It's happening again

[green_wonder]

Man, after being layed off for several months, I'm back on the golf course
again.

Those of you from the East Coast know that monsoon season seems to have
finally ended.

I've used this rain as a means to focus on the job, and save up enough cash
selling widgets to give me some time away from the job. My boss says, okay,
just come in, hold meetings with the junior sales associates, keep them on
track to make their numbers and you're fine. Funny, I've run across so many
alcoholics in my industry, but I really never drank from this job. It's
nothing compared to golf in terms of anxiety and stress.

I'm back to playing competitive golf. I'm good enough to be scaling back my
work hours and soon should be playing on the Nationwide tour. On this tour,
winning an event pays approx $100k (just for a week's worth of work).

I find myself in a Catch-22. Basically, I play much better when I drink.
It steadies my nerves I guess. Golf is such a "nerves" sport. It's a mind
game. You have to have a controlled mood. You can't let your emotions
overtake you after a bad shot, and must remain cool and composed after good
shots. There's a golf law of karma that states that over-celebrating will
lead to terrible play.

I really want this bad. I know there's no way to win, without some absolut
in my bag. But, I don't want to finish up rolling off the course, and
trying to make time with the girls working the events. How can I regulate
this?

I think I am trying to control anxiety and that this anxiety stems from not
being on the pro-tour. So, I think that once I make it to the pro tour,
I'll have less anxiety, and be able to drink less on the fareways. Also, as
I gain more experience, I seem to be gaining more confidence.

I'm relatively careful. I don't drink at home. Keep no liquor in the
apartment. Golf has me in great shape, a great tan. I do really well with
the ladies, but, know that I need to hold them at arms length, because golf
and families just don't mix.

I'm interested in a controlled moderation program.

[Moonraker]

"green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
news:3ef99ac6@shknews01...
> I know there's no way to win, without some absolut
> in my bag.

>and be able to drink less on the fareways.

Do you remember one of the PGA tour pros getting disqualified from a event a
couple of years ago because a fan handed him a beer as he walked along the
ropes? And this happened during the pro-am part of the tourney. He got
sent home before he even teed off on Thurs.


AFAIK, the PGA Tour rules of conduct apply to the Nationwide also. Try
drinking while you are in competition and you won't have to worry about
winning or competing. You'll be back to selling widgets.

And, BTW, it's " fairways". But you knew that.

[green_wonder]

They won't catch me. There's no breathalyser (spelling?) on the tee. Plus,
most of use use vodka. You'd be suprised how many of us do it, though, if
you've been on tour, it's not suprising at all. I don't know how many take
steriods,etc., I don't but I've heard rumors. Regularly, I'd say 1 in 5
carry a flask. I'm not talking John Daly here, just a shot or two per 9.
If you're in contention, you know it's going to come down to putts. You
can't afford a case of the yips then.


"Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:qXgKa.6939$lT4.1629@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
>
> "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> news:3ef99ac6@shknews01...
> > I know there's no way to win, without some absolut
> > in my bag.
>
> >and be able to drink less on the fareways.
>
> Do you remember one of the PGA tour pros getting disqualified from a event
a
> couple of years ago because a fan handed him a beer as he walked along the
> ropes? And this happened during the pro-am part of the tourney. He got
> sent home before he even teed off on Thurs.
>
>
> AFAIK, the PGA Tour rules of conduct apply to the Nationwide also. Try
> drinking while you are in competition and you won't have to worry about
> winning or competing. You'll be back to selling widgets.
>
> And, BTW, it's " fairways". But you knew that.
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Moonraker]

I've spent more than a few days walking Tour events. With the 10's of
thousands of people, the marshals, PGA officials, media, and other players
around, I'd find it pretty well impossible for any competitor to be having
a nip during his round.

It's interesting you would mention John Daly. A few years back he was
playing at the BellSouth at Sugarloaf in an early morning start on Thursday.
I was in the rather sparse gallery....he hit a easy 8 iron to a 215yd par 3.
Astounding. Anyway, at that time, he had just celebrated 1 year sober. I
was standing on the cart path by the green as he walked right in front of
me. I had my 1 year AA bronze medalion in my pocket. I handed it to him
and said "maybe this will bring you some luck this week, it sure changed
things for me".

He stopped, tears welled up in his eyes, and he gave me a big hug. I saw
him using it as a ball marker a few more times that week. I think it was
the first time he made the cut that entire season.


