Erm... little bit chuffed

[Geoff]

Still here, still lurking, still sober :)

3 months and my life is already immesurably better. Thanks to all that
have stayed sober, and ranted, and raved, and been serene.

One day at a time...

G

[rosie]

WAY TO GO!
congrats to you!

--
rosie

http://interactive.lwv.org/News/News.cfm?ID=1192&c=1



"Geoff" <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote in message
news:s35uc.8998$NK4.1112030@stones.force9.net...
: Still here, still lurking, still sober :)
:
: 3 months and my life is already immesurably better. Thanks to all
that
: have stayed sober, and ranted, and raved, and been serene.
:
: One day at a time...
:
: G

[John Droge]

"Geoff" <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote in message
news:s35uc.8998$NK4.1112030@stones.force9.net...
> Still here, still lurking, still sober :)
>
> 3 months and my life is already immesurably better. Thanks to all that
> have stayed sober, and ranted, and raved, and been serene.
>
> One day at a time...
>
> G
Geoff
90 days! That's a milestone, a good beginning to work on.
Glad that you can see life getting better, it's always good
to have positive reinforcement . Keep it up.
John

[Mias]

Waaay to go! Congratulations Geoff. Sobriety has a definite shine about it.
Our way is glorious this way of ours..
Regards
Mias
"Geoff" <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote in message
news:s35uc.8998$NK4.1112030@stones.force9.net...
> Still here, still lurking, still sober :)
>
> 3 months and my life is already immesurably better. Thanks to all that
> have stayed sober, and ranted, and raved, and been serene.
>
> One day at a time...
>
> G

[Tono]

Geoff wrote:

> Still here, still lurking, still sober :)
>
> 3 months and my life is already immesurably better. Thanks to all that
> have stayed sober, and ranted, and raved, and been serene.
>
> One day at a time...
>
> G

Congratulations Geoff! One day at a time is an important thing to
remember. There will be tough times, but focusing on just today
will always help!

Keep up the great work!

Tono

[rockhound]

On Sat, 29 May 2004 19:58:41 +0100, Geoff
<this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:

>Still here, still lurking, still sober :)
>
>3 months and my life is already immesurably better. Thanks to all that
>have stayed sober, and ranted, and raved, and been serene.
>
>One day at a time...
>
>G

Hey, Geoff, you married?

rockhound
-----------
your local, lazy, crazy, sleazy holy backwater ho who keeps waking up
at 5:30 EST. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


PS. What is 'chuffed' ?

[Geoff]

rockhound wrote:

> On Sat, 29 May 2004 19:58:41 +0100, Geoff
> <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>
>
>>Still here, still lurking, still sober :)
>>
>>3 months and my life is already immesurably better. Thanks to all that
>>have stayed sober, and ranted, and raved, and been serene.
>>
>>One day at a time...
>>
>>G
>
>
> Hey, Geoff, you married?
>
> rockhound
> -----------
> your local, lazy, crazy, sleazy holy backwater ho who keeps waking up
> at 5:30 EST. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>
>
> PS. What is 'chuffed' ?

Oh no, coincidence ahoy! I left my wife the morning after my last drink,
which was half a glass of red wine. So in the eyes of the law, yes, but
morally, emotionally, physically and spiritually, thats an emphatic NO!!
Divorce is pending.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chuffed&f=1 (the first one)

G

[rockhound]

On Sun, 30 May 2004 12:21:53 +0100, Geoff
<this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:

>rockhound wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 May 2004 19:58:41 +0100, Geoff
>> <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Still here, still lurking, still sober :)
>>>
>>>3 months and my life is already immesurably better. Thanks to all that
>>>have stayed sober, and ranted, and raved, and been serene.
>>>
>>>One day at a time...
>>>
>>>G
>>
>>
>> Hey, Geoff, you married?
>>
>> rockhound
>> -----------
>> your local, lazy, crazy, sleazy holy backwater ho who keeps waking up
>> at 5:30 EST. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>>
>>
>> PS. What is 'chuffed' ?
>
>Oh no, coincidence ahoy! I left my wife the morning after my last drink,
>which was half a glass of red wine. So in the eyes of the law, yes, but
>morally, emotionally, physically and spiritually, thats an emphatic NO!!
>Divorce is pending.
>
>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chuffed&f=1 (the first one)
>
>G

Ah, free at last! Well, after the obligations are sorted out...Why
*do* we do ourselves such damage by promising the moon, and believing
such promises, when it isn't even ours? Today i believe girls need as
many men as men need girls. The various and sundry qualities we all
seek in a kindred spirit can never be found in one partner, and life
simply has different phases. Why kick ourselves over the inevitable?
Is it not just insecurity that makes us cling, so?

