Alcoholics can recover and drink safely again

[Alcocure]

Alcoholism is not a disease - it is a behaviour problem with its roots
in childhood. If these issues from the past can be identified and
addressed, alcoholics can recover and be able to drink safely and
normally again.

Visit www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com

Kind regards,

alcocure

[Dan McGown]

"Alcocure" <alcocure@aol.com> wrote in message
news:39516dcd.0409290356.559918d9@posting.google.c om...
> Alcoholism is not a disease - it is a behaviour problem with its roots
> in childhood. If these issues from the past can be identified and
> addressed, alcoholics can recover and be able to drink safely and
> normally again.

This appears to be a "feeder" for Stanton Peele's books and workshops which.

" . . . and when the Beatles tell you they've got words of love to sell you,
they mean exactly what they say." The Mamas and the Papas.

Dan

[J]

Interesting. It just goes to show that there's many different ways that one
can deal with one's alcoholism. I've tried to drink in moderation on many
occasions, but failed each time. The only solution for me total abstinance.
But, this isn't the end of the world. I lead my life like any other really,
apart from the fact I don't drink. When I'm not drinking, the drink doesn't
bother me too much. But, when I am drinking, it's all consuming and I can't
stop. For me, it's more of a physical dependance than an emotional
dependance.

--
J



Alcocure wrote:
> Alcoholism is not a disease - it is a behaviour problem with its roots
> in childhood. If these issues from the past can be identified and
> addressed, alcoholics can recover and be able to drink safely and
> normally again.
>
> Visit www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com
>
> Kind regards,
>
> alcocure

[Dan McGown]

> This appears to be a "feeder" for Stanton Peele's books and workshops
> which.

Sorry about the fragment. I started to say something snotty and then
changed my mind.

The problem with approaches like that one is that their "logic" flows
something like this: "Tim drank too much. Tim thought he was an alcoholic.
We showed Tim how to drink in moderation. Therefore, their are no
alcoholics."

Obviously, all that they have really proved is that Tim wasn't an alcoholic.

My grandfather was an alcoholic. My father was an alcoholic. Both of my
brothers are alcoholics. I don't know about the hypothetical "Tim" but I am
an alcoholic.

Some people who simply have been drinking too much may be able to learn to
drink in moderation, but I can't take the chance.

Thanks anyway, but no thanks.

[Dan McGown]

>Therefore, their are no alcoholics.

SB "there"

Criminy, why can't I learn to proof read? Is it a perceptual problem, do
you think?

[J]

I know what you mean, I always tend to spell a word like "training" as
"traing". There's a long latin word to describe this type of behaviour, but
I forget what it is. Aside from that, it's the message rather than spelling
that's important :)

--
J



Dan McGown wrote:
>> Therefore, their are no alcoholics.
>
> SB "there"
>
> Criminy, why can't I learn to proof read? Is it a perceptual
> problem, do you think?

[vinco]

I can't imagine why I would ever want to drink "sociably" anyway. I never
have before. I always drank for the effect, not to be social. Even when the
desired effect was to be able to socialize, it never stopped there. I'm
quite content not drinking at all. Oh, and I can socialize now without
alcohol so it's a mute point anyway. I have no need for any treatment for my
alcoholism other than AA.

Vince

"Dan McGown" <dmcgown@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:QpKdnbvhENv3IcfcRVn-hA@adelphia.com...
>> This appears to be a "feeder" for Stanton Peele's books and workshops
>> which.
>
> Sorry about the fragment. I started to say something snotty and then
> changed my mind.
>
> The problem with approaches like that one is that their "logic" flows
> something like this: "Tim drank too much. Tim thought he was an
> alcoholic. We showed Tim how to drink in moderation. Therefore, their
> are no alcoholics."
>
> Obviously, all that they have really proved is that Tim wasn't an
> alcoholic.
>
> My grandfather was an alcoholic. My father was an alcoholic. Both of my
> brothers are alcoholics. I don't know about the hypothetical "Tim" but I
> am an alcoholic.
>
> Some people who simply have been drinking too much may be able to learn to
> drink in moderation, but I can't take the chance.
>
> Thanks anyway, but no thanks.
>

[Dem Feckers]

Just do bongs.


