I wish we could all meet in person somewhere, somehow...

[Fred Exley]

No, on second thought, there would be too many fistfights, hair-pulling,
faces slapped -and that's just the guys.... :)

[neuro equipoise]

On - Wed, Jul 14, 2004, 12:44pm (EDT-3) fexly221@msn.com (Fred*Exley)
wrote:

> No, on second thought, there would be too many
> fistfights, hair-pulling, faces slapped -and that's
> just the guys.... :)

First, we on the east coast have to help Ron paint the house for his
Ronettes, then if Gail can arrange all the parking, we'll swing over
with her group to see Rosie's new lake house and have a camp out, skinny
dipping, and maybe some baptisms for the southerners - from there we'll
meet up with the rest of you in the Grand Canyon. How's that, Fred?

[JB]

"neuro equipoise" <NeuroEquipoise@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26213-40F6780F-7@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net...
On - Wed, Jul 14, 2004, 12:44pm (EDT-3) fexly221@msn.com (Fred Exley)
wrote:

> No, on second thought, there would be too many
> fistfights, hair-pulling, faces slapped -and that's
> just the guys.... :)

First, we on the east coast have to help Ron paint the house for his
Ronettes, then if Gail can arrange all the parking, we'll swing over
with her group to see Rosie's new lake house and have a camp out,
skinny
dipping, and maybe some baptisms for the southerners - from there
we'll
meet up with the rest of you in the Grand Canyon. How's that, Fred?

Hey, I'd like to be in on this. Is anyone willing to help me pay for
an airline ticket. If not, you'll all have to send me photos :^)

JB

[neuro equipoise]

On - Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 2:02pm (EDT+5) JBCatRB@coldman.com (JB) wrote:

> Hey, I'd like to be in on this. Is anyone willing to
> help me pay for an airline ticket. If not, you'll all
> have to send me photos :^)

We'll pass the hat around the deep-pocket folks. See you there JB,
don't forget to bring Nigel--'gift to all women'.

[JB]

"neuro equipoise" <NeuroEquipoise@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9484-40F685E7-177@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net...
> On - Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 2:02pm (EDT+5) JBCatRB@coldman.com (JB)
wrote:
>
> > Hey, I'd like to be in on this. Is anyone willing to
> > help me pay for an airline ticket. If not, you'll all
> > have to send me photos :^)
>
> We'll pass the hat around the deep-pocket folks. See you there JB,
> don't forget to bring Nigel--'gift to all women'.

(VBG)

Gee, are you that desperate ? :^)

ATB

JB

[neuro equipoise]

On - Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 3:03pm (EDT+5) JBCatRB@coldman.com (JB) wrote:

>> don't forget to bring Nigel--'gift to all women'.

> Gee, are you that desperate ? :^)

Have never been desperate since I'm attractive...just thinking of the
others, that's all ; )

[JB]

"neuro equipoise" <NeuroEquipoise@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:691-40F69669-138@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net...
> On - Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 3:03pm (EDT+5) JBCatRB@coldman.com (JB)
wrote:
>
> >> don't forget to bring Nigel--'gift to all women'.
>
> > Gee, are you that desperate ? :^)
>
> Have never been desperate since I'm attractive...just thinking of
the
> others, that's all ; )

You are tooooooooooooooo kind :^)

ATB

JB

[Fred Exley]

Hey, this is MY party, I did all the inviting, so you'll all just have to
come to California godammit!

[Ron]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:17:54 -0700, Fred Exley <fexly221@msn.com> wrote:

> Hey, this is MY party, I did all the inviting, so you'll all just have to
> come to California godammit!

But who's going to explain to my wife why the house isn't getting
painted? Not me, that's for sure.

Got any extra room? Cuz if I go to California, I don't think I can come
back. ;)

--
AB5DB9CC

[neuro equipoise]

On - Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 5:17pm (EDT-3) fexly221@msn.com (Fred*Exley)
wrote:

> Hey, this is MY party, I did all the inviting, so
> you'll all just have to come to California
> godammit!