Now, i'm tempted to hit on you myself, since i got rejected by
McGrrrrrrregor, but i'm trying to undergo a humanity enhancement
operation, and also keep my affairs more...continental. Besides, most
of these folks around here take themselves so damn seriously.

Can i propose, though, on behalf of girls everywhere on your side of
the world, now that you're available, that you offer one freshly
stolen flower to a whole bouquet of girls?

------
Good guys always wear chaps.

----

Ah we're drinking and we're dancing
and the band is really happening
and the Johnny Walker wisdom running high
And my very sweet companion
she's the Angel of Compassion
she's rubbing half the world against her thigh
And every drinker every dancer
lifts a happy face to thank her
the fiddler fiddles something so sublime
all the women tear their blouses off
and the men they dance on the polka-dots
and it's partner found, it's partner lost
and it's hell to pay when the fiddler stops:
it's CLOSING TIME

Yeah the women tear their blouses off
and the men they dance on the polka-dots
and it's partner found, it's partner lost
and it's hell to pay when the fiddler stops:
it's CLOSING TIME

Ah we're lonely, we're romantic
and the cider's laced with acid
and the Holy Spirit's crying, "Where's the beef?"
And the moon is swimming naked
and the summer night is fragrant
with a mighty expectation of relief
So we struggle and we stagger
down the snakes and up the ladder
to the tower where the blessed hours chime
and I swear it happened just like this:
a sigh, a cry, a hungry kiss
the Gates of Love they budged an inch
I can't say much has happened since
but CLOSING TIME

I swear it happened just like this:
a sigh, a cry, a hungry kiss
the Gates of Love they budged an inch
I can't say much has happened since
CLOSING TIME

I loved you for your beauty
but that doesn't make a fool of me:
you were in it for your beauty too
and I loved you for your body
there's a voice that sounds like God to me
declaring, declaring, declaring that your body's really you
And I loved you when our love was blessed
and I love you now there's nothing left
but sorrow and a sense of overtime
and I missed you since the place got wrecked
And I just don't care what happens next
looks like freedom but it feels like death
it's something in between, I guess
it's CLOSING TIME

Yeah I missed you since the place got wrecked
By the winds of change and the weeds of sex
looks like freedom but it feels like death
it's something in between, I guess
it's CLOSING TIME

Yeah we're drinking and we're dancing
but there's nothing really happening
and the place is dead as Heaven on a Saturday night
And my very close companion
gets me fumbling gets me laughing
she's a hundred but she's wearing
something tight
and I lift my glass to the Awful Truth
which you can't reveal to the Ears of Youth
except to say it isn't worth a dime
And the whole damn place goes crazy twice
and it's once for the devil and once for Christ
but the Boss don't like these dizzy heights
we're busted in the blinding lights,
busted in the blinding lights
of CLOSING TIME

The whole damn place goes crazy twice
and it's once for the devil and once for Christ
but the Boss don't like these dizzy heights
we're busted in the blinding lights,
busted in the blinding lights
of CLOSING TIME

Oh the women tear their blouses off the men they dance on the
polka-dots
It's CLOSING TIME
And it's partner found, it's partner lost
and it's hell to pay when the fiddler stops
It's CLOSING TIME
I swear it happened just like this:
a sigh, a cry, a hungry kiss
It's CLOSING TIME
The Gates of Love they budged an inch
I can't say much has happened since
But CLOSING TIME
I loved you when our love was blessed
I love you now there's nothing left
But CLOSING TIME
I miss you since the place got wrecked
By the winds of change and the weeds of sex.

--- the rabbi that wouldn't be

[rockhound]

On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:42:11 GMT, rockhound <user@null.org> wrote:


>but i'm trying to undergo a humanity enhancement operation

EDITOR'S NOTE

thinking about maybe trying to...

seems about as expensive as breast implants, tooth whitening,
furniture renovations, fashion makeovers, facelifts, hairdos, et al.

[Geoff]

rockhound wrote:
> On Sun, 30 May 2004 12:21:53 +0100, Geoff
> <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>
>
>>rockhound wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 29 May 2004 19:58:41 +0100, Geoff
>>><this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Still here, still lurking, still sober :)
>>>>
>>>>3 months and my life is already immesurably better. Thanks to all that
>>>>have stayed sober, and ranted, and raved, and been serene.
>>>>
>>>>One day at a time...
>>>>
>>>>G
>>>
>>>
>>>Hey, Geoff, you married?
>>>
>>>rockhound
>>>-----------
>>>your local, lazy, crazy, sleazy holy backwater ho who keeps waking up
>>>at 5:30 EST. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>>>
>>>
>>>PS. What is 'chuffed' ?
>>
>>Oh no, coincidence ahoy! I left my wife the morning after my last drink,
>>which was half a glass of red wine. So in the eyes of the law, yes, but
>>morally, emotionally, physically and spiritually, thats an emphatic NO!!
>>Divorce is pending.
>>
>>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chuffed&f=1 (the first one)
>>
>>G
>
>
> Ah, free at last! Well, after the obligations are sorted out...Why
> *do* we do ourselves such damage by promising the moon, and believing
> such promises, when it isn't even ours? Today i believe girls need as
> many men as men need girls. The various and sundry qualities we all
> seek in a kindred spirit can never be found in one partner, and life
> simply has different phases. Why kick ourselves over the inevitable?
> Is it not just insecurity that makes us cling, so?
>

