Dubya Falls Off the Wagon

[±]

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/bush/bush.html

If George W. Bush ends up in the White House, The Smoking Gun would like
to be the first web outfit to formally offer Dubya an artifact for his
future presidential library. The Republican's wacky performance in this
1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold turkey in
July 1986--needs to be preserved for future generations.

The video was shot at the August 29, 1992 wedding of Jamie Weiss, the
daughter of Dubya's close friends Mike and Nancy Weiss. Mike, a Lubbock,
Texas lawyer and CPA, was Bush's campaign chairman during his first
political race (an unsuccessful 1978 congressional bid) and was one of
the Texas governor's earliest political appointments. Nancy, also a Bush
appointee, had a prime speaking slot on the final night of the
Republican convention. She told the crowd, "I wish you could see how he
reaches out to people, teasing those who can take it and protecting
those who can't."

Indeed, what a teaser!

When cameraman T. Patrick Murray filmed Bush during the wedding
reception at a Lubbock country club, the future governor took some
rambling--and we presume good-natured--swipes at the newlyweds, the
bride's parents, and her brother Kelly (Bush was being quizzed by a
member of the bridal party). We love the part where teetotaler George
actually disses two of the Weisses for supposedly not drinking or
smoking. And as for those weird Don King-like "only in America"
cracks--not to mention what's in that glass--your guess is as good as
TSG's.

Bush's wacky wedding performance:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov







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[Roedy Green]

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ± <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com>
wrote or quoted :

>The Republican's wacky performance in this
>1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold turkey in
>July 1986--needs to be preserved for future generations.

The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he gets
plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink in 1986 but was
still drinking in 1992. If he is anything like a typical lying
alcoholic he STILL drinking today in Crawford getting so shitfaced he
can't tell the nuclear button from the doorbell.

I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with your lives
that way.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

[Cartilage Man]

± wrote:
|| http://www.thesmokinggun.com/bush/bush.html
||
|| If George W. Bush ends up in the White House, The Smoking Gun would
|| like to be the first web outfit to formally offer Dubya an artifact
|| for his future presidential library. The Republican's wacky
|| performance in this 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after
|| Bush went cold turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
|| generations.
||
|| The video was shot at the August 29, 1992 wedding of Jamie Weiss, the
|| daughter of Dubya's close friends Mike and Nancy Weiss. Mike, a
|| Lubbock, Texas lawyer and CPA, was Bush's campaign chairman during
|| his first political race (an unsuccessful 1978 congressional bid)
|| and was one of the Texas governor's earliest political appointments.
|| Nancy, also a Bush appointee, had a prime speaking slot on the final
|| night of the Republican convention. She told the crowd, "I wish you
|| could see how he reaches out to people, teasing those who can take
|| it and protecting those who can't."
||
|| Indeed, what a teaser!
||
|| When cameraman T. Patrick Murray filmed Bush during the wedding
|| reception at a Lubbock country club, the future governor took some
|| rambling--and we presume good-natured--swipes at the newlyweds, the
|| bride's parents, and her brother Kelly (Bush was being quizzed by a
|| member of the bridal party). We love the part where teetotaler George
|| actually disses two of the Weisses for supposedly not drinking or
|| smoking. And as for those weird Don King-like "only in America"
|| cracks--not to mention what's in that glass--your guess is as good as
|| TSG's.
||
|| Bush's wacky wedding performance:
||
|| http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov

Bush is president. What are YOU? Take your OWN inventory, bud!


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|| http://www.bedoper.com/snuh
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|| / \
|| / \ /-----\
||| (@) | | SnuH |
||| (O) | \_ ___/
||| / | ||
||| \ /_ / //
|| \ \____/ / /
|| \ /
|| \_____,

[Cartilage Man]

Roedy Green wrote:
|| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ± <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com>
|| wrote or quoted :
||
||| The Republican's wacky performance in this
||| 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold turkey
||| in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future generations.
||
|| The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he gets
|| plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink in 1986 but was
|| still drinking in 1992. If he is anything like a typical lying
|| alcoholic he STILL drinking today in Crawford getting so shitfaced he
|| can't tell the nuclear button from the doorbell.
||
|| I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with your lives
|| that way.

Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking OTHERS?


||
|| http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
|| --
|| Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
|| Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
|| See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

[Cory Bhreckan]

Cartilage Man wrote:
>
> ± wrote:
> || http://www.thesmokinggun.com/bush/bush.html
> ||
> || If George W. Bush ends up in the White House, The Smoking Gun would
> || like to be the first web outfit to formally offer Dubya an artifact
> || for his future presidential library. The Republican's wacky
> || performance in this 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after
> || Bush went cold turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
> || generations.
> ||
> || The video was shot at the August 29, 1992 wedding of Jamie Weiss, the
> || daughter of Dubya's close friends Mike and Nancy Weiss. Mike, a
> || Lubbock, Texas lawyer and CPA, was Bush's campaign chairman during
> || his first political race (an unsuccessful 1978 congressional bid)
> || and was one of the Texas governor's earliest political appointments.
> || Nancy, also a Bush appointee, had a prime speaking slot on the final
> || night of the Republican convention. She told the crowd, "I wish you
> || could see how he reaches out to people, teasing those who can take
> || it and protecting those who can't."
> ||
> || Indeed, what a teaser!
> ||
> || When cameraman T. Patrick Murray filmed Bush during the wedding
> || reception at a Lubbock country club, the future governor took some
> || rambling--and we presume good-natured--swipes at the newlyweds, the
> || bride's parents, and her brother Kelly (Bush was being quizzed by a
> || member of the bridal party). We love the part where teetotaler George
> || actually disses two of the Weisses for supposedly not drinking or
> || smoking. And as for those weird Don King-like "only in America"
> || cracks--not to mention what's in that glass--your guess is as good as
> || TSG's.
> ||
> || Bush's wacky wedding performance:
> ||
> || http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
>
> Bush is president.

And a damn poor one too.


> What are YOU? Take your OWN inventory, bud!
>
> ||
> ||
> ||
> ||
> ||
> ||
> ||
> || --
> || http://www.bedoper.com/snuh
> ||
> ||
> ||
> || -------
> || / \
> || / \ /-----\
> ||| (@) | | SnuH |
> ||| (O) | \_ ___/
> ||| / | ||
> ||| \ /_ / //
> || \ \____/ / /
> || \ /
> || \_____,

[stuart]

"±" <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com> wrote in message

And you have never done anything stupid at a wedding?
Fuck off, moron.

[John]

"Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message news:<ZDy3d.91018$XP3.24379@edtnps84>...
> ± wrote:
> || http://www.thesmokinggun.com/bush/bush.html
> ||
> || If George W. Bush ends up in the White House, The Smoking Gun would
> || like to be the first web outfit to formally offer Dubya an artifact
> || for his future presidential library. The Republican's wacky
> || performance in this 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after
> || Bush went cold turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
> || generations.
> ||
> || The video was shot at the August 29, 1992 wedding of Jamie Weiss, the
> || daughter of Dubya's close friends Mike and Nancy Weiss. Mike, a
> || Lubbock, Texas lawyer and CPA, was Bush's campaign chairman during
> || his first political race (an unsuccessful 1978 congressional bid)
> || and was one of the Texas governor's earliest political appointments.
> || Nancy, also a Bush appointee, had a prime speaking slot on the final
> || night of the Republican convention. She told the crowd, "I wish you
> || could see how he reaches out to people, teasing those who can take
> || it and protecting those who can't."
> ||
> || Indeed, what a teaser!
> ||
> || When cameraman T. Patrick Murray filmed Bush during the wedding
> || reception at a Lubbock country club, the future governor took some
> || rambling--and we presume good-natured--swipes at the newlyweds, the
> || bride's parents, and her brother Kelly (Bush was being quizzed by a
> || member of the bridal party). We love the part where teetotaler George
> || actually disses two of the Weisses for supposedly not drinking or
> || smoking. And as for those weird Don King-like "only in America"
> || cracks--not to mention what's in that glass--your guess is as good as
> || TSG's.
> ||
> || Bush's wacky wedding performance:
> ||
> || http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
>
> Bush is president. What are YOU? Take your OWN inventory, bud!

That's right. Bush was selected president. The inventory being taken
since---in just lives: 9/11, Tora Bora, Iraq, etc ---while OBL remains
at large.

[Ashland Henderson]

"Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message news:<wEy3d.91030$XP3.27940@edtnps84>...
> Roedy Green wrote:
> || On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ± <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com>
> || wrote or quoted :
> ||
> ||| The Republican's wacky performance in this
> ||| 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold turkey
> ||| in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future generations.
> ||
> || The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he gets
> || plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink in 1986 but was
> || still drinking in 1992. If he is anything like a typical lying
> || alcoholic he STILL drinking today in Crawford getting so shitfaced he
> || can't tell the nuclear button from the doorbell.
> ||
> || I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with your lives
> || that way.
>
> Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking OTHERS?

Is Roedy sitting on a nuclear button?

[Mike Colburn]

"Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message news:<ZDy3d.91018$XP3.24379@edtnps84>...
> ± wrote:
> || http://www.thesmokinggun.com/bush/bush.html
> ||
> || If George W. Bush ends up in the White House, The Smoking Gun would
> || like to be the first web outfit to formally offer Dubya an artifact
> || for his future presidential library. The Republican's wacky
> || performance in this 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after
> || Bush went cold turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
> || generations.
> ||
> || The video was shot at the August 29, 1992 wedding of Jamie Weiss, the
> || daughter of Dubya's close friends Mike and Nancy Weiss. Mike, a
> || Lubbock, Texas lawyer and CPA, was Bush's campaign chairman during
> || his first political race (an unsuccessful 1978 congressional bid)
> || and was one of the Texas governor's earliest political appointments.
> || Nancy, also a Bush appointee, had a prime speaking slot on the final
> || night of the Republican convention. She told the crowd, "I wish you
> || could see how he reaches out to people, teasing those who can take
> || it and protecting those who can't."
> ||
> || Indeed, what a teaser!
> ||
> || When cameraman T. Patrick Murray filmed Bush during the wedding
> || reception at a Lubbock country club, the future governor took some
> || rambling--and we presume good-natured--swipes at the newlyweds, the
> || bride's parents, and her brother Kelly (Bush was being quizzed by a
> || member of the bridal party). We love the part where teetotaler George
> || actually disses two of the Weisses for supposedly not drinking or
> || smoking. And as for those weird Don King-like "only in America"
> || cracks--not to mention what's in that glass--your guess is as good as
> || TSG's.
> ||
> || Bush's wacky wedding performance:
> ||
> || http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
>
> Bush is president. What are YOU? Take your OWN inventory, bud!