Hell Freddy, you woke up a bit too late on this one!! I'm taking the big
purple bus across country to the Grand Canyon after our stopover at
Rosie's, and I just painted the bus with the ARAA logo I created!

We'll be picking up alkies as we drive along. I'm taking caseloads of
B-complex and handcuffs to keep them in line, while Blue Moon talks them
down or throws them out, so you'd better be a famous movie star living
in a big man$ion if you want us to drive further to California. I was
planning on letting them loose in the Grand Canyon, give them a white
water rafting 'baptism' to demonstrate higher power, a shock and awe
approach!

The only deal I can make with you about California now, is that you'd
better be living near the Redwood Forest, own a giant swimming pool -
and a jucuzzi for Nigel. I'm not eating any Rice a Roni either!

[Fred Exley]

"neuro equipoise" <NeuroEquipoise@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27949-40F7C5C7-31@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net...
On - Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 5:17pm (EDT-3) fexly221@msn.com (Fred Exley)
wrote:

> Hey, this is MY party, I did all the inviting, so
> you'll all just have to come to California
> godammit!

Hell Freddy, you woke up a bit too late on this one!! I'm taking the big
purple bus across country to the Grand Canyon after our stopover at
Rosie's, and I just painted the bus with the ARAA logo I created!

We'll be picking up alkies as we drive along. I'm taking caseloads of
B-complex and handcuffs to keep them in line, while Blue Moon talks them
down or throws them out, so you'd better be a famous movie star living
in a big man$ion if you want us to drive further to California. I was
planning on letting them loose in the Grand Canyon, give them a white
water rafting 'baptism' to demonstrate higher power, a shock and awe
approach!

The only deal I can make with you about California now, is that you'd
better be living near the Redwood Forest, own a giant swimming pool -
and a jucuzzi for Nigel. I'm not eating any Rice a Roni either!

.................................................. ...........................
.................................................. ...........................
.............................


OK, you win. We'll do things your way. I don't live in that part of
California anyway. Northern California is where all the hippy-kooks live.
I live where the normal, squared-away Californians do -present company
excluded. I'd never get on a bus marked 'ARAA' though. As Groucho Marx
opined, "I'd never join a club that would have me as a member"

So you say you're attractive? And female? That's a real plus. Wanna marry
me? I'm not really as fucked-up as some of these posts seem to
indicate -just need more B-complex or something.... :)

[JB]

"neuro equipoise" <NeuroEquipoise@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27949-40F7C5C7-31@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net...
On - Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 5:17pm (EDT-3) fexly221@msn.com (Fred Exley)
wrote:

> Hey, this is MY party, I did all the inviting, so
> you'll all just have to come to California
> godammit!

Hell Freddy, you woke up a bit too late on this one!! I'm taking the
big
purple bus across country to the Grand Canyon after our stopover at
Rosie's, and I just painted the bus with the ARAA logo I created!

NE,

I hope your bus is as large, colourful and as well equipped as this
one:

http://www.killermovies.com/h/harrypotter3/articles/2772.html

JB :^)

PS: I've no need for an airline ticket. I'll make the trans-atlantic
crossing in a borrowed yellow submarine :^)





We'll be picking up alkies as we drive along. I'm taking caseloads of
B-complex and handcuffs to keep them in line, while Blue Moon talks
them
down or throws them out, so you'd better be a famous movie star living
in a big man$ion if you want us to drive further to California. I was
planning on letting them loose in the Grand Canyon, give them a white
water rafting 'baptism' to demonstrate higher power, a shock and awe
approach!

The only deal I can make with you about California now, is that you'd
better be living near the Redwood Forest, own a giant swimming pool -
and a jucuzzi for Nigel. I'm not eating any Rice a Roni either!

[Fred Exley]

That is some fucking bus!!!! "The Magical Mystery Tour, is waiting to take
us away, dying to take us away..." I'm ready....

