Your thoughts welcome

[RK Dian]

Please give me you view point of this statement

"When we have finally admitted without reservation that we are powerless
over alcohol, we are apt to breathe a great sigh of relief, saying, "Well,
thank God that's over! I'll never have to go through that again!" Then we
learn, often to our consternation, that this is only the first milestone on
the new road we are walking. Still goaded by sheer necessity, we reluctantly
come to grips with those serious character flaws that made problem drinkers
of us in the first place, flaws which must be dealt with to prevent a
retreat into alcoholism once again...."

[Gail]

"RK Dian" <rkdian@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Please give me you view point of this statement
>
> "When we have finally admitted without reservation that we are powerless
> over alcohol, we are apt to breathe a great sigh of relief, saying, "Well,
> thank God that's over! I'll never have to go through that again!"

I don't remember saying that. I do remember saying that I never want to go
through that again. There is a chance I could.


Then we
> learn, often to our consternation, that this is only the first milestone
> on the new road we are walking. Still goaded by sheer necessity, we
> reluctantly come to grips with those serious character flaws that made
> problem drinkers of us in the first place, flaws which must be dealt with
> to prevent a retreat into alcoholism once again...."

I don't remember when I started seeing that a lot of my drinking was because
of my thinking. Thinking that I could trust no one. Thinking that if people
would just act and do what I wanted them to do that things would be better.
Thinking that I needed to be liked by everyone. Thinking that I was the only
one who could do my job right. Thinking that I was being punished for all
the bad things I had done. Thinking that I wasn't complete if I didn't have
a man in my life..LOL! SO many more things I chose to drink over.
Realizing that there were people who cared about me and people that I could
trust was a beginning. Realizing that people are not going to act the way
*I* want them to act was another milestone. Someone helping me realize that
everyone does not work on a job the same. Some are slower than others.
Doesn't mean they aren't doing their job right. Realizing that I don't
always like people and am not always liked is a biggy. I might care about
someone but, that doesn't mean I have to like their ways. The biggest was
realizing that I was not being punished for anything but God. Being able to
see or find the good in the bad was the biggest thing for me. As soon as I
started accepting the things that I thought so bad, I was blessed in seeing
the good that had come from them. Some times I may never know what good came
from something. That is ok, too.
I guess acceptance was the thing that helped me the most.
Hope this made sense.. It does to me anyway. ;)

Best,
Gail

[rosie readandpost]

: "RK Dian" <rkdian@earthlink.net> wrote in message
: news:utcCd.7901$JC2.5136@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: > Please give me you view point of this statement
: >
: > "When we have finally admitted without reservation that we are
powerless
: > over alcohol, we are apt to breathe a great sigh of relief,
saying, "Well,
: > thank God that's over! I'll never have to go through that
again!"


i do remember after i sobered up, just how nice it was not to have
to worry about whether there was enough booze in the house, or
whether we were going to place that would serve booze, or when i
should get started drinking, and how fast, and how much coffee to
balance it out with , or whether or not anyone would notice the
booze in my diet pepsi, or whether or not the kids would notice that
i was blasted, and on and on and on!
it truly was a "burden lifted!"
thanks for the memories!

[John Droge]

"RK Dian" <rkdian@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Please give me you view point of this statement
>
> "When we have finally admitted without reservation that we are powerless
> over alcohol, we are apt to breathe a great sigh of relief, saying, "Well,
> thank God that's over! I'll never have to go through that again!" Then we
> learn, often to our consternation, that this is only the first milestone
on
> the new road we are walking. Still goaded by sheer necessity, we
reluctantly
> come to grips with those serious character flaws that made problem
drinkers
> of us in the first place, flaws which must be dealt with to prevent a
> retreat into alcoholism once again...."
>
Ah yes-sobriety is not in fact a goal in itself, but the starting point in
being Alive again and Life takes effort.
Welcome to the Real World.
Peace
John

[Nat]

MY first thought was, " Now what? "What can I do about it?"
nat

> "When we have finally admitted without reservation that we are powerless
> over alcohol, we are apt to breathe a great sigh of relief, saying, "Well,
> > thank God that's over! I'll never have to go through that again!"

