Agent_Orange
10-15-2003, 02:24 PM
"JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message news:<bmfa0h$u7n$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> "Agent_Orange" <agent_orange@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
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> > "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message news:<bln5fv$pgu$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>
> Dear Agent Orange,
>
> If you have recovered from alcoholism, I would be interested to know via this NG how you did it and
> how long ago you did it. I also think that if you post here what you say could be of help to
> someone who is looking for an alternative to AA. I look forward to hearing from you.
>
> Yours
>
> JB
I will have 3 years in 5 more days.
How I did it was basically just quit drinking and smoking,
and stick to it. It is called the "Do It Yourself" program.
And use the motto of the Apollo 13 movie:
"Failure is not an option."
It helped that my doctor told me that I would die
if I didn't quit. And I was sick enought to believe him.
That's a good motivation enhancer.
If you want alternatives to A.A., there are many:
SMART == Self-Management and Recovery Training
SOS == Secular Organizations for Sobriety
WFS == Women For Sobriety
MFS == Men For Sobriety
Detlef Sax regularly lists their web addresses over in the
alt.recovery.from-12-steps groups.
But above all, the most popular program is just "do it yourself".
The Harvard Medical School said that 4 out of 5 of the people
who successfully quit drinking for a year or more do it alone.
See:
http://aorange1.tripod.com/orange-effectiveness.html#Harvard_Mental
* Agent Orange *
* agent_orange@linuxmail.org *
* AA and Recovery Cult Debunking *
* http://aorange1.tripod.com/ *
** Being surrounded by a group of people who keep telling
** you that you are powerless over alcohol, and that your
** will power is useless, is not getting "support". It is
** getting sabotaged.
** With friends like them, you don't need any enemies.
> "Agent_Orange" <agent_orange@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
> news:8e728989.0310130937.54f4a564@posting.google.c om...
> > "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message news:<bln5fv$pgu$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>
> Dear Agent Orange,
>
> If you have recovered from alcoholism, I would be interested to know via this NG how you did it and
> how long ago you did it. I also think that if you post here what you say could be of help to
> someone who is looking for an alternative to AA. I look forward to hearing from you.
>
> Yours
>
> JB
I will have 3 years in 5 more days.
How I did it was basically just quit drinking and smoking,
and stick to it. It is called the "Do It Yourself" program.
And use the motto of the Apollo 13 movie:
"Failure is not an option."
It helped that my doctor told me that I would die
if I didn't quit. And I was sick enought to believe him.
That's a good motivation enhancer.
If you want alternatives to A.A., there are many:
SMART == Self-Management and Recovery Training
SOS == Secular Organizations for Sobriety
WFS == Women For Sobriety
MFS == Men For Sobriety
Detlef Sax regularly lists their web addresses over in the
alt.recovery.from-12-steps groups.
But above all, the most popular program is just "do it yourself".
The Harvard Medical School said that 4 out of 5 of the people
who successfully quit drinking for a year or more do it alone.
See:
http://aorange1.tripod.com/orange-effectiveness.html#Harvard_Mental
* Agent Orange *
* agent_orange@linuxmail.org *
* AA and Recovery Cult Debunking *
* http://aorange1.tripod.com/ *
** Being surrounded by a group of people who keep telling
** you that you are powerless over alcohol, and that your
** will power is useless, is not getting "support". It is
** getting sabotaged.
** With friends like them, you don't need any enemies.