8-20-05

[rosie read n' post]

August 20, 2005

Daily Reflections

TOWARD EMOTIONAL FREEDOM

Since defective relations with other human beings have nearly always
been the immediate cause of our woes, including our alcoholism, no
field of investigation could yield more satisfying and valuable
rewards than this one.
TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS , p. 80

Willingness is a peculiar thing for me in that, over a period of
time, it seems to come, first with awareness, but then with a
feeling of discomfort, making me want to take some action. As I
reflected on taking the Eighth Step, my willingness to make amends
to others came as a desire for forgiveness, of others and myself.
I felt forgiveness toward others after I became aware of my part
in the difficulties of relationships. I wanted to feel the peace
and serenity described in the Promises. From working the first
seven Steps, I became aware of whom I had harmed and that I had
been my own worst enemy. In order to restore my relationships
with my fellow human beings, I knew I would have to change. I
wanted to learn to live in harmony with myself and others so that
I could also live in emotional freedom. The beginning of the end
to my isolation - from my fellows and from God - came when I
wrote my Eighth Step list.

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--

[tedw]

rosie read n' post wrote:
> August 20, 2005
>
> Daily Reflections
>
> TOWARD EMOTIONAL FREEDOM
>
> Since defective relations with other human beings have nearly always
> been the immediate cause of our woes, including our alcoholism, no
> field of investigation could yield more satisfying and valuable
> rewards than this one.
> TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS , p. 80
>
> Willingness is a peculiar thing for me in that, over a period of
> time, it seems to come, first with awareness, but then with a
> feeling of discomfort, making me want to take some action. As I
> reflected on taking the Eighth Step, my willingness to make amends
> to others came as a desire for forgiveness, of others and myself.
> I felt forgiveness toward others after I became aware of my part
> in the difficulties of relationships. I wanted to feel the peace
> and serenity described in the Promises. From working the first
> seven Steps, I became aware of whom I had harmed and that I had
> been my own worst enemy. In order to restore my relationships
> with my fellow human beings, I knew I would have to change. I
> wanted to learn to live in harmony with myself and others so that
> I could also live in emotional freedom. The beginning of the end
> to my isolation - from my fellows and from God - came when I
> wrote my Eighth Step list.
>
> ************************************************** *********
>
>
> --

The only trouble with this is that at the time Bill Wilson was writing
it he was cheating on his wife, and experiencing his own depression.
And he was unwilling to change. As far as I can see, he never did
change. Such hypocricy.

[F.H.]

tedw wrote:
> rosie read n' post wrote:
>
>>August 20, 2005
>>
>>Daily Reflections
>>
>>TOWARD EMOTIONAL FREEDOM
>>
>>Since defective relations with other human beings have nearly always
>>been the immediate cause of our woes, including our alcoholism, no
>>field of investigation could yield more satisfying and valuable
>>rewards than this one.
>>TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS , p. 80
>>
>>Willingness is a peculiar thing for me in that, over a period of
>>time, it seems to come, first with awareness, but then with a
>>feeling of discomfort, making me want to take some action. As I
>>reflected on taking the Eighth Step, my willingness to make amends
>>to others came as a desire for forgiveness, of others and myself.
>>I felt forgiveness toward others after I became aware of my part
>>in the difficulties of relationships. I wanted to feel the peace
>>and serenity described in the Promises. From working the first
>>seven Steps, I became aware of whom I had harmed and that I had
>>been my own worst enemy. In order to restore my relationships
>>with my fellow human beings, I knew I would have to change. I
>>wanted to learn to live in harmony with myself and others so that
>>I could also live in emotional freedom. The beginning of the end
>>to my isolation - from my fellows and from God - came when I
>>wrote my Eighth Step list.

> The only trouble with this is that at the time Bill Wilson was writing
> it he was cheating on his wife, and experiencing his own depression.
> And he was unwilling to change. As far as I can see, he never did
> change. Such hypocricy.

The Lord works in mysterious ways. The shame Bill avoided is being
experienced vicariously by countless Godly judges all these years later.