[Robert McGregor]

Nat, given your recent return to drinking, apparantly your subsequent
thoughts proved to be powerless also.

What are you *doing* different, this time?

Bob

"Nat" <n515hoop@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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> MY first thought was, " Now what? "What can I do about it?"
> nat
>
>> "When we have finally admitted without reservation that we are
>> powerless over alcohol, we are apt to breathe a great sigh of
>> relief, saying, "Well, > thank God that's over! I'll never have to
>> go through that again!"
>
>

[rosie readandpost]

"Nat" <n515hoop@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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: MY first thought was, " Now what? "What can I do about it?"
: nat
:

mine too.........................so i went to AA and learned to work
on STOPPING THINKING and just GET INTO ACTION.

that required some trust, and as a last resort, i found some!







: > "When we have finally admitted without reservation that we are
powerless
: > over alcohol, we are apt to breathe a great sigh of relief,
saying, "Well,
: > > thank God that's over! I'll never have to go through that
again!"
:
:

[Nat]

What happened, Bob, was that I had allowed my ego to flourish again. In the
small meetings around here I was the "Old timer" (really, with only 14 years
of sobriety). I guess it went to my head...I forgot all about God, ands
started to think "H'm, I'm really not like "them".

I quite going to meetings because I didn't think I needed them many more. A
year later I started drinking again.

It was fine for a while, but little by little...well you know how it goes.
In tree years I was a willing inmate in a State treatment center. this
turned out to be just what I needed: Time to consider "WHY?

Today I'm glad it happened because know I KNOW that I'm an alcoholic that
NEEDS AA. No more wondering.

Regards,

nat
Oxford, AR




"Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> Nat, given your recent return to drinking, apparantly your subsequent
> thoughts proved to be powerless also.
>
> What are you *doing* different, this time?
>
> Bob
>
> "Nat" <n515hoop@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> news:aKKdnQ49fbbMPkHcRVn-jA@centurytel.net...
>> MY first thought was, " Now what? "What can I do about it?"
>> nat
>>
>>> "When we have finally admitted without reservation that we are powerless
>>> over alcohol, we are apt to breathe a great sigh of relief, saying,
>>> "Well, > thank God that's over! I'll never have to go through that
>>> again!"
>>
>>
>
>

[rosie readandpost]

one day at a time nat, with that attitude, you will make it this
time!
thanks for sharing.....................

your relapse experience is quite common among old-timers, and a good
reason for me to continue going to my FACE TO FACE AA meetings,
don't you think?!

--
rosie

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"Nat" <n515hoop@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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: What happened, Bob, was that I had allowed my ego to flourish
again. In the
: small meetings around here I was the "Old timer" (really, with
only 14 years
: of sobriety). I guess it went to my head...I forgot all about God,
ands
: started to think "H'm, I'm really not like "them".
:
: I quite going to meetings because I didn't think I needed them
many more. A
: year later I started drinking again.
:
: It was fine for a while, but little by little...well you know how
it goes.
: In tree years I was a willing inmate in a State treatment center.
this
: turned out to be just what I needed: Time to consider "WHY?
:
: Today I'm glad it happened because know I KNOW that I'm an
alcoholic that
: NEEDS AA. No more wondering.
:
: Regards,
:
: nat
: Oxford, AR
:
:
:
:
: "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
: news:343nmiF465eevU1@individual.net...
: > Nat, given your recent return to drinking, apparantly your
subsequent
: > thoughts proved to be powerless also.
: >
: > What are you *doing* different, this time?
: >
: > Bob
: >
: > "Nat" <n515hoop@centurytel.net> wrote in message
: > news:aKKdnQ49fbbMPkHcRVn-jA@centurytel.net...
: >> MY first thought was, " Now what? "What can I do about it?"
: >> nat
: >>
: >>> "When we have finally admitted without reservation that we are
powerless
: >>> over alcohol, we are apt to breathe a great sigh of relief,
saying,
: >>> "Well, > thank God that's over! I'll never have to go through
that
: >>> again!"
: >>
: >>
: >
: >
:
: