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alcocure@aol.com
04-07-2005, 07:47 AM
"Phoenix in a Bottle" to be published 30 May 2005 price £16.99 by
Melrose Books.


NEWS RELEASE: Immediate

New book proves alcoholics can recover and drink responsibly again


A new book "Phoenix in a Bottle", due to be published on 30 May,
will prove that alcoholism is not a disease or illness, but a behaviour
problem rooted in childhood, which alcoholics can correct and be able
to drink responsibly again if and when they so wish.

The authors are former alcoholics Lilian and Murdoch MacDonald, a
married couple from Ayr, Ayrshire in Scotland.

Lilian and Murdoch's lives were devastated by alcoholism, but they
have now recovered so completely that they now not only lead normal
lives again, but are also able to drink in a perfectly sociable manner
once more.

That goes against the teaching of Alcoholics Anonymous, and of many
alcoholism treatment centres throughout the world. But Lilian (61) and
Murdoch (58) believe that lifelong sobriety is not the solution to
alcoholism, as this only treats the symptoms and not the causes of the
problem, and is merely a damage limitation exercise.

The couple argue that alcoholism, in common with other self-harming
disorders like bulimia, anorexia and self-mutilation, often stems from
problems experienced in childhood. And if these problems can be
identified and properly addressed, then the problem behaviour can be
cured.

Ten years ago the couple had hit rock bottom, sleeping rough for two
weeks on the streets of Cambridge, where a quarter of a century
previously as an undergraduate Murdoch had received an honours degree
in English Literature. They had moved to Cambridge from Ayr with the
idea of Murdoch doing research for a doctorate, but had reverted to
their old habits, started binge drinking, and been thrown out of their
lodgings.

After a fortnight, and when they were just about at the end of their
tether, two nurses on their way home after a Saturday night out took
pity on Lilian and Murdoch, bought them a cup of tea and found them a
place in a homeless hostel.

They spent the next twelve months there getting to the roots of their
alcoholism. They tried AA one last time, before concluding that it was
a quasi-religious cult whose ideas on alcoholism were inadequate and
outdated.

Instead, by reading psychology, they decided that the causes of their
alcoholic behaviour lay in problems experienced during childhood. And
that once these problems were realised and addressed, there was no
longer any need for escape through alcoholism, and they could even
drink normally like other people again.

Ten years after selling newspapers from a stand in Market Square,
Cambridge, so that he and Lilian could get back on their feet
financially, Murdoch now writes business and financial articles for
three local weekly papers and also runs his own public relations
consultancy.

And Lilian is so keen to pass on the benefits of their experience to
others who still have problems with alcohol, that together the couple
wrote "Phoenix in a Bottle".

Eminent American addiction expert Dr Stanton Peele PhD has read the
book, and commented:

"Phoenix in a Bottle is a modern version of The Days of Wine and
Roses, and tells the true story of how two people who entered a period
of desperate drinking stayed with one another in a close loving
relationship, and emerged from their alcoholism able to drink
responsibly again.

"Both a wonderful love story and a challenge to conventional wisdom
about how people can recover from drinking problems, Phoenix in a
Bottle gives people hope, and helps them to confront their own demons -
alcohol or otherwise."

"Phoenix in a Bottle" by Lilian and Murdoch MacDonald will be
published by Melrose Books price £16.99 on 30 May.

Enquiries:

Ross Hilton
Commissioning Editor
Melrose Books
St Thomas Place
ELY
Cambridgeshire
CB7 4GG
Telephone: 00 44 1353 646608
E-mail: rosshilton@melrosebooks.co.uk

Web: www.melrosebooks.com

Issued by Fame Publicity Services.

Fame Publicity Services
10 Miller Road
AYR, Ayrshire
Scotland KA7 2AY
Tel.: 00 44 1292 281498
Mobile: 07833 667322.
E-mail: famepublicity@aol.com


Web: www.famepublicity.co.uk

Lilian and Murdoch's website:
www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com

Melrose Books website:
www.melrosebooks.com

Dr Stanton Peele's website:
www.peele.net




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ByTor
04-07-2005, 08:12 AM
In article <1112878024.739617.310180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>,
alcocure@aol.com, says...

