Feel like a big loser

[Perkowski]

Ive been drinking heavly lately. Im basically broke, lost a bunch of
jobs to a bigger company, and top off that I have anxiety/PA problems.
If I drink more during the drinking I feel better, next day without
booze is a nightmare. Yesterday, about 530pm just started boozing and
had 3 beers, and a friend ask me to drive him up for a pack of smokes.
I wasnt bombed or anything (and know its completely wrong to drive
buzzed at all), well long story short I got pulled over and the guy made
me take a breathlizer test. I passed it just barely under the limit he
says, and than he made me take a moving pen test. I passed that. The
guy wrote me out a seatbelt ticket and told me to go home. I hit the
jackpot yesterday. I was very luckly.

Anyhow, I feel like a real loser today about this and just venting here.
I try to talk to my friends about why I drink so much
(anxiety/depression) and I KNOW alcohol makes its much worse, but, I in
the drinking so much these past 3 weeks. The next day if I dont have a
beer or something I lose it. Which I guess Im getting alcohol
withdrawals or something.

I dont think I can do the AA thing because of my anxiety/PA just yet.
If I didnt have the anxiety/PA I doubt I would drink as much, because
frankly it sucks bigtime.

I am going to stop drinking today and try to dry myself out. It take me
3-4 days to feel decent again.

Sorry for blabbering, I just needed to vent a bit.

Joe

[rosie read n' post]

"Perkowski" <perkowski1@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:QRd1e.696$ZF5.98@fe11.lga...
: Ive been drinking heavly lately. Im basically broke, lost a bunch
of
: jobs to a bigger company, and top off that I have anxiety/PA
problems.
: If I drink more during the drinking I feel better, next day
without
: booze is a nightmare. Yesterday, about 530pm just started boozing
and
: had 3 beers, and a friend ask me to drive him up for a pack of
smokes.
: I wasnt bombed or anything (and know its completely wrong to drive
: buzzed at all), well long story short I got pulled over and the
guy made
: me take a breathlizer test. I passed it just barely under the
limit he
: says, and than he made me take a moving pen test. I passed that.
The
: guy wrote me out a seatbelt ticket and told me to go home. I hit
the
: jackpot yesterday. I was very luckly.
:
: Anyhow, I feel like a real loser today about this and just venting
here.
: I try to talk to my friends about why I drink so much
: (anxiety/depression) and I KNOW alcohol makes its much worse, but,
I in
: the drinking so much these past 3 weeks. The next day if I dont
have a
: beer or something I lose it. Which I guess Im getting alcohol
: withdrawals or something.
:
: I dont think I can do the AA thing because of my anxiety/PA just
yet.
: If I didnt have the anxiety/PA I doubt I would drink as much,
because
: frankly it sucks bigtime.
:
: I am going to stop drinking today and try to dry myself out. It
take me
: 3-4 days to feel decent again.
:
: Sorry for blabbering, I just needed to vent a bit.
:
: Joe

joe,
your welcome to "blabber" here anytime!
have you talked about this with your doctor?
treatment for your anxiety disorder, might help you to attain some
sobriety.
rosie

[stuart]

"Perkowski" <perkowski1@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:QRd1e.696$ZF5.98@fe11.lga...
> Ive been drinking heavly lately. Im basically broke, lost a bunch of jobs
> to a bigger company, and top off that I have anxiety/PA problems.
> If I drink more during the drinking I feel better, next day without booze
> is a nightmare. Yesterday, about 530pm just started boozing and
> had 3 beers, and a friend ask me to drive him up for a pack of smokes.
> I wasnt bombed or anything (and know its completely wrong to drive buzzed
> at all), well long story short I got pulled over and the guy made
> me take a breathlizer test. I passed it just barely under the limit he
> says, and than he made me take a moving pen test. I passed that. The guy
> wrote me out a seatbelt ticket and told me to go home. I hit the jackpot
> yesterday. I was very luckly.
>
> Anyhow, I feel like a real loser today about this and just venting here.
> I try to talk to my friends about why I drink so much (anxiety/depression)
> and I KNOW alcohol makes its much worse, but, I in the drinking so much
> these past 3 weeks. The next day if I dont have a beer or something I
> lose it. Which I guess Im getting alcohol withdrawals or something.
>
> I dont think I can do the AA thing because of my anxiety/PA just yet. If I
> didnt have the anxiety/PA I doubt I would drink as much, because frankly
> it sucks bigtime.