Right, right, Jesus Jr. "If your slate is clean, blah, blah, blah..."
Bush is the president of the most powerful country in the world...not
your damned neighbor. You're neighbor can get hammered, slide behind
the wheel of his car and kill a few people. Not a pretty picture, but
Bush can get pie-eyed and blow up the whole fucking world! Then there
won't be any goddam slates, clean or otherwise.

If you're comfortable with an alcoholic in the White House, maybe you
should be checkin' your own inventory, "bud"...for a brain. Bush says
he went cold turkey in '86. Obviously he has fallen off the wagon at
LEAST once, thus, he's at least certainly in denial, a classic
alcoholic symptom. If you think these are isolated incidents, I'll
wager their are more episodes of his binge drinking that his
"advisors" (read: Bush = meal ticket) have covered up over the years.
Thank god there are fail safes that *should* prevent Bush from blowing
us to kingdom come...provided they all don't get shitfaced together.

[Roedy Green]

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:53:16 GMT, "Cartilage Man"
<Italk@youlisten.com> wrote or quoted :

>
>Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking OTHERS?

I don't drink and never have. It is not as though I am gossiping
about my next door neighbour. I am trying to protect the world from
nuclear war.

If Bush is too shitfaced to deal with a nuclear emergency, we could
ALL end up dead. It is like demanding a drunk not drive.


--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

[Roedy Green]

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:52:41 GMT, "Cartilage Man"
<Italk@youlisten.com> wrote or quoted :

>Bush is president. What are YOU? Take your OWN inventory, bud!

What relevance has that to whether Bush is fit to govern?


--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

[Tammy]

"Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message news:<wEy3d.91030$XP3.27940@edtnps84>...
> Roedy Green wrote:
> || On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ± <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com>
> || wrote or quoted :
> ||
> ||| The Republican's wacky performance in this
> ||| 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold turkey
> ||| in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future generations.
> ||
> || The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he gets
> || plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink in 1986 but was
> || still drinking in 1992. If he is anything like a typical lying
> || alcoholic he STILL drinking today in Crawford getting so shitfaced he
> || can't tell the nuclear button from the doorbell.
> ||
> || I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with your lives
> || that way.
>
> Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking OTHERS?
>
>
> ||
> || http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
> || --
> || Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
> || Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
> || See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

Don't forget his preztel incident.

Picture this scene. George W. Bush is watching a football game with a
few of his buddies. They are downing beer, and getting a bit tipsy.
Bush is eating pretzels. Bush gets tipsy and falls down from a pretzel
touching a nerve in his throat. A "common" occurance that no one has
ever heard of before. That is what the White House wants you to
believe.

I find it hard to believe that the president gets tipzy from pretzels.

[Roedy Green]

On 20 Sep 2004 09:43:18 -0700, michael.p.colburn@dartmouth.edu (Mike
Colburn) wrote or quoted :

>If you think these are isolated incidents, I'll
>wager their are more episodes of his binge drinking that his
>"advisors" (read: Bush = meal ticket) have covered up over the years.

We have all of Bush's "accidents", e.g. fight with the pretzel.

He is always falling down and injuring himself.

He "fell off his bicycle".

He even managed to fall off a Segway.

He hides out for weeks at a time, taking more time off than any
president in history, in seclusion in Crawford.

This is not exactly the most relaxed period of American history. What
the fuck is he doing down there, and why does he not entertain
visitors?

His wife is an alcoholic, and his kids are heavy drinkers. That makes
it ten times more difficult to stay on the wagon.

We know he lied at least once about his sobriety. He still has not
admitted the lie, even though there is a video to prove it. Go to AA
and ask about "denial is not just a river in Egypt" and what it
signifies. Dollars to donuts Bush is STILL binge drinking.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

[Cartilage Man]

John wrote:
|| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
|| news:<ZDy3d.91018$XP3.24379@edtnps84>...
||| ± wrote:
||||| http://www.thesmokinggun.com/bush/bush.html
|||||
||||| If George W. Bush ends up in the White House, The Smoking Gun
||||| would like to be the first web outfit to formally offer Dubya an
||||| artifact for his future presidential library. The Republican's
||||| wacky performance in this 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years
||||| after Bush went cold turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved
||||| for future generations.
|||||
||||| The video was shot at the August 29, 1992 wedding of Jamie Weiss,
||||| the daughter of Dubya's close friends Mike and Nancy Weiss. Mike,
||||| a Lubbock, Texas lawyer and CPA, was Bush's campaign chairman
||||| during his first political race (an unsuccessful 1978
||||| congressional bid) and was one of the Texas governor's earliest
||||| political appointments. Nancy, also a Bush appointee, had a prime
||||| speaking slot on the final night of the Republican convention.
||||| She told the crowd, "I wish you could see how he reaches out to
||||| people, teasing those who can take it and protecting those who
||||| can't."
|||||
||||| Indeed, what a teaser!
|||||
||||| When cameraman T. Patrick Murray filmed Bush during the wedding
||||| reception at a Lubbock country club, the future governor took some
||||| rambling--and we presume good-natured--swipes at the newlyweds,
||||| the bride's parents, and her brother Kelly (Bush was being
||||| quizzed by a member of the bridal party). We love the part where
||||| teetotaler George actually disses two of the Weisses for
||||| supposedly not drinking or smoking. And as for those weird Don
||||| King-like "only in America" cracks--not to mention what's in that
||||| glass--your guess is as good as TSG's.
|||||
||||| Bush's wacky wedding performance:
|||||
||||| http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
|||
||| Bush is president. What are YOU? Take your OWN inventory, bud!
||
|| That's right. Bush was selected president. The inventory being taken
|| since---in just lives: 9/11, Tora Bora, Iraq, etc ---while OBL
|| remains
|| at large.

If faggot LIEbrawls like you ran America, we'd all be speaking German,
Japanese, Italian, Russian, Chinese or Arabic by now. FOAD.

[Cartilage Man]

Ashland Henderson wrote:
|| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
|| news:<wEy3d.91030$XP3.27940@edtnps84>...
||| Roedy Green wrote:
||||| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ± <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com>
||||| wrote or quoted :
|||||
|||||| The Republican's wacky performance in this
|||||| 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold
|||||| turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
|||||| generations.
|||||
||||| The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he gets
||||| plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink in 1986 but
||||| was still drinking in 1992. If he is anything like a typical
||||| lying alcoholic he STILL drinking today in Crawford getting so
||||| shitfaced he can't tell the nuclear button from the doorbell.
|||||
||||| I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with your
||||| lives that way.
|||
||| Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking OTHERS?
||
|| Is Roedy sitting on a nuclear button?

More likely Roedy is sitting on his arse, sucking on the public teat.

[Cartilage Man]

Mike Colburn wrote:
|| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
|| news:<ZDy3d.91018$XP3.24379@edtnps84>...
||| ± wrote:
||||| http://www.thesmokinggun.com/bush/bush.html
|||||
||||| If George W. Bush ends up in the White House, The Smoking Gun
||||| would like to be the first web outfit to formally offer Dubya an
||||| artifact for his future presidential library. The Republican's
||||| wacky performance in this 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years
||||| after Bush went cold turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved
||||| for future generations.
|||||
||||| The video was shot at the August 29, 1992 wedding of Jamie Weiss,
||||| the daughter of Dubya's close friends Mike and Nancy Weiss. Mike,
||||| a Lubbock, Texas lawyer and CPA, was Bush's campaign chairman
||||| during his first political race (an unsuccessful 1978
||||| congressional bid) and was one of the Texas governor's earliest
||||| political appointments. Nancy, also a Bush appointee, had a prime
||||| speaking slot on the final night of the Republican convention.
||||| She told the crowd, "I wish you could see how he reaches out to
||||| people, teasing those who can take it and protecting those who
||||| can't."
|||||
||||| Indeed, what a teaser!
|||||
||||| When cameraman T. Patrick Murray filmed Bush during the wedding
||||| reception at a Lubbock country club, the future governor took some
||||| rambling--and we presume good-natured--swipes at the newlyweds,
||||| the bride's parents, and her brother Kelly (Bush was being
||||| quizzed by a member of the bridal party). We love the part where
||||| teetotaler George actually disses two of the Weisses for
||||| supposedly not drinking or smoking. And as for those weird Don
||||| King-like "only in America" cracks--not to mention what's in that
||||| glass--your guess is as good as TSG's.
|||||
||||| Bush's wacky wedding performance:
|||||
||||| http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
|||
||| Bush is president. What are YOU? Take your OWN inventory, bud!
||
|| Right, right, Jesus Jr. "If your slate is clean, blah, blah,
|| blah..."
|| Bush is the president of the most powerful country in the world...not
|| your damned neighbor. You're neighbor can get hammered, slide behind
|| the wheel of his car and kill a few people. Not a pretty picture,
|| but
|| Bush can get pie-eyed and blow up the whole fucking world! Then
|| there
|| won't be any goddam slates, clean or otherwise.
||
|| If you're comfortable with an alcoholic in the White House, maybe you
|| should be checkin' your own inventory, "bud"...for a brain. Bush
|| says
|| he went cold turkey in '86. Obviously he has fallen off the wagon at
|| LEAST once, thus, he's at least certainly in denial, a classic
|| alcoholic symptom. If you think these are isolated incidents, I'll
|| wager their are more episodes of his binge drinking that his
|| "advisors" (read: Bush = meal ticket) have covered up over the years.
|| Thank god there are fail safes that *should* prevent Bush from
|| blowing
|| us to kingdom come...provided they all don't get shitfaced together.

I much prefer Bush in the White House than some limp-wristed fag LIEbrawl
like you.

[Cartilage Man]

Roedy Green wrote:
|| On 20 Sep 2004 09:43:18 -0700, michael.p.colburn@dartmouth.edu (Mike
|| Colburn) wrote or quoted :
||
||| If you think these are isolated incidents, I'll
||| wager their are more episodes of his binge drinking that his
||| "advisors" (read: Bush = meal ticket) have covered up over the
||| years.
||
|| We have all of Bush's "accidents", e.g. fight with the pretzel.
||
|| He is always falling down and injuring himself.
||
|| He "fell off his bicycle".
||
|| He even managed to fall off a Segway.
||
|| He hides out for weeks at a time, taking more time off than any
|| president in history, in seclusion in Crawford.
||
|| This is not exactly the most relaxed period of American history.
|| What the fuck is he doing down there, and why does he not entertain
|| visitors?
||
|| His wife is an alcoholic, and his kids are heavy drinkers. That
|| makes it ten times more difficult to stay on the wagon.
||
|| We know he lied at least once about his sobriety. He still has not
|| admitted the lie, even though there is a video to prove it. Go to AA
|| and ask about "denial is not just a river in Egypt" and what it
|| signifies. Dollars to donuts Bush is STILL binge drinking.

Dollars to donuts YOU are still binge drinking.


||
|| http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
|| --
|| Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
|| Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
|| See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

[Cartilage Man]

Roedy Green wrote:
|| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:53:16 GMT, "Cartilage Man"
|| <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote or quoted :
||
|||
||| Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking OTHERS?
||
|| I don't drink and never have. It is not as though I am gossiping
|| about my next door neighbour. I am trying to protect the world from
|| nuclear war.

YOU probably have rubbers sheets on your bed to prevent you mattress from
being stained by your nocturnal emissions, due to your lack of a sex life.
Even your hand rejects you.


||
|| If Bush is too shitfaced to deal with a nuclear emergency, we could
|| ALL end up dead. It is like demanding a drunk not drive.
||
||
|| --
|| Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
|| Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
|| See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

[Cartilage Man]

Roedy Green wrote:
|| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:52:41 GMT, "Cartilage Man"
|| <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote or quoted :
||
||| Bush is president. What are YOU? Take your OWN inventory, bud!
||
|| What relevance has that to whether Bush is fit to govern?

What relevance is your ability to breathe?

||
||
|| --
|| Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
|| Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
|| See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

[Cartilage Man]

Tammy wrote:
|| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
|| news:<wEy3d.91030$XP3.27940@edtnps84>...
||| Roedy Green wrote:
||||| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ± <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com>
||||| wrote or quoted :
|||||
|||||| The Republican's wacky performance in this
|||||| 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold
|||||| turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
|||||| generations.
|||||
||||| The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he gets
||||| plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink in 1986 but
||||| was still drinking in 1992. If he is anything like a typical
||||| lying alcoholic he STILL drinking today in Crawford getting so
||||| shitfaced he can't tell the nuclear button from the doorbell.
|||||
||||| I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with your
||||| lives that way.
|||
||| Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking OTHERS?
|||
|||
|||||
||||| http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
||||| --
||||| Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
||||| Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
||||| See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
||
|| Don't forget his preztel incident.
||
|| Picture this scene. George W. Bush is watching a football game with a
|| few of his buddies. They are downing beer, and getting a bit tipsy.
|| Bush is eating pretzels. Bush gets tipsy and falls down from a
|| pretzel
|| touching a nerve in his throat. A "common" occurance that no one has
|| ever heard of before. That is what the White House wants you to
|| believe.
||
|| I find it hard to believe that the president gets tipzy from
|| pretzels.

Or that you get tipsy from ingesting cum.

[F.H.]

Cartilage Man wrote:

> Tammy wrote:

> || I find it hard to believe that the president gets tipzy from
> || pretzels.

> Or that you get tipsy from ingesting cum.

Spare us the details of your personal experiences, pleeeese.

[David Moffitt]

Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!! :o)

[F.H.]

David Moffitt wrote:

> Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!! :o)

Yeah, right. More like about Rove pulling off another dirty trick.
Right wing blog (with no experience in validating documents) does an
expose within an hour and then refuses interviews. Heh.

[Ashland Henderson]

"Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message news:<1xG3d.63791$KU5.14071@edtnps89>...
> Ashland Henderson wrote:
> || "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
> || news:<wEy3d.91030$XP3.27940@edtnps84>...
> ||| Roedy Green wrote:
> ||||| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ± <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com>
> ||||| wrote or quoted :
> |||||
> |||||| The Republican's wacky performance in this
> |||||| 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold
> |||||| turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
> |||||| generations.
> |||||
> ||||| The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he gets
> ||||| plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink in 1986 but
> ||||| was still drinking in 1992. If he is anything like a typical
> ||||| lying alcoholic he STILL drinking today in Crawford getting so
> ||||| shitfaced he can't tell the nuclear button from the doorbell.
> |||||
> ||||| I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with your
> ||||| lives that way.
> |||
> ||| Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking OTHERS?
> ||
> || Is Roedy sitting on a nuclear button?
>
> More likely Roedy is sitting on his arse, sucking on the public teat.

Which is why no one really cares about his inventory. Bush now has done
much the same his whole life and now controls nuclear weapons. Which is
why everyone intelligent cares about his habits and proclivities. I'm
sorry you don't but that's the way it goes.

[forge]

In article <SyG3d.63794$KU5.47300@edtnps89>,
"Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote:

> Dollars to donuts YOU are still binge drinking.

Price of frickin' tea in China?

[forge]

In article <ywG3d.63790$KU5.22904@edtnps89>,
"Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote:

> If faggot LIEbrawls like you ran America, we'd all be speaking German,
> Japanese, Italian, Russian, Chinese or Arabic by now. FOAD.

Awesome rhetoric dude. Were you captain of the debate team?

[forge]

In article <JYK3d.8038$n16.6241@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
"David Moffitt" <moffitcl@prodigy.net> wrote:

> Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!! :o)

Except y'know, it's already been shown to be someone other than anyone
having jack to do with "the Kerry campaign."

[Cartilage Man]

forge wrote:
|| In article <ywG3d.63790$KU5.22904@edtnps89>,
|| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote:
||
||| If faggot LIEbrawls like you ran America, we'd all be speaking
||| German, Japanese, Italian, Russian, Chinese or Arabic by now. FOAD.
||
|| Awesome rhetoric dude. Were you captain of the debate team?

Why, yes, I was...as a matter of fact!

[Cartilage Man]

Ashland Henderson wrote:
|| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
|| news:<1xG3d.63791$KU5.14071@edtnps89>...
||| Ashland Henderson wrote:
||||| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
||||| news:<wEy3d.91030$XP3.27940@edtnps84>...
|||||| Roedy Green wrote:
|||||||| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ±
|||||||| <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com> wrote or quoted :
||||||||
||||||||| The Republican's wacky performance in this
||||||||| 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold
||||||||| turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
||||||||| generations.
||||||||
|||||||| The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he gets
|||||||| plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink in 1986
|||||||| but was still drinking in 1992. If he is anything like a
|||||||| typical lying alcoholic he STILL drinking today in Crawford
|||||||| getting so shitfaced he can't tell the nuclear button from the
|||||||| doorbell.
||||||||
|||||||| I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with your
|||||||| lives that way.
||||||
|||||| Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking OTHERS?
|||||
||||| Is Roedy sitting on a nuclear button?
|||
||| More likely Roedy is sitting on his arse, sucking on the public
||| teat.
||
|| Which is why no one really cares about his inventory. Bush now has
|| done
|| much the same his whole life and now controls nuclear weapons. Which
|| is
|| why everyone intelligent cares about his habits and proclivities. I'm
|| sorry you don't but that's the way it goes.

I certainly trust Dubya a LOT more than a whacked out LIEbrawl limp wrist
like you.

[Cartilage Man]

David Moffitt wrote:
|| Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!! :o)

No doubt! Kerry is electoral toast, his followers a bunch of limp-wristed
pansies.

[Cartilage Man]

F.H. wrote:
|| David Moffitt wrote:
||
||| Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!! :o)
||
|| Yeah, right. More like about Rove pulling off another dirty trick.
|| Right wing blog (with no experience in validating documents) does an
|| expose within an hour and then refuses interviews. Heh.

Give it up, you limp-wristed Bay Area fag boys.

[Cartilage Man]

forge wrote:
|| In article <JYK3d.8038$n16.6241@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
|| "David Moffitt" <moffitcl@prodigy.net> wrote:
||
||| Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!! :o)
||
|| Except y'know, it's already been shown to be someone other than
|| anyone having jack to do with "the Kerry campaign."

Only in the minds of the LIBERAL spin doctors.

[F.H.]

Cartilage Man wrote:
> F.H. wrote:
> || David Moffitt wrote:
> ||
> ||| Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!! :o)
> ||
> || Yeah, right. More like about Rove pulling off another dirty trick.
> || Right wing blog (with no experience in validating documents) does an
> || expose within an hour and then refuses interviews. Heh.
>
> Give it up, you limp-wristed Bay Area fag boys.

Your repeated use of the word "limp" has Freudian connotations. Same
for "fag." Talk to your sponsor about this right away perv.

[Cartilage Man]

F.H. wrote:
|| Cartilage Man wrote:
||| F.H. wrote:
||||| David Moffitt wrote:
|||||
|||||| Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!!
|||||| :o)
|||||
||||| Yeah, right. More like about Rove pulling off another dirty
||||| trick. Right wing blog (with no experience in validating
||||| documents) does an expose within an hour and then refuses
||||| interviews. Heh.
|||
||| Give it up, you limp-wristed Bay Area fag boys.
||
|| Your repeated use of the word "limp" has Freudian connotations. Same
|| for "fag." Talk to your sponsor about this right away perv.

At least *I* have a sponsor unlike you, who has been dumped by how many
sponsors? 8 and counting?

[David Moffitt]

"forge" <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
news:forge-833CD0.00034721092004@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <JYK3d.8038$n16.6241@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
> "David Moffitt" <moffitcl@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> > Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!! :o)
>
> Except y'know, it's already been shown to be someone other than anyone
> having jack to do with "the Kerry campaign."

%%%%% Except he is a bigtime Kerry supporter. :o)

[Ashland Henderson]

"Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message news:<amO3d.64288$KU5.37989@edtnps89>...
> Ashland Henderson wrote:
> || "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
> || news:<1xG3d.63791$KU5.14071@edtnps89>...
> ||| Ashland Henderson wrote:
> ||||| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
> ||||| news:<wEy3d.91030$XP3.27940@edtnps84>...
> |||||| Roedy Green wrote:
> |||||||| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ±
> |||||||| <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com> wrote or quoted :
> ||||||||
> ||||||||| The Republican's wacky performance in this
> ||||||||| 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold
> ||||||||| turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
> ||||||||| generations.
> ||||||||
> |||||||| The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he gets
> |||||||| plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink in 1986
> |||||||| but was still drinking in 1992. If he is anything like a
> |||||||| typical lying alcoholic he STILL drinking today in Crawford
> |||||||| getting so shitfaced he can't tell the nuclear button from the
> |||||||| doorbell.
> ||||||||
> |||||||| I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with your
> |||||||| lives that way.
> ||||||
> |||||| Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking OTHERS?
> |||||
> ||||| Is Roedy sitting on a nuclear button?
> |||
> ||| More likely Roedy is sitting on his arse, sucking on the public
> ||| teat.
> ||
> || Which is why no one really cares about his inventory. Bush now has
> || done
> || much the same his whole life and now controls nuclear weapons. Which
> || is
> || why everyone intelligent cares about his habits and proclivities. I'm
> || sorry you don't but that's the way it goes.
>
> I certainly trust Dubya a LOT more than a whacked out LIEbrawl limp wrist
> like you.

Your choice. If you wish to post all of the usual stupid nonsense like
the above then your support isn't worth much of anything anyway.

[F.H.]

Cartilage Man wrote:

> F.H. wrote:
> || Cartilage Man wrote:
> ||| F.H. wrote:
> ||||| David Moffitt wrote:
> |||||
> |||||| Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!!
> |||||| :o)
> |||||
> ||||| Yeah, right. More like about Rove pulling off another dirty
> ||||| trick. Right wing blog (with no experience in validating
> ||||| documents) does an expose within an hour and then refuses
> ||||| interviews. Heh.
> |||
> ||| Give it up, you limp-wristed Bay Area fag boys.
> ||
> || Your repeated use of the word "limp" has Freudian connotations. Same
> || for "fag." Talk to your sponsor about this right away perv.
>
> At least *I* have a sponsor unlike you, who has been dumped by how many
> sponsors? 8 and counting?

When it comes to paying attention and being informed at least you are
consistent. I've had none.

[F.H.]

David Moffitt wrote:

> "forge" <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
> news:forge-833CD0.00034721092004@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>
>>In article <JYK3d.8038$n16.6241@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
>> "David Moffitt" <moffitcl@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!! :o)
>>
>>Except y'know, it's already been shown to be someone other than anyone
>>having jack to do with "the Kerry campaign."
>
>
> %%%%% Except he is a bigtime Kerry supporter. :o)

Actually, he had a long running feud with the Texas National Guard about
benefits. Might explain some animosity toward the silver spoon former
cheer leader turned conqueror who has his ass kissed and those who
kissed it.

[David Moffitt]

"F.H." <connectszzzu@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:TL_3d.1653$g42.750@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> David Moffitt wrote:
>
> > "forge" <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
> > news:forge-833CD0.00034721092004@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >
> >>In article <JYK3d.8038$n16.6241@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
> >> "David Moffitt" <moffitcl@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!! :o)
> >>
> >>Except y'know, it's already been shown to be someone other than anyone
> >>having jack to do with "the Kerry campaign."
> >
> >
> > %%%%% Except he is a bigtime Kerry supporter. :o)
>
> Actually, he had a long running feud with the Texas National Guard about
> benefits. Might explain some animosity toward the silver spoon former
> cheer leader turned conqueror who has his ass kissed and those who
> kissed it.

%%%% Hummmm--- So someone who was another silver spoon fed TNG is
complaining. Irony anyone?

Sigmund Freud -------Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom
involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility.




>

[Tammy]

"Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message news:<MAG3d.63797$KU5.16322@edtnps89>...
> Tammy wrote:
> || "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
> || news:<wEy3d.91030$XP3.27940@edtnps84>...
> ||| Roedy Green wrote:
> ||||| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ± <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com>
> ||||| wrote or quoted :
> |||||
> |||||| The Republican's wacky performance in this
> |||||| 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold
> |||||| turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
> |||||| generations.
> |||||
> ||||| The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he gets
> ||||| plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink in 1986 but
> ||||| was still drinking in 1992. If he is anything like a typical
> ||||| lying alcoholic he STILL drinking today in Crawford getting so
> ||||| shitfaced he can't tell the nuclear button from the doorbell.
> |||||
> ||||| I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with your
> ||||| lives that way.
> |||
> ||| Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking OTHERS?
> |||
> |||
> |||||
> ||||| http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
> ||||| --
> ||||| Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
> ||||| Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
> ||||| See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
> ||
> || Don't forget his preztel incident.
> ||
> || Picture this scene. George W. Bush is watching a football game with a
> || few of his buddies. They are downing beer, and getting a bit tipsy.
> || Bush is eating pretzels. Bush gets tipsy and falls down from a
> || pretzel
> || touching a nerve in his throat. A "common" occurance that no one has
> || ever heard of before. That is what the White House wants you to
> || believe.
> ||
> || I find it hard to believe that the president gets tipzy from
> || pretzels.
>
> Or that you get tipsy from ingesting cum.

Let me guess, you're voting for the deserter, right?

[F.H.]

Tammy wrote:
> "Cartilage Man" aka SHARX/pervert/defender of kiddie porn wrote:

>>Or that you get tipsy from ingesting cum.

> Let me guess, you're voting for the deserter, right?

He's not voting, he a little ditto head from Canada.

[Cartilage Man]

Ashland Henderson wrote:
|| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
|| news:<amO3d.64288$KU5.37989@edtnps89>...
||| Ashland Henderson wrote:
||||| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
||||| news:<1xG3d.63791$KU5.14071@edtnps89>...
|||||| Ashland Henderson wrote:
|||||||| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
|||||||| news:<wEy3d.91030$XP3.27940@edtnps84>...
||||||||| Roedy Green wrote:
||||||||||| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ±
||||||||||| <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com> wrote or quoted :
|||||||||||
|||||||||||| The Republican's wacky performance in this
|||||||||||| 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold
|||||||||||| turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
|||||||||||| generations.
|||||||||||
||||||||||| The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he
||||||||||| gets plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink
||||||||||| in 1986 but was still drinking in 1992. If he is anything
||||||||||| like a typical lying alcoholic he STILL drinking today in
||||||||||| Crawford getting so shitfaced he can't tell the nuclear
||||||||||| button from the doorbell.
|||||||||||
||||||||||| I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with
||||||||||| your lives that way.
|||||||||
||||||||| Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking
||||||||| OTHERS?
||||||||
|||||||| Is Roedy sitting on a nuclear button?
||||||
|||||| More likely Roedy is sitting on his arse, sucking on the public
|||||| teat.
|||||
||||| Which is why no one really cares about his inventory. Bush now has
||||| done
||||| much the same his whole life and now controls nuclear weapons.
||||| Which is
||||| why everyone intelligent cares about his habits and proclivities.
||||| I'm sorry you don't but that's the way it goes.
|||
||| I certainly trust Dubya a LOT more than a whacked out LIEbrawl limp
||| wrist like you.
||
|| Your choice. If you wish to post all of the usual stupid nonsense
|| like
|| the above then your support isn't worth much of anything anyway.

No doubt YOU will be stuck in some Bay Area glory hole cubicle all election
day and won't even bother to vote.

[Cartilage Man]

F.H. wrote:
|| Cartilage Man wrote:
||
||| F.H. wrote:
||||| Cartilage Man wrote:
|||||| F.H. wrote:
|||||||| David Moffitt wrote:
||||||||
||||||||| Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!!
|||||||||| o)
||||||||
|||||||| Yeah, right. More like about Rove pulling off another dirty
|||||||| trick. Right wing blog (with no experience in validating
|||||||| documents) does an expose within an hour and then refuses
|||||||| interviews. Heh.
||||||
|||||| Give it up, you limp-wristed Bay Area fag boys.
|||||
||||| Your repeated use of the word "limp" has Freudian connotations.
||||| Same for "fag." Talk to your sponsor about this right away perv.
|||
||| At least *I* have a sponsor unlike you, who has been dumped by how
||| many sponsors? 8 and counting?
||
|| When it comes to paying attention and being informed at least you are
|| consistent. I've had none.


Why am I NOT surprised?

[Cartilage Man]

F.H. wrote:
|| David Moffitt wrote:
||
||| "forge" <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
||| news:forge-833CD0.00034721092004@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
|||
|||| In article <JYK3d.8038$n16.6241@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
|||| "David Moffitt" <moffitcl@prodigy.net> wrote:
||||
||||
||||| Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!! :o)
||||
|||| Except y'know, it's already been shown to be someone other than
|||| anyone having jack to do with "the Kerry campaign."
|||
|||
||| %%%%% Except he is a bigtime Kerry supporter. :o)
||
|| Actually, he had a long running feud with the Texas National Guard
|| about benefits. Might explain some animosity toward the silver
|| spoon former cheer leader turned conqueror who has his ass kissed
|| and those who kissed it.

Well, HE's President and YOU..are dick all.

[Cartilage Man]

David Moffitt wrote:
|| "F.H." <connectszzzu@earthlink.net> wrote in message
|| news:TL_3d.1653$g42.750@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
||| David Moffitt wrote:
|||
|||| "forge" <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
|||| news:forge-833CD0.00034721092004@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
||||
||||| In article <JYK3d.8038$n16.6241@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
||||| "David Moffitt" <moffitcl@prodigy.net> wrote:
|||||
|||||
|||||| Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!!
|||||| :o)
|||||
||||| Except y'know, it's already been shown to be someone other than
||||| anyone having jack to do with "the Kerry campaign."
||||
||||
|||| %%%%% Except he is a bigtime Kerry supporter. :o)
|||
||| Actually, he had a long running feud with the Texas National Guard
||| about benefits. Might explain some animosity toward the silver
||| spoon former cheer leader turned conqueror who has his ass kissed
||| and those who kissed it.
||
|| %%%% Hummmm--- So someone who was another silver spoon fed TNG is
|| complaining. Irony anyone?

