Tools for anger and resentment

[Just not me]

What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?

[nutso_fast@yahoo.com]

Just not me wrote:
> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?

Rocks, bats, knives, chains, automobiles, name-calling, gossip,
character assasination, fisticuffs, passive aggression, sarcasm, time,
patience, humor, tenacity, willingness, love, reason, wisdom, humor,
hobbies and other distractions, exercise, voodo magic, understanding,
empathy, compassion, prayer, meditation, medication... to name a few.

[Just not me]

nutso_fast@yahoo.com wrote:
> Just not me wrote:
>> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
>
> Rocks, bats, knives, chains, automobiles, name-calling, gossip,
> character assasination, fisticuffs, passive aggression, sarcasm, time,
> patience, humor, tenacity, willingness, love, reason, wisdom, humor,
> hobbies and other distractions, exercise, voodo magic, understanding,
> empathy, compassion, prayer, meditation, medication... to name a few.
>

I will take meditation and bats please.

[nutso_fast@yahoo.com]

Just not me wrote:
> nutso_fast@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Just not me wrote:
> >> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
> >
> > Rocks, bats, knives, chains, automobiles, name-calling, gossip,
> > character assasination, fisticuffs, passive aggression, sarcasm, time,
> > patience, humor, tenacity, willingness, love, reason, wisdom, humor,
> > hobbies and other distractions, exercise, voodo magic, understanding,
> > empathy, compassion, prayer, meditation, medication... to name a few.
> >
>
> I will take meditation and bats please.

I've been known to make phonecalls at 2am and then
hang up...

And I also do a very effective pout too! :)

[Just not me]

nutso_fast@yahoo.com wrote:
> Just not me wrote:
>> nutso_fast@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Just not me wrote:
>>>> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
>>> Rocks, bats, knives, chains, automobiles, name-calling, gossip,
>>> character assasination, fisticuffs, passive aggression, sarcasm, time,
>>> patience, humor, tenacity, willingness, love, reason, wisdom, humor,
>>> hobbies and other distractions, exercise, voodo magic, understanding,
>>> empathy, compassion, prayer, meditation, medication... to name a few.
>>>
>> I will take meditation and bats please.
>
> I've been known to make phonecalls at 2am and then
> hang up...
>
> And I also do a very effective pout too! :)
>

Try pouting out of a car window going 90 mph. You'll slap yourself
silly and get spit in your ear.

[Darren]

"Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
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> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?

A punchbag.

-
Darren

[stuart]

"Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
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> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?

Try steps 4 and 5

[Just not me]

stuart wrote:
> "Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
> news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
>
> Try steps 4 and 5
>
>

Yeah, there's that too. I've been making amends out of sequence, but
I'll do that anyway.

Isn't there some 4th step workbook that sort of holds your hand through
all this?

I'm to do some brainstorming diagrams/journaling on how to start dealing
with the various issues in my life. One of those is an internet
addiction.

[stuart]

"Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
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> stuart wrote:
>> "Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
>> news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
>>
>> Try steps 4 and 5
>
> Yeah, there's that too. I've been making amends out of sequence, but I'll
> do that anyway.
>
> Isn't there some 4th step workbook that sort of holds your hand through
> all this?
>
> I'm to do some brainstorming diagrams/journaling on how to start dealing
> with the various issues in my life. One of those is an internet
> addiction.

The instructions for step 4 are in the bb. they're just too simple to get
for most of us. I recommend reading step 4 in the 12and12 first. Then get a
piece of paper and pen and make a list of all those you folks you resent in
one coluomn, the cause in another, and what it affects in another. In the
fourth coloumn, make a note of what you did to get the resentment ball
rollling. Chances are if you have few resentments as most of us, the entire
list is goona look pretty stupid. And you know how we alkies hate to look
stupid.

While you're at it why not take the 8 hours and listen to the Joe and
Charlie talk. Helped me a lot and saved my program

Stuart

[nutso_fast@yahoo.com]

Just not me wrote:
> stuart wrote:
> > "Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
> > news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> >> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
> >
> > Try steps 4 and 5
> >
> >
>
> Yeah, there's that too. I've been making amends out of sequence, but
> I'll do that anyway.
>
> Isn't there some 4th step workbook that sort of holds your hand through
> all this?

