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Jaime Clark
10-12-2003, 05:15 PM
I ‘am a recovering alcoholic and I might be getting a job requiring
drug testing. I take Antabuse and was wondering if my employer will
be able to tell from the drug test that I take Antabuse??

Roger Shoaf
10-12-2003, 05:23 PM
The issue on a DOT drug test is if you have taken any illegal drugs. Should
the antibuse show up explain it to the medical review officer. If this was
causing the problem then you pass the test.

--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.


"Jaime Clark" <pp1010987@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I 'am a recovering alcoholic and I might be getting a job requiring
> drug testing. I take Antabuse and was wondering if my employer will
> be able to tell from the drug test that I take Antabuse??

rosie read and post
10-12-2003, 07:06 PM
if i remember correctly, antabuse WILL NOT show up on a blood screen.

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rosie
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"Jaime Clark" <pp1010987@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ce264fcd.0310121315.2b7a9c0f@posting.google.c om...
> I 'am a recovering alcoholic and I might be getting a job requiring
> drug testing. I take Antabuse and was wondering if my employer will
> be able to tell from the drug test that I take Antabuse??

Gregg Fowler
10-12-2003, 09:54 PM
No, the drug tests are targeted at specific drug identifiers and Disufiram
is not a targeted drug. Your employer should however wish more of its
employees were taking Antabuse. :-)

Gregg

"Jaime Clark" <pp1010987@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I 'am a recovering alcoholic and I might be getting a job requiring
> drug testing. I take Antabuse and was wondering if my employer will
> be able to tell from the drug test that I take Antabuse??

Shawster
10-13-2003, 10:59 AM
Gregg's right. I administer drug tests. they don't look for the actual
drug, just the post products of drug use.

It always cracks me up when people pull out their prescription bottles to
explain away a positive test. I always ask where the prescription for Coke
and Pot are. There are different tests available, but none that I've seen
look for anything that isn't abuseable. Looking for antabuse might be
considered an invasion of privacy, like looking for medicine related to HIV.

The one that can answer any question like this is the pharmacist that gave
you the drug.

My question is, why is a "recovering" alcoholic taking antabuse?

Shaw

"Gregg Fowler" <gregg_fowler@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> No, the drug tests are targeted at specific drug identifiers and Disufiram
> is not a targeted drug. Your employer should however wish more of its
> employees were taking Antabuse. :-)
>
> Gregg
>
> "Jaime Clark" <pp1010987@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ce264fcd.0310121315.2b7a9c0f@posting.google.c om...
> > I 'am a recovering alcoholic and I might be getting a job requiring
> > drug testing. I take Antabuse and was wondering if my employer will
> > be able to tell from the drug test that I take Antabuse??
>
>
>

rosie read and post
10-13-2003, 11:05 AM
>
> My question is, why is a "recovering" alcoholic taking antabuse?
>
> Shaw
>


why not?
antabuse has been found to be a very effective tool in early sobriety.

MYOB
10-13-2003, 05:16 PM
"rosie read and post" <readandpostREMOVE@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>>
>> My question is, why is a "recovering" alcoholic taking antabuse?
>>
>> Shaw
>>
>
>
> why not?
> antabuse has been found to be a very effective tool in early sobriety.
>
>
>
>

It is also very hard on the liver, and should not be used long term.

Shawster
10-14-2003, 07:52 PM
"Moonraker" <moonrak9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
> "rosie read and post" <readandpostREMOVE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:GPTib.27080$pg7.11601@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> >
> > > I asked as I have never heard anyone have anything positive to say
> > about
> > > antabuse. Either they kept drinking on the pill, or they stopped
> > drinking
> > > without it.
> >
> >
> > shaw,
> > you need to KEEP COMING BACK for a few years................you WILL
> > meet many antabuse success stories!
> >
> >
>
> Over the years, I've heard several thousand people share in AA meetings.
I
> don't recall a single one ever mentioning Antabuse as anything effective
in
> their recovery. I've heard many say that it didn't slow their drinking
> down one bit.
>
> Here's RRAP playing her "mommy knows best card" again.

here we go with the age thing again.

geez, I guess if I were sloshed to the gills on pills, I could have that
great stick-to-it-tive-ness. to keep coming back.

I have only heard antabuse horror stories.

but then again rosie thinks I am in the recovery industry... Her
comprehension is a bit off.


>
>
>

rosie read and post
10-14-2003, 10:01 PM
> but then again rosie thinks I am in the recovery industry...


what DID you say you do?
something with a prison?

Moonraker
10-14-2003, 11:13 PM
"rosie read and post" <readandpostREMOVE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> > but then again rosie thinks I am in the recovery industry...
>
>
> what DID you say you do?
> something with a prison?

He killfiled you...really. So, go use your google and find out.
>
>

rosie read and post
10-15-2003, 08:00 AM
> > what DID you say you do?
> > something with a prison?
>
> He killfiled you...really.


LOL!
ahhhhhhhhhhhh, sure!

Blue Moon
10-15-2003, 03:36 PM
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:59:15 GMT, "Shawster"
<shawster@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

>My question is, why is a "recovering" alcoholic taking antabuse?