"green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
news:3ef9a3aa@shknews01...
> They won't catch me. There's no breathalyser (spelling?) on the tee.
Plus,
> most of use use vodka. You'd be suprised how many of us do it, though, if
> you've been on tour, it's not suprising at all. I don't know how many
take
> steriods,etc., I don't but I've heard rumors. Regularly, I'd say 1 in 5
> carry a flask. I'm not talking John Daly here, just a shot or two per 9.
> If you're in contention, you know it's going to come down to putts. You
> can't afford a case of the yips then.
>
>
> "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:qXgKa.6939$lT4.1629@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
> >
> > "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> > news:3ef99ac6@shknews01...
> > > I know there's no way to win, without some absolut
> > > in my bag.
> >
> > >and be able to drink less on the fareways.
> >
> > Do you remember one of the PGA tour pros getting disqualified from a
event
> a
> > couple of years ago because a fan handed him a beer as he walked along
the
> > ropes? And this happened during the pro-am part of the tourney. He got
> > sent home before he even teed off on Thurs.
> >
> >
> > AFAIK, the PGA Tour rules of conduct apply to the Nationwide also. Try
> > drinking while you are in competition and you won't have to worry about
> > winning or competing. You'll be back to selling widgets.
> >
> > And, BTW, it's " fairways". But you knew that.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[green_wonder]

Couldn't do it yesterday. Decided I'd start out the match dry. After a few
holes, the intensive heat was a warning that I'd better stick to gatorade,
I'd never make it 18 holes.

Things went well through the turn. Only two cases of the yips, but they
were 6 footers. I kept telling myself, that's gonna happen, that's gonna
happen. A couple guys dropped out after 14. the drinking heat may have
gotten to them. Maybe they were dry.

By 14, I only needed to win one more hole for the match. I'm thinking to
myself, I gotta be steady. See first how 15 goes. If it goes bad, take a
shot of vodka (which, oh by the way, is very hard to detect on the breath,
and is perfectly clear in a water bottle.

Wouldn't you know it, I won the match by the 15th. I was actually
considering taking a swig for the par 3 16th which no doubt would've
required a good putt to win.

The heat was intoxicating. I actually played well, my mind focused one two
things. Play well, don't get overheated.

By the way, John's not the only member of AA on the big tour. Won't name
names, but if you're really curious, you can find out who some of them are.



"Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:mICKa.16385$lT4.3216@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> I've spent more than a few days walking Tour events. With the 10's of
> thousands of people, the marshals, PGA officials, media, and other players
> around, I'd find it pretty well impossible for any competitor to be
having
> a nip during his round.
>
> It's interesting you would mention John Daly. A few years back he was
> playing at the BellSouth at Sugarloaf in an early morning start on
Thursday.
> I was in the rather sparse gallery....he hit a easy 8 iron to a 215yd par
3.
> Astounding. Anyway, at that time, he had just celebrated 1 year sober.
I
> was standing on the cart path by the green as he walked right in front of
> me. I had my 1 year AA bronze medalion in my pocket. I handed it to him
> and said "maybe this will bring you some luck this week, it sure changed
> things for me".
>
> He stopped, tears welled up in his eyes, and he gave me a big hug. I
saw
> him using it as a ball marker a few more times that week. I think it was
> the first time he made the cut that entire season.
>
>
> "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> news:3ef9a3aa@shknews01...
> > They won't catch me. There's no breathalyser (spelling?) on the tee.
> Plus,
> > most of use use vodka. You'd be suprised how many of us do it, though,
if
> > you've been on tour, it's not suprising at all. I don't know how many
> take
> > steriods,etc., I don't but I've heard rumors. Regularly, I'd say 1 in 5
> > carry a flask. I'm not talking John Daly here, just a shot or two per
9.
> > If you're in contention, you know it's going to come down to putts. You
> > can't afford a case of the yips then.
> >
> >
> > "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:qXgKa.6939$lT4.1629@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
> > >
> > > "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3ef99ac6@shknews01...
> > > > I know there's no way to win, without some absolut
> > > > in my bag.
> > >
> > > >and be able to drink less on the fareways.
> > >
> > > Do you remember one of the PGA tour pros getting disqualified from a
> event
> > a
> > > couple of years ago because a fan handed him a beer as he walked along
> the
> > > ropes? And this happened during the pro-am part of the tourney. He
got
> > > sent home before he even teed off on Thurs.
> > >
> > >
> > > AFAIK, the PGA Tour rules of conduct apply to the Nationwide also.
Try
> > > drinking while you are in competition and you won't have to worry
about
> > > winning or competing. You'll be back to selling widgets.
> > >
> > > And, BTW, it's " fairways". But you knew that.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

[Moonraker]

Where would you be playing match play?