Typically people who chose to take this path avail
themselves of a sponsor first.... It's not something many
AAer's would suggest that you do alone.

>
> I'm to do some brainstorming diagrams/journaling on how to start dealing
> with the various issues in my life. One of those is an internet
> addiction.

[Just not me]

stuart wrote:
> "Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
> news:442c66c5$0$96017$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>
>>stuart wrote:
>>
>>>"Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
>>>news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>>
>>>>What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
>>>
>>>Try steps 4 and 5
>>
>>Yeah, there's that too. I've been making amends out of sequence, but I'll
>>do that anyway.
>>
>>Isn't there some 4th step workbook that sort of holds your hand through
>>all this?
>>
>>I'm to do some brainstorming diagrams/journaling on how to start dealing
>>with the various issues in my life. One of those is an internet
>>addiction.
>
>
> The instructions for step 4 are in the bb. they're just too simple to get
> for most of us. I recommend reading step 4 in the 12and12 first. Then get a
> piece of paper and pen and make a list of all those you folks you resent in
> one coluomn, the cause in another, and what it affects in another. In the
> fourth coloumn, make a note of what you did to get the resentment ball
> rollling. Chances are if you have few resentments as most of us, the entire
> list is goona look pretty stupid. And you know how we alkies hate to look
> stupid.
>
> While you're at it why not take the 8 hours and listen to the Joe and
> Charlie talk. Helped me a lot and saved my program
>
> Stuart
>
>

I picked up a 12x12 at Half Price Books. There's a joke in here about
never discounting the power of AA.

[Just not me]

nutso_fast@yahoo.com wrote:
> Just not me wrote:
>
>>stuart wrote:
>>
>>>"Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
>>>news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>>
>>>>What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
>>>
>>>Try steps 4 and 5
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Yeah, there's that too. I've been making amends out of sequence, but
>>I'll do that anyway.
>>
>>Isn't there some 4th step workbook that sort of holds your hand through
>>all this?
>
>
> Typically people who chose to take this path avail
> themselves of a sponsor first.... It's not something many
> AAer's would suggest that you do alone.

Thanks nutso (do I know you well enough now to just use your first
name?), but I don't intend to get a sponsor. I'll find someone I trust
for the 5th step. I've gone through the steps at least twice before,
maybe three times, but, it has been a while too.

I had a couple of sponsors and never really related to it. I had
another fella who fancied himself my sponsor, but I kept catching him
eyeing my crotch.

I had a couple of sponsees at one time, and never really related to that
either. But I didn't mind talking to people when they needed, and
lending support.

I am 21 years sober. I'm not invulnerable now, but I have a lot more
insight to myself these days than when I was in early sobriety. And I'm
fairly honest with myself, and I know full well I've had a big hand in
causing problematic situations in my life.

I fully intend to take what I need and leave the rest, but I appreciate
your desire to see me succeed.

[Just not me]

Darren wrote:
> "Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
> news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>
>>What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
>
>
> A punchbag.

long as its not your wife.

[stuart]

Just not me <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
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> nutso_fast@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Just not me wrote:
> >
> >>stuart wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> >>>
> >>>>What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
> >>>
> >>>Try steps 4 and 5
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>Yeah, there's that too. I've been making amends out of sequence, but
> >>I'll do that anyway.
> >>
> >>Isn't there some 4th step workbook that sort of holds your hand through
> >>all this?
> >
> >
> > Typically people who chose to take this path avail
> > themselves of a sponsor first.... It's not something many
> > AAer's would suggest that you do alone.
>
> Thanks nutso (do I know you well enough now to just use your first
> name?), but I don't intend to get a sponsor. I'll find someone I trust
> for the 5th step. I've gone through the steps at least twice before,
> maybe three times, but, it has been a while too.
>
> I had a couple of sponsors and never really related to it. I had
> another fella who fancied himself my sponsor, but I kept catching him
> eyeing my crotch.
>
> I had a couple of sponsees at one time, and never really related to that
> either. But I didn't mind talking to people when they needed, and
> lending support.
>
> I am 21 years sober. I'm not invulnerable now, but I have a lot more
> insight to myself these days than when I was in early sobriety. And I'm
> fairly honest with myself, and I know full well I've had a big hand in
> causing problematic situations in my life.
>
> I fully intend to take what I need and leave the rest, but I appreciate
> your desire to see me succeed.