Can't do the AA thing because of anxiety? But you damn near did the fucking
jail thingy. Fuck off and use your head for something other than a hat rack.


>
> I am going to stop drinking today and try to dry myself out. It take me
> 3-4 days to feel decent again.
>
> Sorry for blabbering, I just needed to vent a bit.
>
> Joe

[Scott W.]

In article <y9g1e.76981$ZO2.19023@edtnps84>, ggo@feds.org says...
>
> "Perkowski" <perkowski1@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:QRd1e.696$ZF5.98@fe11.lga...
> > Ive been drinking heavly lately. Im basically broke, lost a bunch of jobs
> > to a bigger company, and top off that I have anxiety/PA problems.
> > If I drink more during the drinking I feel better, next day without booze
> > is a nightmare. Yesterday, about 530pm just started boozing and
> > had 3 beers, and a friend ask me to drive him up for a pack of smokes.
> > I wasnt bombed or anything (and know its completely wrong to drive buzzed
> > at all), well long story short I got pulled over and the guy made
> > me take a breathlizer test. I passed it just barely under the limit he
> > says, and than he made me take a moving pen test. I passed that. The guy
> > wrote me out a seatbelt ticket and told me to go home. I hit the jackpot
> > yesterday. I was very luckly.
> >
> > Anyhow, I feel like a real loser today about this and just venting here.
> > I try to talk to my friends about why I drink so much (anxiety/depression)
> > and I KNOW alcohol makes its much worse, but, I in the drinking so much
> > these past 3 weeks. The next day if I dont have a beer or something I
> > lose it. Which I guess Im getting alcohol withdrawals or something.
> >
> > I dont think I can do the AA thing because of my anxiety/PA just yet. If I
> > didnt have the anxiety/PA I doubt I would drink as much, because frankly
> > it sucks bigtime.
>
> Can't do the AA thing because of anxiety? But you damn near did the fucking
> jail thingy. Fuck off and use your head for something other than a hat rack.
>
>
> >
> > I am going to stop drinking today and try to dry myself out. It take me
> > 3-4 days to feel decent again.
> >
> > Sorry for blabbering, I just needed to vent a bit.
> >
> > Joe
>
>
>
AA people are creepy, man. They freak me out bigtime. Stop
using your dick for a place to piss from.
--
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http://scottwitherspoon.blogspot.com/
http://www.geocities.com/woogawooga99

[stuart]

