DUI Question

[Mike B]

I am assuming that some of you may have gotten a DUI before cleaning up. I
myself am just beginning (wish me luck). I am in the
middle of dealing with the legalities of a DUI in California and am curious
as to if anyone can help me with this question:

I have yet to go to court, have just passed the 30 day temporary license
allowance and have one question:
If I choose to attend a DUI program, pay the $125 re-issuance fee and opt
for the 5 month restricted license,
am I still stuck with one month of no driving privledges? According to the
Administrative Per Se order, "..you may apply
for a restricted license AFTER 30 days of suspension". Also I dug this up
from duicentral.com:

"If this is a first offense, the license will be suspended for 4 months.
This can be reduced to 1 month followed by 5 months of work restriction if
the individual files proof of enrollment in a DUI school and proof of
insurance (the "SR-22" form). If the case involves a refusal to submit to
chemical testing, the suspension is for 1 year; no work restriction is
possible. A 2nd offense within 10 years carries a 1-year suspension, 2 years
if a refusal."

The notable portion of this statement is the "1 month followed by 5
months.." line.

I am confused as to if I can apply for the restriction immediatley after the
Per Se order expires, or if I have another month with no
options at all.. Any help would be much appreciated as I drive for an
employer as my primary form of income (not a commercial license tho).

Thank You,

-Michael

[Gail]

"Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote in message
news:4FHJd.8011$rv.160@fed1read03...
>I am assuming that some of you may have gotten a DUI before cleaning up. I
> myself am just beginning (wish me luck). I am in the
> middle of dealing with the legalities of a DUI in California and am
> curious
> as to if anyone can help me with this question:
>
> I have yet to go to court, have just passed the 30 day temporary license
> allowance and have one question:
> If I choose to attend a DUI program, pay the $125 re-issuance fee and opt
> for the 5 month restricted license,
> am I still stuck with one month of no driving privledges? According to the
> Administrative Per Se order, "..you may apply
> for a restricted license AFTER 30 days of suspension". Also I dug this up
> from duicentral.com:
>
> "If this is a first offense, the license will be suspended for 4 months.
> This can be reduced to 1 month followed by 5 months of work restriction if
> the individual files proof of enrollment in a DUI school and proof of
> insurance (the "SR-22" form). If the case involves a refusal to submit to
> chemical testing, the suspension is for 1 year; no work restriction is
> possible. A 2nd offense within 10 years carries a 1-year suspension, 2
> years
> if a refusal."
>
> The notable portion of this statement is the "1 month followed by 5
> months.." line.
>
> I am confused as to if I can apply for the restriction immediatley after
> the
> Per Se order expires, or if I have another month with no
> options at all.. Any help would be much appreciated as I drive for an
> employer as my primary form of income (not a commercial license tho).
>
> Thank You,
>
> -Michael
>
>

I am sure the judge will make your options clear when you go to court.
If you are interested in not getting a second DUI, stick around.

[Mike B]

This is exactly the kind of response I expected from this group.




"Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote in message
news:4FHJd.8011$rv.160@fed1read03...
> I am assuming that some of you may have gotten a DUI before cleaning up. I
> myself am just beginning (wish me luck). I am in the
> middle of dealing with the legalities of a DUI in California and am
curious
> as to if anyone can help me with this question:
>
> I have yet to go to court, have just passed the 30 day temporary license
> allowance and have one question:
> If I choose to attend a DUI program, pay the $125 re-issuance fee and opt
> for the 5 month restricted license,
> am I still stuck with one month of no driving privledges? According to the
> Administrative Per Se order, "..you may apply
> for a restricted license AFTER 30 days of suspension". Also I dug this up
> from duicentral.com:
>
> "If this is a first offense, the license will be suspended for 4 months.
> This can be reduced to 1 month followed by 5 months of work restriction if
> the individual files proof of enrollment in a DUI school and proof of
> insurance (the "SR-22" form). If the case involves a refusal to submit to
> chemical testing, the suspension is for 1 year; no work restriction is
> possible. A 2nd offense within 10 years carries a 1-year suspension, 2
years
> if a refusal."
>
> The notable portion of this statement is the "1 month followed by 5
> months.." line.
>
> I am confused as to if I can apply for the restriction immediatley after
the
> Per Se order expires, or if I have another month with no
> options at all.. Any help would be much appreciated as I drive for an
> employer as my primary form of income (not a commercial license tho).
>
> Thank You,
>
> -Michael
>
>

[Dan McGown]

Mike,
The problem with getting advice on something like this is that most of
the people in here don't have personal experience because most of the people
in here don't live in California and most of the people in here aren't
lawyers. As it happens, I am a lawyer but I live in Ohio and I don't have
any clue about California law nor the way that it is applied by the judges
and bureaucrats whose exercises of discretion are as important as the law
itself.
So, when someone in here says that they don't know the answer and then
says that you should stick around for help with the underlying problem, they
aren't just being snarky. They are saying that they don't can't help with
the technical question but that the drinking may be a more fundamental
question than the 30 day difference in suspension.
We all have rough edges when we first stop drinking but it's a good
idea to try to smooth them out and give others the amount of slack that you
want for yourself.
Chill a bit and then take another look at it, please.
Dan
"Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote in message
news:eONJd.9257$rv.3515@fed1read03...
> This is exactly the kind of response I expected from this group.
>
>
>
>
> "Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote in message
> news:4FHJd.8011$rv.160@fed1read03...
>> I am assuming that some of you may have gotten a DUI before cleaning up.
>> I
>> myself am just beginning (wish me luck). I am in the
>> middle of dealing with the legalities of a DUI in California and am
> curious
>> as to if anyone can help me with this question:
>>
>> I have yet to go to court, have just passed the 30 day temporary license
>> allowance and have one question:
>> If I choose to attend a DUI program, pay the $125 re-issuance fee and opt
>> for the 5 month restricted license,
>> am I still stuck with one month of no driving privledges? According to
>> the
>> Administrative Per Se order, "..you may apply
>> for a restricted license AFTER 30 days of suspension". Also I dug this up
>> from duicentral.com:
>>
>> "If this is a first offense, the license will be suspended for 4 months.
>> This can be reduced to 1 month followed by 5 months of work restriction
>> if
>> the individual files proof of enrollment in a DUI school and proof of
>> insurance (the "SR-22" form). If the case involves a refusal to submit to
>> chemical testing, the suspension is for 1 year; no work restriction is
>> possible. A 2nd offense within 10 years carries a 1-year suspension, 2
> years
>> if a refusal."
>>
>> The notable portion of this statement is the "1 month followed by 5
>> months.." line.
>>
>> I am confused as to if I can apply for the restriction immediatley after
> the
>> Per Se order expires, or if I have another month with no
>> options at all.. Any help would be much appreciated as I drive for an
>> employer as my primary form of income (not a commercial license tho).
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>
>

[Dan McGown]

Mike,
The problem with getting advice on something like this is that most of
the people in here don't have personal experience because most of the people
in here don't live in California and most of the people in here aren't
lawyers. As it happens, I am a lawyer but I live in Ohio and I don't have
any clue about California law nor the way that it is applied by the judges
and bureaucrats whose exercises of discretion are as important as the law
itself.
So, when someone in here says that they don't know the answer and then
says that you should stick around for help with the underlying problem, they
aren't just being snarky. They are saying that they don't can't help with
the technical question but that the drinking may be a more fundamental
question than the 30 day difference in suspension.
We all have rough edges when we first stop drinking but it's a good
idea to try to smooth them out and give others the amount of slack that you
want for yourself.
Chill a bit and then take another look at it, please.
Dan


"Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote in message
news:eONJd.9257$rv.3515@fed1read03...
> This is exactly the kind of response I expected from this group.
>
>
>
>
> "Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote in message
> news:4FHJd.8011$rv.160@fed1read03...
>> I am assuming that some of you may have gotten a DUI before cleaning up.
>> I
>> myself am just beginning (wish me luck). I am in the
>> middle of dealing with the legalities of a DUI in California and am
> curious
>> as to if anyone can help me with this question:
>>
>> I have yet to go to court, have just passed the 30 day temporary license
>> allowance and have one question:
>> If I choose to attend a DUI program, pay the $125 re-issuance fee and opt
>> for the 5 month restricted license,
>> am I still stuck with one month of no driving privledges? According to
>> the
>> Administrative Per Se order, "..you may apply
>> for a restricted license AFTER 30 days of suspension". Also I dug this up
>> from duicentral.com:
>>
>> "If this is a first offense, the license will be suspended for 4 months.
>> This can be reduced to 1 month followed by 5 months of work restriction
>> if
>> the individual files proof of enrollment in a DUI school and proof of
>> insurance (the "SR-22" form). If the case involves a refusal to submit to
>> chemical testing, the suspension is for 1 year; no work restriction is
>> possible. A 2nd offense within 10 years carries a 1-year suspension, 2
> years
>> if a refusal."
>>
>> The notable portion of this statement is the "1 month followed by 5
>> months.." line.
>>
>> I am confused as to if I can apply for the restriction immediatley after
> the
>> Per Se order expires, or if I have another month with no
>> options at all.. Any help would be much appreciated as I drive for an
>> employer as my primary form of income (not a commercial license tho).
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>
>

[Gail]

"Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote in message
news:eONJd.9257$rv.3515@fed1read03...
> This is exactly the kind of response I expected from this group.


http://www.california-drunkdriving.org/
Maybe you have already looked this up?

Are you still drinking? If not, what are your plans on staying stopped
besides DUI school?

In my state a person can get a permit to drive to and from work and I
believe they can also drive if it is work related as you said you drive for
your employer.
I am not sure how that works if a person gets more than one DUI. I believe
the lawyer has to bring it before the judge and make a request, at least,
that is what happened with my son. I believe after his second he couldn't
drive even if it was work related. Might want to think about that and do
what you can to stay stopped.

Best,
Gail






>
>
>
> "Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote in message
> news:4FHJd.8011$rv.160@fed1read03...
>> I am assuming that some of you may have gotten a DUI before cleaning up.
>> I
>> myself am just beginning (wish me luck). I am in the
>> middle of dealing with the legalities of a DUI in California and am
> curious
>> as to if anyone can help me with this question:
>>
>> I have yet to go to court, have just passed the 30 day temporary license
>> allowance and have one question:
>> If I choose to attend a DUI program, pay the $125 re-issuance fee and opt
>> for the 5 month restricted license,
>> am I still stuck with one month of no driving privledges? According to
>> the
>> Administrative Per Se order, "..you may apply
>> for a restricted license AFTER 30 days of suspension". Also I dug this up
>> from duicentral.com:
>>
>> "If this is a first offense, the license will be suspended for 4 months.
>> This can be reduced to 1 month followed by 5 months of work restriction
>> if
>> the individual files proof of enrollment in a DUI school and proof of
>> insurance (the "SR-22" form). If the case involves a refusal to submit to
>> chemical testing, the suspension is for 1 year; no work restriction is
>> possible. A 2nd offense within 10 years carries a 1-year suspension, 2
> years
>> if a refusal."
>>
>> The notable portion of this statement is the "1 month followed by 5
>> months.." line.
>>
>> I am confused as to if I can apply for the restriction immediatley after
> the
>> Per Se order expires, or if I have another month with no
>> options at all.. Any help would be much appreciated as I drive for an
>> employer as my primary form of income (not a commercial license tho).
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>
>

[Sc0t U]

In article <4FHJd.8011$rv.160@fed1read03>, geldof@youwish.com says...
> I am assuming that some of you may have gotten a DUI before cleaning up. I
> myself am just beginning (wish me luck). I am in the
> middle of dealing with the legalities of a DUI in California and am curious
> as to if anyone can help me with this question:
>
> I have yet to go to court, have just passed the 30 day temporary license
> allowance and have one question:
> If I choose to attend a DUI program, pay the $125 re-issuance fee and opt
> for the 5 month restricted license,
> am I still stuck with one month of no driving privledges? According to the
> Administrative Per Se order, "..you may apply
> for a restricted license AFTER 30 days of suspension". Also I dug this up
> from duicentral.com:
>
> "If this is a first offense, the license will be suspended for 4 months.
> This can be reduced to 1 month followed by 5 months of work restriction if
> the individual files proof of enrollment in a DUI school and proof of
> insurance (the "SR-22" form). If the case involves a refusal to submit to
> chemical testing, the suspension is for 1 year; no work restriction is
> possible. A 2nd offense within 10 years carries a 1-year suspension, 2 years
> if a refusal."
>
> The notable portion of this statement is the "1 month followed by 5
> months.." line.
>
> I am confused as to if I can apply for the restriction immediatley after the
> Per Se order expires, or if I have another month with no
> options at all.. Any help would be much appreciated as I drive for an
> employer as my primary form of income (not a commercial license tho).
>
> Thank You,
>
> -Michael
>
>
>
Ha ha! You're very lucky, Michael. Lucky not to live in Texas!
Try getting a Schedule II drug bust, weapons charge, DWI and
evading arrest all in one pop. They nearly destroyed me. Just
go with the program, stay at your job --if you have one-- and
go with the flow. Man, they make it rough. It'll all pass, tho.
You'll get your life back. It might take some time. Just hope
that you don't have to DO any time, but, if you do, there'll
be plenty of people there in your situation or worse. Never
let them say that it can't get any worse cuz God knows it Can!
--

