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Crystal
08-15-2005, 06:45 PM
I just have one last question, as I am not going to drink tonight and then
I'll stop "whining" as someone said.

What are the possible side effects that I might experience over the next few
days, weeks, months? Not being able to sleep is going to be a big problem
for me, at least I think so, but I'm going to try not to dwell on it
tonight.

Been There, Got a Mug
08-15-2005, 07:10 PM
Crystal wrote:
> I just have one last question, as I am not going to drink tonight and then
> I'll stop "whining" as someone said.
>
> What are the possible side effects that I might experience over the next few
> days, weeks, months? Not being able to sleep is going to be a big problem
> for me, at least I think so, but I'm going to try not to dwell on it
> tonight.
>
>

Crystal.
I want to truely apologize for what you referred to as "snide"
comments. Perhaps my tone didn't represent my feelings toward
how urgent and severe recovery is for anyone, including me and the
depths most people sink to before they really get the help one
needs.

Anyway. Having a support system, even if it is through usenet group
is better than nothing. For that I applaud you for coming back.
I was actually thinking of pinging you myself. However, I must say
a keyboard is no replacement for human contact.

With that said, your likely feel a whole emotional up and downs,
and depending how addicted your *body* is to alcohol, it could
the shakes.

Gail
08-15-2005, 07:12 PM
Crystal wrote:
> I just have one last question, as I am not going to drink tonight and
> then I'll stop "whining" as someone said.
>
> What are the possible side effects that I might experience over the
> next few days, weeks, months? Not being able to sleep is going to be
> a big problem for me, at least I think so, but I'm going to try not
> to dwell on it tonight.

For me, it was insomnia, lack of consentration, lack of coordination, loss
of appetite and weight. It sounds awful but, it doesn't last forever. If the
most of us got through it, you can to.
If you have a primary physician and can be honest with him about your
drinking and that you are attempting to quit, he might prescribe something
short term to help you sleep. Others might suggest something different. Just
my experience and opinion. It is realy hard to function next day and do your
job if you are not sleeping. Do what you have to do, for you, and don't
drink.
Oh yeah, if you are not diabetic, chocolate was a favorite of mine while
coming off the drink. Shux, it still is...;)
Gail

David M
08-15-2005, 07:17 PM
Crystal wrote:

> I just have one last question, as I am not going to drink tonight
> and then I'll stop "whining" as someone said.

> What are the possible side effects that I might experience over
> the next few days, weeks, months? Not being able to sleep is
> going to be a big problem for me, at least I think so, but I'm
> going to try not to dwell on it tonight.

Withdrawal problems can range from very mild to quite serious.
People react differentlty. Try to stay calm. Chances are you'll be
all right, but don't hesitate to get medical help if things start
getting out of hand. Good luck!

http://tinyurl.com/9o89w

Crystal
08-15-2005, 07:17 PM
"Gail" <serenity6850_2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Wj9Me.9754$0E5.3470@fe05.lga...
> Crystal wrote:
>> I just have one last question, as I am not going to drink tonight and
>> then I'll stop "whining" as someone said.
>>
>> What are the possible side effects that I might experience over the
>> next few days, weeks, months? Not being able to sleep is going to be
>> a big problem for me, at least I think so, but I'm going to try not
>> to dwell on it tonight.
>
> For me, it was insomnia, lack of consentration, lack of coordination, loss
> of appetite and weight. It sounds awful but, it doesn't last forever. If
> the most of us got through it, you can to.
> If you have a primary physician and can be honest with him about your
> drinking and that you are attempting to quit, he might prescribe something
> short term to help you sleep. Others might suggest something different.
> Just my experience and opinion. It is realy hard to function next day and
> do your job if you are not sleeping. Do what you have to do, for you, and
> don't drink.
> Oh yeah, if you are not diabetic, chocolate was a favorite of mine while
> coming off the drink. Shux, it still is...;)
> Gail


I went out at lunchtime and stocked up on Diet Rite (no caffeine) in
different flavors plus sugar free koolaid. I'll suck that down in place of
the wine tonight while in front of the tube. I got some microwave popcorn
and pretzels to munch on too. I figure better to have food calories right
now and not the wine.

I just ate dinner and now I'm going to take the dog for a long walk then get
online and play some video games until later, late as possible, they always
make me tired. I have high hopes I can succeed at this as I did with my
long term smoking habit.

someone in need
08-15-2005, 07:20 PM
exercise and good nutrition and hydration doesnt hurt.