"Scott W." <scottwx897@msn.xxx> wrote in message
news:3alhabF6ct2jaU1@individual.net...
> In article <y9g1e.76981$ZO2.19023@edtnps84>, ggo@feds.org says...
>>
>> "Perkowski" <perkowski1@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:QRd1e.696$ZF5.98@fe11.lga...
>> > Ive been drinking heavly lately. Im basically broke, lost a bunch of
>> > jobs
>> > to a bigger company, and top off that I have anxiety/PA problems.
>> > If I drink more during the drinking I feel better, next day without
>> > booze
>> > is a nightmare. Yesterday, about 530pm just started boozing and
>> > had 3 beers, and a friend ask me to drive him up for a pack of smokes.
>> > I wasnt bombed or anything (and know its completely wrong to drive
>> > buzzed
>> > at all), well long story short I got pulled over and the guy made
>> > me take a breathlizer test. I passed it just barely under the limit he
>> > says, and than he made me take a moving pen test. I passed that. The
>> > guy
>> > wrote me out a seatbelt ticket and told me to go home. I hit the
>> > jackpot
>> > yesterday. I was very luckly.
>> >
>> > Anyhow, I feel like a real loser today about this and just venting
>> > here.
>> > I try to talk to my friends about why I drink so much
>> > (anxiety/depression)
>> > and I KNOW alcohol makes its much worse, but, I in the drinking so much
>> > these past 3 weeks. The next day if I dont have a beer or something I
>> > lose it. Which I guess Im getting alcohol withdrawals or something.
>> >
>> > I dont think I can do the AA thing because of my anxiety/PA just yet.
>> > If I
>> > didnt have the anxiety/PA I doubt I would drink as much, because
>> > frankly
>> > it sucks bigtime.
>>
>> Can't do the AA thing because of anxiety? But you damn near did the
>> fucking
>> jail thingy. Fuck off and use your head for something other than a hat
>> rack.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I am going to stop drinking today and try to dry myself out. It take
>> > me
>> > 3-4 days to feel decent again.
>> >
>> > Sorry for blabbering, I just needed to vent a bit.
>> >
>> > Joe
>>
>>
>>
> AA people are creepy, man. They freak me out bigtime. Stop
> using your dick for a place to piss from.

Good. Go pull the dick off a drunk driver after he's cut off yours with his
car.

> --
> "don't ya worry, we'll all float on alright" MMMMouse
>
> http://scottwitherspoon.blogspot.com/
> http://www.geocities.com/woogawooga99

[Darren]

Perkowski wrote:
> Ive been drinking heavly lately. Im basically broke, lost a bunch of
> jobs to a bigger company, and top off that I have anxiety/PA
> problems. If I drink more during the drinking I feel better, next day
> without booze is a nightmare. Yesterday, about 530pm just started
> boozing and had 3 beers, and a friend ask me to drive him up for a
> pack of smokes. I wasnt bombed or anything (and know its completely
> wrong to drive buzzed at all), well long story short I got pulled
> over and the guy made me take a breathlizer test. I passed it just
> barely under the limit he says, and than he made me take a moving pen
> test. I passed that. The guy wrote me out a seatbelt ticket and
> told me to go home. I hit the jackpot yesterday. I was very luckly.
>
> Anyhow, I feel like a real loser today about this and just venting
> here. I try to talk to my friends about why I drink so much
> (anxiety/depression) and I KNOW alcohol makes its much worse, but, I
> in the drinking so much these past 3 weeks. The next day if I dont
> have a beer or something I lose it. Which I guess Im getting alcohol
> withdrawals or something.
>
> I dont think I can do the AA thing because of my anxiety/PA just yet.
> If I didnt have the anxiety/PA I doubt I would drink as much, because
> frankly it sucks bigtime.
>
> I am going to stop drinking today and try to dry myself out. It take
> me 3-4 days to feel decent again.
>
> Sorry for blabbering, I just needed to vent a bit.
>
> Joe
You're welcome Joe. Blab all you want and ignore any tossers who might give
you abuse.
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[Darren]

stuart wrote:
> Can't do the AA thing because of anxiety? But you damn near did the
> fucking jail thingy. Fuck off and use your head for something other
> than a hat rack.

If people from AA spoke to me like that, I wouldn't do the AA thing either
or at least I would have got the satisfaction of smacking someone in the
mouth for a comment like that.
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Buddhists seek enlightenment. Sobriety and serenity will do for me.

