New, again.

[Snyland]

I am an alcoholic, my name is Scott.
I had almost 5 years sober by working the 12 steps of A.A. I decided
to drink again last Sept. and have been on and off again since that
time. My sponsor had guided me through the steps, but I failed to keep
working them in my everyday life. I cut back to 1 or 2 meetings a
week. I never really tried hard enough to be a friend to anyone. I
havent yet challenged my fears
or relied on God to see me through them.
Today is my first day sober, and I am hoping to use this group to give
and receive some encouragement while I am at home doing, otherwise,
nothing better.
I look forward to meeting some of you.
And to, possibly, having an extended recovery family. Have a good day.

[debs]

Hi there

Welcome to the group. I hope you enjoy the banter here.
Try not to look at the previous few months as a complete failure, after all
you did learn something didn't you? As the song goes 'pick yourself up,
dust yourself down and start all over again.'
I have had six months sober and it has been the best six months of my life.
I don't go to AA but I don't shout down anyone who does....each to their
own.
I devised my own recovery plan, using bits and pieces from all sorts of
recovery plans. What I do know is that I am powerless against alcohol and
for me there is no option of drinking in moderation. Been there, tried it
and got several tee-shirts ect.

best wishes, keep posting and look forward to getting to know you

debs

--
Illegitimi non Carborundum
"Snyland" <SENyland@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5883-3EF94703-467@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> I am an alcoholic, my name is Scott.
> I had almost 5 years sober by working the 12 steps of A.A. I decided
> to drink again last Sept. and have been on and off again since that
> time. My sponsor had guided me through the steps, but I failed to keep
> working them in my everyday life. I cut back to 1 or 2 meetings a
> week. I never really tried hard enough to be a friend to anyone. I
> havent yet challenged my fears
> or relied on God to see me through them.
> Today is my first day sober, and I am hoping to use this group to give
> and receive some encouragement while I am at home doing, otherwise,
> nothing better.
> I look forward to meeting some of you.
> And to, possibly, having an extended recovery family. Have a good day.
>
>
>
>

[Jonathan Bratt]

In message <5883-3EF94703-467@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net>,
Snyland <SENyland@webtv.net> writes
>I am an alcoholic, my name is Scott.
> I had almost 5 years sober by working the 12 steps of A.A. I decided
>to drink again last Sept. and have been on and off again since that
>time. My sponsor had guided me through the steps, but I failed to keep
>working them in my everyday life. I cut back to 1 or 2 meetings a
>week. I never really tried hard enough to be a friend to anyone. I
>havent yet challenged my fears
>or relied on God to see me through them.
> Today is my first day sober, and I am hoping to use this group to give
>and receive some encouragement while I am at home doing, otherwise,
>nothing better.
> I look forward to meeting some of you.
>And to, possibly, having an extended recovery family. Have a good day.

I have found this group of great value maybe check out AA groups on
line as well - they are there 24/7.

I am sure that there are many things during those 5 years that you are
happy with, and some that you are not. Build on the former and learn
from the latter.

Welcome to the family. Like all families, there are a few bun fights -
just pull up a seat ;-)
--
Jonathan Bratt

[Plug]

"Snyland" <SENyland@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5883-3EF94703-467@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> I am an alcoholic, my name is Scott.
> I had almost 5 years sober by working the 12 steps of A.A. I decided
> to drink again last Sept.
Hi Scott,
Obviously something worked for 5 years. That is fantastic.

I find keeping myself busy - not just for the sake of it but doing useful
things - helps me to keep my mind off me - and at least at the end of the
day I can point to something I have achieved. Not drinking is one of them. I
have really worked hard at relationships - kids, friends, acquaintances, the
woman on the check-out. In the past, I was so wrapped up in myself, I
didn't notice any one else. I'm a people person and drinking kept me
isolated.
Deb/Bubba

[Dan Ballance]

Hi Scott, 5 years sober seems like a lifetime and a half to me - ive
never manged more than three months. I guess this is a very personal
thing to ask, so im not expecting an answer, but what was it that made
you pick up your first drink after all that time. I'm not expecting
details here - i just wonder, was it a bad life event or over
confidence, or something else.

nice to meet you,

dan

[pauly]

Do you think it might have been something else you did wrong apart from
cutting back the meetings? do you think it possible that it could be AA that
got it wrong? we all make mistakes, AA doesn't? Still having to attend more
than 2 meetings a week after 5 years of sobriety, doesn't sound like being
sober to me. Maybe you should try looking at recovery from a different
perspective. Maybe try something else as well as AA. Even moderation has to
be done in moderation.


