7-31-06

[readandpostrosie]

July 31, 2006

Daily Reflections


A PRAYER FOR ALL SEASONS

God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change.
Courage to change the things we can, and the wisdom to know the
difference.
TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 125

The power of this prayer is overwhelming in that its simple beauty
parallels the A.A. Fellowship. There are times when I get stuck while
reciting it, but if I examine the section which is troubling me, I find the
answer to my problem. The first time this happened I was scared, but
now I use it as a valuable tool. By accepting life as it is, I gain
serenity.
By taking action, I gain courage and I thank God for the ability to
distinguish between those situations I can work on, and those I must
turn over. All that I have now is a gift from God: my life, my
usefulness, my contentment, and this program. The serenity enables
me to continue walking forward.
Alcoholics Anonymous is the easier, softer way.

************************************************** *********

[Tex]

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:47:43 GMT, "readandpostrosie"
<readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Alcoholics Anonymous is the easier, softer way.

Then according to aa I have to give aa up .... that was as aa points
out one of my real problems....I always wanted or take the easier
softer way.

[Mark Warner]

Tex wrote:
> "readandpostrosie" wrote:
>
>> Alcoholics Anonymous is the easier, softer way.
>
> Then according to aa I have to give aa up .... that was as aa points
> out one of my real problems....I always wanted or take the easier
> softer way.

You're sounding more and more like Virt.

--
Mark Warner
lose .inhibitions when replying

[Tex]

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:19:29 -0400, "Mark Warner"
<mhwarner.inhibitions@insightbb.com> wrote:

>You're sounding more and more like Virt.

You probably don't remember...

"AND you just earned a 1st Class VirtSpeak Award! Kudos."

That was from Virt...too! Ha ha!

[Tim and Lisa]

"Tex" <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:v0fsc214motjui3cci0i71nu4b267lmjha@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:19:29 -0400, "Mark Warner"
> <mhwarner.inhibitions@insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>>You're sounding more and more like Virt.
>
> You probably don't remember...
>
> "AND you just earned a 1st Class VirtSpeak Award! Kudos."
>
> That was from Virt...too! Ha ha!



What is the award?

[Nuts]

Tim and Lisa wrote:

> What is the award?

REward...

Virt's respect should be reward enough for anyone.

--
Justin

[Mark T]

I realize it's only a word . . . . . . .

The original prayer is more like:

God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change,
Courage to change the things we SHOULD, And wisdom to know the
difference.

I take the program of Aloholics Anonymous VERY seriously. NOTHING could
be more serious, for without it - I am worser than dead. It took many,
many years of agony to discover, by having no choice but to live it,
that AA is quite simply doing about as precisely as I can, what they
did over 70 years ago that was written in the original manuscript.

That was eventually watered down, I believe to be more accessable or
palatable to people that didn't go as far down the scale as I did. It
then became the first 164 pages of The Book with the title of our
Program. It's very sad that you don't hear more about AA at "AA"
meetings. It just about killed me and has indeed killed many for us
whos lives may have been saved.

I CAN change my sobriety date by stopping doing what they did . . . . .
.. . that doesn't mean I SHOULD!

[F. H.]

Mark T wrote:
> I realize it's only a word . . . . . . .
>
> The original prayer is more like:

> God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change,
> Courage to change the things we SHOULD, And wisdom to know the
> difference.

"SHOULDS" are for parents, preachers and politicians.

http://www.aahistory.com/prayer.html

> I take the program of Aloholics Anonymous VERY seriously.

Generally speaking, in my experience, soon after one gets to the "VERY
seriously" stage with their beliefs is when they begin to see themselves
as authorities and begin to act in an authoritarian manner. At that
point they tend to be regarded as "preachers." In some cases, even
become same. Not all the sheep however, respond in a positive way, yet,
flocks are forged. And the beat goes on.

[Tex]

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:26:45 GMT, "Tim and Lisa"
<tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:

>What is the award?

The award is the award itself.

[readandpostrosie]

..
>
> http://www.aahistory.com/prayer.html
>


i swear, NOTHING, is just plain simple.........................damn it!

[Tex]

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:46:50 GMT, "F. H." <connectu2@verizon.net>
wrote:

> Not all the sheep however, respond in a positive way, yet,
>flocks are forged. And the beat goes on.

Flock you! And the beat goes on....unless you hit a tree on a downhill
run...hope I have that right.

[Tim and Lisa]

"Tex" <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:224tc21ofrutn8d34fph5vf77p70hta7ao@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:26:45 GMT, "Tim and Lisa"
> <tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>What is the award?
>
> The award is the award itself.