[Darren]

Scott W. wrote:
> In article <y9g1e.76981$ZO2.19023@edtnps84>, ggo@feds.org says...
> AA people are creepy, man. They freak me out bigtime. Stop
> using your dick for a place to piss from.
I freak you out bigtime do I?
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[stuart]

"Darren" <Darren@fake.e-mail.net> wrote in message
news:d244lf$7ij$0@pita.alt.net...
> Perkowski wrote:
>> Ive been drinking heavly lately. Im basically broke, lost a bunch of
>> jobs to a bigger company, and top off that I have anxiety/PA
>> problems. If I drink more during the drinking I feel better, next day
>> without booze is a nightmare. Yesterday, about 530pm just started
>> boozing and had 3 beers, and a friend ask me to drive him up for a
>> pack of smokes. I wasnt bombed or anything (and know its completely
>> wrong to drive buzzed at all), well long story short I got pulled
>> over and the guy made me take a breathlizer test. I passed it just
>> barely under the limit he says, and than he made me take a moving pen
>> test. I passed that. The guy wrote me out a seatbelt ticket and
>> told me to go home. I hit the jackpot yesterday. I was very luckly.
>>
>> Anyhow, I feel like a real loser today about this and just venting
>> here. I try to talk to my friends about why I drink so much
>> (anxiety/depression) and I KNOW alcohol makes its much worse, but, I
>> in the drinking so much these past 3 weeks. The next day if I dont
>> have a beer or something I lose it. Which I guess Im getting alcohol
>> withdrawals or something.
>>
>> I dont think I can do the AA thing because of my anxiety/PA just yet.
>> If I didnt have the anxiety/PA I doubt I would drink as much, because
>> frankly it sucks bigtime.
>>
>> I am going to stop drinking today and try to dry myself out. It take
>> me 3-4 days to feel decent again.
>>
>> Sorry for blabbering, I just needed to vent a bit.
>>
>> Joe
> You're welcome Joe. Blab all you want and ignore any tossers who might
> give
> you abuse.

You needn't worry about others "abusing" Joe. He seems to be doing a pretty
good job of taking care of that chore himself...


> --
> -
> Buddhists seek enlightenment. Sobriety and serenity will do for me.
>
>

[stuart]

"Darren" <Darren@fake.e-mail.net> wrote in message
news:d244p9$7og$0@pita.alt.net...
> stuart wrote:
>> Can't do the AA thing because of anxiety? But you damn near did the
>> fucking jail thingy. Fuck off and use your head for something other
>> than a hat rack.
>
> If people from AA spoke to me like that, I wouldn't do the AA thing either
> or at least I would have got the satisfaction of smacking someone in the
> mouth for a comment like that.

Something you've probably done on a regular basis. Still do, I suspect. My
address is
12915 159 Ave
Edmonton Alberta.

Come and get it. You seem to have a problem with reality and humour also.
eh?

> --
> -
> Buddhists seek enlightenment. Sobriety and serenity will do for me.
>
>

[Scott W.]

In article <d244qp$7r9$0@pita.alt.net>, Darren@fake.e-mail.net says...
> Scott W. wrote:
> > In article <y9g1e.76981$ZO2.19023@edtnps84>, ggo@feds.org says...
> > AA people are creepy, man. They freak me out bigtime. Stop
> > using your dick for a place to piss from.
> I freak you out bigtime do I?
>
Especially you! ;P
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[Darren]

Scott W. wrote:
> In article <d244qp$7r9$0@pita.alt.net>, Darren@fake.e-mail.net says...
>> Scott W. wrote:
>>> In article <y9g1e.76981$ZO2.19023@edtnps84>, ggo@feds.org says...
>>> AA people are creepy, man. They freak me out bigtime. Stop
>>> using your dick for a place to piss from.
>> I freak you out bigtime do I?
>>
> Especially you! ;P
As long as that's clear. :)
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[Darren]

stuart wrote:
> "Darren" <Darren@fake.e-mail.net> wrote in message
> news:d244p9$7og$0@pita.alt.net...
>> stuart wrote:
>>> Can't do the AA thing because of anxiety? But you damn near did the
>>> fucking jail thingy. Fuck off and use your head for something other
>>> than a hat rack.
>>
>> If people from AA spoke to me like that, I wouldn't do the AA thing
>> either or at least I would have got the satisfaction of smacking
>> someone in the mouth for a comment like that.
>
> Something you've probably done on a regular basis. Still do, I
> suspect.
Well I wouldn't say that but i would guess you get smacked in the mouth a
lot.