"J" <welshalky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:415ae489$1@news.greennet.net...
> Interesting. It just goes to show that there's many different ways
that one
> can deal with one's alcoholism. I've tried to drink in moderation on
many
> occasions, but failed each time. The only solution for me total
abstinance.
> But, this isn't the end of the world. I lead my life like any other
really,
> apart from the fact I don't drink. When I'm not drinking, the drink
doesn't
> bother me too much. But, when I am drinking, it's all consuming and I
can't
> stop. For me, it's more of a physical dependance than an emotional
> dependance.
>
> --
> J
>
>
>
> Alcocure wrote:
> > Alcoholism is not a disease - it is a behaviour problem with its
roots
> > in childhood. If these issues from the past can be identified and
> > addressed, alcoholics can recover and be able to drink safely and
> > normally again.
> >
> > Visit www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > alcocure
>
>

[Dem Feckers]

"Dan McGown" <dmcgown@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:QpKdnbvhENv3IcfcRVn-hA@adelphia.com...
> > This appears to be a "feeder" for Stanton Peele's books and
workshops
> > which.
>
> Sorry about the fragment. I started to say something snotty and then
> changed my mind.
>
> The problem with approaches like that one is that their "logic" flows
> something like this: "Tim drank too much. Tim thought he was an
alcoholic.
> We showed Tim how to drink in moderation. Therefore, their are no
> alcoholics."
>
> Obviously, all that they have really proved is that Tim wasn't an
alcoholic.
>
> My grandfather was an alcoholic. My father was an alcoholic. Both of
my
> brothers are alcoholics. I don't know about the hypothetical "Tim"
but I am
> an alcoholic.
>
> Some people who simply have been drinking too much may be able to
learn to
> drink in moderation, but I can't take the chance.
>
> Thanks anyway, but no thanks.


Do you pee in the shower?

Just do bongs.


>
>

[Kirk S.]

"Dem Feckers" <repo@bli.can> wrote in message
news:cjep4k02gp7@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Just do bongs.

Dem <aka "Troll">,

Tried them... I'd really rather drink than have my brain shut down and be
filled with feelings of paranoia.

Just as some people are more drawn to the hemp, others are drawn to alcohol.
I read the rules of moderate drinking, I never drank that way and when the
intent is to get stinking drunk, those rules don't make much sense.

Either way, I see drug use as an attempt to avoid dealing with the issues
that bother me. I would rather not go through life in a stoned daze or a
drunken stupid.

Enjoy!

Kirk S.
>
>
> "J" <welshalky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:415ae489$1@news.greennet.net...
> > Interesting. It just goes to show that there's many different ways
> that one
> > can deal with one's alcoholism. I've tried to drink in moderation on
> many
> > occasions, but failed each time. The only solution for me total
> abstinance.
> > But, this isn't the end of the world. I lead my life like any other
> really,
> > apart from the fact I don't drink. When I'm not drinking, the drink
> doesn't
> > bother me too much. But, when I am drinking, it's all consuming and I
> can't
> > stop. For me, it's more of a physical dependance than an emotional
> > dependance.
> >
> > --
> > J
> >
> >
> >
> > Alcocure wrote:
> > > Alcoholism is not a disease - it is a behaviour problem with its
> roots
> > > in childhood. If these issues from the past can be identified and
> > > addressed, alcoholics can recover and be able to drink safely and
> > > normally again.
> > >
> > > Visit www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > alcocure
> >
> >
>
>

[Dem Feckers]

Cannabis is not a drug. It is an ancient herb.


"Kirk S." <crayzkirk@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:FHT6d.71608$6h7.17086@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> "Dem Feckers" <repo@bli.can> wrote in message
> news:cjep4k02gp7@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Just do bongs.
>
> Dem <aka "Troll">,
>
> Tried them... I'd really rather drink than have my brain shut down
and be
> filled with feelings of paranoia.
>
> Just as some people are more drawn to the hemp, others are drawn to
alcohol.
> I read the rules of moderate drinking, I never drank that way and when
the
> intent is to get stinking drunk, those rules don't make much sense.
>
> Either way, I see drug use as an attempt to avoid dealing with the
issues
> that bother me. I would rather not go through life in a stoned daze
or a
> drunken stupid.


So your are just crazy anyway.