On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:45:56 GMT, "Crystal"
<idontlikeemail@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I just have one last question, as I am not going to drink tonight and then
>I'll stop "whining" as someone said.
>
>What are the possible side effects that I might experience over the next few
>days, weeks, months? Not being able to sleep is going to be a big problem
>for me, at least I think so, but I'm going to try not to dwell on it
>tonight.
>

Been There, Got a Mug
08-15-2005, 07:22 PM
Gail wrote:
>
> If you have a primary physician and can be honest with him about your
> drinking and that you are attempting to quit, he might prescribe something
> short term to help you sleep.
>
>
Librium and Revia
You have insurance. use it ;-) .

Robert McGregor
08-15-2005, 08:09 PM
"Crystal" <idontlikeemail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:EW8Me.4229$cg.2328@news02.roc.ny...
>I just have one last question, as I am not going to drink tonight
>and then I'll stop "whining" as someone said.
>
> What are the possible side effects that I might experience over the
> next few days, weeks, months? Not being able to sleep is going to
> be a big problem for me, at least I think so, but I'm going to try
> not to dwell on it tonight.

I was told that if one removes a negative from one's life, it's best
to replace that negative with a positive immediately; before half a
dozen other negatives rush to fill the vacancy. More than half a
century later, I still value that advice.

Have you checked out the moderation website?
http://www.moderation.org/whatisMM.shtml

Bob

John Droge
08-15-2005, 08:26 PM
"Crystal" <idontlikeemail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:EW8Me.4229$cg.2328@news02.roc.ny...
> I just have one last question, as I am not going to drink tonight and then
> I'll stop "whining" as someone said.
>
> What are the possible side effects that I might experience over the next
few
> days, weeks, months? Not being able to sleep is going to be a big problem
> for me, at least I think so, but I'm going to try not to dwell on it
> tonight.
>
>
Crystal
I think from your description of your drinking that the biggest negative
side effect is that you will end up drinking.
I hope that the biggest positive side effect is that you will find your way
to AA and sobriety.
Another fellow Wino, I was putting away 5 liters a day at the end before I
found AA.
Peace
John

stuart
08-15-2005, 09:52 PM
Crystal <idontlikeemail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:EW8Me.4229$cg.2328@news02.roc.ny...
> I just have one last question, as I am not going to drink tonight and then
> I'll stop "whining" as someone said.
>
> What are the possible side effects that I might experience over the next
few
> days, weeks, months? Not being able to sleep is going to be a big problem
> for me, at least I think so, but I'm going to try not to dwell on it
> tonight.

You are probably going to emotionally feel everything more intently Crystal,
humour, elation, worry, anxiety, anger...everything will most likely
augmented and you may even experience difficulty sleeping the first little
while.

Stopping for a bit can be done. But in my experience anyways, unless
something is done to ease that "background chatter" in the mind, eventually
the desire to drink "may" erode away at the will-power, if that is indeed
what you are using to quit.

I found a very real need to work on how I was thinking, and how I was
feeling 24/7. Once my thinking got healthier, my actions got better, and
life's outcomes began to improve dramatically (I did not know just how
mediocre I as performing during the sober day). I got happier, more mellow,
more content and comfortable in my own skin. The desire to drink vanished
completely..

Best of luck. Keep going forwards...

Stuart

Crystal
08-15-2005, 10:03 PM
"stuart" <fred@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:7FbMe.180823$HI.129111@edtnps84...
>
> Crystal <idontlikeemail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:EW8Me.4229$cg.2328@news02.roc.ny...
>> I just have one last question, as I am not going to drink tonight and
>> then
>> I'll stop "whining" as someone said.
>>
>> What are the possible side effects that I might experience over the next
> few
>> days, weeks, months? Not being able to sleep is going to be a big
>> problem
>> for me, at least I think so, but I'm going to try not to dwell on it
>> tonight.
>
> You are probably going to emotionally feel everything more intently
> Crystal,
> humour, elation, worry, anxiety, anger...everything will most likely
> augmented and you may even experience difficulty sleeping the first little
> while.
>
> Stopping for a bit can be done. But in my experience anyways, unless
> something is done to ease that "background chatter" in the mind,
> eventually
> the desire to drink "may" erode away at the will-power, if that is indeed
> what you are using to quit.
>
> I found a very real need to work on how I was thinking, and how I was
> feeling 24/7. Once my thinking got healthier, my actions got better, and
> life's outcomes began to improve dramatically (I did not know just how
> mediocre I as performing during the sober day). I got happier, more
> mellow,
> more content and comfortable in my own skin. The desire to drink vanished
> completely..
>
> Best of luck. Keep going forwards...
>
> Stuart