>My address is
> 12915 159 Ave
> Edmonton Alberta.
What country?
>
> Come and get it. You seem to have a problem with reality and humour
> also. eh?
You call your attitude reality? When I was drinking I had an attitude
problem and I mean a bad one so I guess you remind me of the drunken me. As
for humour, what twisted reality do you call telling someone who's reaching
out to fuck off, humour?
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[Darren]

stuart wrote:
> "Darren" <Darren@fake.e-mail.net> wrote in message
> news:d244lf$7ij$0@pita.alt.net...
>> Perkowski wrote:
>>> Ive been drinking heavly lately. Im basically broke, lost a bunch
>>> of jobs to a bigger company, and top off that I have anxiety/PA
>>> problems. If I drink more during the drinking I feel better, next
>>> day without booze is a nightmare. Yesterday, about 530pm just
>>> started boozing and had 3 beers, and a friend ask me to drive him
>>> up for a pack of smokes. I wasnt bombed or anything (and know its
>>> completely wrong to drive buzzed at all), well long story short I
>>> got pulled over and the guy made me take a breathlizer test. I
>>> passed it just barely under the limit he says, and than he made me
>>> take a moving pen test. I passed that. The guy wrote me out a
>>> seatbelt ticket and told me to go home. I hit the jackpot
>>> yesterday. I was very luckly.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, I feel like a real loser today about this and just venting
>>> here. I try to talk to my friends about why I drink so much
>>> (anxiety/depression) and I KNOW alcohol makes its much worse, but, I
>>> in the drinking so much these past 3 weeks. The next day if I dont
>>> have a beer or something I lose it. Which I guess Im getting
>>> alcohol withdrawals or something.
>>>
>>> I dont think I can do the AA thing because of my anxiety/PA just
>>> yet. If I didnt have the anxiety/PA I doubt I would drink as much,
>>> because frankly it sucks bigtime.
>>>
>>> I am going to stop drinking today and try to dry myself out. It
>>> take me 3-4 days to feel decent again.
>>>
>>> Sorry for blabbering, I just needed to vent a bit.
>>>
>>> Joe
>> You're welcome Joe. Blab all you want and ignore any tossers who
>> might give
>> you abuse.
>
> You needn't worry about others "abusing" Joe. He seems to be doing a
> pretty good job of taking care of that chore himself...
>
Unlike your pearls of wisdom? That's sarcasm BTW.
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[stuart]

Darren <Darren@fake.e-mail.net> wrote in message
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> stuart wrote:
> > "Darren" <Darren@fake.e-mail.net> wrote in message
> > news:d244p9$7og$0@pita.alt.net...
> >> stuart wrote:
> >>> Can't do the AA thing because of anxiety? But you damn near did the
> >>> fucking jail thingy. Fuck off and use your head for something other
> >>> than a hat rack.
> >>
> >> If people from AA spoke to me like that, I wouldn't do the AA thing
> >> either or at least I would have got the satisfaction of smacking
> >> someone in the mouth for a comment like that.
> >
> > Something you've probably done on a regular basis. Still do, I
> > suspect.
> Well I wouldn't say that but i would guess you get smacked in the mouth a
> lot.

Never have. Furthermore I never hit anyone else.

>
> >My address is
> > 12915 159 Ave
> > Edmonton Alberta.
> What country?
> >
> > Come and get it. You seem to have a problem with reality and humour
> > also. eh?
> You call your attitude reality? When I was drinking I had an attitude
> problem and I mean a bad one so I guess you remind me of the drunken me.
As
> for humour, what twisted reality do you call telling someone who's
reaching
> out to fuck off, humour?