> "Phoenix in a Bottle" to be published 30 May 2005 price £16.99 by
> Melrose Books.

<snip psychobabble nonsense>

I wonder if this author is a lobbyists for the alcohol
industry..........

jim
04-07-2005, 12:51 PM
Take your book and shove it!
"ByTor" <ByTor@snowdog.com> wrote in message
news:zja5e.21480$Xf1.9558@fe06.usenetserver.com...
In article <1112878024.739617.310180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>,
alcocure@aol.com, says...

> "Phoenix in a Bottle" to be published 30 May 2005 price £16.99 by
> Melrose Books.

<snip psychobabble nonsense>

I wonder if this author is a lobbyists for the alcohol
industry..........

Gregg
04-07-2005, 02:38 PM
I am very open minded about recovery and methodology. This however is a
joke. There is no proof. Merely an attempt to profit off of others
misery. If there were a possible way to prove I could modify my behavior
and drink normally, I assure you it would have been proven years ago.
For me it is and always be impossible, not matter what. I don't no about
the rest of the people on the planet, but I suspect there are quite a
few others like me.

Gregg

jim wrote:
> Take your book and shove it!
> "ByTor" <ByTor@snowdog.com> wrote in message
> news:zja5e.21480$Xf1.9558@fe06.usenetserver.com...
> In article <1112878024.739617.310180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>,
> alcocure@aol.com, says...
>
>
>>"Phoenix in a Bottle" to be published 30 May 2005 price £16.99 by
>>Melrose Books.
>
>
> <snip psychobabble nonsense>
>
> I wonder if this author is a lobbyists for the alcohol
> industry..........
>
>

DaveB
04-07-2005, 02:59 PM
On 7 Apr 2005 05:47:04 -0700, alcocure@aol.com wrote:

