Mias
07-29-2003, 01:26 AM
Dear Agent Orange
I do not agree with you and would like your reply to the following, which I
repost from a previous reply to you, that was unanswered. This is very
important to me as you base some of your 'findings' on Jung's belief system.
(Not Shrödinger's)
Dear Agent Orange
If I may quote from 'A walk with a white bushman' about Laurens van der Post
by Jean Marc Pottiez ISBN 0-14-010426-7, page 84:
"All this reminds me very much of one of the last letters I ever had from
Jung, when he wrote, 'I cannot define for you what God is. I can only say
that my work has proved empirically that the pattern of God exists in every
man, and that this pattern has at its disposal the greatest of all energies
for transformation and transfiguration of his natural being.'" and then
Laurens goes on '....but we are so intellectually oriented that this seems a
non-rational, even superstitious thing to do because we persist in the
preposterous illusion that we must know rationally, in advance, where we are
going.'
Quite an interesting insight I should say. Africa has come up with some
surprises if one consider that it has only been around a few million years?
Oh hi - by the way - yeah, I am back...thanks for the wake-up call you gave
me...
Kind regards
Mias
14 years clean and sober and enjoying every second!
"Agent_Orange" <agent_orange@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
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> "Mouse" <notlikely@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<bc3d32762da2d659bcf0d97e46a389fc@news.meganetnews. com>...
> > Hi JJ....good luck.
> >
> > It seems that you are 54 years old and you are now thinking that
"strength
> > and resolve" is going to solve the problem. Did you get more powerful
as
> > you got older? How is your control of your behavior?
> >
>
> Actually, lots of people do get stronger as they get
> older. It's called "learning".
>
>
> * agent_orange@linuxmail.org *
> * AA and Recovery Cult Debunking *
> * http://aorange1.tripod.com/ *
> * Heisenberg said, "I'm not really sure if *
> * that even was Shrödinger's cat. I think *
> * he might have used somebody else's cat..." *
"Agent_Orange" <agent_orange@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
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> Today, the A.A. campaign of misinformation continues
> even in the halls of Congress:
>
> "As the fabulously successful twelve-step program pioneered
> by Alcoholics Anonymous has conclusively demonstrated, one
> cannot tackle a crisis until acknowledging the reality of a
> genuine problem."
> -- Statement of John C. Hulsman, Ph..D. Research Fellow for
> European Affairs, the Davis Institute for International
> Studies, The Heritage Foundation. Committee on House
> International Relations Europe Subcommittee June 11, 2003.
>
> I sincerely hope Mr. Hulsman knows more about foreign
> affairs than he knows about alcoholism treatment programs,
> or else we are liable to find ourselves in a quagmire of
> unwinnable foreign wars...
>
> * Agent Orange *
> * agent_orange@linuxmail.org *
> * AA and Recovery Cult Debunking *
> * http://aorange1.tripod.com/ *
> * True infomation, human intelligence, *
> * and Reason are the mortal enemies of *
> * cult leaders... *
I do not agree with you and would like your reply to the following, which I
repost from a previous reply to you, that was unanswered. This is very
important to me as you base some of your 'findings' on Jung's belief system.
(Not Shrödinger's)
Dear Agent Orange
If I may quote from 'A walk with a white bushman' about Laurens van der Post
by Jean Marc Pottiez ISBN 0-14-010426-7, page 84:
"All this reminds me very much of one of the last letters I ever had from
Jung, when he wrote, 'I cannot define for you what God is. I can only say
that my work has proved empirically that the pattern of God exists in every
man, and that this pattern has at its disposal the greatest of all energies
for transformation and transfiguration of his natural being.'" and then
Laurens goes on '....but we are so intellectually oriented that this seems a
non-rational, even superstitious thing to do because we persist in the
preposterous illusion that we must know rationally, in advance, where we are
going.'
Quite an interesting insight I should say. Africa has come up with some
surprises if one consider that it has only been around a few million years?
Oh hi - by the way - yeah, I am back...thanks for the wake-up call you gave
me...
Kind regards
Mias
14 years clean and sober and enjoying every second!
"Agent_Orange" <agent_orange@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:8e728989.0306201135.4ff04197@posting.google.c om...
> "Mouse" <notlikely@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<bc3d32762da2d659bcf0d97e46a389fc@news.meganetnews. com>...
> > Hi JJ....good luck.
> >
> > It seems that you are 54 years old and you are now thinking that
"strength
> > and resolve" is going to solve the problem. Did you get more powerful
as
> > you got older? How is your control of your behavior?
> >
>
> Actually, lots of people do get stronger as they get
> older. It's called "learning".
>
>
> * agent_orange@linuxmail.org *
> * AA and Recovery Cult Debunking *
> * http://aorange1.tripod.com/ *
> * Heisenberg said, "I'm not really sure if *
> * that even was Shrödinger's cat. I think *
> * he might have used somebody else's cat..." *
"Agent_Orange" <agent_orange@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:8e728989.0307281522.3e5cfee9@posting.google.c om...
> Today, the A.A. campaign of misinformation continues
> even in the halls of Congress:
>
> "As the fabulously successful twelve-step program pioneered
> by Alcoholics Anonymous has conclusively demonstrated, one
> cannot tackle a crisis until acknowledging the reality of a
> genuine problem."
> -- Statement of John C. Hulsman, Ph..D. Research Fellow for
> European Affairs, the Davis Institute for International
> Studies, The Heritage Foundation. Committee on House
> International Relations Europe Subcommittee June 11, 2003.
>
> I sincerely hope Mr. Hulsman knows more about foreign
> affairs than he knows about alcoholism treatment programs,
> or else we are liable to find ourselves in a quagmire of
> unwinnable foreign wars...
>
> * Agent Orange *
> * agent_orange@linuxmail.org *
> * AA and Recovery Cult Debunking *
> * http://aorange1.tripod.com/ *
> * True infomation, human intelligence, *
> * and Reason are the mortal enemies of *
> * cult leaders... *