You mustn't have take a good hard look at your own drinking bullshit to
understand that this particular poster, who, by the way in case you haven't
noticed, has not been back. Know why? I know why. He came here and described
his "close call" with the cops. He was scared, right? Worried about his
drinking. Well, my friend, remember when? What happened to you after your
"close calls?" You choked on the thought for awhile, maybe even suggested to
yourself, or someone else, you should "do something" about your drinking,
but well, there's a thousand excuses for not actually "doing something"
other than to talk about it briefly, right.
Odds are a thousand to one he is drunk again, right now, possibly even
behind the wheel of a vehicle, and he ain't even read our discussion
I called a stupid, lame brain, gutless drunk, full of bullshit, same as I
was. I don't give a rat's ass if I "scare him off" an AA meeting because you
offer some sort of oblique threat to smoke me in the mouth. I think you are
as passive-aggressive as you could possibly be. If you want to smoke me in
the mouth, I provided you with my address. You kinda veiled your anger by
saying;

"If people from AA spoke to me like that, I wouldn't do the AA thing
either or at least I would have got the satisfaction of smacking
someone in the mouth for a comment like that."

Don't *you* find the alcoholic's bullshit funny? I do, drunk or sober.



> Buddhists seek enlightenment. Sobriety and serenity will do for me.

[Darren]

stuart wrote:
> Darren <Darren@fake.e-mail.net> wrote in message
> news:d24oev$9p8$0@pita.alt.net...
>> stuart wrote:
>>> "Darren" <Darren@fake.e-mail.net> wrote in message
>>> news:d244p9$7og$0@pita.alt.net...
>>>> stuart wrote:
>>>>> Can't do the AA thing because of anxiety? But you damn near did
>>>>> the fucking jail thingy. Fuck off and use your head for something
>>>>> other than a hat rack.
>>>>
>>>> If people from AA spoke to me like that, I wouldn't do the AA thing
>>>> either or at least I would have got the satisfaction of smacking
>>>> someone in the mouth for a comment like that.
>>>
>>> Something you've probably done on a regular basis. Still do, I
>>> suspect.
>> Well I wouldn't say that but I would guess you get smacked in the
>> mouth a lot.
>
> Never have. Furthermore I never hit anyone else.

I guess that means you no longer want me to "come and get it".

>
>>
>>> My address is
>>> 12915 159 Ave
>>> Edmonton Alberta.
>> What country?
>>>
>>> Come and get it. You seem to have a problem with reality and humour
>>> also. eh?
>> You call your attitude reality? When I was drinking I had an attitude
>> problem and I mean a bad one so I guess you remind me of the drunken
>> me. As for humour, what twisted reality do you call telling someone
>> who's reaching out to fuck off, humour?
>
> You mustn't have take a good hard look at your own drinking bullshit
> to understand that this particular poster, who, by the way in case
> you haven't noticed, has not been back.

Oh I had noticed, but my own drinking bullshit is behind me now and I hope
to keep it that way and its all down to the kindness of others, not critical
heartless remarks even if they were well intended.

>Know why?

You scared him off. the poor bastard's probably pissed off his head in a
ditch somewhere

>I know why. He came
> here and described his "close call" with the cops. He was scared,
> right?

Of course he was. Fear is a great driving force. It drove me to become dry.

>Worried about his drinking. Well, my friend, remember when?
> What happened to you after your "close calls?"

What close calls?

>You choked on the
> thought for awhile, maybe even suggested to yourself, or someone
> else, you should "do something" about your drinking,

That only happened once and even then I did it to shut someone up.

>but well,
> there's a thousand excuses for not actually "doing something" other
> than to talk about it briefly, right.
> Odds are a thousand to one he is drunk again, right now, possibly even
> behind the wheel of a vehicle, and he ain't even read our discussion
> I called a stupid, lame brain, gutless drunk, full of bullshit, same
> as I was.

