It would be so easy

[Michael Rapp]

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 00:15:32 +0100, "catsruleok"
<catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>Half an hour ago, an opened bottle of wine stood on one of my kitchen work surfaces. It was three
>quarters full. It would have been easy to pour a mug full and down it in one. It was hard to walk
>away.
>That same bottle is now sitting about two feet away from me. I can smell its contents. The smell
>is sweet. It would be easy to walk to the kitchen, get a cup out of the cupboard, come back here
>and drink the bottle dry. Perhaps that would be enough to help me sleep. I need to sleep. I need
>to sleep in order to temporarily block out some very sad thoughts. You don't need to know what they
>are.
>But I'm not going to drink. That bottle's going back in the kitchen. It's going in the kitchen
>right now. It's going to be recorked. If my husband wants it tomorrow, he can have it. He's
>welcome to it.
>AA says that a Power greater than ourselves can restore us to sanity. For me, that Power is this
>NG. I often thank you guys for keeping me sober. I'm thanking you again tonight. I always turn to
>you when my resolve not to drink is weak to regain the strength I need to stay sober. So far,
>you've never let me down.
>No matter what some here may think of me, you can be sure I'm *not* going away. I need you guys
>too much.
>Love to you all
>JB
> I've written this tonight I shall be going to bed shortly and although I won't . '
--------
You know, some time ago I had wondered why alcoholics are so "keen" on
congratulating each other for being sober for such- and- such period
of time.
Then it slowly dawned on me:
Being sober, remaining off the booze is a succession of NON-
activities. When you, say, clean the ktichen or do the dishes, or take
out the garbage, whatever, that's an action of your part and you
expect (rightfully) to get a pat on the shoulder for it.
However NOT drinking, NOT finishing off that bottle over there, NOT
going out and buying a bottle are actions no one can see BECAUSE THEY
DIDN'T TAKE PLACE (sorry for shouting). So no one can see what you
DIDN'T do. The only persons who really can appreciate this descisive
act of non- action is another sober alcoholic.
So here goes: pat, pat, JB.
Michael.

[catsruleok]

Half an hour ago, an opened bottle of wine stood on one of my kitchen work surfaces. It was three
quarters full. It would have been easy to pour a mug full and down it in one. It was hard to walk
away.

That same bottle is now sitting about two feet away from me. I can smell its contents. The smell
is sweet. It would be easy to walk to the kitchen, get a cup out of the cupboard, come back here
and drink the bottle dry. Perhaps that would be enough to help me sleep. I need to sleep. I need
to sleep in order to temporarily block out some very sad thoughts. You don't need to know what they
are.

But I'm not going to drink. That bottle's going back in the kitchen. It's going in the kitchen
right now. It's going to be recorked. If my husband wants it tomorrow, he can have it. He's
welcome to it.

AA says that a Power greater than ourselves can restore us to sanity. For me, that Power is this
NG. I often thank you guys for keeping me sober. I'm thanking you again tonight. I always turn to
you when my resolve not to drink is weak to regain the strength I need to stay sober. So far,
you've never let me down.

No matter what some here may think of me, you can be sure I'm *not* going away. I need you guys
too much.

Love to you all

JB



I've written this tonight I shall be going to bed shortly and although I won't . '

[xian]

This one time, on Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:37:42 -0400, "Moonraker"
<fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> said:

>
>"Michael Rapp" <m.rapp@t-online.de> wrote in message
>news:3f133464.39052684@news.btx.dtag.de...
>>> However NOT drinking, NOT finishing off that bottle over there, NOT
>> going out and buying a bottle are actions no one can see BECAUSE THEY
>> DIDN'T TAKE PLACE (sorry for shouting). So no one can see what you
>> DIDN'T do. The only persons who really can appreciate this descisive
>> act of non- action is another sober alcoholic.
>> Michael.
>>
>Yeah...the alcoholic expects salutations and rewards for now doing what they
>should have been doing all along.

I personally find that positive reinforcement helps.

--
xian
www.simpleworldmusic.com
simpleworld - we're not a religion, we're a rock band

[Moonraker]

"Michael Rapp" <m.rapp@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:3f133464.39052684@news.btx.dtag.de...
>> However NOT drinking, NOT finishing off that bottle over there, NOT
> going out and buying a bottle are actions no one can see BECAUSE THEY
> DIDN'T TAKE PLACE (sorry for shouting). So no one can see what you
> DIDN'T do. The only persons who really can appreciate this descisive
> act of non- action is another sober alcoholic.
> Michael.
>
Yeah...the alcoholic expects salutations and rewards for now doing what they
should have been doing all along.

[Moonraker]

"xian" <xianREMOVE@simpleworldmusic.com> wrote in message
news:ngf6hvgnbrg5f4mrsnbbur5e32ke5vcpem@4ax.com...
> >>
> >Yeah...the alcoholic expects salutations and rewards for now doing what
they
> >should have been doing all along.
>
> I personally find that positive reinforcement helps.
>
Sorry...that was tongue in cheek. I forgot the "smiley face".

[rosie readandpost]

no NEED to go away.................................
i'm glad your here and i'm glad its helping.