Thanks,

Now what the f k does reward mean?

[F. H.]

Tex wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:46:50 GMT, "F. H." <connectu2@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Not all the sheep however, respond in a positive way, yet,
>> flocks are forged. And the beat goes on.
>
> Flock you! And the beat goes on....unless you hit a tree on a downhill
> run...hope I have that right.

Prezactly!

[Tex]

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:29:47 GMT, "Tim and Lisa"
<tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"Tex" <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:224tc21ofrutn8d34fph5vf77p70hta7ao@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:26:45 GMT, "Tim and Lisa"
>> <tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>What is the award?
>>
>> The award is the award itself.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Now what the f k does reward mean?
>
I'm talking award they is talking reward...so I would say as so you
might pick up on it is one is kissing ass and one is kicking
ass..which might fit or not depending how you look at it or don't look
at. Which is your choice if you decide to have a choice.

What doe f k mean ...I know what f k means.

[Tim and Lisa]

"Tex" <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:311uc254s6ps5aphhlvmq3d2r1qa0j7e0c@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:29:47 GMT, "Tim and Lisa"
> <tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Tex" <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:224tc21ofrutn8d34fph5vf77p70hta7ao@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:26:45 GMT, "Tim and Lisa"
>>> <tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>What is the award?
>>>
>>> The award is the award itself.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Now what the f k does reward mean?
>>
> I'm talking award they is talking reward...so I would say as so you
> might pick up on it is one is kissing ass and one is kicking
> ass..which might fit or not depending how you look at it or don't look
> at. Which is your choice if you decide to have a choice.
>
> What doe f k mean ...I know what f k means.


It means sometimes it feels good to cuss once in awhile! ;o)

[Nuts]

Tim and Lisa wrote:

> "Tex" <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:311uc254s6ps5aphhlvmq3d2r1qa0j7e0c@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:29:47 GMT, "Tim and Lisa"
> > <tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Tex" <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:224tc21ofrutn8d34fph5vf77p70hta7ao@4ax.com...
> >>> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:26:45 GMT, "Tim and Lisa"
> >>> <tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>What is the award?
> >>>
> >>> The award is the award itself.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Now what the f k does reward mean?
> >>
> > I'm talking award they is talking reward...so I would say as so you
> > might pick up on it is one is kissing ass and one is kicking
> > ass..which might fit or not depending how you look at it or don't look
> > at. Which is your choice if you decide to have a choice.
> >
> > What doe f k mean ...I know what f k means.
>
>
> It means sometimes it feels good to cuss once in awhile! ;o)

In other words, it's rewarding to cuss every now and then.
Or.. Cussing occasionally has its rewards...

But have you won any awards for your cussing?

--
Justin

[Tim and Lisa]

"Nuts" <nutso_fast@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:B6Jzg.72584$fG3.53536@dukeread09...
> Tim and Lisa wrote:
>
>> "Tex" <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:311uc254s6ps5aphhlvmq3d2r1qa0j7e0c@4ax.com...
>> > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:29:47 GMT, "Tim and Lisa"
>> > <tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>"Tex" <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:224tc21ofrutn8d34fph5vf77p70hta7ao@4ax.com...
>> >>> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:26:45 GMT, "Tim and Lisa"
>> >>> <tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>What is the award?
>> >>>
>> >>> The award is the award itself.
>> >>
>> >>Thanks,
>> >>
>> >>Now what the f k does reward mean?
>> >>
>> > I'm talking award they is talking reward...so I would say as so you
>> > might pick up on it is one is kissing ass and one is kicking
>> > ass..which might fit or not depending how you look at it or don't look
>> > at. Which is your choice if you decide to have a choice.
>> >
>> > What doe f k mean ...I know what f k means.
>>
>>
>> It means sometimes it feels good to cuss once in awhile! ;o)
>
> In other words, it's rewarding to cuss every now and then.
> Or.. Cussing occasionally has its rewards...
>
> But have you won any awards for your cussing?
>


Oh yes!! Big ole smile. ;O))

[Tex]

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:59:04 GMT, "Nuts" <nutso_fast@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>But have you won any awards for your cussing?
>
>--
>Justin

I once received a night's free lodging for calling a peace officer a
fucking pig. :]

[F. H.]

Tex wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:59:04 GMT, "Nuts" <nutso_fast@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> But have you won any awards for your cussing?
>>
>> --
>> Justin
>
> I once received a night's free lodging for calling a peace officer a
> fucking pig. :]

Heh, you've been one upped with "sugar tits." Same result with regard
to lodging.