That is not your call! You are doing no one any favours with your attitude.
I should know.

>I don't give a rat's ass if I "scare him off" an AA meeting
That much is obvious.
> because you offer some sort of oblique threat to smoke me in the
> mouth.
I made no threat!
>I think you are as passive-aggressive as you could possibly
> be.

Not at all. I'm usually a peaceful man when sober but you test my patience
and probably would the patience of a saint.

>If you want to smoke me in the mouth, I provided you with my
> address.

You omitted the country.

>You kinda veiled your anger by saying;
>
> "If people from AA spoke to me like that, I wouldn't do the AA thing
> either or at least I would have got the satisfaction of smacking
> someone in the mouth for a comment like that."

Yes that is what I said and that is what I meant, not a threat, not
passive-aggressive bullshit, just the way it is.

>
> Don't *you* find the alcoholic's bullshit funny? I do, drunk or sober.

As one who spouted alcoholic's bullshit when drunk then I can't say I did.

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[Doug]

Self-medicating for Anxiety Disorder and PA's is COMMON. I used to do it
myself. The problem is, it will take more and more alcohol to accomplish it
and you will become addicted. I used to self-medicate w/alcohol. It's not a
long-term solution. There are better meds out there than alcohol. I'd
suggest you look for some professional help for your Anxiety Disorder. If
you don't get some sort of treatment (and not necessarily meds) for your
Anxiety Disorder it will get worse. I've been down that road.

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"Perkowski" <perkowski1@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
> I dont think I can do the AA thing because of my anxiety/PA just yet. If I
> didnt have the anxiety/PA I doubt I would drink as much, because frankly
> it sucks bigtime.
>
> I am going to stop drinking today and try to dry myself out. It take me
> 3-4 days to feel decent again.
>
> Sorry for blabbering, I just needed to vent a bit.
>
> Joe

[Perkowski]

Doug wrote:
> Self-medicating for Anxiety Disorder and PA's is COMMON. I used to do it
> myself. The problem is, it will take more and more alcohol to accomplish it
> and you will become addicted. I used to self-medicate w/alcohol. It's not a
> long-term solution. There are better meds out there than alcohol. I'd
> suggest you look for some professional help for your Anxiety Disorder. If
> you don't get some sort of treatment (and not necessarily meds) for your
> Anxiety Disorder it will get worse. I've been down that road.
>

Doug

Thanks for the reply. I got myself off the booze for 5 days now. So
far so good. I still have the anxiety/PA, now I need to get myself into
shape and hopefully theyll go away. I have a long road to travel but I
know I can do it. When Im drinking, it just makes everything seem so
distant.

Joe

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"Perkowski" <perkowski1@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:fgq2e.15259$_52.5912@fe09.lga...
> Doug wrote:
>> Self-medicating for Anxiety Disorder and PA's is COMMON. I used to do it
>> myself. The problem is, it will take more and more alcohol to accomplish
>> it and you will become addicted. I used to self-medicate w/alcohol. It's
>> not a long-term solution. There are better meds out there than alcohol.
>> I'd suggest you look for some professional help for your Anxiety
>> Disorder. If you don't get some sort of treatment (and not necessarily
>> meds) for your Anxiety Disorder it will get worse. I've been down that
>> road.
>>
>
> Doug
>
> Thanks for the reply. I got myself off the booze for 5 days now. So far
> so good. I still have the anxiety/PA, now I need to get myself into shape
> and hopefully theyll go away. I have a long road to travel but I know I
> can do it.

I can't count the number of times I would tell myself that 'I know I can do
this and just not drink'.

It took me years of failure to finally put it together and realize when it
comes to my not drinking, there's nothing that I alone can do.

My bouts of anxiety before I got sober were only made worse when I drank.
Today the calm and peace I enjoy in sobriety is just so cool. I'm damn
grateful.

You can have it too.