Get the "Joe and Charlie" tapes. They have them on the internet. Type in
"Joe and Charlie" and you'll find theri series in the form of media files.
Tells you exactly how to do a step 4, and what to expect in the way of
miraculous results if you do it correctly. They're a real eye-opener. Highly
highly recommended....

[Just not me]

stuart wrote:
> Just not me <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
> news:442c9d0b$0$58062$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>
>>nutso_fast@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>Just not me wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>stuart wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
>>>>>
>>>>>Try steps 4 and 5
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, there's that too. I've been making amends out of sequence, but
>>>>I'll do that anyway.
>>>>
>>>>Isn't there some 4th step workbook that sort of holds your hand through
>>>>all this?
>>>
>>>
>>>Typically people who chose to take this path avail
>>>themselves of a sponsor first.... It's not something many
>>>AAer's would suggest that you do alone.
>>
>>Thanks nutso (do I know you well enough now to just use your first
>>name?), but I don't intend to get a sponsor. I'll find someone I trust
>>for the 5th step. I've gone through the steps at least twice before,
>>maybe three times, but, it has been a while too.
>>
>>I had a couple of sponsors and never really related to it. I had
>>another fella who fancied himself my sponsor, but I kept catching him
>>eyeing my crotch.
>>
>>I had a couple of sponsees at one time, and never really related to that
>>either. But I didn't mind talking to people when they needed, and
>>lending support.
>>
>>I am 21 years sober. I'm not invulnerable now, but I have a lot more
>>insight to myself these days than when I was in early sobriety. And I'm
>>fairly honest with myself, and I know full well I've had a big hand in
>>causing problematic situations in my life.
>>
>>I fully intend to take what I need and leave the rest, but I appreciate
>>your desire to see me succeed.
>
>
> Get the "Joe and Charlie" tapes. They have them on the internet. Type in
> "Joe and Charlie" and you'll find theri series in the form of media files.
> Tells you exactly how to do a step 4, and what to expect in the way of
> miraculous results if you do it correctly. They're a real eye-opener. Highly
> highly recommended....
>
>
Yeah, I thought this was going to be easy, until I started thinking of
resentments against dead family members, and the specifics of other
resentments.

Thanks.

[Just not me]

> I am 21 years sober. I'm not invulnerable now, but I have a lot more
> insight to myself these days than when I was in early sobriety. And I'm
> fairly honest with myself, and I know full well I've had a big hand in
> causing problematic situations in my life.
>
> I fully intend to take what I need and leave the rest, but I appreciate
> your desire to see me succeed.

Why does the phrase "Famous last words" keep circulating in my head.

[Darren]

"Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
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> Darren wrote:
>> "Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
>> news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>
>>>What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
>>
>>
>> A punchbag.
>
> long as its not your wife.

Nay. She got fed up of picking me up years ago.

-
Darren

[Darren]

"stuart" <ggo@feds.org> wrote in message
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>
> "Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
> news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
>
> Try steps 4 and 5

Step 5 doesn't need doing in my case. My higher powers already know my
weaknesses and no person has any business knowing. :P

-
Darren

>

[stuart]

"Darren" <notreal@splash.com> wrote in message
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>
> "stuart" <ggo@feds.org> wrote in message
> news:VmZWf.10091$Ph4.4548@edtnps90...
>>
>> "Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
>> news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
>>
>> Try steps 4 and 5
>
> Step 5 doesn't need doing in my case. My higher powers already know my
> weaknesses and no person has any business knowing. :P
>
> -
> Darren

That exact point is dealt with in the 12 and 12... Why another human is
required in step 5. I had the same views at one time.

