PDA

View Full Version : The Big Lie PR technique, part 4


Agent_Orange
07-28-2003, 06:20 PM
This "review" of the Big Book Alcoholics Anonymous was
published in The New York Times in 1939. It was actually
written by a hidden A.A. true believer -- Percy Hutchison
-- not by a neutral observer or dispassionate critic:

"Lest this title should arouse the risibles in any reader let me state that
the general thesis of "Alcoholics Anonymous" is more soundly based
psychologically than any other treatment of the subject I have ever come
upon.
....
"Alcoholics Anonymous" is unlike any other book ever before
published. No reviewer can say how many have contributed
to its pages. But the list of writers should include
addicts and doctors, psychiatrists and clergymen.
....
"Here, then, is the key to "Alcoholics Anonymous," the great
and indisputable lesson this extraordinary book would
convey. The alcoholic addict ... cannot, by any effort of
what he calls his "will," insure himself against taking his
"first dose." We saw how the chap with his whiskey in milk
missed out. There is one way for our authors, and but one
way. The utter suffusion of the mind by an idea which shall
exclude any idea of alcohol or of drugs.
....
"The thesis of the book is, if we read it aright, that this
all-embracing and all-commanding idea must be religious.
.... There is no suggestion advanced in the book that an
addict should embrace one faith rather than another. He may
fall back upon an "absolute," or "A Power which makes for
righteousness" if he chooses. The point of the book is that
he is unlikely to win through unless he floods his mind
with the idea of a force outside himself. So doing, his
individual problem resolves into thin air. In last
analysis, it is the resigning word: Not my will, but Thine,
be done, said in the full knowledge of the fact that the
decision will be against further addiction.
....
"The argument, as we have said, has a deep psychological
foundation."

-- BOOK REVIEW, NEW YORK TIMES, June 25, 1939. ALCOHOLIC
EXPERIENCE, By Percy Hutchison

Faith healing is not "soundly based psychologically", and
it does not have "a deep psychological foundation".
Nevertheless, the A.A. true believers persistently claim
that it does, even while they simultaneously brag that A.A.
is not based on science. See:
http://aorange1.tripod.com/orange-cult_a0.html#unscientific_doctors
and
http://aorange1.tripod.com/orange-cult_a0.html#ca_irrationality

And they have been doing that for 64 years now. That's the
Big Lie technique. Just never stop telling the lie, no
matter how absurd and contradictory it is..

By the way, Percy Hutchison was *the poetry editor* of The
New York Times. What does a poetry editor know about
medicine, alcoholism, or human psychology? How could
Hutchison claim to know that the problem of alcoholism
would just "resolve into thin air" if an alcoholic followed
Bill Wilson's instructions? What was Hutchison doing
reviewing a book about a new cure for alcoholism, and
recommending one treatment program over another? When did
he become qualified to advise the public about critical
life-or-death medical issues like alcoholism? Isn't that
the job of the medical editor or the science editor?

Let me guess -- Hutchison suggested the book and
volunteered to review it because he really wanted people to
hear about a wonderful new fellowship that had a magical
new treatment program for alcoholism...

The June 1940 financial report of "Works Publishing" says
that the original New York A.A. group used the New York
Times Book Review and several other media outlets to
publicize and tout the newly-printed Big Book for free.
Obviously, that so-called "book review" was a very biased
piece of promotional propaganda, not a fair, objective
analysis of the Alcoholics Anonymous program or the A.A.
book. See:
http://aorange1.tripod.com/orange-june40.html#pg5

That's the Big Lie technique -- just keep saying it, over
and over and over again, as often as you can, and in as
many places as you can.

* Agent Orange *
* agent_orange@linuxmail.org *
* AA and Recovery Cult Debunking *
* http://aorange1.tripod.com/ *
* True infomation, human intelligence, *
* and Reason are the mortal enemies of *
* cult leaders... *

Mias
07-29-2003, 01:26 AM
Dear Agent Orange
I do not agree with you and would like your reply to the following, which I
repost from a previous reply to you, that was unanswered. This is very
important to me as you base some of your 'findings' on Jung's belief system.
(Not Shrödinger's)

Dear Agent Orange
If I may quote from 'A walk with a white bushman' about Laurens van der Post
by Jean Marc Pottiez ISBN 0-14-010426-7, page 84:
"All this reminds me very much of one of the last letters I ever had from
Jung, when he wrote, 'I cannot define for you what God is. I can only say
that my work has proved empirically that the pattern of God exists in every
man, and that this pattern has at its disposal the greatest of all energies
for transformation and transfiguration of his natural being.'" and then
Laurens goes on '....but we are so intellectually oriented that this seems a
non-rational, even superstitious thing to do because we persist in the
preposterous illusion that we must know rationally, in advance, where we are
going.'
Quite an interesting insight I should say. Africa has come up with some
surprises if one consider that it has only been around a few million years?
Oh hi - by the way - yeah, I am back...thanks for the wake-up call you gave
me...
Kind regards
Mias
14 years clean and sober and enjoying every second!
"Agent_Orange" <agent_orange@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:8e728989.0306201135.4ff04197@posting.google.c om...
> "Mouse" <notlikely@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<bc3d32762da2d659bcf0d97e46a389fc@news.meganetnews. com>...
> > Hi JJ....good luck.
> >
> > It seems that you are 54 years old and you are now thinking that
"strength
> > and resolve" is going to solve the problem. Did you get more powerful
as
> > you got older? How is your control of your behavior?
> >
>
> Actually, lots of people do get stronger as they get
> older. It's called "learning".
>
>
> * agent_orange@linuxmail.org *
> * AA and Recovery Cult Debunking *
> * http://aorange1.tripod.com/ *
> * Heisenberg said, "I'm not really sure if *
> * that even was Shrödinger's cat. I think *
> * he might have used somebody else's cat..." *