It just goes to show how hypocritical most DEMONrat types are.


||
|| Sigmund Freud -------Most people do not really want freedom, because
|| freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of
|| responsibility.

[Cartilage Man]

Tammy wrote:
|| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
|| news:<MAG3d.63797$KU5.16322@edtnps89>...
||| Tammy wrote:
||||| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
||||| news:<wEy3d.91030$XP3.27940@edtnps84>...
|||||| Roedy Green wrote:
|||||||| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ±
|||||||| <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com> wrote or quoted :
||||||||
||||||||| The Republican's wacky performance in this
||||||||| 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold
||||||||| turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
||||||||| generations.
||||||||
|||||||| The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he gets
|||||||| plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink in 1986
|||||||| but was still drinking in 1992. If he is anything like a
|||||||| typical lying alcoholic he STILL drinking today in Crawford
|||||||| getting so shitfaced he can't tell the nuclear button from the
|||||||| doorbell.
||||||||
|||||||| I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with your
|||||||| lives that way.
||||||
|||||| Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking OTHERS?
||||||
||||||
||||||||
|||||||| http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
|||||||| --
|||||||| Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
|||||||| Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
|||||||| See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java
|||||||| Glossary.
|||||
||||| Don't forget his preztel incident.
|||||
||||| Picture this scene. George W. Bush is watching a football game
||||| with a few of his buddies. They are downing beer, and getting a
||||| bit tipsy. Bush is eating pretzels. Bush gets tipsy and falls
||||| down from a pretzel
||||| touching a nerve in his throat. A "common" occurance that no one
||||| has ever heard of before. That is what the White House wants you
||||| to believe.
|||||
||||| I find it hard to believe that the president gets tipzy from
||||| pretzels.
|||
||| Or that you get tipsy from ingesting cum.
||
|| Let me guess, you're voting for the deserter, right?

Let ME guess, YOU are voting for someone who got a Purple Heart for a hang
nail.

[Cartilage Man]

F.H. wrote:
|| Tammy wrote:
||| "Cartilage Man" aka SHARX/pervert/defender of kiddie porn wrote:
||
|||| Or that you get tipsy from ingesting cum.
||
||| Let me guess, you're voting for the deserter, right?
||
|| He's not voting, he a little ditto head from Canada.

I'm not especially "little". Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

[F.H.]

Cartilage Man wrote:

> F.H. wrote:
> || Tammy wrote:
> ||| "Cartilage Man" aka SHARX/pervert/defender of kiddie porn wrote:
> ||
> |||| Or that you get tipsy from ingesting cum.
> ||
> ||| Let me guess, you're voting for the deserter, right?
> ||
> || He's not voting, he a little ditto head from Canada.
>
> I'm not especially "little". Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.


Got tweezers?

[F.H.]

Cartilage Man wrote:

> F.H. wrote:
> || Cartilage Man wrote:

> ||| At least *I* have a sponsor unlike you, who has been dumped by how
> ||| many sponsors? 8 and counting?

> || When it comes to paying attention and being informed at least you are
> || consistent. I've had none.

> Why am I NOT surprised?

If you didn't have a sponsor you wouldn't have a captive audience for
your redundant jokes about your inadequate anatomy. Doubt if you listen
to anyone giving advice except maybe another perv.

Gramps
Inspired by drunks but not led.

[Ashland Henderson]

"Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message news:<YG14d.106464$XP3.66857@edtnps84>...
> Ashland Henderson wrote:
> || "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
> || news:<amO3d.64288$KU5.37989@edtnps89>...
> ||| Ashland Henderson wrote:
> ||||| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
> ||||| news:<1xG3d.63791$KU5.14071@edtnps89>...
> |||||| Ashland Henderson wrote:
> |||||||| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
> |||||||| news:<wEy3d.91030$XP3.27940@edtnps84>...
> ||||||||| Roedy Green wrote:
> ||||||||||| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ±
> ||||||||||| <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com> wrote or quoted :
> |||||||||||
> |||||||||||| The Republican's wacky performance in this
> |||||||||||| 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold
> |||||||||||| turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
> |||||||||||| generations.
> |||||||||||
> ||||||||||| The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he
> ||||||||||| gets plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink
> ||||||||||| in 1986 but was still drinking in 1992. If he is anything
> ||||||||||| like a typical lying alcoholic he STILL drinking today in
> ||||||||||| Crawford getting so shitfaced he can't tell the nuclear
> ||||||||||| button from the doorbell.
> |||||||||||
> ||||||||||| I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with
> ||||||||||| your lives that way.
> |||||||||
> ||||||||| Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking
> ||||||||| OTHERS?
> ||||||||
> |||||||| Is Roedy sitting on a nuclear button?
> ||||||
> |||||| More likely Roedy is sitting on his arse, sucking on the public
> |||||| teat.
> |||||
> ||||| Which is why no one really cares about his inventory. Bush now has
> ||||| done
> ||||| much the same his whole life and now controls nuclear weapons.
> ||||| Which is
> ||||| why everyone intelligent cares about his habits and proclivities.
> ||||| I'm sorry you don't but that's the way it goes.
> |||
> ||| I certainly trust Dubya a LOT more than a whacked out LIEbrawl limp
> ||| wrist like you.
> ||
> || Your choice. If you wish to post all of the usual stupid nonsense
> || like
> || the above then your support isn't worth much of anything anyway.
>
> No doubt YOU will be stuck in some Bay Area glory hole cubicle all election
> day and won't even bother to vote.

LOL. Sorry but I've likely been voting longer than you've been alive and
will certainly vote again this election.

[Cartilage Man]

Ashland Henderson wrote:
|| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
|| news:<YG14d.106464$XP3.66857@edtnps84>...
||| Ashland Henderson wrote:
||||| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
||||| news:<amO3d.64288$KU5.37989@edtnps89>...
|||||| Ashland Henderson wrote:
|||||||| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
|||||||| news:<1xG3d.63791$KU5.14071@edtnps89>...
||||||||| Ashland Henderson wrote:
||||||||||| "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
||||||||||| news:<wEy3d.91030$XP3.27940@edtnps84>...
|||||||||||| Roedy Green wrote:
|||||||||||||| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ±
|||||||||||||| <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com> wrote or quoted :
||||||||||||||
||||||||||||||| The Republican's wacky performance in this
||||||||||||||| 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went
||||||||||||||| cold turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for
||||||||||||||| future generations.
||||||||||||||
|||||||||||||| The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he
|||||||||||||| gets plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink
|||||||||||||| in 1986 but was still drinking in 1992. If he is
|||||||||||||| anything like a typical lying alcoholic he STILL
|||||||||||||| drinking today in Crawford getting so shitfaced he can't
|||||||||||||| tell the nuclear button from the doorbell.
||||||||||||||
|||||||||||||| I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic
|||||||||||||| with your lives that way.
||||||||||||
|||||||||||| Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking
|||||||||||| OTHERS?
|||||||||||
||||||||||| Is Roedy sitting on a nuclear button?
|||||||||
||||||||| More likely Roedy is sitting on his arse, sucking on the
||||||||| public teat.
||||||||
|||||||| Which is why no one really cares about his inventory. Bush now
|||||||| has done
|||||||| much the same his whole life and now controls nuclear weapons.
|||||||| Which is
|||||||| why everyone intelligent cares about his habits and
|||||||| proclivities. I'm sorry you don't but that's the way it goes.
||||||
|||||| I certainly trust Dubya a LOT more than a whacked out LIEbrawl
|||||| limp wrist like you.
|||||
||||| Your choice. If you wish to post all of the usual stupid nonsense
||||| like
||||| the above then your support isn't worth much of anything anyway.
|||
||| No doubt YOU will be stuck in some Bay Area glory hole cubicle all
||| election day and won't even bother to vote.
||
|| LOL. Sorry but I've likely been voting longer than you've been alive
|| and
|| will certainly vote again this election.

I strongly doubt it.

[±]

Roedy Green wrote:
>
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ± <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com>
> wrote or quoted :
>
> >The Republican's wacky performance in this
> >1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold turkey in
> >July 1986--needs to be preserved for future generations.
>
> The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he gets
> plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink in 1986 but was
> still drinking in 1992. If he is anything like a typical lying
> alcoholic he STILL drinking today in Crawford getting so shitfaced he
> can't tell the nuclear button from the doorbell.
>
> I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with your lives
> that way.

I wouldn't:

http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair09012004.html

During the 1988 Republican convention, David Fink, a reporter with the
Hartford Courant, asked Bush what he talked about with his father when
they weren't jawing about politics. "Pussy," George W. quipped. Take
that mom.










>
> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
> --
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> Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
> See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.


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Cartilage Man wrote:
>
> ± wrote:
> || http://www.thesmokinggun.com/bush/bush.html
> ||
> || If George W. Bush ends up in the White House, The Smoking Gun would
> || like to be the first web outfit to formally offer Dubya an artifact
> || for his future presidential library. The Republican's wacky
> || performance in this 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after
> || Bush went cold turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
> || generations.
> ||
> || The video was shot at the August 29, 1992 wedding of Jamie Weiss, the
> || daughter of Dubya's close friends Mike and Nancy Weiss. Mike, a
> || Lubbock, Texas lawyer and CPA, was Bush's campaign chairman during
> || his first political race (an unsuccessful 1978 congressional bid)
> || and was one of the Texas governor's earliest political appointments.
> || Nancy, also a Bush appointee, had a prime speaking slot on the final
> || night of the Republican convention. She told the crowd, "I wish you
> || could see how he reaches out to people, teasing those who can take
> || it and protecting those who can't."
> ||
> || Indeed, what a teaser!
> ||
> || When cameraman T. Patrick Murray filmed Bush during the wedding
> || reception at a Lubbock country club, the future governor took some
> || rambling--and we presume good-natured--swipes at the newlyweds, the
> || bride's parents, and her brother Kelly (Bush was being quizzed by a
> || member of the bridal party). We love the part where teetotaler George
> || actually disses two of the Weisses for supposedly not drinking or
> || smoking. And as for those weird Don King-like "only in America"
> || cracks--not to mention what's in that glass--your guess is as good as
> || TSG's.
> ||
> || Bush's wacky wedding performance:
> ||
> || http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
>
> Bush is president. What are YOU? Take your OWN inventory, bud!