"Snyland" <SENyland@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5883-3EF94703-467@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> I am an alcoholic, my name is Scott.
> I had almost 5 years sober by working the 12 steps of A.A. I decided
> to drink again last Sept. and have been on and off again since that
> time. My sponsor had guided me through the steps, but I failed to keep
> working them in my everyday life. I cut back to 1 or 2 meetings a
> week. I never really tried hard enough to be a friend to anyone. I
> havent yet challenged my fears
> or relied on God to see me through them.
> Today is my first day sober, and I am hoping to use this group to give
> and receive some encouragement while I am at home doing, otherwise,
> nothing better.
> I look forward to meeting some of you.
> And to, possibly, having an extended recovery family. Have a good day.
>
>
>
>

[Jonathan Bratt]

In message <bdbrbs$kal$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, catsruleok
<catsruleok@bigfoot.com> writes
>"Jonathan Bratt" <jonnybratt@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:thH0bUDcvV++EwHk@aol.com...
>> In message <5883-3EF94703-467@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net>,
>> Snyland <SENyland@webtv.net> writes
>
><snip>
>> Welcome to the family. Like all families, there are a few bun fights -
>> just pull up a seat ;-)
>> --
>> Jonathan Bratt
>
>I like the analogy. I reckon we're the type of family Jerry Springer
>would love to have on his show
>:^))
>
>JB
>
>
OMG can you just imagine? Rosie and Robert being held apart by those big
security guys!!!

;-)

--
Jonathan Bratt

[catsruleok]

"Jonathan Bratt" <jonnybratt@aol.com> wrote in message news:thH0bUDcvV++EwHk@aol.com...
> In message <5883-3EF94703-467@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net>,
> Snyland <SENyland@webtv.net> writes

<snip>
> Welcome to the family. Like all families, there are a few bun fights -
> just pull up a seat ;-)
> --
> Jonathan Bratt

I like the analogy. I reckon we're the type of family Jerry Springer would love to have on his show
:^))

JB

[Snyland]

Hello Pauly, glad to meet you. As far as having to go to meetings, I
cant think of a better way to keep my memory fresh. Nor can I find a
better opportunity to give some hope to other alcoholics. As far as
moderation goes, I never have wanted to drink like other people. I got
drunk the first time I drank and I got drunk the last time I drank. Half
measures will avail me nothing ! Keep us posted on how well moderation
is working for you. Thanks for your reply, Scott

[debs]

lol.... that has just made me laugh thanks for the cheer up

debs

--
Illegitimi non Carborundum
"Jonathan Bratt" <jonnybratt@aol.com> wrote in message
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> In message <bdbrbs$kal$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, catsruleok
> <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> writes
> >"Jonathan Bratt" <jonnybratt@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:thH0bUDcvV++EwHk@aol.com...
> >> In message <5883-3EF94703-467@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net>,
> >> Snyland <SENyland@webtv.net> writes
> >
> ><snip>
> >> Welcome to the family. Like all families, there are a few bun fights -
> >> just pull up a seat ;-)
> >> --
> >> Jonathan Bratt
> >
> >I like the analogy. I reckon we're the type of family Jerry Springer
> >would love to have on his show
> >:^))
> >
> >JB
> >
> >
> OMG can you just imagine? Rosie and Robert being held apart by those big
> security guys!!!
>
> ;-)
>
> --
> Jonathan Bratt

[catsruleok]

"Jonathan Bratt" <jonnybratt@aol.com> wrote in message news:JFA9iRaCaX++EwB+@aol.com...
> In message <bdbrbs$kal$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, catsruleok
> <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> writes
> >"Jonathan Bratt" <jonnybratt@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:thH0bUDcvV++EwHk@aol.com...
> >> In message <5883-3EF94703-467@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net>,
> >> Snyland <SENyland@webtv.net> writes
> >
> ><snip>
> >> Welcome to the family. Like all families, there are a few bun fights -
> >> just pull up a seat ;-)
> >> --
> >> Jonathan Bratt
> >
> >I like the analogy. I reckon we're the type of family Jerry Springer
> >would love to have on his show
> >:^))
> >
> >JB
> >
> >
> OMG can you just imagine? Rosie and Robert being held apart by those big
> security guys!!!
>
> ;-)
>
> --
> Jonathan Bratt

LOL. I would be most concerned for the security guys' safety :^))

JB

[Jonathan Bratt]

In message <u9gKa.9551$XR4.7221@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com>, Moonraker
<fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> writes
>
>"Snyland" <SENyland@webtv.net> wrote in message
>news:13285-3EF98676-11@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net.
>
>
>> Keep us posted on how well moderation is working for you. >
>
>
>
>Yeah!! Right. Keep us posted on moderation. That ought to be good for a
>laugh or two.