I don't think JD is still making meetings. How about Fuzzy?

"green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
news:3efb006a@shknews01...
> Couldn't do it yesterday. Decided I'd start out the match dry. After a
few
> holes, the intensive heat was a warning that I'd better stick to gatorade,
> I'd never make it 18 holes.
>
> Things went well through the turn. Only two cases of the yips, but they
> were 6 footers. I kept telling myself, that's gonna happen, that's gonna
> happen. A couple guys dropped out after 14. the drinking heat may have
> gotten to them. Maybe they were dry.
>
> By 14, I only needed to win one more hole for the match. I'm thinking to
> myself, I gotta be steady. See first how 15 goes. If it goes bad, take a
> shot of vodka (which, oh by the way, is very hard to detect on the breath,
> and is perfectly clear in a water bottle.
>
> Wouldn't you know it, I won the match by the 15th. I was actually
> considering taking a swig for the par 3 16th which no doubt would've
> required a good putt to win.
>
> The heat was intoxicating. I actually played well, my mind focused one
two
> things. Play well, don't get overheated.
>
> By the way, John's not the only member of AA on the big tour. Won't name
> names, but if you're really curious, you can find out who some of them
are.
>
>
>
> "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:mICKa.16385$lT4.3216@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> > I've spent more than a few days walking Tour events. With the 10's of
> > thousands of people, the marshals, PGA officials, media, and other
players
> > around, I'd find it pretty well impossible for any competitor to be
> having
> > a nip during his round.
> >
> > It's interesting you would mention John Daly. A few years back he was
> > playing at the BellSouth at Sugarloaf in an early morning start on
> Thursday.
> > I was in the rather sparse gallery....he hit a easy 8 iron to a 215yd
par
> 3.
> > Astounding. Anyway, at that time, he had just celebrated 1 year sober.
> I
> > was standing on the cart path by the green as he walked right in front
of
> > me. I had my 1 year AA bronze medalion in my pocket. I handed it to
him
> > and said "maybe this will bring you some luck this week, it sure
changed
> > things for me".
> >
> > He stopped, tears welled up in his eyes, and he gave me a big hug. I
> saw
> > him using it as a ball marker a few more times that week. I think it
was
> > the first time he made the cut that entire season.
> >
> >
> > "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> > news:3ef9a3aa@shknews01...
> > > They won't catch me. There's no breathalyser (spelling?) on the tee.
> > Plus,
> > > most of use use vodka. You'd be suprised how many of us do it,
though,
> if
> > > you've been on tour, it's not suprising at all. I don't know how many
> > take
> > > steriods,etc., I don't but I've heard rumors. Regularly, I'd say 1 in
5
> > > carry a flask. I'm not talking John Daly here, just a shot or two per
> 9.
> > > If you're in contention, you know it's going to come down to putts.
You
> > > can't afford a case of the yips then.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > news:qXgKa.6939$lT4.1629@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
> > > >
> > > > "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3ef99ac6@shknews01...
> > > > > I know there's no way to win, without some absolut
> > > > > in my bag.
> > > >
> > > > >and be able to drink less on the fareways.
> > > >
> > > > Do you remember one of the PGA tour pros getting disqualified from a
> > event
> > > a
> > > > couple of years ago because a fan handed him a beer as he walked
along
> > the
> > > > ropes? And this happened during the pro-am part of the tourney. He
> got
> > > > sent home before he even teed off on Thurs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > AFAIK, the PGA Tour rules of conduct apply to the Nationwide also.
> Try
> > > > drinking while you are in competition and you won't have to worry
> about
> > > > winning or competing. You'll be back to selling widgets.
> > > >
> > > > And, BTW, it's " fairways". But you knew that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Robert McGregor]

So much for AA's *promise* of anonymity!

Bob


"Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:mICKa.16385$lT4.3216@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> It's interesting you would mention John Daly.

"Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:ucDKa.16392$lT4.4337@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> Where would you be playing match play?
>
> I don't think JD is still making meetings. How about Fuzzy?
>
> "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> news:3efb006a@shknews01...
> > Couldn't do it yesterday. Decided I'd start out the match dry. After a
> few
> > holes, the intensive heat was a warning that I'd better stick to
gatorade,
> > I'd never make it 18 holes.
> >
> > Things went well through the turn. Only two cases of the yips, but they
> > were 6 footers. I kept telling myself, that's gonna happen, that's
gonna
> > happen. A couple guys dropped out after 14. the drinking heat may have
> > gotten to them. Maybe they were dry.
> >
> > By 14, I only needed to win one more hole for the match. I'm thinking
to
> > myself, I gotta be steady. See first how 15 goes. If it goes bad, take
a
> > shot of vodka (which, oh by the way, is very hard to detect on the
breath,
> > and is perfectly clear in a water bottle.
> >
> > Wouldn't you know it, I won the match by the 15th. I was actually
> > considering taking a swig for the par 3 16th which no doubt would've
> > required a good putt to win.
> >
> > The heat was intoxicating. I actually played well, my mind focused one
> two
> > things. Play well, don't get overheated.
> >
> > By the way, John's not the only member of AA on the big tour. Won't
name
> > names, but if you're really curious, you can find out who some of them
> are.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:mICKa.16385$lT4.3216@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> > > I've spent more than a few days walking Tour events. With the 10's of
> > > thousands of people, the marshals, PGA officials, media, and other
> players
> > > around, I'd find it pretty well impossible for any competitor to be
> > having
> > > a nip during his round.
> > >
> > > It's interesting you would mention John Daly. A few years back he was
> > > playing at the BellSouth at Sugarloaf in an early morning start on
> > Thursday.
> > > I was in the rather sparse gallery....he hit a easy 8 iron to a 215yd
> par
> > 3.
> > > Astounding. Anyway, at that time, he had just celebrated 1 year
sober.
> > I
> > > was standing on the cart path by the green as he walked right in front
> of
> > > me. I had my 1 year AA bronze medalion in my pocket. I handed it to
> him
> > > and said "maybe this will bring you some luck this week, it sure
> changed
> > > things for me".
> > >
> > > He stopped, tears welled up in his eyes, and he gave me a big hug.
I
> > saw
> > > him using it as a ball marker a few more times that week. I think it
> was
> > > the first time he made the cut that entire season.
> > >
> > >
> > > "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3ef9a3aa@shknews01...
> > > > They won't catch me. There's no breathalyser (spelling?) on the
tee.
> > > Plus,
> > > > most of use use vodka. You'd be suprised how many of us do it,
> though,
> > if
> > > > you've been on tour, it's not suprising at all. I don't know how
many
> > > take
> > > > steriods,etc., I don't but I've heard rumors. Regularly, I'd say 1
in
> 5
> > > > carry a flask. I'm not talking John Daly here, just a shot or two
per
> > 9.
> > > > If you're in contention, you know it's going to come down to putts.
> You
> > > > can't afford a case of the yips then.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:qXgKa.6939$lT4.1629@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
> > > > >
> > > > > "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3ef99ac6@shknews01...
> > > > > > I know there's no way to win, without some absolut
> > > > > > in my bag.
> > > > >
> > > > > >and be able to drink less on the fareways.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you remember one of the PGA tour pros getting disqualified from
a
> > > event
> > > > a
> > > > > couple of years ago because a fan handed him a beer as he walked
> along
> > > the
> > > > > ropes? And this happened during the pro-am part of the tourney.
He
> > got
> > > > > sent home before he even teed off on Thurs.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > AFAIK, the PGA Tour rules of conduct apply to the Nationwide also.
> > Try
> > > > > drinking while you are in competition and you won't have to worry
> > about
> > > > > winning or competing. You'll be back to selling widgets.
> > > > >
> > > > > And, BTW, it's " fairways". But you knew that.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

[Robert McGregor]

"Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:_R1La.1846$Im5.1583@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
>
> "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:bdi8tf$tlks7$1@ID-49289.news.dfncis.de...
> > So much for AA's *promise* of anonymity!
> >
> The celebrity himself broke his own anonymity. 'Twasn't me. He made
> frequent references to the program and his membership and progress in
public
> interviews on the Golf Channel and in Golf Week magazine.
>

He did not break it here. May even regret it. His privilege is your right?