[JB]

"Fred Exley" <fexly221@msn.com> wrote in message
news:10fflcnfs06dnc0@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "neuro equipoise" <NeuroEquipoise@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:27949-40F7C5C7-31@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net...
> On - Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 5:17pm (EDT-3) fexly221@msn.com (Fred
Exley)
> wrote:
>
> > Hey, this is MY party, I did all the inviting, so
> > you'll all just have to come to California
> > godammit!
>
> Hell Freddy, you woke up a bit too late on this one!! I'm taking the
big
> purple bus across country to the Grand Canyon after our stopover at
> Rosie's, and I just painted the bus with the ARAA logo I created!
> ............................

>
> OK, you win. We'll do things your way. I don't live in that part
of
> California anyway. Northern California is where all the hippy-kooks
live.
> I live where the normal, squared-away Californians do -present
company
> excluded. I'd never get on a bus marked 'ARAA' though. As Groucho
Marx
> opined, "I'd never join a club that would have me as a member"

Hey Fred,

If you get your mates to return your fredmobile, you can travel under
your own steam :^) LOL Then we'll have us a convey :^)

http://www.theether.org/captions/16.10.1999.html

ATB

JB :^)

[JB]

"Fred Exley" <fexly221@msn.com> wrote in message
news:10ffngtkp4lqrd4@corp.supernews.com...
> That is some fucking bus!!!! "The Magical Mystery Tour, is waiting
to take
> us away, dying to take us away..." I'm ready....
>
Nice one Fred :^)

JB

[neuro equipoise]

On - Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 6:18am (EDT-3) fexly221@msn.com (Fred*Exley)
wrote:

> OK, you win. We'll do things your way. I don't live
> in that part of California anyway.

The point of the story is that just "wishing" we could all meet,
"somewhere, somehow" isn't going to make it happen. Putting wishes and
dreams into concrete action is what makes change possible.


> I'd never get on a bus marked 'ARAA' though. As
> Groucho Marx opined, "I'd never join a club that
> would have me as a member"

...but getting on the bus is what it takes to experience new vistas.
Getting into a big purple 'hippy-freak' bus symbolizes people being
comfortable with using their creative, transformative, imaginations.
The healing imagination can help rewrite negative scripts in the
subconscious mind.


> So you say you're attractive? And female? That's
> a real plus. Wanna marry me?

I'm still in love here, thanks.


> I'm not really as fucked-up as some of these posts
> seem to indicate -just need more B-complex or
> something.... :)

Add handcuffs, up your B vitamins, and get on the big purple bus : )

[neuro equipoise]

On - Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 2:37pm (EDT+5) JBCatRB@coldman.com (JB) wrote:

> I hope your bus is as large, colourful and as well
> equipped as this one:

That one's grand, but the gas prices here are too high to haul that one
cross country. My bus is more Zen-like.


> PS: I've no need for an airline ticket. I'll make the
> trans-atlantic crossing in a borrowed yellow
> submarine :^)

With Nigel? ; )

I found $8 in change in the sofa, was going to send it to help defray
your costs.

[JB]

"Fred Exley" <fexly221@msn.com> wrote in message
news:10ffngtkp4lqrd4@corp.supernews.com...
> That is some fucking bus!!!! "The Magical Mystery Tour, is waiting
to take
> us away, dying to take us away..." I'm ready....

OK. Let's go. Let's "Get Happy"

JB, now in a different era ;^)

[JB]

"neuro equipoise" <NeuroEquipoise@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27949-40F7F0C0-83@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net...
> On - Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 2:37pm (EDT+5) JBCatRB@coldman.com (JB)
wrote:
>
> > I hope your bus is as large, colourful and as well
> > equipped as this one:
>
> That one's grand, but the gas prices here are too high to haul that
one
> cross country. My bus is more Zen-like.
>
>
> > PS: I've no need for an airline ticket. I'll make the
> > trans-atlantic crossing in a borrowed yellow
> > submarine :^)
>
> With Nigel? ; )

He wouldn't be my first choice in travelling companions :^)

>
> I found $8 in change in the sofa, was going to send it to help
defray
> your costs.