you give very good advise Stuart, that you, and believe me I am taking it
all to heart... I'm sitting here now really wanting that glass of wine...
actually though, strangly I am having a kind of "nic fit" feeling in my
head, if you ever smoked you know the feeling...

lets see, I walked the dog, I talked on the computer, I even popped in an
exercise tape, watched a 30 min show, and I think now I'll play some online
cards... and hopefully until I am tired enough to go to sleep and then onto
another day

tomorrow I am going to the libary at lunch, they are holding Living Sober
for me and another one about Facts and Myths of Alcohol and I was going to
look at others. I typically spend my lunchtimes and breaks reading so I get
quite a bit done.

I have not ruled out AA, I actually looked up meeting in other towns, where
I would less likely run into people I know. I'll cross that bridge if I
need to.

stuart
08-15-2005, 11:26 PM
Crystal <idontlikeemail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dQbMe.4248$cg.1552@news02.roc.ny...
>
> "stuart" <fred@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:7FbMe.180823$HI.129111@edtnps84...
> >
> > Crystal <idontlikeemail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:EW8Me.4229$cg.2328@news02.roc.ny...
> >> I just have one last question, as I am not going to drink tonight and
> >> then
> >> I'll stop "whining" as someone said.
> >>
> >> What are the possible side effects that I might experience over the
next
> > few
> >> days, weeks, months? Not being able to sleep is going to be a big
> >> problem
> >> for me, at least I think so, but I'm going to try not to dwell on it
> >> tonight.
> >
> > You are probably going to emotionally feel everything more intently
> > Crystal,
> > humour, elation, worry, anxiety, anger...everything will most likely
> > augmented and you may even experience difficulty sleeping the first
little
> > while.
> >
> > Stopping for a bit can be done. But in my experience anyways, unless
> > something is done to ease that "background chatter" in the mind,
> > eventually
> > the desire to drink "may" erode away at the will-power, if that is
indeed
> > what you are using to quit.
> >
> > I found a very real need to work on how I was thinking, and how I was
> > feeling 24/7. Once my thinking got healthier, my actions got better, and
> > life's outcomes began to improve dramatically (I did not know just how
> > mediocre I as performing during the sober day). I got happier, more
> > mellow,
> > more content and comfortable in my own skin. The desire to drink
vanished
> > completely..
> >
> > Best of luck. Keep going forwards...
> >
> > Stuart
>
>
> you give very good advise Stuart, that you, and believe me I am taking it
> all to heart... I'm sitting here now really wanting that glass of
wine...
> actually though, strangly I am having a kind of "nic fit" feeling in my
> head, if you ever smoked you know the feeling...
>
> lets see, I walked the dog, I talked on the computer, I even popped in an
> exercise tape, watched a 30 min show, and I think now I'll play some
online
> cards... and hopefully until I am tired enough to go to sleep and then
onto
> another day
>
> tomorrow I am going to the libary at lunch, they are holding Living Sober
> for me and another one about Facts and Myths of Alcohol and I was going to
> look at others. I typically spend my lunchtimes and breaks reading so I
get
> quite a bit done.
>
> I have not ruled out AA, I actually looked up meeting in other towns,
where
> I would less likely run into people I know. I'll cross that bridge if I
> need to.

Ha; say! remember what Forrest Gump did when he was disquieted over losing
the girl? He ran for two years!!
Is that an addicted mindset or what? But there is omething to be said for
switching addictions. I started going out for coffee with my new friends,
played a little pool, went to car shows with them. I went out in our long
Alberta summer evenings and learned to fly at the local flying club.
Eventually I re-discovered my childhood passion for downhill skiing in the
mountains at Banff and Jasper. I forgot how beautiful it was out there....

rosie read n' post
08-16-2005, 11:45 AM
if you suffer from withdrawal, some side effects could be: insomnia,
irritability, fatigue, loss of appetite, depression, hand tremors,
severe headache to name a few.