[Darren]

"stuart" <ggo@feds.org> wrote in message
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>
> "Darren" <notreal@splash.com> wrote in message
> news:d3aXf.260$0N6.178@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>> "stuart" <ggo@feds.org> wrote in message
>> news:VmZWf.10091$Ph4.4548@edtnps90...
>>>
>>> "Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
>>> news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>>> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
>>>
>>> Try steps 4 and 5
>>
>> Step 5 doesn't need doing in my case. My higher powers already know my
>> weaknesses and no person has any business knowing. :P
>>
>> -
>> Darren
>
> That exact point is dealt with in the 12 and 12... Why another human is
> required in step 5. I had the same views at one time.
So what does it say then?

-

Darren


>

[nutso_fast@yahoo.com]

Darren wrote:
> >>
> >> Step 5 doesn't need doing in my case. My higher powers already know my
> >> weaknesses and no person has any business knowing. :P
> >>
> >> -
> >> Darren
> >
> >
> > Stuart wrote:
> >
> > That exact point is dealt with in the 12 and 12... Why another human is
> > required in step 5. I had the same views at one time.
>
>
> So what does it say then?
>
It says: "For answers to this or any of life's other nagging
little riddles, send credit card info to: nutso_fast@yahoo.com.
and in just 5-6 weeks you too will own your own copy of AA's
world famous 12x12."

(Sorry no cash, checks or money orders, please.) . ;)

[nutso_fast@yahoo.com]

Darren wrote:
> >>
> >> Step 5 doesn't need doing in my case. My higher powers already know my
> >> weaknesses and no person has any business knowing. :P
> >>
> >> -
> >> Darren
> >
> >
> > Stuart wrote:
> >
> > That exact point is dealt with in the 12 and 12... Why another human is
> > required in step 5. I had the same views at one time.
>
>
> So what does it say then?
>
It says: "For answers to this or any of life's other nagging
little riddles, send credit card info to: nutso_fast@yahoo.com.
and in just 5-6 weeks you too will own your own copy of AA's
world famous 12x12."

(Sorry no cash, checks or money orders, please.) . ;)

[nutso_fast@yahoo.com]

Darren wrote:
> >>
> >> Step 5 doesn't need doing in my case. My higher powers already know my
> >> weaknesses and no person has any business knowing. :P
> >>
> >> -
> >> Darren
> >
> >
> > Stuart wrote:
> >
> > That exact point is dealt with in the 12 and 12... Why another human is
> > required in step 5. I had the same views at one time.
>
>
> So what does it say then?
>
It says: "For answers to this or any of life's other nagging
little riddles, send credit card info to: nutso_fast@yahoo.com.
and in just 5-6 weeks you too will own your own copy of AA's
world famous 12x12."

(Sorry no cash, checks or money orders, please.) . ;)

[nutso_fast@yahoo.com]

Jesus... now I've got TedW's posting hiccups!!!!
It must be divine retribution....

[stuart]

"Darren" <notreal@splash.com> wrote in message
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> "stuart" <ggo@feds.org> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Darren" <notreal@splash.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "stuart" <ggo@feds.org> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>>>> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
>>>>
>>>> Try steps 4 and 5
>>>
>>> Step 5 doesn't need doing in my case. My higher powers already know my
>>> weaknesses and no person has any business knowing. :P
>>>
>>> -
>>> Darren
>>
>> That exact point is dealt with in the 12 and 12... Why another human is
>> required in step 5. I had the same views at one time.
> So what does it say then?

Don't be lazy...


> Darren
>
>
>>
>
>

[Darren]

<nutso_fast@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Darren wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Step 5 doesn't need doing in my case. My higher powers already know my
>> >> weaknesses and no person has any business knowing. :P
>> >>
>> >> -
>> >> Darren
>> >
>> >
>> > Stuart wrote:
>> >
>> > That exact point is dealt with in the 12 and 12... Why another human is
>> > required in step 5. I had the same views at one time.
>>
>>
>> So what does it say then?
>>
> It says: "For answers to this or any of life's other nagging
> little riddles, send credit card info to: nutso_fast@yahoo.com.
> and in just 5-6 weeks you too will own your own copy of AA's
> world famous 12x12."

I'm dislexic. I don't read literature unless it's in a format i can put
through my reader and I don't see why i should pay for literature about a
condition I didn't ask for.

