Other groups besides A.A.

I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The program has
some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of ways.

I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and nasty people
who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue. There is a
whole lot of denial in A.A..

Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have meetings? I'm
in Central,New Jersey.


Thanks,

Sy

--
Please post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com

[Blue Moon]

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:48:24 GMT, <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The program has
>some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of ways.
>
>I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and nasty people
>who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue. There is a
>whole lot of denial in A.A..
>
>Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have meetings? I'm
>in Central,New Jersey.

Not aware of any real choice other than meetings in another town. I'm
also in NJ, and it surprises me how different the faces all are just
by driving a few miles.

Of course, you might get the same message of ignorance elsewhere. But
you might not. Where I am (north NJ) there's a big treatment centre
nearby, so the AA rooms seem to have been dealt a heavy influence from
the teachings there. Some of which is, I'm afraid, nonsense.

Not sure quite where you are, but I might personally be tempted to
check out one of the AgnosticAA meetings around the New York area.
Can also be helpful for me sometimes to quit just listening and start
doing.

--
Blue Moon

[Craig S.]

<sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:200820031449161110%sytech@yahoo.com...
>
>
> I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The program has
> some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of ways.
>
> I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and nasty people
> who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue. There is a
> whole lot of denial in A.A..
>
> Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have meetings? I'm
> in Central,New Jersey.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sy

MODERATION MANAGEMENT

New Jersey:

ASBURY PARK

Saturdays, 10:30 to 11:30 A.M.
Trinity Episcopal Church
503 Asbury Avenue (corner of Grand Ave)
The first meeting will be on July 12th
asbury@moderation.org
or call 212-871-0974
The meeting is in the building next to the
church, at the back of the parking lot. If the
double-glass doors are locked, ring the bell. If
not, go in and turn left.


MORRISTOWN

Tuesdays 7:30 p.m.
St. Mark Lutheran Church, 100 Harter Road
Right at exit 33 (Harter Road exit) of route 287, just east of the highway.
Primary Facilitator: Rudy
rhoeltzel@aol.com
973-984-2976
Meetings will not take place July 15-Sept 2, 2003, but will resume every
Tuesday starting Sept 9, 2003

[rosie readandpost]

why not call you local central office and ask for different meetings around you?

i KNOW what you mean when you refer to "very rigid, mean-spirited and emotionally "dead"............................i
RUN as fast as i can away from those folks!
good luck to you!

--
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rosie

new virus:
Sobig.F
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sobig.f@mm.html



<sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:200820031728402005%sytech@yahoo.com...
> [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see
> the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]
>
> In article <86082891f09ed14a3f77c13bd43bf91e@news.teranews.com >, Blue
> Moon <mfoco_uk@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> I did check out Agnostic A.A. but none in N.J..
>
> Actually, I don't have that much of an issue with the "higher power".
> Just a recent realization that lots of A.A.'s are very rigid,
> mean-spirited and emotionally "dead". It took me 3 years to come to
> that conclusion but unfortunately, that's what I'm seeing lately.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:48:24 GMT, <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The program has
> > >some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of ways.
> > >
> > >I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and nasty people
> > >who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue. There is a
> > >whole lot of denial in A.A..
> > >
> > >Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have meetings? I'm
> > >in Central,New Jersey.
> >
> > Not aware of any real choice other than meetings in another town. I'm
> > also in NJ, and it surprises me how different the faces all are just
> > by driving a few miles.
> >
> > Of course, you might get the same message of ignorance elsewhere. But
> > you might not. Where I am (north NJ) there's a big treatment centre
> > nearby, so the AA rooms seem to have been dealt a heavy influence from
> > the teachings there. Some of which is, I'm afraid, nonsense.
> >
> > Not sure quite where you are, but I might personally be tempted to
> > check out one of the AgnosticAA meetings around the New York area.
> > Can also be helpful for me sometimes to quit just listening and start
> > doing.
>
> --
> Please post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com

[Craig S.]

<sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:200820031728402005%sytech@yahoo.com...
> [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see
> the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]
>
> In article <86082891f09ed14a3f77c13bd43bf91e@news.teranews.com >, Blue
> Moon <mfoco_uk@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> I did check out Agnostic A.A. but none in N.J..
>
> Actually, I don't have that much of an issue with the "higher power".
> Just a recent realization that lots of A.A.'s are very rigid,
> mean-spirited and emotionally "dead". It took me 3 years to come to
> that conclusion but unfortunately, that's what I'm seeing lately.