>"Phoenix in a Bottle" to be published 30 May 2005 price =A316.99 by
>Melrose Books.
>
>
>NEWS RELEASE: Immediate
>
>New book proves alcoholics can recover and drink responsibly again
>
>
>A new book "Phoenix in a Bottle", due to be published on 30 May,
>will prove that alcoholism is not a disease or illness, but a behaviour
>problem rooted in childhood, which alcoholics can correct and be able
>to drink responsibly again if and when they so wish.
>
>The authors are former alcoholics Lilian and Murdoch MacDonald, a
>married couple from Ayr, Ayrshire in Scotland.
>
>Lilian and Murdoch's lives were devastated by alcoholism, but they
>have now recovered so completely that they now not only lead normal
>lives again, but are also able to drink in a perfectly sociable manner
>once more.
>
>That goes against the teaching of Alcoholics Anonymous, and of many
>alcoholism treatment centres throughout the world. But Lilian (61) and
>Murdoch (58) believe that lifelong sobriety is not the solution to
>alcoholism, as this only treats the symptoms and not the causes of the
>problem, and is merely a damage limitation exercise.
>
>The couple argue that alcoholism, in common with other self-harming
>disorders like bulimia, anorexia and self-mutilation, often stems from
>problems experienced in childhood. And if these problems can be
>identified and properly addressed, then the problem behaviour can be
>cured.
>
>Ten years ago the couple had hit rock bottom, sleeping rough for two
>weeks on the streets of Cambridge, where a quarter of a century
>previously as an undergraduate Murdoch had received an honours degree
>in English Literature. They had moved to Cambridge from Ayr with the
>idea of Murdoch doing research for a doctorate, but had reverted to
>their old habits, started binge drinking, and been thrown out of their
>lodgings.
>
>After a fortnight, and when they were just about at the end of their
>tether, two nurses on their way home after a Saturday night out took
>pity on Lilian and Murdoch, bought them a cup of tea and found them a
>place in a homeless hostel.
>
>They spent the next twelve months there getting to the roots of their
>alcoholism. They tried AA one last time, before concluding that it was
>a quasi-religious cult whose ideas on alcoholism were inadequate and
>outdated.
>
>Instead, by reading psychology, they decided that the causes of their
>alcoholic behaviour lay in problems experienced during childhood. And
>that once these problems were realised and addressed, there was no
>longer any need for escape through alcoholism, and they could even
>drink normally like other people again.
>
>Ten years after selling newspapers from a stand in Market Square,
>Cambridge, so that he and Lilian could get back on their feet
>financially, Murdoch now writes business and financial articles for
>three local weekly papers and also runs his own public relations
>consultancy.
>
>And Lilian is so keen to pass on the benefits of their experience to
>others who still have problems with alcohol, that together the couple
>wrote "Phoenix in a Bottle".
>
>Eminent American addiction expert Dr Stanton Peele PhD has read the
>book, and commented:
>
>"Phoenix in a Bottle is a modern version of The Days of Wine and
>Roses, and tells the true story of how two people who entered a period
>of desperate drinking stayed with one another in a close loving
>relationship, and emerged from their alcoholism able to drink
>responsibly again.
>
>"Both a wonderful love story and a challenge to conventional wisdom
>about how people can recover from drinking problems, Phoenix in a
>Bottle gives people hope, and helps them to confront their own demons -
>alcohol or otherwise."
>
>"Phoenix in a Bottle" by Lilian and Murdoch MacDonald will be
>published by Melrose Books price =A316.99 on 30 May.
>
>Enquiries:
>
>Ross Hilton
>Commissioning Editor
>Melrose Books
>St Thomas Place
>ELY
>Cambridgeshire
>CB7 4GG
>Telephone: 00 44 1353 646608
>E-mail: rosshilton@melrosebooks.co.uk
>
>Web: www.melrosebooks.com
>
>Issued by Fame Publicity Services.
>
>Fame Publicity Services
>10 Miller Road
>AYR, Ayrshire
>Scotland KA7 2AY
>Tel.: 00 44 1292 281498
>Mobile: 07833 667322.
>E-mail: famepublicity@aol.com
>
>
>Web: www.famepublicity.co.uk
>
>Lilian and Murdoch's website:
>www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com
>
>Melrose Books website:
>www.melrosebooks.com
>
>Dr Stanton Peele's website:
>www.peele.net
>
>
>
>
>Web links:
>
>http://i-newswire.com/pr8494.html
>
>http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/view_release.php?rID=3D3788&tf7sid=3Dce8a54=
>7a08c7011ff861cc4134c30ef1
>
>http://www.theopenpress.com/index.php?a=3Dpress&id=3D799
>
>http://www.famepublicity.co.uk/productssimple1.html
>
>http://www.kntimes.com/knreleases/fullstory03054-insight-news-status-1-news=
>ID-61.html
>
>http://www.pressbox.co.uk/Detailed/24330.html
>
>http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/2/prweb213026.htm
>
>http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2005/2/prweb213026.htm
>
>http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AlcoholicsCanDrinkSafelyAgain/message/=
>


I will be sure to tell my brother that is living on the street about
this book.

If he cant afford it maybe a free meeting of N/A might work.

Regards
>

Daveb

w8888asecccc_NutSoFast@hotmail.com
04-07-2005, 03:02 PM
Has the author written anything about male-enhancement?
Or male-pattern baldness? Obesity? Now those I'd buy!


(Ahhh errrr - I meant the bald and fat ones)


--
NutSo

"Education is important... but Imagination is Everything!"
[A. Einstein]

stuart
04-07-2005, 03:07 PM
<w8888asecccc_NutSoFast@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jlg5e.2350$nn5.196@okepread06...
> Has the author written anything about male-enhancement?
> Or male-pattern baldness? Obesity? Now those I'd buy!
>
>
> (Ahhh errrr - I meant the bald and fat ones)
>
>
> --
> NutSo

They do have penis reduction surgery available


>
> "Education is important... but Imagination is Everything!"
> [A. Einstein]

w8888asecccc_NutSoFast@hotmail.com
04-07-2005, 03:10 PM
On 7-Apr-2005, "stuart" <ggo@feds.org> wrote:

> They do have penis reduction surgery available

No one likes a braggart!

--
NutSo

"Education is important... but Imagination is Everything!"
[A. Einstein]

stuart
04-08-2005, 12:55 PM
<w8888asecccc_NutSoFast@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tsg5e.2351$nn5.293@okepread06...
>
> On 7-Apr-2005, "stuart" <ggo@feds.org> wrote:
>
>> They do have penis reduction surgery available
>
> No one likes a braggart!

