FYI: US Legal system recognized AA as a religious organization.

[G-A]

From http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/aa.html
in the section Legal Controversies:

"On appeal the New York Court of Appeals reversed
the Appellate Division and ruled that the Twelve
Steps of AA amount to a religious exercise "as a
matter of law" and that "adherence to the AA fellowship
entails engagement in religious activity and religious
proselytization"

Referenced as
Griffin v. Coughlin, 88 N.Y. 2d 674 at 683
details of which can be found here:
http://tinyurl.com/6rw2t and
http://tinyurl.com/6dclc

G-A

[JB]

"G-A" <ga@net> wrote in message
news:eglhf0dg7nffvjjn15qk9v03bo2v9op191@4ax.com...
>
> From http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/aa.html
> in the section Legal Controversies:
>
> "On appeal the New York Court of Appeals reversed
> the Appellate Division and ruled that the Twelve
> Steps of AA amount to a religious exercise "as a
> matter of law" and that "adherence to the AA fellowship
> entails engagement in religious activity and religious
> proselytization"
>
> Referenced as
> Griffin v. Coughlin, 88 N.Y. 2d 674 at 683
> details of which can be found here:
> http://tinyurl.com/6rw2t and
> http://tinyurl.com/6dclc
>
> G-A

OK. Today, many 12 Step programs exist, for example:

AA (Alcoholics Anonymous), NA(Narcotics Anonymous), Al-Anon/Alateen,
Nar-Anon, MA (Marijuana Anonymous), OA (Overeaters Anonymous), CA
(Cocaine Anonymous), GA (Gamblers Anonymous), CODA (Codependency
Anonymous), ACA (Adult Children of Alcoholics), SAA (Sex Addicts
Anonymous), Nicotine Anonymous, Christian 12 step
programs............,
(Source: http://www.12stepcity.com).

This has got me thinking: Are only AA's program and those who follow
it subject to the kind of attacks that have again been witnessed on
this NG ?

JB

JB
>

[G-A]

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 14:15:21 +0100, "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote:

>
>"G-A" <ga@net> wrote in message
>news:eglhf0dg7nffvjjn15qk9v03bo2v9op191@4ax.com...
>>
>> From http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/aa.html
>> in the section Legal Controversies:
>>
>> "On appeal the New York Court of Appeals reversed
>> the Appellate Division and ruled that the Twelve
>> Steps of AA amount to a religious exercise "as a
>> matter of law" and that "adherence to the AA fellowship
>> entails engagement in religious activity and religious
>> proselytization"
>>
>> Referenced as
>> Griffin v. Coughlin, 88 N.Y. 2d 674 at 683
>> details of which can be found here:
>> http://tinyurl.com/6rw2t and
>> http://tinyurl.com/6dclc
>>
>> G-A
>
>OK. Today, many 12 Step programs exist, for example:
>
>AA (Alcoholics Anonymous), NA(Narcotics Anonymous), Al-Anon/Alateen,
>Nar-Anon, MA (Marijuana Anonymous), OA (Overeaters Anonymous), CA
>(Cocaine Anonymous), GA (Gamblers Anonymous), CODA (Codependency
>Anonymous), ACA (Adult Children of Alcoholics), SAA (Sex Addicts
>Anonymous), Nicotine Anonymous, Christian 12 step
>programs............,
>(Source: http://www.12stepcity.com).
>
>This has got me thinking: Are only AA's program and those who follow
>it subject to the kind of attacks that have again been witnessed on
>this NG ?

I suppose if they are all very similar to AA then the critique
applicable to the AA is also applicable to them.

I wouldn't call what I posted as "attacks". Just strong
scepticism. You guys only made it worse by your endless
blabber devoid of any information. With friends like
these, AA needs no enemies.

G-A

[Gail]

"G-A" <ga@net> wrote in message
news:eglhf0dg7nffvjjn15qk9v03bo2v9op191@4ax.com...
>
> From http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/aa.html
> in the section Legal Controversies:
>
> "On appeal the New York Court of Appeals reversed
> the Appellate Division and ruled that the Twelve
> Steps of AA amount to a religious exercise "as a
> matter of law" and that "adherence to the AA fellowship
> entails engagement in religious activity and religious
> proselytization"
>
> Referenced as
> Griffin v. Coughlin, 88 N.Y. 2d 674 at 683
> details of which can be found here:
> http://tinyurl.com/6rw2t and
> http://tinyurl.com/6dclc
>
> G-A
>

So!
The US legal system is based on religious beliefs from the time Columbus
discovered America.
If a person finds religion while attending AA, I think that is just
FANTASTIC! I did and all your tiny url's don't mean a big load of crap to me
..
Get a life, G-A.

Gail

[G-A]

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 16:33:41 -0500, "Gail" <sweetpawprints-920@hotmail.com>
wrote:


>The US legal system is based on religious beliefs from the time Columbus
>discovered America.

Bullshit. Read the Constitution. (That is, if you are
still capable of reading anything beyond The Book).

> If a person finds religion while attending AA, I think that is just
>FANTASTIC! I did and all your tiny url's don't mean a big load of crap to me
>.

A normal behavior of a typical brainwashed individual.
This (and much more, of course) only highlights the
dangers of organized religion of ANY kind - their
very survival depends on brainwashing masses.

G-A