Doesn't sound like you've been hitting your knees enough lately. He sees
you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake.

[Joe]

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:48:24 GMT, <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
>I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The program has
>some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of ways.
>
>I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and nasty people
>who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue. There is a
>whole lot of denial in A.A..
>
>Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have meetings? I'm
>in Central,New Jersey.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sy


Smartrecovery.org has meeting listed by state. There are quite a few
in NJ, but they may not all be good anymore. Check it out! Cya

Joe Milon

[stuart]

<sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:200820031728402005%sytech@yahoo.com...
> [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see
> the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]
>
> In article <86082891f09ed14a3f77c13bd43bf91e@news.teranews.com >, Blue
> Moon <mfoco_uk@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> I did check out Agnostic A.A. but none in N.J..
>
> Actually, I don't have that much of an issue with the "higher power".
> Just a recent realization that lots of A.A.'s are very rigid,
> mean-spirited and emotionally "dead". It took me 3 years to come to
> that conclusion but unfortunately, that's what I'm seeing lately.

You'll get over them, once the steps begin to work for you. After all, why
are you there? For you, or for them? Or both?
Maybe staying on, and being better than them will eventually rub off on
them, then, once they're better, you can move on and start your own recovery
program.
Just a thought.





>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:48:24 GMT, <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The program has
> > >some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of ways.
> > >
> > >I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and nasty people
> > >who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue. There is a
> > >whole lot of denial in A.A..
> > >
> > >Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have meetings? I'm
> > >in Central,New Jersey.
> >
> > Not aware of any real choice other than meetings in another town. I'm
> > also in NJ, and it surprises me how different the faces all are just
> > by driving a few miles.
> >
> > Of course, you might get the same message of ignorance elsewhere. But
> > you might not. Where I am (north NJ) there's a big treatment centre
> > nearby, so the AA rooms seem to have been dealt a heavy influence from
> > the teachings there. Some of which is, I'm afraid, nonsense.
> >
> > Not sure quite where you are, but I might personally be tempted to
> > check out one of the AgnosticAA meetings around the New York area.
> > Can also be helpful for me sometimes to quit just listening and start
> > doing.
>
> --
> Please post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com

[Moonraker]

"rosie readandpost" <readandpostREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yM41b.1627$3q.51999@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
>
> > Doesn't sound like you've been hitting your knees enough lately. He
sees
> > you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake.
> >
> >
>
> ROTFLMAO!
>
>
Could you PLEASE explain just what the fuck you thought was so funny?

[Moonraker]

"rosie readandpost" <readandpostREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4%41b.1712$3q.53833@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > Could you PLEASE explain just what the fuck you thought was so funny?
> >
>
>
>
> >>> He sees
> > > > you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake.
>
> chill hon!
>
>
>

NO. Answer the question.

[rosie readandpost]

"Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:CV41b.5100$634.3696@fe02.atl2.webusenet.com.. .

>
> NO. Answer the question.




sweetie,
a joke loses something when you have to explain it, but for you? anything!

rosie




Santa Clause Is Coming To Town

(Chorus:)
You better watch out
You better not cry
You better not pout,
I'm telling you why;
Santa Clause is coming to town.

He's making a list
Checking it twice
He's gonna find out
Who's naughty and nice
Santa Claus is coming to town.

He see's you when your sleeping
He knows when your awake.
He knows if you've been good or bad
So be good for goodness sake!

(chorus)
With little tin horns
and little toy drums,
rooty - toot - toot and rummy - tum - tums,
Santa Claus is coming to town!

Curly head dolls that toddle and coo;
elephants, boats and kiddie cars too,
Santa Clause is coming to town






>
>
>

[rosie readandpost]

> And related it into a kid's Christmas song?
>
> Your spiritual bankruptcy is SO apparent.
>
>
>

ya think?
ROTFLMAO!