Preliminary reports on my motivations would appear to indicate that I
snagged this one young enough to train her to be my mother so she could
maintain me through my alcoholism. She eventually decided that growing
up was a better option.

> Now, i'm tempted to hit on you myself, since i got rejected by
> McGrrrrrrregor, but i'm trying to undergo a humanity enhancement
> operation, and also keep my affairs more...continental. Besides, most
> of these folks around here take themselves so damn seriously.
>

Flattered though I am, my sponsor has suggested that I refrain from any
emotional or physical entanglements because the type of person I'll
attract atm is likely to be as fucked up as me.. a real bunny boiler.

> Can i propose, though, on behalf of girls everywhere on your side of
> the world, now that you're available, that you offer one freshly
> stolen flower to a whole bouquet of girls?
>

::sigh::

G

[rockhound]

On Mon, 31 May 2004 00:10:18 +0100, Geoff
<this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:


>>>Oh no, coincidence ahoy! I left my wife the morning after my last drink,
>>>which was half a glass of red wine. So in the eyes of the law, yes, but
>>>morally, emotionally, physically and spiritually, thats an emphatic NO!!
>>>Divorce is pending.

>> Ah, free at last! Well, after the obligations are sorted out...Why
>> *do* we do ourselves such damage by promising the moon, and believing
>> such promises, when it isn't even ours? Today i believe girls need as
>> many men as men need girls. The various and sundry qualities we all
>> seek in a kindred spirit can never be found in one partner, and life
>> simply has different phases. Why kick ourselves over the inevitable?
>> Is it not just insecurity that makes us cling, so?
>>
>
>Preliminary reports on my motivations would appear to indicate that I
>snagged this one young enough to train her to be my mother so she could
>maintain me through my alcoholism. She eventually decided that growing
>up was a better option.

I have seen some of those reports. What asshole wrote those, huh? :)


>> Now, i'm tempted to hit on you myself, since i got rejected by
>> McGrrrrrrregor, but i'm trying to undergo a humanity enhancement
>> operation, and also keep my affairs more...continental. Besides, most
>> of these folks around here take themselves so damn seriously.

>Flattered though I am, my sponsor has suggested that I refrain from any
>emotional or physical entanglements because the type of person I'll
>attract atm is likely to be as fucked up as me.. a real bunny boiler.

Yeah. As long as you keep it short and sweet, and place their
well-being ahead of your own. Who says she has to like you ?

---------
We don't need another Klingon.


>> Can i propose, though, on behalf of girls everywhere on your side of
>> the world, now that you're available, that you offer one freshly
>> stolen flower to a whole bouquet of girls?
>>
>
>::sigh::
>
>G

[rockhound]

On Mon, 31 May 2004 14:03:47 +0100, Geoff
<this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:

>rockhound wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 May 2004 00:10:18 +0100, Geoff
>> <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>Oh no, coincidence ahoy! I left my wife the morning after my last drink,
>>>>>which was half a glass of red wine. So in the eyes of the law, yes, but
>>>>>morally, emotionally, physically and spiritually, thats an emphatic NO!!
>>>>>Divorce is pending.
>>
>>
>>>>Ah, free at last! Well, after the obligations are sorted out...Why
>>>>*do* we do ourselves such damage by promising the moon, and believing
>>>>such promises, when it isn't even ours? Today i believe girls need as
>>>>many men as men need girls. The various and sundry qualities we all
>>>>seek in a kindred spirit can never be found in one partner, and life
>>>>simply has different phases. Why kick ourselves over the inevitable?
>>>>Is it not just insecurity that makes us cling, so?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Preliminary reports on my motivations would appear to indicate that I
>>>snagged this one young enough to train her to be my mother so she could
>>>maintain me through my alcoholism. She eventually decided that growing
>>>up was a better option.
>>
>>
>> I have seen some of those reports. What asshole wrote those, huh? :)
>>
>
>Some fuckwit
>
>G

You know, 'chuffed' sounds like it should be a bad thing.