[Nuts]

F. H wrote:

> >
> > I once received a night's free lodging for calling a peace officer a
> > fucking pig. :]
>
> Heh, you've been one upped with "sugar tits." Same result with regard
> to lodging.

Wow... I'd never have even gotten an honorable mention with
you two around!

Heaven knows I'd have tried, though.....

--
Justin

[mdthornton@adelphia.net]

Thanks Tex

(I think!!!)

Tex wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:46:50 GMT, "F. H." <connectu2@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Not all the sheep however, respond in a positive way, yet,
> >flocks are forged. And the beat goes on.
>
> Flock you! And the beat goes on....unless you hit a tree on a downhill
> run...hope I have that right.

[Tex]

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:24:27 GMT, "F. H." <connectu2@verizon.net>
wrote:

>Tex wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:59:04 GMT, "Nuts" <nutso_fast@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> But have you won any awards for your cussing?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Justin
>>
>> I once received a night's free lodging for calling a peace officer a
>> fucking pig. :]
>
>Heh, you've been one upped with "sugar tits." Same result with regard
>to lodging.

Not sure about that...the judge gave me a coupon good for a year for
45days free lodging if I felt the need to redeem it.

Even drunk one should refrain from sugar tits...that could lead to a
cellie named bubba and his sweet dick....plus his reservation was
already confirmed before he got to "sugar tits"....

I'll fight to the death before I'm one upped...:]

[mdthornton@adelphia.net]

If discovering what the program of AA is through years of AA action
seems authoritarian . . . . perhaps I am. I am sorry if you, or others,
viewed it as preaching. I am here to carry THE message.

F. H. wrote:

Generally speaking, in my experience, soon after one gets to the "VERY
> seriously" stage with their beliefs is when they begin to see themselves
> as authorities and begin to act in an authoritarian manner. At that
> point they tend to be regarded as "preachers." In some cases, even
> become same. Not all the sheep however, respond in a positive way, yet,
> flocks are forged. And the beat goes on.

[Tex]

On 1 Aug 2006 11:48:13 -0700, mdthornton@adelphia.net wrote:

>If discovering what the program of AA is through years of AA action
>seems authoritarian . . . . perhaps I am. I am sorry if you, or others,
>viewed it as preaching. I am here to carry THE message.

Do not let them get you down....Carry The Message.

[Tex]

On 1 Aug 2006 11:40:28 -0700, mdthornton@adelphia.net wrote:

>Thanks Tex
>
>(I think!!!)
>
>Tex wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:46:50 GMT, "F. H." <connectu2@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Not all the sheep however, respond in a positive way, yet,
>> >flocks are forged. And the beat goes on.
>>
>> Flock you! And the beat goes on....unless you hit a tree on a downhill
>> run...hope I have that right.

Careful....thinking is worse than preaching.

[F. H.]

mdthornton@adelphia.net wrote:
> If discovering what the program of AA is through years of AA action
> seems authoritarian . . . . perhaps I am. I am sorry if you, or others,
> viewed it as preaching. I am here to carry THE message.

(((<< THE >>))) message. Right. And THE prayer does not say "SHOULD."

"Preachers" likely would prefer "SHOULD" though. And what you personally
discovered has *nothing* to do with what I said. *What* you say, and
*how* you say it, might apply. Do you carry the message with an
evangelical enthusiasm?

> F. H. wrote:
>
> Generally speaking, in my experience, soon after one gets to the "VERY
>> seriously" stage with their beliefs is when they begin to see themselves
>> as authorities and begin to act in an authoritarian manner. At that
>> point they tend to be regarded as "preachers." In some cases, even
>> become same. Not all the sheep however, respond in a positive way, yet,
>> flocks are forged. And the beat goes on.
>

[F. H.]

Tex wrote:
> On 1 Aug 2006 11:40:28 -0700, mdthornton@adelphia.net wrote:
>
>> Thanks Tex
>>
>> (I think!!!)
>>
>> Tex wrote:
>>> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:46:50 GMT, "F. H." <connectu2@verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not all the sheep however, respond in a positive way, yet,
>>>> flocks are forged. And the beat goes on.
>>> Flock you! And the beat goes on....unless you hit a tree on a downhill
>>> run...hope I have that right.
>
> Careful....thinking is worse than preaching.

That's because it leads to preaching.

[Tex]

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:28:10 GMT, "F. H." <connectu2@verizon.net>
wrote:

>Tex wrote:
>> On 1 Aug 2006 11:40:28 -0700, mdthornton@adelphia.net wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Tex
>>>
>>> (I think!!!)
>>>
>>> Tex wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:46:50 GMT, "F. H." <connectu2@verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not all the sheep however, respond in a positive way, yet,
>>>>> flocks are forged. And the beat goes on.
>>>> Flock you! And the beat goes on....unless you hit a tree on a downhill
>>>> run...hope I have that right.
>>
>> Careful....thinking is worse than preaching.
>
>That's because it leads to preaching.

and preaching leads to screeching and then on to bitching.