Just imagine Dubya downing twelve of these before he sent in all those
under-armed/armored troops into Falluja:

http://www.bedoper.com/snuh/images/drinkie.jpg







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Cory Bhreckan wrote:
>
> Cartilage Man wrote:
> >
> > ± wrote:
> > || http://www.thesmokinggun.com/bush/bush.html
> > ||
> > || If George W. Bush ends up in the White House, The Smoking Gun would
> > || like to be the first web outfit to formally offer Dubya an artifact
> > || for his future presidential library. The Republican's wacky
> > || performance in this 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after
> > || Bush went cold turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
> > || generations.
> > ||
> > || The video was shot at the August 29, 1992 wedding of Jamie Weiss, the
> > || daughter of Dubya's close friends Mike and Nancy Weiss. Mike, a
> > || Lubbock, Texas lawyer and CPA, was Bush's campaign chairman during
> > || his first political race (an unsuccessful 1978 congressional bid)
> > || and was one of the Texas governor's earliest political appointments.
> > || Nancy, also a Bush appointee, had a prime speaking slot on the final
> > || night of the Republican convention. She told the crowd, "I wish you
> > || could see how he reaches out to people, teasing those who can take
> > || it and protecting those who can't."
> > ||
> > || Indeed, what a teaser!
> > ||
> > || When cameraman T. Patrick Murray filmed Bush during the wedding
> > || reception at a Lubbock country club, the future governor took some
> > || rambling--and we presume good-natured--swipes at the newlyweds, the
> > || bride's parents, and her brother Kelly (Bush was being quizzed by a
> > || member of the bridal party). We love the part where teetotaler George
> > || actually disses two of the Weisses for supposedly not drinking or
> > || smoking. And as for those weird Don King-like "only in America"
> > || cracks--not to mention what's in that glass--your guess is as good as
> > || TSG's.
> > ||
> > || Bush's wacky wedding performance:
> > ||
> > || http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
> >
> > Bush is president.
>
> And a damn poor one too.

http://www.bedoper.com/snuh/images/economist.jpg














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stuart wrote:
>
> "±" <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> And you have never done anything stupid at a wedding?

Yeah - get married.








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John wrote:
>
> "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message news:<ZDy3d.91018$XP3.24379@edtnps84>...
> > ± wrote:
> > || http://www.thesmokinggun.com/bush/bush.html
> > ||
> > || If George W. Bush ends up in the White House, The Smoking Gun would
> > || like to be the first web outfit to formally offer Dubya an artifact
> > || for his future presidential library. The Republican's wacky
> > || performance in this 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after
> > || Bush went cold turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future
> > || generations.
> > ||
> > || The video was shot at the August 29, 1992 wedding of Jamie Weiss, the
> > || daughter of Dubya's close friends Mike and Nancy Weiss. Mike, a
> > || Lubbock, Texas lawyer and CPA, was Bush's campaign chairman during
> > || his first political race (an unsuccessful 1978 congressional bid)
> > || and was one of the Texas governor's earliest political appointments.
> > || Nancy, also a Bush appointee, had a prime speaking slot on the final
> > || night of the Republican convention. She told the crowd, "I wish you
> > || could see how he reaches out to people, teasing those who can take
> > || it and protecting those who can't."
> > ||
> > || Indeed, what a teaser!
> > ||
> > || When cameraman T. Patrick Murray filmed Bush during the wedding
> > || reception at a Lubbock country club, the future governor took some
> > || rambling--and we presume good-natured--swipes at the newlyweds, the
> > || bride's parents, and her brother Kelly (Bush was being quizzed by a
> > || member of the bridal party). We love the part where teetotaler George
> > || actually disses two of the Weisses for supposedly not drinking or
> > || smoking. And as for those weird Don King-like "only in America"
> > || cracks--not to mention what's in that glass--your guess is as good as
> > || TSG's.
> > ||
> > || Bush's wacky wedding performance:
> > ||
> > || http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
> >
> > Bush is president. What are YOU? Take your OWN inventory, bud!
>
> That's right. Bush was selected president. The inventory being taken
> since---in just lives: 9/11, Tora Bora, Iraq, etc ---while OBL remains
> at large.

http://www.dod.mil/transcripts/2004/tr20040914-secdef1302.html

Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld: "Iraqis are being killed, as
they were yesterday and the day before. At some point the Iraqis will
get tired of getting killed and we’ll have enough of the Iraqi security
forces that they can take over responsibility for governing that country
and we’ll be able to pare down the coalition security forces in the
country."

http://www.unknownnews.net/casualties.html

TOTAL KILLED IN AFGHANISTAN & IRAQ: 55,842

TOTAL SERIOUSLY INJURED IN AFGHANISTAN & IRAQ: 114,391







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Ashland Henderson wrote:
>
> "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message news:<wEy3d.91030$XP3.27940@edtnps84>...
> > Roedy Green wrote:
> > || On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ± <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com>
> > || wrote or quoted :
> > ||
> > ||| The Republican's wacky performance in this
> > ||| 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold turkey
> > ||| in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future generations.
> > ||
> > || The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he gets
> > || plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink in 1986 but was
> > || still drinking in 1992. If he is anything like a typical lying
> > || alcoholic he STILL drinking today in Crawford getting so shitfaced he
> > || can't tell the nuclear button from the doorbell.
> > ||
> > || I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with your lives
> > || that way.
> >
> > Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking OTHERS?
>
> Is Roedy sitting on a nuclear button?

My guess is a thick stick.






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Roedy Green wrote:
>
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:53:16 GMT, "Cartilage Man"
> <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote or quoted :
>
> >
> >Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking OTHERS?
>
> I don't drink and never have. It is not as though I am gossiping
> about my next door neighbour. I am trying to protect the world from
> nuclear war.
>
> If Bush is too shitfaced to deal with a nuclear emergency, we could
> ALL end up dead. It is like demanding a drunk not drive.

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0437/barrett.php

How Kerry could craft a Bin Laden commercial that makes him president
The Ad That Beats Bush
by Wayne Barrett
September 14th, 2004 10:05 AM


The ad starts with Bush and his September 14, 2001, bullhorn. This time,
though, it's a Kerry commercial that reminds swing-state Americans of
Bush's blood vow—precisely three years ago that "the people who knocked
down these buildings" would "hear all of us soon." The cowboy soundbites
that we would "smoke 'em out" track across the screen with any network's
footage of the "wanted dead or alive" culprits: Osama bin Laden, Ayman
al-Zawahiri, and Mullah Omar.

Then the camera moves on to anchors reporting that bin Laden was
cornered at Tora Bora, picked up on cell-phone intercepts commanding the
surrounded 2,000 Al Qaeda troops, but that U.S. commanders were allowing
mercenary Pashtuns to lead the fighting and Pakistanis to seal the
backside border. Next, news headlines blare that Special Forces and key
CIA operatives were prematurely pulled out of Afghanistan to prepare for
the war on Iraq. The last visual is of Bush momentarily forced at a
March 2002 press conference to discuss bin Laden: "I just don't spend
that much time on him, to be honest with ya."

The voice-over is Monica Gabrielle's, a 9-11 widow and leader. "My
husband died in tower two and the people who killed him have not heard
from us three years later. The president will not even talk about these
murderers. Sometimes he claims his administration has captured
two-thirds of Al Qaeda's lesser leaders; sometimes, three-quarters. The
9-11 Commission says one-quarter. Terrorists killed more people —625— in
2003 than in any year other than 2001. They wounded more than ever —
3,646 people. Even the president concedes that Saddam Hussein had
nothing to do with the attack that changed my life forever. Why have we
expended hundreds of times the resources and troops in Iraq than we have
in pursuit of the mass murderers who vow to hit us again? Anybody could
accept a good-faith effort that failed. But we cannot accept a so-called
war on terror that has never aggressively targeted the number one
terrorists."














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> --
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Tammy wrote:
>
> "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message news:<wEy3d.91030$XP3.27940@edtnps84>...
> > Roedy Green wrote:
> > || On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0700, ± <h0plibbb_oili@hotmail.com>
> > || wrote or quoted :
> > ||
> > ||| The Republican's wacky performance in this
> > ||| 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold turkey
> > ||| in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future generations.
> > ||
> > || The key points are both that Bush does not just drink, he gets
> > || plastered, and that he CLAIMS he took his last drink in 1986 but was
> > || still drinking in 1992. If he is anything like a typical lying
> > || alcoholic he STILL drinking today in Crawford getting so shitfaced he
> > || can't tell the nuclear button from the doorbell.
> > ||
> > || I can't believe you would trust an ADMITTED alcoholic with your lives
> > || that way.
> >
> > Ever take YOUR own inventory or are you too busy taking OTHERS?
> >
> >
> > ||
> > || http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
> > || --
> > || Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
> > || Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
> > || See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
>
> Don't forget his preztel incident.
>
> Picture this scene. George W. Bush is watching a football game with a
> few of his buddies. They are downing beer, and getting a bit tipsy.
> Bush is eating pretzels. Bush gets tipsy and falls down from a pretzel
> touching a nerve in his throat. A "common" occurance that no one has
> ever heard of before. That is what the White House wants you to
> believe.
>
> I find it hard to believe that the president gets tipzy from pretzels.

http://slate.com/id/2106773

George W. at Yale. A witness remembers a "roaring drunk" Bush doing the
Alligator at a fraternity kegger. A frat brother says Bush "wasn't an
ass man." Another friend concurs: "Poor Georgie. He couldn't even relate
to women unless he was loaded - There were just too many stories of him
turning up dead drunk on dates." W. lovingly tends to his frat brothers
but derides other Yalies as "liberal pussies."