[Gail]

rosie readandpost wrote:
> "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:CV41b.5100$634.3696@fe02.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
>
>>
>> NO. Answer the question.
>
>
>
>
> sweetie,
> a joke loses something when you have to explain it, but for you?
> anything!
>
> rosie
>
>
>
>
> Santa Clause Is Coming To Town
>
> (Chorus:)
> You better watch out
> You better not cry
> You better not pout,
> I'm telling you why;
> Santa Clause is coming to town.
>
> He's making a list
> Checking it twice
> He's gonna find out
> Who's naughty and nice
> Santa Claus is coming to town.
>
> He see's you when your sleeping
> He knows when your awake.
> He knows if you've been good or bad
> So be good for goodness sake!
>
> (chorus)
> With little tin horns
> and little toy drums,
> rooty - toot - toot and rummy - tum - tums,
> Santa Claus is coming to town!
>
> Curly head dolls that toddle and coo;
> elephants, boats and kiddie cars too,
> Santa Clause is coming to town


126 Shopping days left before Christmas.
Rosie, a little early for Christmas songs isn't it? LOL
Oh shit, now I will be singing that song all day!
Thanks,
Gail

[Ken Bessler]

"rosie readandpost" <readandpostREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Uv51b.1894$3q.56169@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
>
> > And related it into a kid's Christmas song?
> >
> > Your spiritual bankruptcy is SO apparent.
> >
> >
> >
>
> ya think?
> ROTFLMAO!
>
>

Sounds like Moonraker could use a Librium pill or 2 or 10......

Ken

[Moonraker]

"rosie readandpost" <readandpostREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Em51b.1843$3q.55372@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> sweetie,
> a joke loses something when you have to explain it, but for you? anything!
>
> rosie
>
(stupidity snipped)

I see. so you took this quote:

"Doesn't sound like you've been hitting your knees enough lately. He sees
you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake."

And related it into a kid's Christmas song?

Your spiritual bankruptcy is SO apparent.

[Ken Bessler]

"rosie readandpost" <readandpostREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:s761b.2084$3q.59178@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> >
> > Sounds like Moonraker could use a Librium pill or 2 or 10......
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
>
> :)
>
> ( i better not LOL to loudly, it seems that mooney is in another one of
his moods!)
>
>


{whispering}
L.....O......L.......

Oh, what the hell - after NOT drinking almost 260 beers..........

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

Ken

Alcohol:
2w 3d 12:39 beer-free, 6 Libriums taken,
259 beers not consumed, $157.73 saved,
21:35 life saved

Cigarettes:
6 years, 10 months, 3 weeks, 18 hours, 24 mins & 18 secs.
62894 cigarettes not smoked, saving $7,861.77.
Life saved: 31 weeks, 1 day, 9 hours, 10 minutes.

[debs]

I've just had to put some music on to forget that song as well

debs

--
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human history, with the possible exception of handguns and tequila.
"Gail" <serenity6850_2000@nospamoyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vk9pbj6sh05u69@corp.supernews.com...
> rosie readandpost wrote:
> > "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:CV41b.5100$634.3696@fe02.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
> >
> >>
> >> NO. Answer the question.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > sweetie,
> > a joke loses something when you have to explain it, but for you?
> > anything!
> >
> > rosie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Santa Clause Is Coming To Town
> >
> > (Chorus:)
> > You better watch out
> > You better not cry
> > You better not pout,
> > I'm telling you why;
> > Santa Clause is coming to town.
> >
> > He's making a list
> > Checking it twice
> > He's gonna find out
> > Who's naughty and nice
> > Santa Claus is coming to town.
> >
> > He see's you when your sleeping
> > He knows when your awake.
> > He knows if you've been good or bad
> > So be good for goodness sake!
> >
> > (chorus)
> > With little tin horns
> > and little toy drums,
> > rooty - toot - toot and rummy - tum - tums,
> > Santa Claus is coming to town!
> >
> > Curly head dolls that toddle and coo;
> > elephants, boats and kiddie cars too,
> > Santa Clause is coming to town
>
>
> 126 Shopping days left before Christmas.
> Rosie, a little early for Christmas songs isn't it? LOL
> Oh shit, now I will be singing that song all day!
> Thanks,
> Gail
>
>

[azure]

"Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Qj51b.5250$634.805@fe02.atl2.webusenet.com...
>
> Your spiritual bankruptcy is SO apparent.

oh-oh. sounds like somebody is Hungry, Angry, Lonely, or Tired.