[Tim and Lisa]

"Tex" <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:01dvc214ggvhvg3cgkj2e9scd4a6ga0smk@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:28:10 GMT, "F. H." <connectu2@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Tex wrote:
>>> On 1 Aug 2006 11:40:28 -0700, mdthornton@adelphia.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Tex
>>>>
>>>> (I think!!!)
>>>>
>>>> Tex wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:46:50 GMT, "F. H." <connectu2@verizon.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not all the sheep however, respond in a positive way, yet,
>>>>>> flocks are forged. And the beat goes on.
>>>>> Flock you! And the beat goes on....unless you hit a tree on a downhill
>>>>> run...hope I have that right.
>>>
>>> Careful....thinking is worse than preaching.
>>
>>That's because it leads to preaching.
>
> and preaching leads to screeching and then on to bitching.


....so it's say easier to just go wiff the flow.

[Tex]

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:27:01 GMT, "F. H." <connectu2@verizon.net>
wrote:

>mdthornton@adelphia.net wrote:
>> If discovering what the program of AA is through years of AA action
>> seems authoritarian . . . . perhaps I am. I am sorry if you, or others,
>> viewed it as preaching. I am here to carry THE message.
>
>(((<< THE >>))) message. Right. And THE prayer does not say "SHOULD."
>
:] :].....THE message ...come on it's the whole deal.

The prayer says ...Your in a spot you can't do anything about....Shut
up kiss your ass good-bye and go along with it or Wise up and move the
fuck along...Your not wise enough to figure it out so ask me and I'll
tell ya what the hell to do.


>"Preachers" likely would prefer "SHOULD" though. And what you personally
>discovered has *nothing* to do with what I said. *What* you say, and
>*how* you say it, might apply. Do you carry the message with an
>evangelical enthusiasm?
>

I certainly hope so ....wouldn't be much sense preaching if ya didn't
have a little enthusiasm...more enthusiasm more bucks in the bucket so
to speak.

>> F. H. wrote:
>>
>> Generally speaking, in my experience, soon after one gets to the "VERY
>>> seriously" stage with their beliefs is when they begin to see themselves
>>> as authorities and begin to act in an authoritarian manner. At that
>>> point they tend to be regarded as "preachers." In some cases, even
>>> become same. Not all the sheep however, respond in a positive way, yet,
>>> flocks are forged. And the beat goes on.
>>

[Tex]

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:13:04 GMT, "Tim and Lisa"
<tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:

>
>...so it's say easier to just go wiff the flow.

We have already established 'easier' is bad...they have decided what
is good...those & them will be along shortly to decide if we and they
are anywhere near who it may concern and if and how they should tell
you and I though it might force us to abandom them.

[Tim and Lisa]

"Tex" <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:53hvc2553htb93ph6cqs1cv8fo78lj8g1e@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:13:04 GMT, "Tim and Lisa"
> <tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>...so it's say easier to just go wiff the flow.
>
> We have already established 'easier' is bad...they have decided what
> is good...those & them will be along shortly to decide if we and they
> are anywhere near who it may concern and if and how they should tell
> you and I though it might force us to abandom them.

Okay, well who's on first? What's on second? I don't know is on third and
so and so just stole home. All in a blink of the eye nonetheless!! Now
you're saying I gotta watch out for they, them and those???? Jeeez, that's
simply too much for the three of us: me, myself and hmmmmmm....oh yeah,
I!!!! Eye yie yie!!!!

[Tex]

On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:07:39 GMT, "Tim and Lisa"
<tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"Tex" <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:53hvc2553htb93ph6cqs1cv8fo78lj8g1e@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:13:04 GMT, "Tim and Lisa"
>> <tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>...so it's say easier to just go wiff the flow.
>>
>> We have already established 'easier' is bad...they have decided what
>> is good...those & them will be along shortly to decide if we and they
>> are anywhere near who it may concern and if and how they should tell
>> you and I though it might force us to abandom them.
>
>Okay, well who's on first? What's on second? I don't know is on third and
>so and so just stole home. All in a blink of the eye nonetheless!! Now
>you're saying I gotta watch out for they, them and those???? Jeeez, that's
>simply too much for the three of us: me, myself and hmmmmmm....oh yeah,
>I!!!! Eye yie yie!!!!
>

If anyone ever breaks our code we are screwed! :]