For sure!


>
> I'm looking forward to the day when you decide to tell us more about
yourself. In the meantime, I
> wish you well.
>
> JB
>
> PS: BTW, I stopped drinking, "again" (<g>) on 10th June this year and
I'm using this NG and AA to
> stay stopped.
>
>

A man named Bob used to ask me if I was using AA or the Program of AA. Big
difference! ;)

Best,
Gail

[rosie read and post]

> A man named Bob used to ask me if I was using AA or the Program of AA.
Big
> difference! ;)
>
> Best,


YUP!
kind of like GETTING IN the program, instead of ON IT!
:)

--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie

the more often I laugh today, the lighter my spirit will feel and. the
healthier my emotional life will become.
............................................karen casey



"Gail" <serenity6850_2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
> news:bnip3a$kfq$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > "molady" <molady123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:83aa0c1d.0310261800.2bde1cba@posting.google.c om...
> > > Hi. I'm new to this group and am not sure how to use it. Will I
> > > recieve group emails or will I need to go to google to check
posts?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > My name's JB. Welcome to ARAA. I hope that you'll find here the
kind of
> help and support you're
> > looking for.
> >
> > This group doesn't send out group e:mails. If you Google, you'll
find
> many posts containing good
> > advice and some that don't :^))
>
> For sure!
>
>
> >
> > I'm looking forward to the day when you decide to tell us more about
> yourself. In the meantime, I
> > wish you well.
> >
> > JB
> >
> > PS: BTW, I stopped drinking, "again" (<g>) on 10th June this year
and
> I'm using this NG and AA to
> > stay stopped.
> >
> >
>
> A man named Bob used to ask me if I was using AA or the Program of AA.
Big
> difference! ;)
>
> Best,
> Gail
>
>

[Evey]

Hi New Here. I'll look forward to hearing more from you as I am new to this
news group too. Since July really. I enjoy getting to know more about how
this group of works too. Keep Coming Back. Talk to ya
later................Evey
"molady" <molady123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi. I'm new to this group and am not sure how to use it. Will I
> recieve group emails or will I need to go to google to check posts?

[Blue Moon]

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:23:42 -0600, "Gail"
<serenity6850_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

>A man named Bob used to ask me if I was using AA or the Program of AA. Big
>difference! ;)

Or both?

--
Blue Moon

[Kai]

Blue Moon wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:23:42 -0600, "Gail"
> <serenity6850_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>A man named Bob used to ask me if I was using AA or the Program of AA. Big
>>difference! ;)
>
>
> Or both?

I've used both, and I feel I needed both too. I don't think I could've
come up with the initial 'trust' in the possibility of a meaningful,
sober life worth seeking for, without the fellowship. The fellowship,
the people with similar enough experiences in the past and now
seemingly content and sober was, I believe, a crucial part of my
initial recovery.

Kai

[Gail]

"Kai" <soberon@nospamo.luukku.com> wrote in message
news:bnqg97$28o$1@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi...
> Blue Moon wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:23:42 -0600, "Gail"
> > <serenity6850_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>A man named Bob used to ask me if I was using AA or the Program of AA.
Big
> >>difference! ;)
> >
> >
> > Or both?
>
> I've used both, and I feel I needed both too. I don't think I could've
> come up with the initial 'trust' in the possibility of a meaningful,
> sober life worth seeking for, without the fellowship. The fellowship,
> the people with similar enough experiences in the past and now
> seemingly content and sober was, I believe, a crucial part of my
> initial recovery.
>
> Kai
>

Hello, Kai. I agree. (Key word- initial)
Best,
Gail

[Kai]

Gail wrote:

> "Kai" <soberon@nospamo.luukku.com> wrote in message
> news:bnqg97$28o$1@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi...
>
>>Blue Moon wrote:
>>>
>>>Or both?
>>
>>I've used both, and I feel I needed both too. I don't think I could've
>>come up with the initial 'trust' in the possibility of a meaningful,
>>sober life worth seeking for, without the fellowship. The fellowship,
>>the people with similar enough experiences in the past and now
>>seemingly content and sober was, I believe, a crucial part of my
>>initial recovery.
>>
>>Kai
>
> Hello, Kai. I agree. (Key word- initial)

I think the keyword is 'trust'.