azure

[Ken]

azure wrote:
> "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:Qj51b.5250$634.805@fe02.atl2.webusenet.com...
>
>>Your spiritual bankruptcy is SO apparent.
>
>
> oh-oh. sounds like somebody is Hungry, Angry, Lonely, or Tired.
>
> azure
>
>

Azure,

Or at least irritating and tiresome. <G>

Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com

[Bingo]

"Craig S." <cspurlock@charter.net> wrote in
news:vk8l4sm7boc248@corp.supernews.com:

> <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:200820031728402005%sytech@yahoo.com...
>> [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see
>> the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]
>>
>> In article
>> <86082891f09ed14a3f77c13bd43bf91e@news.teranews.com >, Blue Moon
>> <mfoco_uk@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>
>> I did check out Agnostic A.A. but none in N.J..
>>
>> Actually, I don't have that much of an issue with the "higher
>> power". Just a recent realization that lots of A.A.'s are very
>> rigid, mean-spirited and emotionally "dead". It took me 3
>> years to come to that conclusion but unfortunately, that's what
>> I'm seeing lately.
>
> Doesn't sound like you've been hitting your knees enough lately.
> He sees you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake.
>
>

Got a photograph?

[Benjamin Cicelske]

what does ROTFLMAO mean?

"rosie readandpost" <readandpostREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Uv51b.1894$3q.56169@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
>
> > And related it into a kid's Christmas song?
> >
> > Your spiritual bankruptcy is SO apparent.
> >
> >
> >
>
> ya think?
> ROTFLMAO!
>
>

[Ron]

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:16:53 -0800,
Benjamin Cicelske <bleakstar@comcast.com> wrote:

> what does ROTFLMAO mean?

Rolling On The Floor Licking My Ass Out

--
AB5DB9CC

[Kirk S]

What?!!! Arg!!! I can't get the picture out of my head!

HELP!

Kirk S.

<Laughing my Ass Off>
"Ron" <can@the.spam> wrote in message
news:WZGRb.172369$na.283105@attbi_s04...
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:16:53 -0800,
> Benjamin Cicelske <bleakstar@comcast.com> wrote:
>
> > what does ROTFLMAO mean?
>
> Rolling On The Floor Licking My Ass Out
>
> --
> AB5DB9CC

"Kirk S" <kspradling@nospamkc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:GSORb.26$M81.9@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> What?!!! Arg!!! I can't get the picture out of my head!
>
> HELP!
>
> Kirk S.
>
rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off

[S H]

ROTFLMAO = Rolling on the Floor Laughing My Ass Off

[Christine]

>ROTFLMAO = Rolling on the Floor Laughing My Ass Off
>

Both stupid and annoying ...

Day 4 - can you tell I'm cranky?

"Christine" <ctbean3@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040129223230.11652.00000896@mb-m12.aol.com...
> >ROTFLMAO = Rolling on the Floor Laughing My Ass Off
> >
>
> Both stupid and annoying ...
>
> Day 4 - can you tell I'm cranky?


((((((((((((((((((((((christine))))))))))))))))))) ))

[David Bruce Jr]

There are ACOA meetings and Coda meetings

You could also join a yahoo mailing list, the best one I found is
on the topic of sexual addiction
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/astarttorecovery/


[the reason I like this one is that sex is ont something that one is
going to completely avoid, with a substance one can easily be
a 'dry drunk', stopping the substance is not the same thing as
recovering]

Hope that helps


--
David Bruce Jr
Baltimore Maryland
Subscribe to our free newsletter
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http://victimbehavior.com
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<sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:200820031449161110%sytech@yahoo.com...
>
>
> I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The program has
> some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of ways.
>
> I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and nasty people
> who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue. There is a
> whole lot of denial in A.A..
>
> Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have meetings? I'm
> in Central,New Jersey.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sy
>
> --
> Please post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com


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[Gregg Fowler]

There are other recovery groups for alcohol also. Websites available for
different groups are: For LSR or Lifering Secular Recovery -
http://www.unhooked.com ; Smart recovery- http://www.smartrecovery.org There
are others also, but both of these have meetings in some parts of the
country. LSR has an excellent email list that you can gain access to from
the website and smart has a message board. They both have online meetings
also. Personally I get what I can from various sources.