Bob

[Moonraker]

"Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:bdi8tf$tlks7$1@ID-49289.news.dfncis.de...
> So much for AA's *promise* of anonymity!
>
The celebrity himself broke his own anonymity. 'Twasn't me. He made
frequent references to the program and his membership and progress in public
interviews on the Golf Channel and in Golf Week magazine.

[Robert McGregor]

"Blue Moon" <mfoco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0703f7090d06d6d96ab0b9963372ec32@free.teranew s.com...
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 06:15:06 +1000, "Robert McGregor"
> <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> >So much for AA's *promise* of anonymity!
>
> What promise? I know of no such promise.
>
> --
> Blue Moon

http://www.aa.org/default/en_about_aa.cfm?pageid=1
"assurance to all A.A.s, especially to newcomers, that their A.A. membership
will not be disclosed."
http://alcoholism.about.com/library/blmitch21.htm
"He has to stop distribution of the German translation, reveal all
distribution and production details (including the full names of AA members
into public court records). "

[Blue Moon]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 19:38:01 +1000, "Robert McGregor"
<robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>
>"Blue Moon" <mfoco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:0703f7090d06d6d96ab0b9963372ec32@free.teranew s.com...
>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 06:15:06 +1000, "Robert McGregor"
>> <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> >So much for AA's *promise* of anonymity!
>>
>> What promise? I know of no such promise.
>>
>> --
>> Blue Moon
>
>http://www.aa.org/default/en_about_aa.cfm?pageid=1
>"assurance to all A.A.s, especially to newcomers, that their A.A. membership
>will not be disclosed."

Says "anonymity in the public media is..." Of course, this forum
could be considered "public media". I'm not aware of any anonymity
assurance within AA ... many human beings are gossips by nature, and
AA membership doesn't alter that reality.

--
Blue Moon

[Robert McGregor]

"Blue Moon" <mfoco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7f652dd1ef15370fde6dbe90473afe4d@free.teranew s.com...
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 19:38:01 +1000, "Robert McGregor"
> <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Blue Moon" <mfoco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:0703f7090d06d6d96ab0b9963372ec32@free.teranew s.com...
> >> On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 06:15:06 +1000, "Robert McGregor"
> >> <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >> >So much for AA's *promise* of anonymity!
> >>
> >> What promise? I know of no such promise.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Blue Moon
> >
> >http://www.aa.org/default/en_about_aa.cfm?pageid=1
> >"assurance to all A.A.s, especially to newcomers, that their A.A.
membership
> >will not be disclosed."
>
> Says "anonymity in the public media is..." Of course, this forum
> could be considered "public media".

Precisely.

Ironic how surnames are so often taboo, and AA's remain anonymous from each
other *in* AA, presumably because of Bill's waffle about anonymity being
"spiritual."

More than once I've visited the hospital searching in vain for an ailing AA
member, with only a christian name to go by. Frustrated reception (and
myself) merely asking directions to a patient. (One tip is to ask for the
alcohol councillor, who can often help)

Given AA Traditions are not even binding within AA, perhaps the best
argument is that choice of anonymity is best left with the person concerned.



Dr. Bob on Tradition Eleven
Reprinted from the February 1969 Grapevine

"We need always maintain personal anonymity
at the level of press, radio and films."


Dr. Bob, co-founder of AA, commented on Tradition Eleven as follows:
"Since our Tradition on anonymity designates the exact level where the
line should be held, it must be obvious to everyone who can read and
understand the English language that to maintain anonymity at any other
level is definitely a violation of this Tradition.

"The AA who hides his identity from his fellow AA by using only a given
name violates the Tradition just as much as the AA who permits his name
to appear in the press in connection with matters pertaining to AA.


"The former is maintaining his anonymity ABOVE the level of press,
radio, and films, and the latter is maintaining his anonymity BELOW the
level of press, radio, and films - whereas the Tradition states that we
should maintain our anonymity AT the level of press, radio, and
films."





Bob

[Moonraker]

"rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1_qLa.151815> this is how i was "raised" to interpret the tradition,
and in AA meetings and on group phone lists, i use my FULL name.
> always have and always will.
>
>
Your last name is "Readandpost"? What nationality is THAT?

[green_wonder]

talked for a long time this weekend with a fellow that used to do what I do,
drink on the golf course to steady the nerves.

He's 10 years older than me, and boy was it a wakeup call, though, I came
away from the conversation confused.