"Agent_Orange" <agent_orange@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:8e728989.0307281522.3e5cfee9@posting.google.c om...
> Today, the A.A. campaign of misinformation continues
> even in the halls of Congress:
>
> "As the fabulously successful twelve-step program pioneered
> by Alcoholics Anonymous has conclusively demonstrated, one
> cannot tackle a crisis until acknowledging the reality of a
> genuine problem."
> -- Statement of John C. Hulsman, Ph..D. Research Fellow for
> European Affairs, the Davis Institute for International
> Studies, The Heritage Foundation. Committee on House
> International Relations Europe Subcommittee June 11, 2003.
>
> I sincerely hope Mr. Hulsman knows more about foreign
> affairs than he knows about alcoholism treatment programs,
> or else we are liable to find ourselves in a quagmire of
> unwinnable foreign wars...
>
> * Agent Orange *
> * agent_orange@linuxmail.org *
> * AA and Recovery Cult Debunking *
> * http://aorange1.tripod.com/ *
> * True infomation, human intelligence, *
> * and Reason are the mortal enemies of *
> * cult leaders... *
"Agent_Orange" <agent_orange@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:8e728989.0307281520.d5aa0b4@posting.google.co m...
> This "review" of the Big Book Alcoholics Anonymous was
> published in The New York Times in 1939. It was actually
> written by a hidden A.A. true believer -- Percy Hutchison
> -- not by a neutral observer or dispassionate critic:
>
> "Lest this title should arouse the risibles in any reader let me state
that
> the general thesis of "Alcoholics Anonymous" is more soundly based
> psychologically than any other treatment of the subject I have ever come
> upon.
> ...
> "Alcoholics Anonymous" is unlike any other book ever before
> published. No reviewer can say how many have contributed
> to its pages. But the list of writers should include
> addicts and doctors, psychiatrists and clergymen.
> ...
> "Here, then, is the key to "Alcoholics Anonymous," the great
> and indisputable lesson this extraordinary book would
> convey. The alcoholic addict ... cannot, by any effort of
> what he calls his "will," insure himself against taking his
> "first dose." We saw how the chap with his whiskey in milk
> missed out. There is one way for our authors, and but one
> way. The utter suffusion of the mind by an idea which shall
> exclude any idea of alcohol or of drugs.
> ...
> "The thesis of the book is, if we read it aright, that this
> all-embracing and all-commanding idea must be religious.
> ... There is no suggestion advanced in the book that an
> addict should embrace one faith rather than another. He may
> fall back upon an "absolute," or "A Power which makes for
> righteousness" if he chooses. The point of the book is that
> he is unlikely to win through unless he floods his mind
> with the idea of a force outside himself. So doing, his
> individual problem resolves into thin air. In last
> analysis, it is the resigning word: Not my will, but Thine,
> be done, said in the full knowledge of the fact that the
> decision will be against further addiction.
> ...
> "The argument, as we have said, has a deep psychological
> foundation."
>
> -- BOOK REVIEW, NEW YORK TIMES, June 25, 1939. ALCOHOLIC
> EXPERIENCE, By Percy Hutchison
>
> Faith healing is not "soundly based psychologically", and
> it does not have "a deep psychological foundation".
> Nevertheless, the A.A. true believers persistently claim
> that it does, even while they simultaneously brag that A.A.
> is not based on science. See:
> http://aorange1.tripod.com/orange-cult_a0.html#unscientific_doctors
> and
> http://aorange1.tripod.com/orange-cult_a0.html#ca_irrationality
>
> And they have been doing that for 64 years now. That's the
> Big Lie technique. Just never stop telling the lie, no
> matter how absurd and contradictory it is..
>
> By the way, Percy Hutchison was *the poetry editor* of The
> New York Times. What does a poetry editor know about
> medicine, alcoholism, or human psychology? How could
> Hutchison claim to know that the problem of alcoholism
> would just "resolve into thin air" if an alcoholic followed
> Bill Wilson's instructions? What was Hutchison doing
> reviewing a book about a new cure for alcoholism, and
> recommending one treatment program over another? When did
> he become qualified to advise the public about critical
> life-or-death medical issues like alcoholism? Isn't that
> the job of the medical editor or the science editor?
>
> Let me guess -- Hutchison suggested the book and
> volunteered to review it because he really wanted people to
> hear about a wonderful new fellowship that had a magical
> new treatment program for alcoholism...
>
> The June 1940 financial report of "Works Publishing" says
> that the original New York A.A. group used the New York
> Times Book Review and several other media outlets to
> publicize and tout the newly-printed Big Book for free.
> Obviously, that so-called "book review" was a very biased
> piece of promotional propaganda, not a fair, objective
> analysis of the Alcoholics Anonymous program or the A.A.
> book. See:
> http://aorange1.tripod.com/orange-june40.html#pg5
>
> That's the Big Lie technique -- just keep saying it, over
> and over and over again, as often as you can, and in as
> many places as you can.
>
> * Agent Orange *
> * agent_orange@linuxmail.org *
> * AA and Recovery Cult Debunking *
> * http://aorange1.tripod.com/ *
> * True infomation, human intelligence, *
> * and Reason are the mortal enemies of *
> * cult leaders... *