-
Darren

>
> (Sorry no cash, checks or money orders, please.) . ;)
>

[Darren]

"stuart" <ggo@feds.org> wrote in message
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> "Darren" <notreal@splash.com> wrote in message
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>> "stuart" <ggo@feds.org> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Darren" <notreal@splash.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "stuart" <ggo@feds.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:VmZWf.10091$Ph4.4548@edtnps90...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>>>>> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
>>>>>
>>>>> Try steps 4 and 5
>>>>
>>>> Step 5 doesn't need doing in my case. My higher powers already know my
>>>> weaknesses and no person has any business knowing. :P
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Darren
>>>
>>> That exact point is dealt with in the 12 and 12... Why another human is
>>> required in step 5. I had the same views at one time.
>> So what does it say then?
>
> Don't be lazy...
>
That's what it says? Well that doesn't cover it for me.

-
Darren.

>
>> Darren
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[nutso_fast@yahoo.com]

Darren wrote:

>
> I'm dislexic. I don't read literature unless it's in a format i can put
> through my reader and I don't see why i should pay for literature about a
> condition I didn't ask for.
>
>
>
I can definitely see why this topic caught your attention...
But who says I was actually going to send you the literature?
I was just hoping to get a credit-card number. <eg>

Peas Out


> >
> >
> >
> > (Sorry no cash, checks or money orders, please.) . ;)
> >

[Darren]

<nutso_fast@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Darren wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm dislexic. I don't read literature unless it's in a format i can put
>> through my reader and I don't see why i should pay for literature about a
>> condition I didn't ask for.
>>
>>
>>
> I can definitely see why this topic caught your attention...
> But who says I was actually going to send you the literature?
> I was just hoping to get a credit-card number. <eg>

There's no harm in trying. :)

>
> Peas Out
>
Chilled,

-
Darren
>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > (Sorry no cash, checks or money orders, please.) . ;)
>> >
>

[Robert McGregor]

"Darren" <notreal@splash.com> wrote in message
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> <nutso_fast@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Darren wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Step 5 doesn't need doing in my case. My higher powers already know
>>> >> my
>>> >> weaknesses and no person has any business knowing. :P
>>> >>
>>> >> -
>>> >> Darren
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Stuart wrote:
>>> >
>>> > That exact point is dealt with in the 12 and 12... Why another human
>>> > is
>>> > required in step 5. I had the same views at one time.
>>>
>>>
>>> So what does it say then?
>>>
>> It says: "For answers to this or any of life's other nagging
>> little riddles, send credit card info to: nutso_fast@yahoo.com.
>> and in just 5-6 weeks you too will own your own copy of AA's
>> world famous 12x12."
>
> I'm dislexic. I don't read literature unless it's in a format i can put
> through my reader and I don't see why i should pay for literature about a
> condition I didn't ask for.
>

Be interesting to see if you bother downloading the 12$12 in windows help
format from this link http://tinyurl.com/gqaww then putting it through your
reader; before AA's effective primary purpose is revealed and the site is
censored or shut down.

Bob:)
http://tinyurl.com/bzrna
http://tinyurl.com/c9mtd

[Darren]

"Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@knickers.yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:442da8cf$0$510$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au...
>
> "Darren" <notreal@splash.com> wrote in message
> news:A4fXf.2076$ic1.416@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>>
>> <nutso_fast@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1143830307.732368.113340@t31g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>>>
>>> Darren wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Step 5 doesn't need doing in my case. My higher powers already know
>>>> >> my
>>>> >> weaknesses and no person has any business knowing. :P
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -
>>>> >> Darren
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Stuart wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > That exact point is dealt with in the 12 and 12... Why another human
>>>> > is
>>>> > required in step 5. I had the same views at one time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So what does it say then?
>>>>
>>> It says: "For answers to this or any of life's other nagging
>>> little riddles, send credit card info to: nutso_fast@yahoo.com.
>>> and in just 5-6 weeks you too will own your own copy of AA's
>>> world famous 12x12."
>>
>> I'm dislexic. I don't read literature unless it's in a format i can put
>> through my reader and I don't see why i should pay for literature about a
>> condition I didn't ask for.
>>
>
> Be interesting to see if you bother downloading the 12$12 in windows help
> format from this link http://tinyurl.com/gqaww then putting it through
> your reader; before AA's effective primary purpose is revealed and the
> site is censored or shut down.
>
> Bob:)
:)
I wonder why he couldn't have copied the pasage and pasted it with citations
of course rather than tell me to buy the book. Cheers for your help Bob.
Sadly the take on step 5 didn't help much. There is still no way on this
earth or the next I'm letting anyone in on my deepest secrets..