Thanks. Please send immediately. It'll help pay for the hiring and
fueling of the sub and provsions :^) See you soon.

ATB

JB
>

[JB]

"JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
news:cd8sm1$1jr$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "neuro equipoise" <NeuroEquipoise@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:27949-40F7F0C0-83@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net...
> > On - Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 2:37pm (EDT+5) JBCatRB@coldman.com (JB)

JB wrote:
> > > PS: I've no need for an airline ticket. I'll make the
> > > trans-atlantic crossing in a borrowed yellow
> > > submarine :^)

NE wrote:
> >
> > With Nigel? ; )

JB wrote:
>
> He wouldn't be my first choice in travelling companions :^)
>
NE,

Your question's continued to play on my mind :^)

If I was planning a trip lasting more than a day, who, if anyone,
would I want to go with me ? To be honest with you, the thought of
having any person with me scares me. It's because I fear that it
would not take them long to find being with me not to their liking and
therefore, they'd leave and also because I fear that they'd get on my
nerves and that then I'd wish to be rid of them.

At this time, I think my perfect companions would be my cats but not
all of them (I'd leave behind my feral and also the one who dislikes
all the others) my computer (so that I could access my NG's and the
internet), my CD collection, a few books and my mobile phone (for
occasional calls).

I'd like any vehicle I was travelling in to have a
transporter -similar to the one in either Star Trek or Stargate SG1 -
so that I could beam in anyone I chose at any time I liked.

One of the changes I hope will come about in me as I continue my
journey to recovery is that I will lose the ability to let fears about
what people may think of me prevent me from doing things that I think
may cause no-one harm (myself included).

ATB

JB

[Gail]

"neuro equipoise" <NeuroEquipoise@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26213-40F6780F-7@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net...
On - Wed, Jul 14, 2004, 12:44pm (EDT-3) fexly221@msn.com (Fred Exley)
wrote:

> No, on second thought, there would be too many
> fistfights, hair-pulling, faces slapped -and that's
> just the guys.... :)

First, we on the east coast have to help Ron paint the house for his
Ronettes, then if Gail can arrange all the parking, we'll swing over
with her group to see Rosie's new lake house and have a camp out, skinny
dipping, and maybe some baptisms for the southerners - from there we'll
meet up with the rest of you in the Grand Canyon. How's that, Fred?


Hey! As long as I get the parking space closest to the door. I am pretty
sure that Rosie would make us all feel welcome. Maybe Robert could swing by
and get JB and sail on in. ;) I do like the bus idea as long as I don't have
to drive it and it has a toilet. Old age is setting in and I need one close
by. :)
Seriously, it would be nice to meet everyone personally wouldn't it? Maybe
even Neuro coulld furnish the vitamins? I will bring the chocolates!
Have a great day all!
Gail

[John Droge]

"neuro equipoise" <NeuroEquipoise@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27949-40F7C5C7-31@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net...
On - Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 5:17pm (EDT-3) fexly221@msn.com (Fred Exley)
wrote:

> Hey, this is MY party, I did all the inviting, so
> you'll all just have to come to California
> godammit!

Hell Freddy, you woke up a bit too late on this one!! I'm taking the big
purple bus across country to the Grand Canyon after our stopover at
Rosie's, and I just painted the bus with the ARAA logo I created!

We'll be picking up alkies as we drive along. I'm taking caseloads of
B-complex and handcuffs to keep them in line, while Blue Moon talks them
down or throws them out, so you'd better be a famous movie star living
in a big man$ion if you want us to drive further to California. I was
planning on letting them loose in the Grand Canyon, give them a white
water rafting 'baptism' to demonstrate higher power, a shock and awe
approach!