"Kennedy's Can't Fly."

[Sc0t U]

In article <tyPJd.8562$p_1.5137@fe03.lga>,
Godgrantmetheserenity@inthisng.com says...
>
> "Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote in message
> news:eONJd.9257$rv.3515@fed1read03...
> > This is exactly the kind of response I expected from this group.
>
>
> http://www.california-drunkdriving.org/
> Maybe you have already looked this up?
>
> Are you still drinking? If not, what are your plans on staying stopped
> besides DUI school?
>
> In my state a person can get a permit to drive to and from work and I
> believe they can also drive if it is work related as you said you drive for
> your employer.
> I am not sure how that works if a person gets more than one DUI. I believe
> the lawyer has to bring it before the judge and make a request, at least,
> that is what happened with my son. I believe after his second he couldn't
> drive even if it was work related. Might want to think about that and do
> what you can to stay stopped.
>
> Best,
> Gail
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote in message
> > news:4FHJd.8011$rv.160@fed1read03...
> >> I am assuming that some of you may have gotten a DUI before cleaning up.
> >> I
> >> myself am just beginning (wish me luck). I am in the
> >> middle of dealing with the legalities of a DUI in California and am
> > curious
> >> as to if anyone can help me with this question:
> >>
> >> I have yet to go to court, have just passed the 30 day temporary license
> >> allowance and have one question:
> >> If I choose to attend a DUI program, pay the $125 re-issuance fee and opt
> >> for the 5 month restricted license,
> >> am I still stuck with one month of no driving privledges? According to
> >> the
> >> Administrative Per Se order, "..you may apply
> >> for a restricted license AFTER 30 days of suspension". Also I dug this up
> >> from duicentral.com:
> >>
> >> "If this is a first offense, the license will be suspended for 4 months.
> >> This can be reduced to 1 month followed by 5 months of work restriction
> >> if
> >> the individual files proof of enrollment in a DUI school and proof of
> >> insurance (the "SR-22" form). If the case involves a refusal to submit to
> >> chemical testing, the suspension is for 1 year; no work restriction is
> >> possible. A 2nd offense within 10 years carries a 1-year suspension, 2
> > years
> >> if a refusal."
> >>
> >> The notable portion of this statement is the "1 month followed by 5
> >> months.." line.
> >>
> >> I am confused as to if I can apply for the restriction immediatley after
> > the
> >> Per Se order expires, or if I have another month with no
> >> options at all.. Any help would be much appreciated as I drive for an
> >> employer as my primary form of income (not a commercial license tho).
> >>
> >> Thank You,
> >>
> >> -Michael
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
You can Still drive in most states with a breathalyzer
installed in your vehicle. Again, we're talking Money
and if you fail your breathalyzer, it's automatically
reported back to your probation officer and will be
an automatic revocation of your probation. Not to mention,
if you're a commercial driver, you're fucked for life. The
NAZI's were nicer than the current Jew-run system we have
now. At least they had the courtesy to kill you and put
you out of your misery.
--

"Kennedy's Can't Fly."

[motart]

You may just wish to consider...that as a 42 yr old without a valid IL dl in
20 yrs...just some moron with a 19 yr old son, whom i've never taken
fishing. i spent my last birthday, father's day' and the longest day of
summer...in jail (5 days).... yeah, dear departed Dad's b-day 2.... for a
goddam dui onna 4 wheeler...sum of us just shouldn't drink. It isn't the
reason for my second divorce. but it played a part. it will...goto aa...and
find a sponsor.. it feels really gay at first...get the fuk over it.Do u
wish to die...I lostt a few...no, i lost a lot, Get real...people die
here...ain't funny.