[Chris]

Hmm

[stuart]

tedw <tedw2@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1124548672.896392.124220@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> rosie read n' post wrote:
> > August 20, 2005
> >
> > Daily Reflections
> >
> > TOWARD EMOTIONAL FREEDOM
> >
> > Since defective relations with other human beings have nearly always
> > been the immediate cause of our woes, including our alcoholism, no
> > field of investigation could yield more satisfying and valuable
> > rewards than this one.
> > TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS , p. 80
> >
> > Willingness is a peculiar thing for me in that, over a period of
> > time, it seems to come, first with awareness, but then with a
> > feeling of discomfort, making me want to take some action. As I
> > reflected on taking the Eighth Step, my willingness to make amends
> > to others came as a desire for forgiveness, of others and myself.
> > I felt forgiveness toward others after I became aware of my part
> > in the difficulties of relationships. I wanted to feel the peace
> > and serenity described in the Promises. From working the first
> > seven Steps, I became aware of whom I had harmed and that I had
> > been my own worst enemy. In order to restore my relationships
> > with my fellow human beings, I knew I would have to change. I
> > wanted to learn to live in harmony with myself and others so that
> > I could also live in emotional freedom. The beginning of the end
> > to my isolation - from my fellows and from God - came when I
> > wrote my Eighth Step list.
> >
> > ************************************************** *********
> >
> >
> > --
>
> The only trouble with this is that at the time Bill Wilson was writing
> it he was cheating on his wife, and experiencing his own depression.
> And he was unwilling to change. As far as I can see, he never did
> change. Such hypocricy.

But as far as we know tedw he did stay sober, which is more than I would.
predict for you. Now, get on your knees and repent your sinning ways ted,
before you get tempted to sin again sometime in the future.
PS How come you always duck my difficult questions. I asked you point blank
what qualifies you to speak for everyone else's moral behavior on behalf of
God.
I think you ought to be ashamed of yourself, offering such pretense among
your fellows here/

God "is" always watching us ted...

[Chris]

I thought it was "Progress. NOT perfection. And a No No to be taking
someone elses inventory.
12Steps and 12 Traditions Pg. 15....... "This book deals with the
"Twelve Steps" and the "Twelve Traditions" OF ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS". Not
the 12 and 12 of Bill Wilson.

[Mark Warner]

"tedw" wrote
> rosie read n' post wrote:
> > August 20, 2005
> >
> > Daily Reflections
> >
> > TOWARD EMOTIONAL FREEDOM
> >
> > Since defective relations with other human beings have nearly always
> > been the immediate cause of our woes, including our alcoholism, no
> > field of investigation could yield more satisfying and valuable
> > rewards than this one.
> > TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS , p. 80
> >
> > Willingness is a peculiar thing for me in that, over a period of
> > time, it seems to come, first with awareness, but then with a
> > feeling of discomfort, making me want to take some action. As I
> > reflected on taking the Eighth Step, my willingness to make amends
> > to others came as a desire for forgiveness, of others and myself.
> > I felt forgiveness toward others after I became aware of my part
> > in the difficulties of relationships. I wanted to feel the peace
> > and serenity described in the Promises. From working the first
> > seven Steps, I became aware of whom I had harmed and that I had
> > been my own worst enemy. In order to restore my relationships
> > with my fellow human beings, I knew I would have to change. I
> > wanted to learn to live in harmony with myself and others so that
> > I could also live in emotional freedom. The beginning of the end
> > to my isolation - from my fellows and from God - came when I
> > wrote my Eighth Step list.
>
> The only trouble with this is that at the time Bill Wilson was writing
> it he was cheating on his wife, and experiencing his own depression.
> And he was unwilling to change. As far as I can see, he never did
> change. Such hypocricy.

Bill Wilson didn't write the second paragraph.

--
Mark Warner
lose .inhibitions when replying

[GaryE]

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 10:56:47 -0500, "Mark Warner"
<mhwarner.inhibitions@insightbb.com> wrote:

>
>"tedw" wrote
>> rosie read n' post wrote:
>> > August 20, 2005
>> >
>> > Daily Reflections
>> >
>> > TOWARD EMOTIONAL FREEDOM
>> >
>> > Since defective relations with other human beings have nearly always
>> > been the immediate cause of our woes, including our alcoholism, no
>> > field of investigation could yield more satisfying and valuable
>> > rewards than this one.
>> > TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS , p. 80
>> >
>> > Willingness is a peculiar thing for me in that, over a period of
>> > time, it seems to come, first with awareness, but then with a
>> > feeling of discomfort, making me want to take some action. As I
>> > reflected on taking the Eighth Step, my willingness to make amends
>> > to others came as a desire for forgiveness, of others and myself.
>> > I felt forgiveness toward others after I became aware of my part
>> > in the difficulties of relationships. I wanted to feel the peace
>> > and serenity described in the Promises. From working the first
>> > seven Steps, I became aware of whom I had harmed and that I had
>> > been my own worst enemy. In order to restore my relationships
>> > with my fellow human beings, I knew I would have to change. I
>> > wanted to learn to live in harmony with myself and others so that
>> > I could also live in emotional freedom. The beginning of the end
>> > to my isolation - from my fellows and from God - came when I
>> > wrote my Eighth Step list.
>>
>> The only trouble with this is that at the time Bill Wilson was writing
>> it he was cheating on his wife, and experiencing his own depression.
>> And he was unwilling to change. As far as I can see, he never did
>> change. Such hypocricy.
>
>Bill Wilson didn't write the second paragraph.

True. Bill Wilson never did the Steps. He was a 2 Stepper,so I
understand.

[Ted L.]

"GaryE" <garyexxxxxxx@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:1tbfg1hun3bm966p260lulna1kohk8jhvn@4ax.com...
>
> True. Bill Wilson never did the Steps. He was a 2 Stepper,so I
> understand.

1st & 13th?

--
Ted L.

Benedictus, qui venit in nomine Domini.

[F.H.]

Ted L. wrote:
> "GaryE" <garyexxxxxxx@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:1tbfg1hun3bm966p260lulna1kohk8jhvn@4ax.com...
>
>>True. Bill Wilson never did the Steps. He was a 2 Stepper,so I
>>understand.
>
>
> 1st & 13th?

Envy???

[Ted L.]

"F.H." <connectu2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:k_mOe.10533$M3.4215@trnddc05...
> Ted L. wrote:
> > "GaryE" <garyexxxxxxx@swbell.net> wrote in message
> > news:1tbfg1hun3bm966p260lulna1kohk8jhvn@4ax.com...
> >
> >>True. Bill Wilson never did the Steps. He was a 2 Stepper,so I
> >>understand.
> >
> >
> > 1st & 13th?
>
> Envy???

Must be. I've never really done the 1st step.

--
Ted L.

Benedictus, qui venit in nomine Domini.

[Mark Warner]

F.H. wrote:
> Ted L. wrote:
>> "GaryE" wrote
>>>
>>> True. Bill Wilson never did the Steps. He was a 2 Stepper,so I
>>> understand.
>>
>> 1st & 13th?
>
> Envy???

Admiration.

--
Mark Warner
lose .inhibitions when replying

[F.H.]

Mark Warner wrote:
> F.H. wrote:
>
>> Ted L. wrote:
>>
>>> "GaryE" wrote
>>>
>>>>
>>>> True. Bill Wilson never did the Steps. He was a 2 Stepper,so I
>>>> understand.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1st & 13th?
>>
>>
>> Envy???
>
>
> Admiration.

Invidia.

[David M]

Ted L. wrote:
> "F.H." wrote:
>> Ted L. wrote:
>>> "GaryE" wrote:

>>>> True. Bill Wilson never did the Steps. He was a 2
>>>> Stepper,so I understand.

>>> 1st & 13th?

>> Envy???

> Must be. I've never really done the 1st step.

No need formally to admited powerlessness after an attempted 13th
convinced you? ;-)

[Ted L.]

"David M" <dhmce@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:3mufpdF189s2rU1@individual.net...
>
> No need formally to admited powerlessness after an attempted 13th
> convinced you? ;-)
>

I thought we were talking about booze...
Besides, I've never had enough courage to attempt the other.

--
Ted L.

Benedictus, qui venit in nomine Domini.

[Philip Demarco]

In article <3mucliF18rhaeU1@individual.net>, Mark Warner
<mhwarner.inhibitions@insightbb.com> wrote:

> F.H. wrote:
> > Ted L. wrote:
> >> "GaryE" wrote
> >>>
> >>> True. Bill Wilson never did the Steps. He was a 2 Stepper,so I
> >>> understand.
> >>
> >> 1st & 13th?
> >
> > Envy???
>
> Admiration.

Warm glow.

--
Philip Demarco
WYSIWYG