Gregg

"David Bruce Jr" <davidbrucejr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4vqdnesnZrFeRaTcRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> There are ACOA meetings and Coda meetings
>
> You could also join a yahoo mailing list, the best one I found is
> on the topic of sexual addiction
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/astarttorecovery/
>
>
> [the reason I like this one is that sex is ont something that one is
> going to completely avoid, with a substance one can easily be
> a 'dry drunk', stopping the substance is not the same thing as
> recovering]
>
> Hope that helps
>
>
> --
> David Bruce Jr
> Baltimore Maryland
> Subscribe to our free newsletter
> "Healthy Boundaries"
> http://victimbehavior.com
> Self Help tools for self destructive behavior
>
>
> <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:200820031449161110%sytech@yahoo.com...
> >
> >
> > I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The program has
> > some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of ways.
> >
> > I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and nasty people
> > who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue. There is a
> > whole lot of denial in A.A..
> >
> > Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have meetings? I'm
> > in Central,New Jersey.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Sy
> >
> > --
> > Please post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com
>
>
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[rosie]

thanks for reposting the links greg........................there ARE
other ways to sober up, and finding out what works for each of us is
very important.

--
"Misleading our nation into war in Iraq makes you unfit to lead this
nation."
.................................................. .................Jo
hn Kerry
http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/USfatalities.html









"Gregg Fowler" <totsobNOSPAM@NOSPAMnetzero.com> wrote in message
news:0sSdnVDt_YzAl6bcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
: There are other recovery groups for alcohol also. Websites
available for
: different groups are: For LSR or Lifering Secular Recovery -
: http://www.unhooked.com ; Smart recovery-
http://www.smartrecovery.org There
: are others also, but both of these have meetings in some parts of
the
: country. LSR has an excellent email list that you can gain access
to from
: the website and smart has a message board. They both have online
meetings
: also. Personally I get what I can from various sources.
:
: Gregg
:
: "David Bruce Jr" <davidbrucejr@comcast.net> wrote in message
: news:4vqdnesnZrFeRaTcRVn-hw@comcast.com...
: > There are ACOA meetings and Coda meetings
: >
: > You could also join a yahoo mailing list, the best one I found
is
: > on the topic of sexual addiction
: > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/astarttorecovery/
: >
: >
: > [the reason I like this one is that sex is ont something that
one is
: > going to completely avoid, with a substance one can easily be
: > a 'dry drunk', stopping the substance is not the same thing as
: > recovering]
: >
: > Hope that helps
: >
: >
: > --
: > David Bruce Jr
: > Baltimore Maryland
: > Subscribe to our free newsletter
: > "Healthy Boundaries"
: > http://victimbehavior.com
: > Self Help tools for self destructive behavior
: >
: >
: > <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: > news:200820031449161110%sytech@yahoo.com...
: > >
: > >
: > > I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The
program has
: > > some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of ways.
: > >
: > > I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and nasty
people
: > > who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue.
There is a
: > > whole lot of denial in A.A..
: > >
: > > Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have
meetings? I'm
: > > in Central,New Jersey.
: > >
: > >
: > > Thanks,
: > >
: > > Sy
: > >
: > > --
: > > Please post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com
: >
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[Robert McGregor]

" rosie" <readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:U3E_c.1726$B51.1714@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> thanks for reposting the links greg........................there
ARE
> other ways to sober up, and finding out what works for each of us
is
> very important.
>

From: "rosie@readandpost" <readandpostNOT@yahoo.com>

Message-ID: 5Qdsa.61652$YE2.1120895@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com

> i have a private practice and take care of those who have
difficulty

>staying sober, after attendance in treatments

> and/or recovery programs



"rosie read and post" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:IG3vb.47959$Vu6.19200@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...



> you can always use my email.

[rosie]

CROSSPOSTING ELIMINATED

robert,
bored sweetie?

