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rosie read n' post
08-21-2005, 09:22 AM
August 21, 2005

Daily Reflections

WE JUST TRY, p.242

My stability came out of trying to give, not out of demanding that
I receive.
The Best Of Bill, pp. 46-47

As long as I try, with all my heart and soul, to pass along to others
what has been passed along to me, and do not demand anything in
return, life is good to me. Before entering this program of Alcoholics
Anonymous I was never able to give without demanding something
in return. Little did I know that, once I began to give freely of
myself, I would begin to receive, without ever expecting or
demanding anything at all. What I receive today is the gift of
"stability," as Bill did: stability in my A.A. program; within
myself; but most of all, in my relationship with my Higher Power,
whom I choose to call God.

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Tom
08-21-2005, 10:12 AM
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:22:35 GMT, "rosie read n' post"
<readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote:

>August 21, 2005
>
>Daily Reflections
>
>WE JUST TRY, p.242
>
>My stability came out of trying to give, not out of demanding that
>I receive.
>The Best Of Bill, pp. 46-47
>
>As long as I try, with all my heart and soul, to pass along to others
>what has been passed along to me, and do not demand anything in
>return, life is good to me. Before entering this program of Alcoholics
>Anonymous I was never able to give without demanding something
>in return. Little did I know that, once I began to give freely of
>myself, I would begin to receive, without ever expecting or
>demanding anything at all. What I receive today is the gift of
>"stability," as Bill did: stability in my A.A. program; within
>myself; but most of all, in my relationship with my Higher Power,
>whom I choose to call God.
>
>************************************************** *********

As Bill did, now that's a good one.

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GaryE
08-21-2005, 03:11 PM
On 21 Aug 2005 14:12:02 GMT, Tom <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:22:35 GMT, "rosie read n' post"
><readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>August 21, 2005
>>
>>Daily Reflections
>>
>>WE JUST TRY, p.242
>>
>>My stability came out of trying to give, not out of demanding that
>>I receive.
>>The Best Of Bill, pp. 46-47
>>
>>As long as I try, with all my heart and soul, to pass along to others
>>what has been passed along to me, and do not demand anything in
>>return, life is good to me. Before entering this program of Alcoholics
>>Anonymous I was never able to give without demanding something
>>in return. Little did I know that, once I began to give freely of
>>myself, I would begin to receive, without ever expecting or
>>demanding anything at all. What I receive today is the gift of
>>"stability," as Bill did: stability in my A.A. program; within
>>myself; but most of all, in my relationship with my Higher Power,
>>whom I choose to call God.
>>
>>************************************************** *********
>
>As Bill did, now that's a good one.

It has the 'never' word, in it. A sure sign of, well, let's call it
hyperbole, instead of careless lying......which is just another
indication to me, that if a person wants to get sober bad enough,
words don't matter.

And if one is looking to give away their mind and their intelligence,
then there is always someone, altruistic, benign, or evil, that is
willing to take it and shape it to their liking. Most of life is
really, a battle for the mind. A brilliant high IQ guy like Sharx for
example, forfeited his brilliant high IQ and see what its what its
made him. A fine example of a Walking BB. An angry one, to be sure,
a bile spewing vitriolic bastard if I ever read one. A long way from
the serenity that is promised.

Didja ever notice, Tom, that people or groups who want your mind,
won't you to give up thinking because it is baaaad. I always liked
the word 'suggested' but you know I found out it had a 'wink'
associated with it.