i was drinking about a gallon of wine and a 30 cupper of coffee daily
when i quit, and i do not remember the first couple days of my
withdrawal.
i do know that my husband never left my side as i detoxed at home.

rosie

--




"Crystal" <idontlikeemail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:EW8Me.4229$cg.2328@news02.roc.ny...
> I just have one last question, as I am not going to drink tonight and
then
> I'll stop "whining" as someone said.
>
> What are the possible side effects that I might experience over the
next few
> days, weeks, months? Not being able to sleep is going to be a big
problem
> for me, at least I think so, but I'm going to try not to dwell on it
> tonight.
>
>

rosie read n' post
08-16-2005, 11:47 AM
crystal,
IMO, quitting smoking was much harder, than quitting drinking!
rosie

--




"Crystal" <idontlikeemail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Gail" <serenity6850_2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Wj9Me.9754$0E5.3470@fe05.lga...
> > Crystal wrote:
> >> I just have one last question, as I am not going to drink tonight
and
> >> then I'll stop "whining" as someone said.
> >>
> >> What are the possible side effects that I might experience over the
> >> next few days, weeks, months? Not being able to sleep is going to
be
> >> a big problem for me, at least I think so, but I'm going to try not
> >> to dwell on it tonight.
> >
> > For me, it was insomnia, lack of consentration, lack of
coordination, loss
> > of appetite and weight. It sounds awful but, it doesn't last
forever. If
> > the most of us got through it, you can to.
> > If you have a primary physician and can be honest with him about
your
> > drinking and that you are attempting to quit, he might prescribe
something
> > short term to help you sleep. Others might suggest something
different.
> > Just my experience and opinion. It is realy hard to function next
day and
> > do your job if you are not sleeping. Do what you have to do, for
you, and
> > don't drink.
> > Oh yeah, if you are not diabetic, chocolate was a favorite of mine
while
> > coming off the drink. Shux, it still is...;)
> > Gail
>
>
> I went out at lunchtime and stocked up on Diet Rite (no caffeine) in
> different flavors plus sugar free koolaid. I'll suck that down in
place of
> the wine tonight while in front of the tube. I got some microwave
popcorn
> and pretzels to munch on too. I figure better to have food calories
right
> now and not the wine.
>
> I just ate dinner and now I'm going to take the dog for a long walk
then get
> online and play some video games until later, late as possible, they
always
> make me tired. I have high hopes I can succeed at this as I did with
my
> long term smoking habit.
>
>
>

rosie read n' post
08-16-2005, 11:50 AM
>
> tomorrow I am going to the libary at lunch, they are holding Living
Sober
> for me and another one about Facts and Myths of Alcohol and I was
going to
> look at others. I typically spend my lunchtimes and breaks reading so
I get
> quite a bit done.



LIVING SOBER is a great, great book and required reading as far as i am
concerned!
if you do choose to use AA as a tool, just ignore the "god people" and
look for a higher power of your own understanding.

when i started in AA i knew that the HP of my choice wasn't me!
:)

stuart
08-16-2005, 12:12 PM
"rosie read n' post" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:qXnMe.34293$3S5.13607@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
>>
>> tomorrow I am going to the libary at lunch, they are holding Living
> Sober
>> for me and another one about Facts and Myths of Alcohol and I was
> going to
>> look at others. I typically spend my lunchtimes and breaks reading so
> I get
>> quite a bit done.
>
>
>
> LIVING SOBER is a great, great book and required reading as far as i am
> concerned!
> if you do choose to use AA as a tool, just ignore the "god people" and
> look for a higher power of your own understanding.
>
> when i started in AA i knew that the HP of my choice wasn't me!
> :)

I like Joe and Charlie's idea of finding a power "other than" ourselves.
hey, worked for me:-)

marla
08-16-2005, 12:46 PM
rosie read n' post wrote:
> >
> > tomorrow I am going to the libary at lunch, they are holding Living
> Sober
> > for me and another one about Facts and Myths of Alcohol and I was
> going to
> > look at others. I typically spend my lunchtimes and breaks reading so
> I get
> > quite a bit done.
>
>
>
> LIVING SOBER is a great, great book and required reading as far as i am
> concerned!
> if you do choose to use AA as a tool, just ignore the "god people" and
> look for a higher power of your own understanding.
>
> when i started in AA i knew that the HP of my choice wasn't me!
> :)