I'm surprised you can even spell the word. :-)
--
Jonathan Bratt

[Moonraker]

"Snyland" <SENyland@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:13285-3EF98676-11@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net.


> Keep us posted on how well moderation is working for you. >



Yeah!! Right. Keep us posted on moderation. That ought to be good for a
laugh or two.

[rosie readandpost]

welcome back into recovery scott!
i am glad that you did not die, and got back to us, to share what happened.

this is a great group of folks, but remember THIS IS NOT AA, so not everyone is even working on recovery, seems they are
here to argue with everyone.

there are online AA meetings:
http://www.aa-intergroup.org/

--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie



"Snyland" <SENyland@webtv.net> wrote in message news:5883-3EF94703-467@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> I am an alcoholic, my name is Scott.
> I had almost 5 years sober by working the 12 steps of A.A. I decided
> to drink again last Sept. and have been on and off again since that
> time. My sponsor had guided me through the steps, but I failed to keep
> working them in my everyday life. I cut back to 1 or 2 meetings a
> week. I never really tried hard enough to be a friend to anyone. I
> havent yet challenged my fears
> or relied on God to see me through them.
> Today is my first day sober, and I am hoping to use this group to give
> and receive some encouragement while I am at home doing, otherwise,
> nothing better.
> I look forward to meeting some of you.
> And to, possibly, having an extended recovery family. Have a good day.
>
>
>
>

[rosie readandpost]

> OMG can you just imagine? Rosie and Robert being held apart by those big
> security guys!!!
>
> ;-)
>
> --
> Jonathan Bratt

rosie doesn't fight, and wouldn't be caught dead on any of the kind of television.
:)

[rosie readandpost]

> Still having to attend more
> than 2 meetings a week after 5 years of sobriety, doesn't sound like being
> sober to me.

pauly,

"having to attend"

i have over 20yrs of sobriety and still go to meetings!

i INTEND to go to meetings for the rest of my life.
it is the best tool, i can use, to continue to improve myself, and do HP's will.
it is where i meet newcomers, and share what worked for me.
it is where i meet with "my family of choice", and receive unconditional love.

i think you have a misunderstanding about this.
rosie

[My Name]

"rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote
in news:6JgKa.111616$Xl.2116141@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com:

> this is a great group of folks, but remember THIS IS NOT
> AA, so not everyone is even working on recovery, seems they
> are here to argue with everyone.

Now wait a minute.

You probably didn't consider your words well before posting.
I'm not AA. I am working my own recovery. And I certainly don't
bother to argue with everyone.

Just thought it should be pointed out that just because one
isn't AA, one doesn't necessarily fit your description above.

I'm certain the generalization on your part was merely an
oversight with no slight intended to the others of us with whom
which, you have had no problem. :)

--
You know that some people are different.
Now ain't that a crying shame.
Wouldn't it be a real drag, if we were all the same.
Savoy Brown

[Moonraker]

"My Name" <no@e-mail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93A55A68D2828MyIdToken@walks.like.a.duck.. .
> "rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote
> in news:6JgKa.111616$Xl.2116141@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com:
>
> > this is a great group of folks, but remember THIS IS NOT
> > AA, so not everyone is even working on recovery, seems they
> > are here to argue with everyone.
>
> Now wait a minute.
>
> You probably didn't consider your words well before posting.
> I'm not AA. I am working my own recovery. And I certainly don't
> bother to argue with everyone.
>
> Just thought it should be pointed out that just because one
> isn't AA, one doesn't necessarily fit your description above.
>
> I'm certain the generalization on your part was merely an
> oversight with no slight intended to the others of us with whom
> which, you have had no problem. :)
>
> --
> You know that some people are different.
> Now ain't that a crying shame.
> Wouldn't it be a real drag, if we were all the same.
> Savoy Brown

Yeah...just RRAP blubbering and whining because everbody isn't kneeling at
her altar of "how to do it".