Please do not do bongs. We do not need anymore stoned drunken bums
chopping off ladies heads that are working in thier gardens on a sunny
afternoon.


voodoo disease 666

>
> Enjoy!
>
> Kirk S.
> >
> >
> > "J" <welshalky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:415ae489$1@news.greennet.net...
> > > Interesting. It just goes to show that there's many different ways
> > that one
> > > can deal with one's alcoholism. I've tried to drink in moderation
on
> > many
> > > occasions, but failed each time. The only solution for me total
> > abstinance.
> > > But, this isn't the end of the world. I lead my life like any
other
> > really,
> > > apart from the fact I don't drink. When I'm not drinking, the
drink
> > doesn't
> > > bother me too much. But, when I am drinking, it's all consuming
and I
> > can't
> > > stop. For me, it's more of a physical dependance than an emotional
> > > dependance.
> > >
> > > --
> > > J
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Alcocure wrote:
> > > > Alcoholism is not a disease - it is a behaviour problem with its
> > roots
> > > > in childhood. If these issues from the past can be identified
and
> > > > addressed, alcoholics can recover and be able to drink safely
and
> > > > normally again.
> > > >
> > > > Visit www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > >
> > > > alcocure
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Blue Moon]

On 29 Sep 2004 04:56:00 -0700, alcocure@aol.com (Alcocure) wrote:

>Alcoholism is not a disease

There is considerable medical evidence that indicates an allergy (or
abnormal reaction) does occur in those who seem incapable of drinking
alcohol without abusing it. There is also considerable medical
evidence that indicates a genetic predisposition to this reaction.

> it is a behaviour problem with its roots
>in childhood. If these issues from the past can be identified and
>addressed, alcoholics can recover and be able to drink safely and
>normally again.

Your own words, and your web site, are self-contradictory. If
alcoholism does not exist, why do you then go on to classify
"alcoholics"?

DSM IV has 2 classifications related to alcohol: alcohol abuse, and
alcohol dependency. Some of the worst cases spent small fortunes on
health farms, psychotherapy, etc. Even today, patients will spend
their money on psychiatry, medications, hypnotherapy, etc. and get no
success.

--
Blue Moon

[Michael]

In <news:cjkbp206tu@enews4.newsguy.com>,
Dem Feckers said:

> Cannabis is not a drug. It is an ancient herb.

So are digitalis, beladonna and hemlock. :-\

[Katra]

In article <2s9aq4F1icopnU1@uni-berlin.de>,
"Michael" <muirhead@haidagwaii.net> wrote:

> In <news:cjkbp206tu@enews4.newsguy.com>,
> Dem Feckers said:
>
> > Cannabis is not a drug. It is an ancient herb.
>
> So are digitalis, beladonna and hemlock. :-\
>
>

<lol> And a number of others... ;-)
Senna, Jimson weed, Nightshade, Mistletoe, etc.

As said Socrates, "I drank what???"

K.
--
Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell‹you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

[Dem Feckers]

"Blue Moon" <mfoco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1096772993.ZT4/LXSrFzDYBP4CWsltjw@teranews...
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:27:04 -0400, "Dem Feckers" <repo@bli.can> wrote:
>
> >Cannabis is not a drug. It is an ancient herb.
>
> Curious concept. So.... what are drugs in your world?

A drug is what George Bush and the secret service injected into my body
before the three interogations and the monitoring device they stuck in
my back. They said I would not remember and that I would enjoy the
drugs.

They were wrong on both accounts. I did remember and I did not enjoy the
drugs. I did not even finish my 12 pack. I did quit drinking in 1983
after reporting this crime to Governor Ann Richards and the State of
Texas.

Tom Clancy had the shit for brains to tell me that I needed a wardrobe
to be more convincing.




>
> --
> Blue Moon

[Dem Feckers]

"Katra" <KatraMungBean@Centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:KatraMungBean-AE429B.22471402102004@corp.supernews.com...
> In article <2s9aq4F1icopnU1@uni-berlin.de>,
> "Michael" <muirhead@haidagwaii.net> wrote:
>
> > In <news:cjkbp206tu@enews4.newsguy.com>,
> > Dem Feckers said:
> >
> > > Cannabis is not a drug. It is an ancient herb.
> >
> > So are digitalis, beladonna and hemlock. :-\
> >
> >
>
> <lol> And a number of others... ;-)
> Senna, Jimson weed, Nightshade, Mistletoe, etc.
>
> As said Socrates, "I drank what???"
>

And do not forget lotus. I knew the founder of Lotus. We walked through
Hardvard square and he burned a big fatty at that all female college
there, I do not remember the name. But nice smart looking chicks. We
walked from my flat in South end past MIT to Hardvard and then back.
Boston was a nice place, yet I am not sure if my family fought in any
battles there during the American Revolution. The First Continental Army
did bongs while marching hundreds of miles.

Even the Egyptian engineers used mind tripping to explore physics.