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try_yetagain2@yahoo.co.nz
05-17-2006, 10:00 PM
hi...usually drink vodka...but have noticed alcohol is staying in
system for long periods, am measuring my drinks and bought a hydometer
to check percentage other day, and used to have a breatherlizer, but
noticed with breatherlizer alcohol was staying in system for 24 hours
or more when was only consuming 12 - 15 standard drinks...what is
happening...if was liver faliure should have symptoms, but apart from
being tired sometimes, have none

Devon
05-17-2006, 11:17 PM
I don't know much about liver damage, but a diabetes nutritionist once told
me that once the liver detects alcohol, it stops doing everything else to
flush the alcohol. I also read on WebMD that liver damage can go undetected
without symptoms for a long time. Get in to see your doctor. Do a blood
test. I did and it was enough to get my doctor concerned. I stopped the
alcohol and we're continuing to watch my blood. If my blood shows more
problems, my liver gets an ultrasound. After that, I don't know...I haven't
been there yet.

Is that a good reason to quit drinking?

If anything, see your doctor. (It was really hard for me to face my doctor
with full honesty, but it must be done...I know how hard it was for me and
how hard it could be for you.) Good luck.

--Devon


<try_yetagain2@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
news:1147921217.428898.53510@y43g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> hi...usually drink vodka...but have noticed alcohol is staying in
> system for long periods, am measuring my drinks and bought a hydometer
> to check percentage other day, and used to have a breatherlizer, but
> noticed with breatherlizer alcohol was staying in system for 24 hours
> or more when was only consuming 12 - 15 standard drinks...what is
> happening...if was liver faliure should have symptoms, but apart from
> being tired sometimes, have none
>

try_yetagain2@yahoo.co.nz
05-18-2006, 12:58 AM
thankyou, are bloods a reliable test, as know in past have done bloods,
before detox and after, and before they always look bad, is that just
way of detecting alcohol use but not liver damage, is it possible for
liver to just fail, maybe under strain, but then come right again? had
ultra scan last august and every thing was healthy, how long are they
valid for

the_blogologist
05-18-2006, 04:58 AM
<try_yetagain2@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:

> is it possible for liver to just fail, maybe under strain, but then come
> right again?

I drank myself really sick 3 times, and I don't mean a hangover. First
time couldn't eat for 3 days, had an absolutely profound feeling of
ickyness, if you can imagine that. Second had yellow bile coming out my
butt. I probalby should have been in the hospital. Third time in
addition to that, was also vomiting yellow bile by simply sipping water,
made my bathroom stink like someone died - the smell took months to go
away. Both times I could still smell it on the palms of my hands for
months after - wash my hands real good, 30 minutes later the smell would
be back.

Eventually I recovered and was back to drinking about a fifth of whiskey
a day :o/ what finally stopped me drinking was getting my first DUI in
Nevada (Nevada is VERY hard on DUIs, 3rd one is a year in prison and
every one after that). I got a 30 day suspended sentance for my 1st DUI,
so if they catch me drinking it is 30 days in jail, which is why i've
been sober for 5 months now :o/

But my last experience with the yellow bile I discovered I recovered
much faster by consuming fresh made juice from lemons. I know this
sounds absurd, because this is the opposite of what we're taught, mainly
because the big food advertisement dollars for the big networks is in
processed foods, not what anyone can grow.

Incidentally, fresh made juice is the type of food that you're supposed
to break a water fast with; I learned this since my first involuntary
fast due to alcohol abuse got me learning about fasting :o/ Over the
years I remember a number of people in the news who had gone about 30
days without eating who fell over dead soon after eating. I've since
learned that they were fine, it's just the victim and the doctors had no
clue about how to break a long fast. They broke it wrong and that's what
killed them. The correct way to break a long fast is consuming only
about an ounce or two of fresh made juice every couple hours, gradually
increasing to normal sized meals over a period of time equal to about
1/3rd the length of the fast.

I have a theory. Fresh fruit has enzymes (which are destroyed by
cooking). I think that the body converts theses enzymes into digestive
enzymes much easier than it can make them from scratch. This lower cost
of digestion works out to higher nutrition. Nobody ever talks about
comparing what the body must give up to process different foods, because
it contradicts profits for big corporations.

I've done several water fasts, the longest water fast I did was 12 days
(consuming only distilled water). I discovered that eating freshly made
juice after a fast and you'll feel great, but eating cooked food,
especially overcooked food too soon after a fast will make you real
sick. It takes a few days to break the fast.

I also discovered that I could handle considerably more whiskey at night
if I was consuming a considerable amount of freshly made fruit smoothies
during the day :o/ LOL but it was still destroying my brain.

I remember a long time ago, long before I started drinking, someone
telling me they had done so much damage to their liver that they
couldn't eat normal food anymore, and the doctor had put them on baby
food. Sounds like politically correct bullshit. He was saying he just
couldn't live like that.

Watermelon is practically predigested food imho. When I drank a big,
tall glass of fresh made watermelon juice, I can feel the effect in
seconds throughout my body, which tells me that's how long it takes to
digest it, which means it's practically there already. Studies have
shown that fresh made juice takes the body seconds to digest, I think it
is true. Hard to digest foods are meat and milk, which is why a big meal
of that makes you want to take a nap.

Fresh made juice helped my liver rebound. Got to be freshly made so it
has those enzymes, bottled, canned or powdered juice won't do it.
There's a lot of info in the "lemonade diet" which goes back about 100
years. You don't want to do the "Master Cleanser" to recover from yellow
bile; I tried Master Cleaner to break a water fast, made me real sick;
Freshly made real lemon juice only please. At least that's what works
for me. Course i'm not a doctor, this is just my experience.

try_yetagain2@yahoo.co.nz
05-18-2006, 05:12 AM
thankyou for your advise...is so true...have been hospitilized 4 times
for dt's but have had over 20 medical detoxs, and more like over triple
that amount of self medical and self administered detoxs...and know
food is last thing you can take...unless heavily valiumed...have smelt
not the smell you are talking about...but is on face...and is in last
stages of alcohlism...and smells foul...and can't be washed off
properly...which i think is the smell of liver faliour...but haven't
been getting that smell...and last year noticed on after consuming over
30 standard drinks that breath alcohol went up from 24 hours later
fromm 300 mics to over 1000 mics with out drinking...and same thing
happened after making bad meths brew...was on 400 mics...and only had 2
drinks and went up to over 1000 mics for over 12 hours?

lestat432003@yahoo.com
05-19-2006, 12:35 AM
I never knew alcohol could stay in your system that long. Isn't the
normal standard one hour per drink?

Darren
05-20-2006, 03:58 PM
<try_yetagain2@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
news:1147921217.428898.53510@y43g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> hi...usually drink vodka...but have noticed alcohol is staying in
> system for long periods, am measuring my drinks and bought a hydometer
> to check percentage other day, and used to have a breatherlizer, but
> noticed with breatherlizer alcohol was staying in system for 24 hours
> or more when was only consuming 12 - 15 standard drinks...what is
> happening...if was liver faliure should have symptoms, but apart from
> being tired sometimes, have none
>

Sounds like you've reached saturation.

-
Darren

Joe Jared
05-25-2006, 01:05 AM
On Wed, 17 May 2006 20:00:17 -0700, try_yetagain2 wrote:

> or more when was only consuming 12 - 15 standard drinks...what is
> happening...if was liver faliure should have symptoms, but apart from
> being tired sometimes, have none

That is a symptom. Have you been to a doctor lately? Are your
fingernails yellow?

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Darren
05-25-2006, 10:58 AM
"Joe Jared" <joejared@osirusoft.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.05.25.06.05.11.682056@osirusoft.com. ..
> On Wed, 17 May 2006 20:00:17 -0700, try_yetagain2 wrote:
>
>> or more when was only consuming 12 - 15 standard drinks...what is
>> happening...if was liver faliure should have symptoms, but apart from
>> being tired sometimes, have none
>
> That is a symptom. Have you been to a doctor lately? Are your
> fingernails yellow?
>

Mine weren't yellow when I had sclerosis.

-
Darren
> --
> Listed? You must be joking http://relays.osirusoft.com
> Pallorium V. Jared ruling http://www.oretek.com/lawsuite/ruling.pdf
> http://www.oretek.com/lawsuite/
>
>

Darren
05-25-2006, 10:59 AM
<try_yetagain2@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
news:1147921217.428898.53510@y43g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> hi...usually drink vodka...but have noticed alcohol is staying in
> system for long periods, am measuring my drinks and bought a hydometer
> to check percentage other day, and used to have a breatherlizer, but
> noticed with breatherlizer alcohol was staying in system for 24 hours
> or more when was only consuming 12 - 15 standard drinks...what is
> happening...if was liver faliure should have symptoms, but apart from
> being tired sometimes, have none
>

Do you vomit fluid a lot? Is your skin itchy? Do you get confised easily? Do
you hallucinate?

-
Daz