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Roedy Green wrote:
>
> On 20 Sep 2004 09:43:18 -0700, michael.p.colburn@dartmouth.edu (Mike
> Colburn) wrote or quoted :
>
> >If you think these are isolated incidents, I'll
> >wager their are more episodes of his binge drinking that his
> >"advisors" (read: Bush = meal ticket) have covered up over the years.
>
> We have all of Bush's "accidents", e.g. fight with the pretzel.
>
> He is always falling down and injuring himself.
>
> He "fell off his bicycle".
>
> He even managed to fall off a Segway.
>
> He hides out for weeks at a time, taking more time off than any
> president in history, in seclusion in Crawford.
>
> This is not exactly the most relaxed period of American history. What
> the fuck is he doing down there, and why does he not entertain
> visitors?
>
> His wife is an alcoholic, and his kids are heavy drinkers. That makes
> it ten times more difficult to stay on the wagon.
>
> We know he lied at least once about his sobriety. He still has not
> admitted the lie, even though there is a video to prove it. Go to AA
> and ask about "denial is not just a river in Egypt" and what it
> signifies. Dollars to donuts Bush is STILL binge drinking.

Despite our political differences, I wouldn't mind get shitfaced with
the guy.






>
> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
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Cartilage Man wrote:
>
> John wrote:
> || "Cartilage Man" <Italk@youlisten.com> wrote in message
> || news:<ZDy3d.91018$XP3.24379@edtnps84>...
> ||| ± wrote:
> ||||| http://www.thesmokinggun.com/bush/bush.html
> |||||
> ||||| If George W. Bush ends up in the White House, The Smoking Gun
> ||||| would like to be the first web outfit to formally offer Dubya an
> ||||| artifact for his future presidential library. The Republican's
> ||||| wacky performance in this 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years
> ||||| after Bush went cold turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved
> ||||| for future generations.
> |||||
> ||||| The video was shot at the August 29, 1992 wedding of Jamie Weiss,
> ||||| the daughter of Dubya's close friends Mike and Nancy Weiss. Mike,
> ||||| a Lubbock, Texas lawyer and CPA, was Bush's campaign chairman
> ||||| during his first political race (an unsuccessful 1978
> ||||| congressional bid) and was one of the Texas governor's earliest
> ||||| political appointments. Nancy, also a Bush appointee, had a prime
> ||||| speaking slot on the final night of the Republican convention.
> ||||| She told the crowd, "I wish you could see how he reaches out to
> ||||| people, teasing those who can take it and protecting those who
> ||||| can't."
> |||||
> ||||| Indeed, what a teaser!
> |||||
> ||||| When cameraman T. Patrick Murray filmed Bush during the wedding
> ||||| reception at a Lubbock country club, the future governor took some
> ||||| rambling--and we presume good-natured--swipes at the newlyweds,
> ||||| the bride's parents, and her brother Kelly (Bush was being
> ||||| quizzed by a member of the bridal party). We love the part where
> ||||| teetotaler George actually disses two of the Weisses for
> ||||| supposedly not drinking or smoking. And as for those weird Don
> ||||| King-like "only in America" cracks--not to mention what's in that
> ||||| glass--your guess is as good as TSG's.
> |||||
> ||||| Bush's wacky wedding performance:
> |||||
> ||||| http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/bush/bush_tsg.mov
> |||
> ||| Bush is president. What are YOU? Take your OWN inventory, bud!
> ||
> || That's right. Bush was selected president. The inventory being taken
> || since---in just lives: 9/11, Tora Bora, Iraq, etc ---while OBL
> || remains
> || at large.
>
> If faggot LIEbrawls like you ran America, we'd all be speaking German,
> Japanese, Italian, Russian, Chinese or Arabic by now. FOAD.

Unlikely, since most monolingual Americans can barely handle English.








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David Moffitt wrote:
>
> Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!! :o)

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/20/bush_guard_records/index.html

Bush in the National Guard: A primer
The flap over dubious documents has obscured the real story. Here it is.

- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Eric Boehlert

Sept. 20, 2004 | Under order from U.S. District Court Judge Harold
Baer Jr. to find and make public any of President Bush's military
records that had not already been released, the Pentagon late on Friday
released yet another batch of documents. None of the new paperwork
addresses the lingering questions surrounding Bush's service in the
Texas Air National Guard during the height of the Vietnam War, how
Bush's own records indicate he missed mandatory duty for months at a
time, or how he managed to go unsupervised for nearly two years. The
federal court order stems from an ongoing lawsuit filed by the
Associated Press in June to obtain all of Bush's relevant records. In
February, when White House aides told reporters they had made public
"absolutely everything" about Bush's military service, the AP noticed
several obvious gaps and went to court to obtain additional documents.

The lawsuit had already resulted in the disclosure of previously
unreleased flight logs that indicated that Bush, a fully trained pilot
since 1970, often flew two-seater training jets in March 1972, shortly
before he piloted a plane for the last time. This despite his promise,
when he entered the Guard's training program, to serve as a full pilot
until 1974.

What is also already known is that in the spring of 1972, with 770 days
left of required duty, Bush unilaterally decided that he was done
fulfilling his military obligation. Also in the spring of 1972, Bush
refused to take a physical and quickly cleared out of his Guard base in
Houston, heading off to work on the Senate campaign of Winton "Red"
Blount in Alabama. Referring to that period, one of Bush's Guard flying
buddies remarked to USA Today in 2002, "It was an irrational time in his
life."

It may have been an irrational time for him, but Bush managed to focus
intently on not serving in the Guard in any significant capacity again.
His public records paint a portrait of a Guardsman who, with the
cooperation of his Texas Air National Guard superiors, simply flouted
regulation after regulation (more than 30 by Salon's count) indifferent
to his signed obligation to serve.

The details can get a bit obscure, but the basic timeline of Bush's
service between 1972 and 1974 is easy to follow: In spring 1972 Bush
attempted to permanently transfer to a non-flying Alabama Guard unit.
During the second half of 1972 he missed many of his required weekend
training drills. At the end of the year he returned to Houston. Bush
then had to make up the absences he had stacked up while in Alabama
through "substitute service" training in 1972 and 1973. In July 1973,
Bush asked to be released by the Texas Air National Guard so he could
attend Harvard Business School. In September, the Guard let him go, and
the Air Force officially dismissed Bush in November 1974.

Yet looking at the already available public records, they raise as many
questions as they answer about Bush and his surrogates' accounts of his
service -- because from his Alabama transfer to his missed physical to
his substitute service to his "inactive status" to his honorable
discharge, it was as if Air Force and Guard regulations simply did not
apply to Lt. Bush. He seemed to become a ghostlike figure, doing -- or
not doing -- whatever he pleased, unsupervised and unrated by his
commanders. One serious question is whether some of Bush's superiors may
have played an active role in hiding Bush's shoddy record -- pressured
perhaps by powerful politicians -- by crediting him with crucial makeup
training days that appear dubious in nature.

Bush failed to attend weekend drills in May, June, July, August and
September

None of the discrepancies detailed below between Bush's accounts and
what his records show are based on the

disputed memos reportedly written by Lt. Col. Jerry Killian that were
aired by CBS News two weeks ago. CBS

executives now concede they have concerns about the memos' authenticity,
but stress that the contents accurately reflect the turmoil Bush and his
chronic absenteeism created for the Texas Air National Guard, as
reported by others who worked with Killian. In an interview with New
Hampshire's Manchester Union Leader on Saturday, Bush would not say the
documents were forgeries. He added, "There are a lot of questions about
the documents and they need to be answered." But the authenticity of the
memos, which contain very few facts about Bush's actual service, is a
sideshow in the effort to determine the truth about Bush's military
service.

Consider the following anomalies:

(Note that statements below that certain documents do not exist, or that
Bush failed to obtain proper authorization, are based on the White
House's repeated insistence that all relevant Bush military documents
have been made public. Some of these documents, of course, may yet turn
up.)

* Bush flew for the last time on April 16, 1972. Upon entering the
Guard, Bush agreed to fly for 60 months. After his training was
complete, he owed 53 months of flying.

But he flew for only 22 of those 53 months.

* Upon being accepted for pilot training, Bush promised to serve with
his parent (Texas) Guard unit for five years once he completed his pilot
training.

But Bush served as a pilot with his parent unit for just two years.

* In May 1972 Bush left the Houston Guard base for Alabama. According to
Air Force regulations, Bush was supposed to obtain prior authorization
before leaving Texas to join a new Guard unit in Alabama.

But Bush failed to get the authorization.

* In requesting a permanent transfer to a nonflying unit in Alabama in
1972, Bush was supposed to sign an

acknowledgment that he received relocation counseling.

But no such document exists.

* He was supposed to receive a certification of satisfactory
participation from his unit.

But Bush did not.

* He was supposed to sign and give a letter of resignation to his Texas
unit commander.

But Bush did not.

* He was supposed to receive discharge orders from the Texas Air
National Guard adjutant general.

But Bush did not.

* He was supposed to receive new assignment orders for the Air Force
Reserves.

But Bush did not.

* On his transfer request Bush was asked to list his "permanent
address."

But he wrote down a post office box number for the campaign he was
working for on a temporary basis.

* On his transfer request Bush was asked to list his Air Force specialty
code.

But Bush, an F-102 pilot, erroneously wrote the code for an F-89 or F-94
pilot. Both planes had been retired from service at the time. Bush, an
officer, made this mistake more than once on the same form.

* On May 26, 1972, Lt. Col. Reese Bricken, commander of the 9921st Air
Reserve Squadron at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama, informed Bush
that a transfer to his nonflying unit would be unsuitable for a fully
trained pilot such as he was, and that Bush would not be able to fulfill
any of his remaining two years of flight obligation.

But Bush pressed on with his transfer request nonetheless.

* Bush's transfer request to the 9921st was eventually denied by the Air
Reserve Personnel Center in Denver, which meant he was still obligated
to attend training sessions one weekend a month with his Texas unit in
Houston.

But Bush failed to attend weekend drills in May, June, July, August and
September. He also failed to request

permission to make up those days at the time.