The only deal I can make with you about California now, is that you'd
better be living near the Redwood Forest, own a giant swimming pool -
and a jucuzzi for Nigel. I'm not eating any Rice a Roni either!


Nuero
You planning on taking I-70 on the way? If so please pick me up in Denver
and I'll be your tour guide through the Rockies, Four Corners etc. If not
I'll just pop over the Divide and float the Colorado down and meet you guys
on the North Rim (lot less tourista's there). Big purple bus cruising the
highway's and by-ways?, reminds me of the Grey Rabbit, a bus that used to
make kinda-sorta regular scheduled trips between Frisco and Chicago by way
of I-80 in the 70's carrying various misfits, malcontents and sundry other
social pariahs. "Those were the days my friends. We thought they'd never
end"
John
Just an Ole Hippie Tryn' to Make it in a Mean and Hostile World

[neuro equipoise]

On - Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 7:04pm (EDT+5) JBCatRB@coldman.com (JB) wrote:

> If I was planning a trip lasting more than a day,
> who, if anyone, would I want to go with me ?
> To be honest with you, the thought of having any
> person with me scares me. It's because I fear that
> it would not take them long to find being with me
> not to their liking and therefore, they'd leave and
> also because I fear that they'd get on my nerves
> and that then I'd wish to be rid of them.

If you and I were traveling, for instance, you wouldn't get on my nerves
because I understand what a hard struggle 'recovery' is. I wouldn't take
things personally. I also think that if I got on your nerves, we'd just
talk things out, and work out some kind of arrangement, so that we both
could enjoy the trip and reduce the stress, get to know one another
better.

> One of the changes I hope will come about in me
> as I continue my journey to recovery is that I will
> lose the ability to let fears about what people may
> think of me prevent me from doing things that I
> think may cause no-one harm (myself included).

Having self-esteem means treating oneself gently, lovingly,
respectfully, nurturing one's dreams. When a person has self-esteem,
she is not ruled by fears. She creates her life from a source of
strength within. Some people call that Spirit. It will get you through
the darkest times with a sense of peace.

[neuro equipoise]

On - Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 1:16pm (EDT-1) sweetpawprints-920@hotmail.com
(Gail) wrote"

> Maybe Robert could swing by and get JB and sail
> on in. ;)

..and Gary the chef too, we'll need a cook!

> I do like the bus idea as long as I don't have to
> drive it and it has a toilet. Old age is setting in
> and I need one close by. :)

BYOB. (bring your own bucket)

> Have a great day all!

You too, Gail!

[neuro equipoise]

On - Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 6:56pm (EDT+4) jhdroge@earthlink.net
(John*Droge) wrote:

> You planning on taking I-70 on the way? If so
> please pick me up in Denver and I'll be your tour
> guide through the Rockies, Four Corners etc.

It's a deal, John, that's great!

> reminds me of the Grey Rabbit, a bus that used to
> make kinda-sorta regular scheduled trips between
> Frisco and Chicago by way of I-80 in the 70's
> carrying various misfits, malcontents and sundry
> other social pariahs.

We can turn this trip into a film.

> Just an Ole Hippie Tryn' to Make it in a Mean and
> Hostile World

Bring some Sai Baba incense : )

[John Droge]

"neuro equipoise" <NeuroEquipoise@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:16508-40F83CDF-59@storefull-3272.bay.webtv.net...
On - Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 6:56pm (EDT+4) jhdroge@earthlink.net
(John Droge) wrote:

> You planning on taking I-70 on the way? If so
> please pick me up in Denver and I'll be your tour
> guide through the Rockies, Four Corners etc.

It's a deal, John, that's great!

> reminds me of the Grey Rabbit, a bus that used to
> make kinda-sorta regular scheduled trips between
> Frisco and Chicago by way of I-80 in the 70's
> carrying various misfits, malcontents and sundry
> other social pariahs.

We can turn this trip into a film.