He said "recovering", not "recovered" :)

--
Blue Moon

Blue Moon
10-15-2003, 03:36 PM
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:37:32 GMT, "rosie read and post"
<readandpostREMOVE@yahoo.com> wrote:

>when antabuse is prescribed, it is to be given as an adjunct to therapy
>and/or support groups.

Do the doctors know this?

--
Blue Moon

Blue Moon
10-15-2003, 03:36 PM
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:09:56 +0000 (UTC), "debs" <debs172@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>I got sober with the help of my mental health support team and sheer will
>power, but I don't say that is right or wrong. My next step was going to be
>antabuse.

The problem with antabuse is that it does nothing to combat the mental
insanity of alcoholism. At best it can help the individual with
physical detox.

--
Blue Moon

Blue Moon
10-15-2003, 03:36 PM
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:27:11 -0400, "Moonraker"
<moonrak9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>I looked at Antabuse as me substituting one crutch for another.

Many consider AA in the same light.

--
Blue Moon

rosie read and post
10-15-2003, 04:28 PM
any good doctor would know that!

--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie

"deficit spending is an unconscionable form of fiscal child abuse."
...............................stephen moore



"Blue Moon" <mfoco_uk@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:37:32 GMT, "rosie read and post"
> <readandpostREMOVE@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >when antabuse is prescribed, it is to be given as an adjunct to
therapy
> >and/or support groups.
>
> Do the doctors know this?
>
> --
> Blue Moon

Robert McGregor
10-15-2003, 10:34 PM
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> "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
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>
> <snip>
>
> When you were in early recovery, did you go though a lot
> > of emotional
> > > pain/discomfort and if so, what enabled you to cope with it ?
> > >
> > > Best regards.
> > >
> >
> > G'Day JB
> > I did go through an extraordinary amount of emotional pain. At one stage
I
> > can even remember thinking that if I had known what I was in for, I
would
> > *never* have attempted recovery. I believe that pain is par for the
course,
> > as are the solutions.
> >
> > Might seem a paradox, coming from an agnostic like me, but many of my
> > solutions were forged at step three. At step three, I abandoned outcomes
to
> > "God" and used the mental energy that had been previously focussed on
trying
> > to control outcomes, for the actions that are my part of the 12 step
deal.
> >
> > Even then, *dependant on which direction I was looking,* I was often
> > dissatisfied and disillusioned with my progress.
> >
> > One remedy was to pick on a simple specific change that was obviously
> > attainable, and make that change. Can still remember the first change,
it
> > was as simple as stopping tossing empty cigarette packets out of the car
> > window. That gave me instant gratification of the positive variety. My
> > ineptitude at subsequent simple changes did a lot in initiating
tolerance of
> > my fellow human beings, something I have never been notorious for;-)
> >
> > The main remedy though was probably to re- affirm my step three in my
> > attitudes/actions, rather than merely with my intellect.
> >
> > It did not all come together for me until I left the imagined sanctuary
of
> > the AA organisation behind, and accepted total personal responsibility
for
> > my recovery. However, I cannot usefully speculate what my results would
have
> > been had I not spent about the first 4 years being a conscientious
active AA
> > member.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> Hi Bob,
>
> Again, what you say makes a lot of sense. I've already identifed within
myself some of the attitudes
> and behaviours that create problems for me and if I can catch myself
thinking or behaving in any of
> those ways, I try to immedately stop.

Have not heard that aspect of recovery, "catch myself thinking or behaving"
vocalised much at all in the "recovery" arena. JB, it's great to hear it
coming from you. Not sure you were here when I
posted a tool I use to assess where my first thoughts and actions are at.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?B23331A36


>However, they are deep rooted and so continue to be my first
> response on many occasions. The struggle that I am having with myself,
is part of what is causing
> my husband and I to have a strained relationship at this time. This
makes me feel even more
> stressed. Yesterday was a very difficult day but it may have been worth
it. Today, I can see that
> what happened yesterday during the day enabled me last night to face up to
yet more of my issues
> (?). In so doing, I'm thinking that I am continuing to make progress in
my recovery.

I'm guessing when the time will come for you too, where specific critical
instinctive negative thoughts/actions become so rare they are a real shock
to the system when they occur.

>
> BTW, I wish for my husband's sake and mine that it was not necessary for
us to be in a relationship
> at this time. There are good reasons why we have to be so I hope for him
and for me that today will
> be a better day.

Don't you think wishing for what is not, is negative?

>
> With grateful thanks for your continuing interest in helping me.
>

:) Tha word "help" is a buzz word for me here, I see my part as merely (as
much
for my own clarity as anything else) sharing, as distinct from giving.

Bob

Blue Moon
10-15-2003, 11:24 PM
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:28:50 -0500, "rosie read and post"
<readandpostREMOVE@yahoo.com> wrote:

>any good doctor would know that!

Yep. Er.... know any good doctors?

--
Blue Moon

rosie read and post
10-16-2003, 08:10 AM
YUP!

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read and post daily, it works!
rosie

Love cures. It cures those who give it and it cures those who receive
it.
.......................Dr. Karl Menninger





"Blue Moon" <mfoco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:28:50 -0500, "rosie read and post"
> <readandpostREMOVE@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >any good doctor would know that!
>
> Yep. Er.... know any good doctors?
>
> --
> Blue Moon