Basically, this fellow recognized a problem in himself and talked to
somebody about it. Basically he was told that he had to give up using booze
as a tool to steady the nerves, that he just needs to start out the round
with nothing in his bag. Just accept the score for what it was. The advice
came from a combination of alcohol recovery, as well as sports psychology.
Top golfers use shrinks to work on their mind games. Basically it comes
down to working a mindset so that your mind will never make your play worse.
Things like, golf is not a game of perfection, etc.

To make a long story short, this fellow is not drinking on the golf course,
yet, he is a drunk. He justifies it in that he's a social drinker and no
longers uses/relies on the poison as a tool to enhance performance.

I don't want this to happen to me. He's drinking like a drunk now almost
every day. When I only have about 4-6 shots in a round. And that's about
it. Maybe three of four a week at the most outside of golf. It's like
I've got two worlds, drinking during golf, and tea-totaler during the week.







"green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
news:3efb006a@shknews01...
> Couldn't do it yesterday. Decided I'd start out the match dry. After a
few
> holes, the intensive heat was a warning that I'd better stick to gatorade,
> I'd never make it 18 holes.
>
> Things went well through the turn. Only two cases of the yips, but they
> were 6 footers. I kept telling myself, that's gonna happen, that's gonna
> happen. A couple guys dropped out after 14. the drinking heat may have
> gotten to them. Maybe they were dry.
>
> By 14, I only needed to win one more hole for the match. I'm thinking to
> myself, I gotta be steady. See first how 15 goes. If it goes bad, take a
> shot of vodka (which, oh by the way, is very hard to detect on the breath,
> and is perfectly clear in a water bottle.
>
> Wouldn't you know it, I won the match by the 15th. I was actually
> considering taking a swig for the par 3 16th which no doubt would've
> required a good putt to win.
>
> The heat was intoxicating. I actually played well, my mind focused one
two
> things. Play well, don't get overheated.
>
> By the way, John's not the only member of AA on the big tour. Won't name
> names, but if you're really curious, you can find out who some of them
are.
>
>
>
> "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:mICKa.16385$lT4.3216@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> > I've spent more than a few days walking Tour events. With the 10's of
> > thousands of people, the marshals, PGA officials, media, and other
players
> > around, I'd find it pretty well impossible for any competitor to be
> having
> > a nip during his round.
> >
> > It's interesting you would mention John Daly. A few years back he was
> > playing at the BellSouth at Sugarloaf in an early morning start on
> Thursday.
> > I was in the rather sparse gallery....he hit a easy 8 iron to a 215yd
par
> 3.
> > Astounding. Anyway, at that time, he had just celebrated 1 year sober.
> I
> > was standing on the cart path by the green as he walked right in front
of
> > me. I had my 1 year AA bronze medalion in my pocket. I handed it to
him
> > and said "maybe this will bring you some luck this week, it sure
changed
> > things for me".
> >
> > He stopped, tears welled up in his eyes, and he gave me a big hug. I
> saw
> > him using it as a ball marker a few more times that week. I think it
was
> > the first time he made the cut that entire season.
> >
> >
> > "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> > news:3ef9a3aa@shknews01...
> > > They won't catch me. There's no breathalyser (spelling?) on the tee.
> > Plus,
> > > most of use use vodka. You'd be suprised how many of us do it,
though,
> if
> > > you've been on tour, it's not suprising at all. I don't know how many
> > take
> > > steriods,etc., I don't but I've heard rumors. Regularly, I'd say 1 in
5
> > > carry a flask. I'm not talking John Daly here, just a shot or two per
> 9.
> > > If you're in contention, you know it's going to come down to putts.
You
> > > can't afford a case of the yips then.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > news:qXgKa.6939$lT4.1629@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
> > > >
> > > > "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3ef99ac6@shknews01...
> > > > > I know there's no way to win, without some absolut
> > > > > in my bag.
> > > >
> > > > >and be able to drink less on the fareways.
> > > >
> > > > Do you remember one of the PGA tour pros getting disqualified from a
> > event
> > > a
> > > > couple of years ago because a fan handed him a beer as he walked
along
> > the
> > > > ropes? And this happened during the pro-am part of the tourney. He
> got
> > > > sent home before he even teed off on Thurs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > AFAIK, the PGA Tour rules of conduct apply to the Nationwide also.
> Try
> > > > drinking while you are in competition and you won't have to worry
> about
> > > > winning or competing. You'll be back to selling widgets.
> > > >
> > > > And, BTW, it's " fairways". But you knew that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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