Kai

[Robert McGregor]

"Kai" <soberon@nospamo.luukku.com> wrote in message
news:bnrml1$sug$2@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi...
> Gail wrote:
>
> > "Kai" <soberon@nospamo.luukku.com> wrote in message
> > news:bnqg97$28o$1@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi...
> >
> >>Blue Moon wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Or both?
> >>
> >>I've used both, and I feel I needed both too. I don't think I could've
> >>come up with the initial 'trust' in the possibility of a meaningful,
> >>sober life worth seeking for, without the fellowship. The fellowship,
> >>the people with similar enough experiences in the past and now
> >>seemingly content and sober was, I believe, a crucial part of my
> >>initial recovery.
> >>
> >>Kai
> >
> > Hello, Kai. I agree. (Key word- initial)
>
> I think the keyword is 'trust'.
>
> Kai
>

Fortunately for me, trusting untrustworthy AAers was a sobering experience.

"Hope" that by taking the 12 steps *I* may recover, was the key word for me.

Bob

[Kai]

Robert McGregor wrote:

> "Kai" <soberon@nospamo.luukku.com> wrote in message
>>
>>I think the keyword is 'trust'.
>>
>>Kai
>>
>
>
> Fortunately for me, trusting untrustworthy AAers was a sobering experience.
>
> "Hope" that by taking the 12 steps *I* may recover, was the key word for me.

You seemed to misunderstand me, Bob. By 'trust' I did not mean
trusting AAers, or any person, but trusting the possibility that I
might be able to achieve a sober, meaningful life worth achieving. The
idea of whether the steps would play any part in the action came a lot
later.

I suppose I coul've used 'hope', or 'faith' as well, but I chose to
use 'trust'. I'm not a native English speaker so it is quite possible
the word 'trust' cannot be used in the sense I did.

Kai

[Robert McGregor]

"Kai" <soberon@nospamo.luukku.com> wrote in message
news:bnrp93$6me$1@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi...
> Robert McGregor wrote:
>
> > "Kai" <soberon@nospamo.luukku.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >>I think the keyword is 'trust'.
> >>
> >>Kai
> >>
> >
> >
> > Fortunately for me, trusting untrustworthy AAers was a sobering
experience.
> >
> > "Hope" that by taking the 12 steps *I* may recover, was the key word for
me.
>
> You seemed to misunderstand me, Bob. By 'trust' I did not mean
> trusting AAers, or any person, but trusting the possibility that I
> might be able to achieve a sober, meaningful life worth achieving. The
> idea of whether the steps would play any part in the action came a lot
> later.
>
> I suppose I coul've used 'hope', or 'faith' as well, but I chose to
> use 'trust'. I'm not a native English speaker so it is quite possible
> the word 'trust' cannot be used in the sense I did.
>
> Kai
>

Kai, in the context of the AA program and/or the AA "fellowship," my post
was a sharing of my own experience, rather than a reflection on yours. With
reference to English usage in this context, hopefully correctly;-) I see a
significant difference between the certainty of trust, and the uncertainty
of hope.

Bob

[Kai]

Robert McGregor wrote:
>
> Kai, in the context of the AA program and/or the AA "fellowship," my post
> was a sharing of my own experience, rather than a reflection on yours.

What? Stop being so self-centered! ;-)

> With
> reference to English usage in this context, hopefully correctly;-) I see a
> significant difference between the certainty of trust, and the uncertainty
> of hope.

I see your point, and in this light agree 'hope' describes my feelings
better than 'trust', as it most certainly didn't feel like a
certainty. I had had my experiences of 'sober life'[0], you see, and
it was *not* something I wanted.

[0] max three months of not-drinking while gnawing my hands off

Kai