-
Darren
> http://tinyurl.com/bzrna
> http://tinyurl.com/c9mtd
>
>
>

[Just not me]

> :)
> I wonder why he couldn't have copied the pasage and pasted it with citations
> of course rather than tell me to buy the book. Cheers for your help Bob.
> Sadly the take on step 5 didn't help much. There is still no way on this
> earth or the next I'm letting anyone in on my deepest secrets..

Probably because he would have had to type it in, not cut and paste,
and/or didn't have the material directly in front of him. And, you were
seemingly being a little sarcastic (I'm guilty of that too), so there
was less desire to go to great lengths. But I'm only guessing.

[Darren]

"Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
news:442db122$0$96016$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>
>> :)
>> I wonder why he couldn't have copied the pasage and pasted it with
>> citations of course rather than tell me to buy the book. Cheers for your
>> help Bob. Sadly the take on step 5 didn't help much. There is still no
>> way on this earth or the next I'm letting anyone in on my deepest
>> secrets..
>
> Probably because he would have had to type it in, not cut and paste,
> and/or didn't have the material directly in front of him. And, you were
> seemingly being a little sarcastic (I'm guilty of that too), so there was
> less desire to go to great lengths. But I'm only guessing.

There was no sarcasm there but I'm so used to being sarcastic that even when
I'm not being sarcastic I come across as sarcastic. I'm not being sarcastic
now either. I just thought I'd add that because i wanted to see how many
times i could squeeze the word, 'sarcastic' into a single post.

-
Darren

[Just not me]

> There was no sarcasm there but I'm so used to being sarcastic that even when
> I'm not being sarcastic I come across as sarcastic. I'm not being sarcastic
> now either. I just thought I'd add that because i wanted to see how many
> times i could squeeze the word, 'sarcastic' into a single post.

That's only 5. Hardly worth starting.

[nutso_fast@yahoo.com]

Just not me wrote:
> >>
> >>Isn't there some 4th step workbook that sort of holds your hand through
> >>all this?
> >
> >
> > Typically people who chose to take this path avail
> > themselves of a sponsor first.... It's not something many
> > AAer's would suggest that you do alone.
>
> Thanks nutso (do I know you well enough now to just use your first
> name?), but I don't intend to get a sponsor. I'll find someone I trust
> for the 5th step. I've gone through the steps at least twice before,
> maybe three times, but, it has been a while too.
>
> I had a couple of sponsors and never really related to it. I had
> another fella who fancied himself my sponsor, but I kept catching him
> eyeing my crotch.
>
> I had a couple of sponsees at one time, and never really related to that
> either. But I didn't mind talking to people when they needed, and
> lending support.
>
> I am 21 years sober. I'm not invulnerable now, but I have a lot more
> insight to myself these days than when I was in early sobriety. And I'm
> fairly honest with myself, and I know full well I've had a big hand in
> causing problematic situations in my life.
>
> I fully intend to take what I need and leave the rest, but I appreciate
> your desire to see me succeed.

Sure thing Just (may I call you Just?). The only reason I mentioned
it was because you seemed to be leaning in 'that' direction - otherwise
I wouldn't have even brought it up. ;)

[Griffin McKorn]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:53:51 GMT, "Darren" <notreal@splash.com> wrote:

>
>"Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
>news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?

When in rehab we had a workshop regarding "resentments"

Here's what the work-sheet offered.

"The moment you start to resent a person you become their slave...
He controls your dreams, absorbs your digestion, robs you of your
peace of mind and good will, and takes away your pleasure to work...
He ruins your religion and nullifies your prayers...
You cannot take a vacation without his going along.
He destroys your freedom of mind and hounds you wherever you go.