[rosie readandpost]

> Now wait a minute.
>
> You probably didn't consider your words well before posting.
> I'm not AA. I am working my own recovery. And I certainly don't
> bother to argue with everyone.
>
>

you are ABSOLUTELY correct, and i extend a thousand apologies.
i DID not mean that AA was the only way to get into recovery.
i don't believe that at all!

sorry again, and thanks for catching my error!

rosie

[rosie readandpost]

> Yeah...just RRAP blubbering and whining because everbody isn't kneeling at
> her altar of "how to do it".
>
>

good grief!
i have NEVER posted that my way is the only way, because i don't believe that at all.
AA is NOT the recovery answer for everyone.
it is however, mine.
i share my experience, strength, and hope!

chill hon!

rosie

[Tispe]

Jumping in with a welcome to the group, Scott. Six months ago I lost a 5
year sobriety, and prior to that by trying to do it "my way" lost a 9 year
sobriety date. But, I didn't lose the sobriety I'd gained during those
years.....it just changes my anniversary date. And, sounds like you've
learned from your experience as to what you have to do......You have been
off the wagon for awhile, which shows you how progressive alcoholism is, so
you need to be ever viligant and work your program.

Keep posting.....lots of nice folks here ready to reach out.

Tispe
"debs" <debs172@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:bdbls4$fuf$1@titan.btinternet.com...
> Hi there
>
> Welcome to the group. I hope you enjoy the banter here.
> Try not to look at the previous few months as a complete failure, after
all
> you did learn something didn't you? As the song goes 'pick yourself up,
> dust yourself down and start all over again.'
> I have had six months sober and it has been the best six months of my
life.
> I don't go to AA but I don't shout down anyone who does....each to their
> own.
> I devised my own recovery plan, using bits and pieces from all sorts of
> recovery plans. What I do know is that I am powerless against alcohol and
> for me there is no option of drinking in moderation. Been there, tried it
> and got several tee-shirts ect.
>
> best wishes, keep posting and look forward to getting to know you
>
> debs
>
> --
> Illegitimi non Carborundum
> "Snyland" <SENyland@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:5883-3EF94703-467@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> > I am an alcoholic, my name is Scott.
> > I had almost 5 years sober by working the 12 steps of A.A. I decided
> > to drink again last Sept. and have been on and off again since that
> > time. My sponsor had guided me through the steps, but I failed to keep
> > working them in my everyday life. I cut back to 1 or 2 meetings a
> > week. I never really tried hard enough to be a friend to anyone. I
> > havent yet challenged my fears
> > or relied on God to see me through them.
> > Today is my first day sober, and I am hoping to use this group to give
> > and receive some encouragement while I am at home doing, otherwise,
> > nothing better.
> > I look forward to meeting some of you.
> > And to, possibly, having an extended recovery family. Have a good day.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

[George &The Dragon]

> But, I didn't lose the sobriety I'd gained during those
> years.....it just changes my anniversary date.

I had two and a half years before the Dragon persuaded me to try
"controlled" drinking. It didn't work.

A day without alcohol is never wasted.

Good luck, Snyland.

[pauly]

I am not trying to moderte my drinking. I was referring to moderation in
other things like going to meetings. We need to look at other areas of our
lives to see where our addictive behaviour is affecting us and ohers.

[Dan Ballance]

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:39:18 +0100, "pauly"
<paul.youles@REMOVETHISvirgin.net> wrote:
> Even moderation has to be done in moderation.

LOL ;-)

[Dan Ballance]

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:38:26 GMT, "rosie readandpost"
<readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:

>welcome back into recovery scott!
>i am glad that you did not die, and got back to us, to share what happened.
>
>this is a great group of folks, but remember THIS IS NOT AA, so not everyone is even working on recovery, seems they are
>here to argue with everyone.
>
>there are online AA meetings:
>http://www.aa-intergroup.org/

Alcohlics Anonymous

and

working on recovery

the two are not mutually exclusive ;-)

many paths to walk, we all find our own,
dan

[rosie readandpost]

> Alcohlics Anonymous
>
> and
>
> working on recovery
>
> the two are not mutually exclusive ;-)


of course you are right..............
i was talking about those few in here, who seem to be here just to argue.

rosie

[Dan Ballance]

sorry, didn't mean to snap