--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie

never let yesterday use up too much of today.
...........................anonymous



"catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:bevbkb$tbc$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Half an hour ago, an opened bottle of wine stood on one of my kitchen work surfaces. It was three
> quarters full. It would have been easy to pour a mug full and down it in one. It was hard to walk
> away.
>
> That same bottle is now sitting about two feet away from me. I can smell its contents. The smell
> is sweet. It would be easy to walk to the kitchen, get a cup out of the cupboard, come back here
> and drink the bottle dry. Perhaps that would be enough to help me sleep. I need to sleep. I need
> to sleep in order to temporarily block out some very sad thoughts. You don't need to know what they
> are.
>
> But I'm not going to drink. That bottle's going back in the kitchen. It's going in the kitchen
> right now. It's going to be recorked. If my husband wants it tomorrow, he can have it. He's
> welcome to it.
>
> AA says that a Power greater than ourselves can restore us to sanity. For me, that Power is this
> NG. I often thank you guys for keeping me sober. I'm thanking you again tonight. I always turn to
> you when my resolve not to drink is weak to regain the strength I need to stay sober. So far,
> you've never let me down.
>
> No matter what some here may think of me, you can be sure I'm *not* going away. I need you guys
> too much.
>
> Love to you all
>
> JB
>
>
>
> I've written this tonight I shall be going to bed shortly and although I won't . '
>
>
>
>
>
>

[rosie readandpost]

The only persons who really can appreciate this descisive
> act of non- action is another sober alcoholic.
> So here goes: pat, pat, JB.
> Michael.
>

"on the button" mike!

[rosie readandpost]

> Yeah...the alcoholic expects salutations and rewards for now doing what they
> should have been doing all along.


expects?
i don't think so.................................

benefits from?
YUP!

[rosie readandpost]

> I personally find that positive reinforcement helps.
>
> --
> xian


me too!

[catsruleok]

"Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:S2HQa.146$oa4.65@fe02.atl2.webusenet.com...
>
> "xian" <xianREMOVE@simpleworldmusic.com> wrote in message
> news:ngf6hvgnbrg5f4mrsnbbur5e32ke5vcpem@4ax.com...
> > >>
> > >Yeah...the alcoholic expects salutations and rewards for now doing what
> they
> > >should have been doing all along.
> >
> > I personally find that positive reinforcement helps.
> >
> Sorry...that was tongue in cheek. I forgot the "smiley face".
>
That was clever :^))

JB
>

[Clawdragon1]

Oh hell, JB, you came along just in time. I'm taking care of my 14 year old
at my ex's house while she does her golf league and she left a bottle of
Captain Morgan sitting on the bar. (Sometimes I wonder if these things
are an accident.) I swear to God that I was tempted -- hey, just one, ya
know -- but thank you. If you can do it, I can do it.

[Shawster]

"Clawdragon1" <clawdragon1@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:1bIQa.267$2b1.296558@news2.news.adelphia.net. ..
> Darn! I just realized that since I was using my son's computer at his
> house, it signed his name to my posts. Please note that this is Dan
McGown
> talking and that my son (screen name Clawdragon1) is not an alcoholic so
far
> as I know.

Then what is he doing with a bottle of Captain??
>
>
>

[Dan McGown]

The ex, not the son!

"Shawster" <shawster@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:aqJQa.102916$ic1.2127934@twister.tampabay.rr. com...
>
> "Clawdragon1" <clawdragon1@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:1bIQa.267$2b1.296558@news2.news.adelphia.net. ..
> > Darn! I just realized that since I was using my son's computer at his
> > house, it signed his name to my posts. Please note that this is Dan
> McGown
> > talking and that my son (screen name Clawdragon1) is not an alcoholic so
> far
> > as I know.
>
> Then what is he doing with a bottle of Captain??
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Plug]

"catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:bevbkb$tbc$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Half an hour ago, an opened bottle of wine stood on one of my kitchen
work surfaces. It was three
> quarters full. It would have been easy to pour a mug full and down it in
one. It was hard to walk
> away.
>
Hi JB,
I've said it before but things are harder for yourself if your partner
drinks and you have to pour his drinks. Geez, it's like a smoker trying to
give up by lighting their partner's cigarette.
Anyway, you did it, so well done.
Deb/Bubba

[xian]

This one time, on Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:48:43 -0400, "Moonraker"
<fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> said:

>
>"xian" <xianREMOVE@simpleworldmusic.com> wrote in message
>news:ngf6hvgnbrg5f4mrsnbbur5e32ke5vcpem@4ax.com...
>> >>
>> >Yeah...the alcoholic expects salutations and rewards for now doing what
>they
>> >should have been doing all along.
>>
>> I personally find that positive reinforcement helps.
>>
>Sorry...that was tongue in cheek. I forgot the "smiley face".

No problem! :-)

--
xian
www.simpleworldmusic.com
simpleworld - we're not a religion, we're a rock band

[Mias]

Dear JB
Great going! It makes one a lot stronger each time one overcomes!
Kind regards
Mias
"catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:bevbkb$tbc$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Half an hour ago, an opened bottle of wine stood on one of my kitchen
work surfaces. It was three
> quarters full. It would have been easy to pour a mug full and down it in
one. It was hard to walk
> away.
>
> That same bottle is now sitting about two feet away from me. I can smell
its contents. The smell
> is sweet. It would be easy to walk to the kitchen, get a cup out of the
cupboard, come back here
> and drink the bottle dry. Perhaps that would be enough to help me sleep.
I need to sleep. I need
> to sleep in order to temporarily block out some very sad thoughts. You
don't need to know what they
> are.
>
> But I'm not going to drink. That bottle's going back in the kitchen.
It's going in the kitchen
> right now. It's going to be recorked. If my husband wants it tomorrow,
he can have it. He's
> welcome to it.
>
> AA says that a Power greater than ourselves can restore us to sanity. For
me, that Power is this
> NG. I often thank you guys for keeping me sober. I'm thanking you again
tonight. I always turn to
> you when my resolve not to drink is weak to regain the strength I need to
stay sober. So far,
> you've never let me down.
>
> No matter what some here may think of me, you can be sure I'm *not* going
away. I need you guys
> too much.
>
> Love to you all
>
> JB
>
>
>
> I've written this tonight I shall be going to bed shortly and although
I won't . '
>
>
>
>
>
>