You don't have to tell anybody about it do you?
>
> --
> NutSo
>
> "Education is important... but Imagination is Everything!"
> [A. Einstein]

Savik
04-08-2005, 06:25 PM
<alcocure@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1112878024.739617.310180@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
"Phoenix in a Bottle" to be published 30 May 2005 price £16.99 by
Melrose Books.


NEWS RELEASE: Immediate

New book proves alcoholics can recover and drink responsibly again


A new book "Phoenix in a Bottle", due to be published on 30 May,
will prove that alcoholism is not a disease or illness, but a behaviour
problem rooted in childhood, which alcoholics can correct and be able
to drink responsibly again if and when they so wish.

The authors are former alcoholics Lilian and Murdoch MacDonald, a
married couple from Ayr, Ayrshire in Scotland.

Lilian and Murdoch's lives were devastated by alcoholism, but they
have now recovered so completely that they now not only lead normal
lives again, but are also able to drink in a perfectly sociable manner
once more.

That goes against the teaching of Alcoholics Anonymous, and of many
alcoholism treatment centres throughout the world. But Lilian (61) and
Murdoch (58) believe that lifelong sobriety is not the solution to
alcoholism, as this only treats the symptoms and not the causes of the
problem, and is merely a damage limitation exercise.

The couple argue that alcoholism, in common with other self-harming
disorders like bulimia, anorexia and self-mutilation, often stems from
problems experienced in childhood. And if these problems can be
identified and properly addressed, then the problem behaviour can be
cured.

Ten years ago the couple had hit rock bottom, sleeping rough for two
weeks on the streets of Cambridge, where a quarter of a century
previously as an undergraduate Murdoch had received an honours degree
in English Literature. They had moved to Cambridge from Ayr with the
idea of Murdoch doing research for a doctorate, but had reverted to
their old habits, started binge drinking, and been thrown out of their
lodgings.

After a fortnight, and when they were just about at the end of their
tether, two nurses on their way home after a Saturday night out took
pity on Lilian and Murdoch, bought them a cup of tea and found them a
place in a homeless hostel.

They spent the next twelve months there getting to the roots of their
alcoholism. They tried AA one last time, before concluding that it was
a quasi-religious cult whose ideas on alcoholism were inadequate and
outdated.

Instead, by reading psychology, they decided that the causes of their
alcoholic behaviour lay in problems experienced during childhood. And
that once these problems were realised and addressed, there was no
longer any need for escape through alcoholism, and they could even
drink normally like other people again.

Ten years after selling newspapers from a stand in Market Square,
Cambridge, so that he and Lilian could get back on their feet
financially, Murdoch now writes business and financial articles for
three local weekly papers and also runs his own public relations
consultancy.

And Lilian is so keen to pass on the benefits of their experience to
others who still have problems with alcohol, that together the couple
wrote "Phoenix in a Bottle".

Eminent American addiction expert Dr Stanton Peele PhD has read the
book, and commented:

"Phoenix in a Bottle is a modern version of The Days of Wine and
Roses, and tells the true story of how two people who entered a period
of desperate drinking stayed with one another in a close loving
relationship, and emerged from their alcoholism able to drink
responsibly again.

"Both a wonderful love story and a challenge to conventional wisdom
about how people can recover from drinking problems, Phoenix in a
Bottle gives people hope, and helps them to confront their own demons -
alcohol or otherwise."

<SNIP all the publicity garbarge>

How can a book about two people's personal experience 'prove' anything? All
it does is say that these two people think they have got the drinking habit
beaten. It does NOT prove that their drinking is 'normal' - just that their
drinking is not causing THEM any problems at the present time. All the
alcoholics I know use this 'normal drinking' argument to rationalise their
return to old habits - and for a time we can appear to drink in moderation.
But as time passes - could be days, weeks, months, or even years - the
amount that we consider to be moderate will increase until we are no longer
in control. All this book proves is that these poor people are deluding
themselves - they are not cured, they are merely justifying their decision
to start drinking again.

w8888asecccc_NutSoFast@hotmail.com
04-10-2005, 08:42 AM
On 8-Apr-2005, "stuart" <ggo@feds.org> wrote:

> You don't have to tell anybody about it do you?

Sorry Stuart but I think you need to toot your own horn about that...

--
NutSo