-Steve

[Exist]

Joe,
I have the same problem. I have such horrile anxiety that it seems at
times that I either have to drink or die (from the stress). I know it
(the anxiety) will only get worse after I'm sober, so it's an endless
cycle. I pray for help. I'll go two, maybe three days without drinking
and then I think "maybe just a few and I'll feel better." I do feel
better for the time being, but the hangovers are horrible, even from
just four or five beers after a meal. I suppose my liver is in bad
shape, because I recall the time when it didn't hurt so bad. I feel yer
pain Joe. Just wanted to let you know that you're not alone.
Take care.

Perkowski wrote:
> Doug wrote:
>
>> Self-medicating for Anxiety Disorder and PA's is COMMON. I used to do
>> it myself. The problem is, it will take more and more alcohol to
>> accomplish it and you will become addicted. I used to self-medicate
>> w/alcohol. It's not a long-term solution. There are better meds out
>> there than alcohol. I'd suggest you look for some professional help
>> for your Anxiety Disorder. If you don't get some sort of treatment
>> (and not necessarily meds) for your Anxiety Disorder it will get
>> worse. I've been down that road.
>>
>
> Doug
>
> Thanks for the reply. I got myself off the booze for 5 days now. So
> far so good. I still have the anxiety/PA, now I need to get myself into
> shape and hopefully theyll go away. I have a long road to travel but I
> know I can do it. When Im drinking, it just makes everything seem so
> distant.
>
> Joe

[BizBear]

Hello Joe,

I hope and pray that you are feeling better these days. You are
definately not a loser, by any means. Unfortunately, relapse is a part
of the disease. Step One... We are powerless. How do you feel about
admitting that? Can you admit that? And of what purpose does the shame
guilt, and remorse do for your recovery program? I got to the point,
that I had none of those feelings. I was apathetic. That is what
scared the hell out of me, the not caring anymore. After consequential
relapses, I would have a pity party for ten minutes, then got off of
the pot, got cleaned up, and worked on my program.

I'm currently enrolled in an outpatient, dual disorder treatment
program for those with chemical dependency and either emotional or
psychiatric illness. It has been a Godsend! It treats both of my
illnesses as they do co-exist. Look up DRA on your browser. Hopefully,
there will be some meetings near you.

I'm not going to wish you luck because I feel that luck has no part in
recovery. It's been a lot of hard work and commitment for me.

Best wishes,

Ted

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:56:01 -0500, Perkowski
<perkowski1@optonline.net> wrote:

>Ive been drinking heavly lately. Im basically broke, lost a bunch of
>jobs to a bigger company, and top off that I have anxiety/PA problems.
>If I drink more during the drinking I feel better, next day without
>booze is a nightmare. Yesterday, about 530pm just started boozing and
>had 3 beers, and a friend ask me to drive him up for a pack of smokes.
>I wasnt bombed or anything (and know its completely wrong to drive
>buzzed at all), well long story short I got pulled over and the guy made
>me take a breathlizer test. I passed it just barely under the limit he
>says, and than he made me take a moving pen test. I passed that. The
>guy wrote me out a seatbelt ticket and told me to go home. I hit the
>jackpot yesterday. I was very luckly.
>
>Anyhow, I feel like a real loser today about this and just venting here.
>I try to talk to my friends about why I drink so much
>(anxiety/depression) and I KNOW alcohol makes its much worse, but, I in
>the drinking so much these past 3 weeks. The next day if I dont have a
>beer or something I lose it. Which I guess Im getting alcohol
>withdrawals or something.
>
>I dont think I can do the AA thing because of my anxiety/PA just yet.
>If I didnt have the anxiety/PA I doubt I would drink as much, because
>frankly it sucks bigtime.
>
>I am going to stop drinking today and try to dry myself out. It take me
>3-4 days to feel decent again.
>
>Sorry for blabbering, I just needed to vent a bit.
>
>Joe