* According to Air Force regulations, "[a] member whose attendance
record is poor must be closely monitored. When the unexcused absences
reach one less than the maximum permitted [sic] he must be counseled and
a record made of the counseling. If the member is unavailable he must be
advised by personal letter."

But there is no record that Bush ever received such counseling, despite
the fact that he missed drills for months on end.

* Bush's unit was obligated to report in writing to the Personnel Center
at Randolph Air Force Base whenever a monthly review of records showed
unsatisfactory participation for an officer.

But his unit never reported Bush's absenteeism to Randolph Air Force
Base.

* In July 1972 Bush failed to take a mandatory Guard physical exam,
which is a serious offense for a Guard pilot. The move should have
prompted the formation of a Flying Evaluation Board to investigation the
circumstances surrounding Bush's failure.

But no such FEB was convened.

* Once Bush was grounded for failing to take a physical, his commanders
could have filed a report on why the

suspension should be lifted.

But Bush's commanders made no such request.

* On Sept. 15, 1972, Bush was ordered to report to Lt. Col. William
Turnipseed, the deputy commander of the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance
Group in Montgomery, Ala., to participate in training on the weekends of
Oct. 7-8 and Nov. 4-5, 1972.

But there's no evidence Bush ever showed up on those dates. In 2000,
Turnipseed told the Boston Globe that Bush did not report for duty. (A
self-professed Bush supporter, Turnipseed has since backed off from his
categorical claim.)

* However, according to the White House-released pay records, which are
unsigned, Bush was credited for serving in Montgomery on Oct. 28-29 and
Nov. 11-14, 1972. Those makeup dates should have produced a paper trail,
including Bush's formal request as well as authorization and supervision
documents.

But no such documents exist, and the dates he was credited for do not
match the dates when the Montgomery unit

assembled for drills.

Bush went without a required Guard physical for 42 months

When Guardsmen miss monthly drills, or "unit training assemblies"
(UTAs), they are allowed to make them up through substitute service and
earn crucial points toward their service record. Drills are worth one
point on a weekday and two points on each weekend day. For Bush's
substitute service on Nov. 13-14, 1972, he was awarded four points, two
for each day.

But Nov. 13 and 14 were both weekdays. He should have been awarded two
points.

Bush earned six points for service on Jan. 4-6, 1973 -- a Thursday,
Friday and Saturday.

But he should have earned four points, one each for Thursday and Friday,
two for Saturday.

* Weekday training was the exception in the Guard. For example, from May
1968 to May 1972, when Bush was in good standing, he was not credited
with attending a single weekday UTA.

But after 1972, when Bush's absenteeism accelerated, nearly half of his
credited UTAs were for weekdays.

* To maintain unit cohesiveness, the parameters for substitute service
are tightly controlled; drills must be made up within 15 days
immediately before, or 30 days immediately after, the originally
scheduled drill, according to Guard regulations at the time.

But more than half of the substitute service credits Bush received fell
outside that clear time frame. In one case, he made up a drill nine
weeks in advance.

* On Sept. 29, 1972, Bush was formally grounded for failing to take a
flight physical. The letter, written by Maj. Gen. Francis Greenlief,
chief of the National Guard Bureau, ordered Bush to acknowledge in
writing that he had received word of his grounding.

But no such written acknowledgment exists. In 2000, Bush spokesman Dan
Bartlett told the Boston Globe that Bush couldn't remember if he'd ever
been grounded.

* Bartlett also told the Boston Globe that Bush didn't undergo a
physical while in Alabama because his family doctor was in Houston.

But only Air Force flight surgeons can give flight physicals to pilots.

* Guard members are required to take a physical exam every 12 months.

But Bush's last Guard physical was in May 1971. Bush was formally
discharged from the service in November 1974, which means he went
without a required physical for 42 months.

* Bush's unsatisfactory participation in the fall of 1972 should have
prompted the Texas Air National Guard to write to his local draft board
and inform the board that Bush had become eligible for the draft. Guard
units across the country contacted draft boards every Sept. 15 to update
them on the status of local Guard members. Bush's absenteeism should
have prompted what's known as a DD Form 44, "Record of Military Status
of Registrant."

But there is no record of any such document having been sent to Bush's
draft board in Houston.

* Records released by the White House note that Bush received a military
dental exam in Alabama on Jan. 6, 1973.

But Bush's request to serve in Alabama covered only September, October
and November 1972. Why he would still be serving in Alabama months after
that remains unclear.

* Each of Bush's numerous substitute service requests should have formed
a lengthy paper trail consisting of AF Form 40a's, with the name of the
officer who authorized the training in advance, the signature of the
officer who supervised the training and Bush's own signature.

But no such documents exist.

* During his last year with the Texas Air National Guard, Bush missed
nearly two-thirds of his mandatory UTAs and made up some of them with
substitute service. Guard regulations allowed substitute service only in
circumstances that are "beyond the control" of the Guard member.

But neither Bush nor the Texas Air National Guard has ever explained
what the uncontrollable circumstances were that forced him to miss the
majority of his assigned drills in his last year.

* Bush supposedly returned to his Houston unit in April 1973 and served
two days.

But at the end of April, when Bush's Texas commanders had to rate him
for their annual report, they wrote that they could not do so: "Lt. Bush
has not been observed at this unit during the period of this report."

* On June 29, 1973, the Air Reserve Personnel Center in Denver
instructed Bush's commanders to get additional

information from his Alabama unit, where he had supposedly been
training, in order to better evaluate Bush's duty. The ARPC gave Texas a
deadline of Aug. 6 to get the information.

But Bush's commanders ignored the request.

* Bush was credited for attending four days of UTAs with his Texas unit
July 16-19, 1973. That was good for eight crucial points.

But that's not possible. Guard units hold only two UTAs each month --
one on a Saturday and one on a Sunday. Although Bush may well have made
up four days, they should not all have been counted as UTAs, since they
occur just twice a month. The other days are known as "Appropriate
Duty," or APDY.

* On July 30, 1973, Bush, preparing to attend Harvard Business School,
signed a statement acknowledging it was his responsibility to find
another unit in which to serve out the remaining nine months of his
commitment.

But Bush never contacted another unit in Massachusetts in which to
fulfill his obligation.

Despite the laundry list of Guard discrepancies, Bush, when asked about
his service this weekend, insisted, "I did everything [my superiors]
asked me to do."












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"F.H." wrote:
>
> David Moffitt wrote:
>
> > Laughing his ass off about Kerry campaign forging documents!! :o)
>
> Yeah, right. More like about Rove pulling off another dirty trick.
> Right wing blog (with no experience in validating documents) does an
> expose within an hour and then refuses interviews. Heh.

"The first public allegation that CBS News had used forged memos in its
report questioning President Bush's Air National Guard service" came
from "Harry W. MacDougald, an Atlanta lawyer with strong ties to
conservative Republican causes who had helped draft the petition urging
the Arkansas Supreme Court to disbar President Clinton after the Monica
S. Lewinsky scandal":

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-buckhead18sep18,1,1674359.story

THE RACE TO THE WHITE HOUSE
September 18, 2004
GOP Activist Made Allegations on CBS Memos
An Atlanta lawyer who helped get Clinton disbarred is the blogger who
called them fakes.

By Peter Wallsten, Times Staff Writer


WASHINGTON — It was the first public allegation that CBS News had used
forged memos in its report questioning President Bush's Air National
Guard service — a highly technical explanation posted on the Web within
hours of airtime, citing proportional spacing and font styles.

But it did not come from an expert in typography or typewriter history,
as some first thought. Instead, it was the work of Harry W. MacDougald,
an Atlanta lawyer with strong ties to conservative Republican causes who
had helped draft the petition urging the Arkansas Supreme Court to
disbar President Clinton after the Monica S. Lewinsky scandal, the Los
Angeles Times has learned.

The identity of "Buckhead" — a blogger previously known only by his
screen name on the site freerepublic.com and since lifted to folk hero
status in the conservative blogosphere — is likely to fuel speculation
among Democrats that the effort to discredit the memos was engineered by
Republicans eager to undermine reports that Bush received preferential
treatment in the Texas Air National Guard more than 30 years ago.

Republican officials have denied any involvement among those attempting
to debunk the CBS report.

Reached by telephone Friday, MacDougald, 46, confirmed that he was
Buckhead but declined to answer questions about his political background
or how he learned so much about the CBS documents so quickly.

"You can ask the questions, but I'm not going to answer them," he said.
"I'm just going to stick to doing no interviews."

Until The Times identified him by piecing together information from his
postings over the last two years, MacDougald had taken pains to remain
in the shadows — saying the credit for challenging CBS should remain
with the blogosphere as a whole and not one individual.

"Freepers collectively possess more analytical horsepower than the
entire news division at CBS," he wrote in an e-mail, using the slang
term for users of the freerepublic.com site.

MacDougald is a lawyer in the Atlanta office of the Winston-Salem,
N.C.-based firm Womble Carlyle Sandridge & Rice and is affiliated with
two prominent conservative legal groups: the Federalist Society and the
Southeastern Legal Foundation, where he serves on the legal advisory
board.

The foundation, created in 1976, advocates "limited government,
individual economic freedom and the free-enterprise system," according
to its website.

The foundation has fought affirmative action and domestic-partner
benefits for government employees, and successfully challenged a Clinton
administration plan to use proportional sampling to estimate population
in the 2000 census, rather than making a hard count.

MacDougald helped draft the foundation's petition in 1998 that led to
the five-year suspension of Clinton's Arkansas law license for giving
misleading testimony in the Paula Corbin Jones sexual harassment case.

And he assisted in the group's challenge to the campaign finance law
sponsored by Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Russell D. Feingold
(D-Wis.). The challenge, which went to the U.S. Supreme Court, was
funded largely by the foundation with Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), the
law's chief critic, and handled by former Clinton investigator Kenneth
W. Starr.

The high court upheld the law, which banned unlimited contributions from
corporations to federal candidates and political parties.

MacDougald is also a Republican appointee to the Fulton County Board of
Registration and Elections.

Last week he again plunged into a politically charged controversy — but
this time his participation was anonymous.

Operating as Buckhead, which is also the name of an upscale Atlanta
neighborhood, he wrote that the memos CBS' "60 Minutes" presented Sept.
8 as b