There is no way to escape the person you reresent...
He is with you when you're awake. He invades your your privacy when
you sleep...
He is close beside you when you eat, when you drive your car and when
you're on the job.
You can never have efficiency or happiness. He influnences even the
tone of your voice.
He requires you to take medication for indigestion, headaches and
loss or energy.
He even steals your last moment consciousness before you go to sleep.

So... if you want to be a slave...

Harbor your Resentments!!!!!!"

[Just not me]

Griffin McKorn wrote:
>
> When in rehab we had a workshop regarding "resentments"

> So... if you want to be a slave...
>
> Harbor your Resentments!!!!!!"
>

I resent you telling me this.

[Tim]

Twenty years ago I did a tumultrous 5th step with my extremely religious
and overly judgemental older brother, who was the source of the majority
of my resentments. Our relationship has been greatly improved ever
since.

Peace,
Tim

[stuart]

Tim <TimFromAnaheim@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:8560-442E9C42-137@storefull-3116.bay.webtv.net...
> Twenty years ago I did a tumultrous 5th step with my extremely religious
> and overly judgemental older brother, who was the source of the majority
> of my resentments. Our relationship has been greatly improved ever
> since.
>
> Peace,
> Tim

Sounds interesting. Does doing a fifth step work with someone whose views
and actions you have a somewhat negative opinion of, and whom you previously
resented? Sure it wasn't a 9th step?

[Griffin McKorn]

On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:36:14 -0800, Just not me <nope@notme.com>
wrote:

>Griffin McKorn wrote:
>>
>> When in rehab we had a workshop regarding "resentments"
>
>> So... if you want to be a slave...
>>
>> Harbor your Resentments!!!!!!"
>>
>
>I resent you telling me this.

LOL

Take Care.

[John Meyer]

Just not me wrote:
> What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?


You see, I have a nice city in my head where I'm basing my fantasy
stories. So, if I tell those people off then still feel angry, I throw
them down there and have them stoned, hung, disembowled, wheeled, drawn
and quartered, and anything else I can think of.

[OceanView]

"stuart" <fred@nospam.com> wrote in news:Tb2Xf.14251$B_1.4318@edtnps89:

>
> Just not me <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
> news:442c9d0b$0$58062$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> nutso_fast@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > Just not me wrote:
>> >
>> >>stuart wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>"Just not me" <nope@notme.com> wrote in message
>> >>>news:442c1d65$0$96010$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> >>>
>> >>>>What tools do you folks use to deal with anger and resentments?
>> >>>
>> >>>Try steps 4 and 5
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>Yeah, there's that too. I've been making amends out of sequence, but
>> >>I'll do that anyway.
>> >>
>> >>Isn't there some 4th step workbook that sort of holds your hand
>> >>through all this?
>> >
>> >
>> > Typically people who chose to take this path avail
>> > themselves of a sponsor first.... It's not something many
>> > AAer's would suggest that you do alone.
>>
>> Thanks nutso (do I know you well enough now to just use your first
>> name?), but I don't intend to get a sponsor. I'll find someone I trust
>> for the 5th step. I've gone through the steps at least twice before,
>> maybe three times, but, it has been a while too.
>>
>> I had a couple of sponsors and never really related to it. I had
>> another fella who fancied himself my sponsor, but I kept catching him
>> eyeing my crotch.
>>
>> I had a couple of sponsees at one time, and never really related to
>> that either. But I didn't mind talking to people when they needed, and
>> lending support.
>>
>> I am 21 years sober. I'm not invulnerable now, but I have a lot more
>> insight to myself these days than when I was in early sobriety. And
>> I'm fairly honest with myself, and I know full well I've had a big hand
>> in causing problematic situations in my life.
>>
>> I fully intend to take what I need and leave the rest, but I appreciate
>> your desire to see me succeed.
>
> Get the "Joe and Charlie" tapes. They have them on the internet. Type in
> "Joe and Charlie" and you'll find theri series in the form of media
> files. Tells you exactly how to do a step 4, and what to expect in the
> way of miraculous results if you do it correctly. They're a real
> eye-opener. Highly highly recommended....
>
>

Just a question: Is that Joe McQ?