--
"Misleading our nation into war in Iraq makes you unfit to lead this
nation."
.................................................. .................Jo
hn Kerry
http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/USfatalities.html









"Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:2q0i8sFpo3uoU1@uni-berlin.de...
:
: " rosie" <readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com> wrote in message
: news:U3E_c.1726$B51.1714@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
: > thanks for reposting the links greg........................there
: ARE
: > other ways to sober up, and finding out what works for each of
us
: is
: > very important.
: >
:
: From: "rosie@readandpost" <readandpostNOT@yahoo.com>
:
: Message-ID: 5Qdsa.61652$YE2.1120895@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com
:
: > i have a private practice and take care of those who have
: difficulty
:
: >staying sober, after attendance in treatments
:
: > and/or recovery programs
:
:
:
: "rosie read and post" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in message
:
: news:IG3vb.47959$Vu6.19200@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
:
:
:
: > you can always use my email.
:
:

[Robert McGregor]

" rosie" <readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:_ME_c.1729$B51.1088@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> CROSSPOSTING ELIMINATED
>

Really? I'm sure this is merely a temporary reprieve. With your
"spiritual condition" you just wont be able to stop yourself from
crosssposting again.

Nevertheless, pertinent crossposting being within the guidelines of
netiquette, is your god(HP) promising to remove your proclivity to
shout, which is not?

Bob

[rosie]

: Nevertheless, pertinent crossposting being within the guidelines
of
: netiquette, is your god(HP) promising to remove your proclivity to
: shout, which is not?
:
: Bob
:


i shout so you can hear me robert................at your age, i
don't want you to miss a thing!

;)

[Robert McGregor]

" rosie" <readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ZiG_c.1936$B51.831@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> : Nevertheless, pertinent crossposting being within the guidelines
> of
> : netiquette, is your god(HP) promising to remove your proclivity
to
> : shout, which is not?
> :
> : Bob
> :
>
>
> i shout so you can hear me robert................at your age, i
> don't want you to miss a thing!
>
> ;)
>

Hahahahahaha.

When not busy downgrading AA's "God" at step three, you're
re-writing step ten; in promotion of thee.

Bob

[JB]

"Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:2q1a53Fqi1l7U1@uni-berlin.de...
> " rosie" <readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZiG_c.1936$B51.831@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > : Nevertheless, pertinent crossposting being within the guidelines
> > of
> > : netiquette, is your god(HP) promising to remove your proclivity
> to
> > : shout, which is not?
> > :
> > : Bob
> > :
> >
> >
> > i shout so you can hear me robert................at your age, i
> > don't want you to miss a thing!
> >
> > ;)
> >
>
> Hahahahahaha.
>
> When not busy downgrading AA's "God" at step three, you're
> re-writing step ten; in promotion of thee.
>
> Bob
>
From: rosie (readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com)

i KNOW what works for me,and has worked for years and years.
if it works, i don't fix it!>

[rosie]

: > i shout so you can hear me robert................at your age, i
: > don't want you to miss a thing!
: >
: > ;)
: >
:
: Hahahahahaha.
:
: When not busy downgrading AA's "God" at step three, you're
: re-writing step ten; in promotion of thee.
:


:)
love ya!
: Bob
:
:
:
:
:

[David Bruce Jr]

I'd rather fight them over there than fight them here

http://www.victimbehavior.com/politics/




" rosie" <readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:U3E_c.1726$B51.1714@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> thanks for reposting the links greg........................there ARE
> other ways to sober up, and finding out what works for each of us is
> very important.
>
> --
> "Misleading our nation into war in Iraq makes you unfit to lead this
> nation."
> .................................................. ................Jo
> hn Kerry
> http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/USfatalities.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Gregg Fowler" <totsobNOSPAM@NOSPAMnetzero.com> wrote in message
> news:0sSdnVDt_YzAl6bcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> : There are other recovery groups for alcohol also. Websites
> available for
> : different groups are: For LSR or Lifering Secular Recovery -
> : http://www.unhooked.com ; Smart recovery-
> http://www.smartrecovery.org There
> : are others also, but both of these have meetings in some parts of
> the
> : country. LSR has an excellent email list that you can gain access
> to from
> : the website and smart has a message board. They both have online
> meetings
> : also. Personally I get what I can from various sources.
> :
> : Gregg
> :
> : "David Bruce Jr" <davidbrucejr@comcast.net> wrote in message
> : news:4vqdnesnZrFeRaTcRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> : > There are ACOA meetings and Coda meetings
> : >
> : > You could also join a yahoo mailing list, the best one I found
> is
> : > on the topic of sexual addiction
> : > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/astarttorecovery/
> : >
> : >
> : > [the reason I like this one is that sex is ont something that
> one is
> : > going to completely avoid, with a substance one can easily be
> : > a 'dry drunk', stopping the substance is not the same thing as
> : > recovering]
> : >
> : > Hope that helps
> : >
> : >
> : > --
> : > David Bruce Jr
> : > Baltimore Maryland
> : > Subscribe to our free newsletter
> : > "Healthy Boundaries"
> : > http://victimbehavior.com
> : > Self Help tools for self destructive behavior
> : >
> : >
> : > <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> : > news:200820031449161110%sytech@yahoo.com...
> : > >
> : > >
> : > > I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The
> program has
> : > > some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of ways.
> : > >
> : > > I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and nasty
> people
> : > > who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue.
> There is a
> : > > whole lot of denial in A.A..
> : > >
> : > > Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have
> meetings? I'm
> : > > in Central,New Jersey.
> : > >
> : > >
> : > > Thanks,
> : > >
> : > > Sy
> : > >
> : > > --
> : > > Please post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com
> : >
> : >
> : > ---
> : > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> : > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> : > Version: 6.0.752 / Virus Database: 503 - Release Date: 9/4/2004
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>