Jump thru the hoops...pay the money....and leave this shit behind u....left
alone ....it will kill u! the door is always open..go knock...You might be
suprised about how many doctors and layers...you will keep u-r mouth shut
about. We aren't stupid... we're weak.

peace out

G


"Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote in message
news:4FHJd.8011$rv.160@fed1read03...
>I am assuming that some of you may have gotten a DUI before cleaning up. I
> myself am just beginning (wish me luck). I am in the
> middle of dealing with the legalities of a DUI in California and am
> curious
> as to if anyone can help me with this question:
>
> I have yet to go to court, have just passed the 30 day temporary license
> allowance and have one question:
> If I choose to attend a DUI program, pay the $125 re-issuance fee and opt
> for the 5 month restricted license,
> am I still stuck with one month of no driving privledges? According to the
> Administrative Per Se order, "..you may apply
> for a restricted license AFTER 30 days of suspension". Also I dug this up
> from duicentral.com:
>
> "If this is a first offense, the license will be suspended for 4 months.
> This can be reduced to 1 month followed by 5 months of work restriction if
> the individual files proof of enrollment in a DUI school and proof of
> insurance (the "SR-22" form). If the case involves a refusal to submit to
> chemical testing, the suspension is for 1 year; no work restriction is
> possible. A 2nd offense within 10 years carries a 1-year suspension, 2
> years
> if a refusal."
>
> The notable portion of this statement is the "1 month followed by 5
> months.." line.
>
> I am confused as to if I can apply for the restriction immediatley after
> the
> Per Se order expires, or if I have another month with no
> options at all.. Any help would be much appreciated as I drive for an
> employer as my primary form of income (not a commercial license tho).
>
> Thank You,
>
> -Michael
>
>

[totsob]

motart wrote:
We aren't stupid... we're weak.
>
> peace out
>

We aren't weak either, we are just addicted. We react differently
physically and mentally to the effects of alcohol from normal people.

[Bobby L]

"Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote in message
news:eONJd.9257$rv.3515@fed1read03...

> This is exactly the kind of response I expected from this group.
>
>
>

Then perhaps you should pull your head out and seek a venue where you might
find the answer you want.

Bobby L

[Mike B]

> Then perhaps you should pull your head out and seek a venue where you
might
> find the answer you want.


Already done smart guy. Hope you like it with your head out.



"Bobby L" <BobbyL2000spam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:uZOKd.315$zh.230@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote in message
> news:eONJd.9257$rv.3515@fed1read03...
>
> > This is exactly the kind of response I expected from this group.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Bobby L
>
>
>

[Doug]

Tell me you're not anti-semitic.

--
>>
>>
> You can Still drive in most states with a breathalyzer
> installed in your vehicle. Again, we're talking Money
> and if you fail your breathalyzer, it's automatically
> reported back to your probation officer and will be
> an automatic revocation of your probation. Not to mention,
> if you're a commercial driver, you're fucked for life. The
> NAZI's were nicer than the current Jew-run system we have
> now. At least they had the courtesy to kill you and put
> you out of your misery.
> --
>
> "Kennedy's Can't Fly."

[Scott W.]

In article <YphMd.6002$sY4.4740@fe03.lga>, pigdos@nospamcharter.net
says...
> Tell me you're not anti-semitic.
>
>
Ok, I'm not anti-semitic. My girlfriend is jewish. She
just doesn't know it yet.
--

"Kennedy's Can't Fly."

[SeppDietrich@comcast.net]

Anti Jewish? http://library.flawlesslogic.com/eckart_1.htm think about
that.
"Sepp"

[Scott W.]

In article <1107430275.646911.3760@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.co m>,
SeppDietrich@comcast.net says...
> Anti Jewish? http://library.flawlesslogic.com/eckart_1.htm think about
> that.
> "Sepp"
>
>
Think about what? Several of my friends are Jews. I just
don't like legislators. Problem?
--

"Kennedy's Can't Fly."