Best,
GaryE

Tom
08-21-2005, 03:43 PM
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 14:11:07 -0500, GaryE <garyexxxxxxx@swbell.net>
wrote:

>On 21 Aug 2005 14:12:02 GMT, Tom <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:22:35 GMT, "rosie read n' post"
>><readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>August 21, 2005
>>>
>>>Daily Reflections
>>>
>>>WE JUST TRY, p.242
>>>
>>>My stability came out of trying to give, not out of demanding that
>>>I receive.
>>>The Best Of Bill, pp. 46-47
>>>
>>>As long as I try, with all my heart and soul, to pass along to others
>>>what has been passed along to me, and do not demand anything in
>>>return, life is good to me. Before entering this program of Alcoholics
>>>Anonymous I was never able to give without demanding something
>>>in return. Little did I know that, once I began to give freely of
>>>myself, I would begin to receive, without ever expecting or
>>>demanding anything at all. What I receive today is the gift of
>>>"stability," as Bill did: stability in my A.A. program; within
>>>myself; but most of all, in my relationship with my Higher Power,
>>>whom I choose to call God.
>>>
>>>************************************************** *********
>>
>>As Bill did, now that's a good one.
>
>It has the 'never' word, in it. A sure sign of, well, let's call it
>hyperbole, instead of careless lying......which is just another
>indication to me, that if a person wants to get sober bad enough,
>words don't matter.
>
>And if one is looking to give away their mind and their intelligence,
>then there is always someone, altruistic, benign, or evil, that is
>willing to take it and shape it to their liking. Most of life is
>really, a battle for the mind. A brilliant high IQ guy like Sharx for
>example, forfeited his brilliant high IQ and see what its what its
>made him. A fine example of a Walking BB. An angry one, to be sure,
>a bile spewing vitriolic bastard if I ever read one. A long way from
>the serenity that is promised.
>
>Didja ever notice, Tom, that people or groups who want your mind,
>won't you to give up thinking because it is baaaad. I always liked
>the word 'suggested' but you know I found out it had a 'wink'
>associated with it.
>
>Best,
>GaryE

As Bill did.....as in it somehow adds a glow to one's stability...or
whatever ... you've mentioned suffering (having) depression a time or
two ....well now, was it depression like Bill had? If it is or was
would that make it spiritual depression?

The one thing Bill had I wouldn't mine having would be the
royalities...now with those I could be stable as all get out.

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GaryE
08-21-2005, 07:17 PM
On 21 Aug 2005 19:43:42 GMT, Tom <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote:


>
>As Bill did.....as in it somehow adds a glow to one's stability...or
>whatever ... you've mentioned suffering (having) depression a time or
>two ....well now, was it depression like Bill had? If it is or was
>would that make it spiritual depression?

I'm not sure I can compare depressions. But I can say that mine
meanders between 'mood swings' (somethings wildly) and deep depression
of the suicidal variety. The deeps, fortunately for me, and few and
far between and when I say 'suicidal' I mean stark suicidal (how can I
kill myself and not embarrass my kids) to just morbid thoughts...like
"if I could just die, then I wouldn't have any problems or that
problem wouldn't exist for me anymore...sort of like an escape
route..you see.
>
>The one thing Bill had I wouldn't mine having would be the
>royalities...now with those I could be stable as all get out.

Money is a fine salve. I used to say that money would not take away
my insecurities. Well, when I had more than I needed and some stashed
away, it almost did. So I took that statement that I heard from
someone else (you know how we do that in AA) and said, 'it has a nice
sound like wisdom, but its just not true for me'. I think if I could
win the lotto, my challenges in life would evolve to something else.
What this does mean is that I could have accomodated myself better
when younger..could have saved more, invested more, not spent as much,
and on. But what is life without mistakes or poor judgment. It's
utopia and I'm not in Utopia, not even close. Make sense?

Best,
GaryE

Tom
08-21-2005, 11:17 PM
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:17:08 -0500, GaryE <garyexxxxxxx@swbell.net>
wrote:

>I'm not sure I can compare depressions.

My point.....

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Tom
08-21-2005, 11:22 PM
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:17:08 -0500, GaryE <garyexxxxxxx@swbell.net>
wrote:

>
>Money is a fine salve.

It can be. My point was I don't want anothers sobriety, women,
stability....rather have my own...now money is a different story
because it really doesn't have an owner.

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