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[Robert McGregor]

"David Bruce Jr" <davidbrucejr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:VMidnbhqSbL3XKbcRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> I'd rather fight them over there than fight them here
>
> http://www.victimbehavior.com/politics/


Wow! What a concept!
Pre-emptive victim behaviour!

Bob

>
> " rosie" <readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:U3E_c.1726$B51.1714@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > thanks for reposting the links greg........................there
ARE
> > other ways to sober up, and finding out what works for each of us
is
> > very important.
> >
> > --
> > "Misleading our nation into war in Iraq makes you unfit to lead
this
> > nation."
> >
.................................................. .................Jo
> > hn Kerry
> > http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/USfatalities.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Gregg Fowler" <totsobNOSPAM@NOSPAMnetzero.com> wrote in message
> > news:0sSdnVDt_YzAl6bcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> > : There are other recovery groups for alcohol also. Websites
> > available for
> > : different groups are: For LSR or Lifering Secular Recovery -
> > : http://www.unhooked.com ; Smart recovery-
> > http://www.smartrecovery.org There
> > : are others also, but both of these have meetings in some parts
of
> > the
> > : country. LSR has an excellent email list that you can gain
access
> > to from
> > : the website and smart has a message board. They both have
online
> > meetings
> > : also. Personally I get what I can from various sources.
> > :
> > : Gregg
> > :
> > : "David Bruce Jr" <davidbrucejr@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > : news:4vqdnesnZrFeRaTcRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> > : > There are ACOA meetings and Coda meetings
> > : >
> > : > You could also join a yahoo mailing list, the best one I
found
> > is
> > : > on the topic of sexual addiction
> > : > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/astarttorecovery/
> > : >
> > : >
> > : > [the reason I like this one is that sex is ont something that
> > one is
> > : > going to completely avoid, with a substance one can easily be
> > : > a 'dry drunk', stopping the substance is not the same thing
as
> > : > recovering]
> > : >
> > : > Hope that helps
> > : >
> > : >
> > : > --
> > : > David Bruce Jr
> > : > Baltimore Maryland
> > : > Subscribe to our free newsletter
> > : > "Healthy Boundaries"
> > : > http://victimbehavior.com
> > : > Self Help tools for self destructive behavior
> > : >
> > : >
> > : > <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > : > news:200820031449161110%sytech@yahoo.com...
> > : > >
> > : > >
> > : > > I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The
> > program has
> > : > > some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of
ways.
> > : > >
> > : > > I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and
nasty
> > people
> > : > > who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue.
> > There is a
> > : > > whole lot of denial in A.A..
> > : > >
> > : > > Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have
> > meetings? I'm
> > : > > in Central,New Jersey.
> > : > >
> > : > >
> > : > > Thanks,
> > : > >
> > : > > Sy
> > : > >
> > : > > --
> > : > > Please post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com
> > : >
> > : >
> > : > ---
> > : > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > : > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > : > Version: 6.0.752 / Virus Database: 503 - Release Date:
9/4/2004
> > : >
> > : >
> > :
> > :
> >
> >
>
>
> ---
> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.752 / Virus Database: 503 - Release Date: 9/3/2004
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