> Just an Ole Hippie Tryn' to Make it in a Mean and
> Hostile World

Bring some Sai Baba incense : )

Pain makes Man think
Thought makes Man wise
Wisdom makes Life endurable

John Patrick
( as spoken by Marlon Brando in "The Teahouse of the August Moon"--it was on
the other night)

John

[John Droge]

"neuro equipoise" <NeuroEquipoise@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:16508-40F83CDF-59@storefull-3272.bay.webtv.net...
On - Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 6:56pm (EDT+4) jhdroge@earthlink.net
(John Droge) wrote:

> You planning on taking I-70 on the way? If so
> please pick me up in Denver and I'll be your tour
> guide through the Rockies, Four Corners etc.

It's a deal, John, that's great!

> reminds me of the Grey Rabbit, a bus that used to
> make kinda-sorta regular scheduled trips between
> Frisco and Chicago by way of I-80 in the 70's
> carrying various misfits, malcontents and sundry
> other social pariahs.

We can turn this trip into a film.

> Just an Ole Hippie Tryn' to Make it in a Mean and
> Hostile World

Bring some Sai Baba incense : )

Did I mention somewhere that the last wife and I owned a candle and incense
store (before the bankruptcy) after I got "laid off" from the Aerospace
world due to my drinking?
John

[neuro equipoise]

On - Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 9:59pm (EDT+4) jhdroge@earthlink.net
(John*Droge) wrote:

> Did I mention somewhere that the last wife and I
> owned a candle and incense store (before the
> bankruptcy) after I got "laid off" from the
> Aerospace world due to my drinking?

Yes, I remembered you saying so. It might have been when Rockhound
asked about myrrh.


> Pain makes Man think
> Thought makes Man wise
> Wisdom makes Life endurable
> John Patrick
> ( as spoken by Marlon Brando in "The Teahouse
> of the August Moon"--it was on the other night)

Rest in Peace, Marlon, and thank you.

[John Droge]

"neuro equipoise" <NeuroEquipoise@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27949-40F85E83-124@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net...
On - Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 9:59pm (EDT+4) jhdroge@earthlink.net
(John Droge) wrote:

> Did I mention somewhere that the last wife and I
> owned a candle and incense store (before the
> bankruptcy) after I got "laid off" from the
> Aerospace world due to my drinking?

Yes, I remembered you saying so. It might have been when Rockhound
asked about myrrh.


Yeah now I remember. She was talking about the Three Wise Men bringing the
baby Jesus embalming fluid or some such.
Hope she found what she went out to look for. 'Fraid that 6 pack she talked
about didn't stay on the shelf.
John

[neuro equipoise]

On - Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 11:23pm (EDT+4) jhdroge@earthlink.net
(John*Droge) wrote:

> Yeah now I remember. She was talking about the
> Three Wise Men bringing the baby Jesus
> embalming fluid or some such.

> Hope she found what she went out to look for.
> 'Fraid that 6 pack she talked about didn't stay on
> the shelf.

If you're out there Rockhound, this is for you:


"To tie a rock to a cloud --
is this possible?
And if it is,
does the cloud descend to meet the rock
or does the rock rise to meet the cloud?"



"I have seen cosmic beings and other worlds yet without seeing a flower
it is nothing.

I have stopped my breath and been at one yet without the love of two it
is nothing.

I have felt pure joy and all that it brings yet the greatest is to feel
the pain of others.

I have predicted the future and the thoughts of others, yet my own
honesty eludes me.

I have been angelic, virtuous, and of pure heart, yet without being
human it is nothing.

Why do I crave other worlds
when the needy are here?

Why am I content with the joy of my world when others cry?

What does this mean?

After communing with God and defeating the devil, Jesus simply said, "I
am a man."

Though he had the power to see all and everything, the Buddha was
accidentally poisoned and died.

We live side by side with paradox and illusion. Of these things it is
hard to speak.


To tie a rock to a cloud--
is this possible?
And if it is,
does the cloud descend to meet the rock
or does the rock rise to meet the cloud?"


[see you at the Grand Canyon]