I liked that book, too, Rosie. Read it ages (decades?!) ago and
remember liking it's short format, very happy little book and good
intro to AA, which frankly sorta scared me back then (no offense; at
the time I wasn't sure it was for me.) So it help me a lot. I just
finished a fascinating read called My Way Out that has a website
associated with it. Lots of pretty cool stuff happening there, I'm
actually considering the program. I guess I can mention it, since MM
was listed above. (Another program that seems to work for some folks).
This one is www.mywayout.org. I think it's good that people have
options and certainly much of what's out there now (meds,
alternative/holistic therapies, 12-step) are not mutually exclusive of
one another. I've been on this road to recovery for 31 years. Up, down,
and all around. Am finding menopause seems to have introduced a new and
challenging chapter. But it's all a journey, lots of self discovery.
Peace to all. MB

stuart
08-16-2005, 02:14 PM
"marla" <marlawriter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1124210789.976964.307360@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> rosie read n' post wrote:
>> >
>> > tomorrow I am going to the libary at lunch, they are holding Living
>> Sober
>> > for me and another one about Facts and Myths of Alcohol and I was
>> going to
>> > look at others. I typically spend my lunchtimes and breaks reading so
>> I get
>> > quite a bit done.
>>
>>
>>
>> LIVING SOBER is a great, great book and required reading as far as i am
>> concerned!
>> if you do choose to use AA as a tool, just ignore the "god people" and
>> look for a higher power of your own understanding.
>>
>> when i started in AA i knew that the HP of my choice wasn't me!
>> :)
>
> I liked that book, too, Rosie. Read it ages (decades?!) ago and
> remember liking it's short format, very happy little book and good
> intro to AA, which frankly sorta scared me back then (no offense; at
> the time I wasn't sure it was for me.) So it help me a lot. I just
> finished a fascinating read called My Way Out that has a website
> associated with it. Lots of pretty cool stuff happening there, I'm
> actually considering the program. I guess I can mention it, since MM
> was listed above. (Another program that seems to work for some folks).
> This one is www.mywayout.org. I think it's good that people have
> options and certainly much of what's out there now (meds,
> alternative/holistic therapies, 12-step) are not mutually exclusive of
> one another. I've been on this road to recovery for 31 years. Up, down,
> and all around. Am finding menopause seems to have introduced a new and
> challenging chapter. But it's all a journey, lots of self discovery.
> Peace to all. MB

hey thanks for that. it's really refreshing actually see a post from a truly
recovered person. seem we get a lot of sectarian program bashing in here.
they're all good :)

Bobby L
08-17-2005, 06:12 PM
"Crystal" <idontlikeemail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:EW8Me.4229$cg.2328@news02.roc.ny...
> I just have one last question, as I am not going to drink tonight and then
> I'll stop "whining" as someone said.
>
> What are the possible side effects that I might experience over the next
few
> days, weeks, months? Not being able to sleep is going to be a big problem
> for me, at least I think so, but I'm going to try not to dwell on it
> tonight.
>
>

Fact is... we don't know. As to side effects, you may or you may not -- as
some of us did and some of us did not. Why not cross that bridge when you
get to it? What happens if you prepare for insomnia and wind up feeling
lethargic instead. For now you might just act as if you were a catcher at a
ball game. Just one ball at time.

Bobby L

disorderly
09-07-2005, 04:08 PM
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:50:46 GMT, "rosie red n' postal"
<redandpostal@yahoo.com> wrote:

>LIVING SOBER is great, great and required as far as i am
>concerned!
>if you do choose to use AA as a tool, just ignore the "god people" and
>look for a higher powered sedative of your own.


Bet all the cross-posers must have enjoyed this one!

rosie read n' post
09-08-2005, 10:09 AM
LOL!
redandpostal@yahoo.com ?

--

"So many of the people here . . . were underprivileged anyway, so this
is working very well for them."
BARBARA BUSH (former first
lady)




"disorderly" <disorderly@dodgeit.com> wrote in message
news:1126123705.3970feae2ed7a65463dc297103adf931@t eranews...
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:50:46 GMT, "rosie red n' postal"
> <redandpostal@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >LIVING SOBER is great, great and required as far as i am
> >concerned!
> >if you do choose to use AA as a tool, just ignore the "god people"
and
> >look for a higher powered sedative of your own.
>
>
> Bet all the cross-posers must have enjoyed this one!