[Geoff]

rockhound wrote:
> On Mon, 31 May 2004 00:10:18 +0100, Geoff
> <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>>Oh no, coincidence ahoy! I left my wife the morning after my last drink,
>>>>which was half a glass of red wine. So in the eyes of the law, yes, but
>>>>morally, emotionally, physically and spiritually, thats an emphatic NO!!
>>>>Divorce is pending.
>
>
>>>Ah, free at last! Well, after the obligations are sorted out...Why
>>>*do* we do ourselves such damage by promising the moon, and believing
>>>such promises, when it isn't even ours? Today i believe girls need as
>>>many men as men need girls. The various and sundry qualities we all
>>>seek in a kindred spirit can never be found in one partner, and life
>>>simply has different phases. Why kick ourselves over the inevitable?
>>>Is it not just insecurity that makes us cling, so?
>>>
>>
>>Preliminary reports on my motivations would appear to indicate that I
>>snagged this one young enough to train her to be my mother so she could
>>maintain me through my alcoholism. She eventually decided that growing
>>up was a better option.
>
>
> I have seen some of those reports. What asshole wrote those, huh? :)
>

Some fuckwit

G

[rockhound]

On Mon, 31 May 2004 14:03:47 +0100, Geoff
<this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:

>rockhound wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 May 2004 00:10:18 +0100, Geoff
>> <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>Oh no, coincidence ahoy! I left my wife the morning after my last drink,
>>>>>which was half a glass of red wine. So in the eyes of the law, yes, but
>>>>>morally, emotionally, physically and spiritually, thats an emphatic NO!!
>>>>>Divorce is pending.
>>
>>
>>>>Ah, free at last! Well, after the obligations are sorted out...Why
>>>>*do* we do ourselves such damage by promising the moon, and believing
>>>>such promises, when it isn't even ours? Today i believe girls need as
>>>>many men as men need girls. The various and sundry qualities we all
>>>>seek in a kindred spirit can never be found in one partner, and life
>>>>simply has different phases. Why kick ourselves over the inevitable?
>>>>Is it not just insecurity that makes us cling, so?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Preliminary reports on my motivations would appear to indicate that I
>>>snagged this one young enough to train her to be my mother so she could
>>>maintain me through my alcoholism. She eventually decided that growing
>>>up was a better option.
>>
>>
>> I have seen some of those reports. What asshole wrote those, huh? :)
>>
>
>Some fuckwit
>
>G

o what a gift the giver gives us
when we see ourselves as others see us

[Geoff]

rockhound wrote:

> On Mon, 31 May 2004 14:03:47 +0100, Geoff
> <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>
>
>>rockhound wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 31 May 2004 00:10:18 +0100, Geoff
>>><this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Oh no, coincidence ahoy! I left my wife the morning after my last drink,
>>>>>>which was half a glass of red wine. So in the eyes of the law, yes, but
>>>>>>morally, emotionally, physically and spiritually, thats an emphatic NO!!
>>>>>>Divorce is pending.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Ah, free at last! Well, after the obligations are sorted out...Why
>>>>>*do* we do ourselves such damage by promising the moon, and believing
>>>>>such promises, when it isn't even ours? Today i believe girls need as
>>>>>many men as men need girls. The various and sundry qualities we all
>>>>>seek in a kindred spirit can never be found in one partner, and life
>>>>>simply has different phases. Why kick ourselves over the inevitable?
>>>>>Is it not just insecurity that makes us cling, so?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Preliminary reports on my motivations would appear to indicate that I
>>>>snagged this one young enough to train her to be my mother so she could
>>>>maintain me through my alcoholism. She eventually decided that growing
>>>>up was a better option.
>>>
>>>
>>>I have seen some of those reports. What asshole wrote those, huh? :)
>>>
>>
>>Some fuckwit
>>
>>G
>
>
> You know, 'chuffed' sounds like it should be a bad thing.

Theres another definition which i should get around to adding.. to break
wind, as in "have you just chuffed?"

G

[Geoff]

rockhound wrote:

>>>
>>>I have seen some of those reports. What asshole wrote those, huh? :)
>>>
>>
>>Some fuckwit
>>
>>G
>
>
> o what a gift the giver gives us
> when we see ourselves as others see us

You silver tongued charmer, you!

G

[rockhound]

On Mon, 31 May 2004 14:56:10 +0100, Geoff
<this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:

>rockhound wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>>I have seen some of those reports. What asshole wrote those, huh? :)
>>>>
>>>
>>>Some fuckwit
>>>
>>>G
>>
>>
>> o what a gift the giver gives us
>> when we see ourselves as others see us
>
>You silver tongued charmer, you!
>
>G

You're too easy :)

[Geoff]

rockhound wrote:
> On Mon, 31 May 2004 14:56:10 +0100, Geoff
> <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>
>
>>rockhound wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>I have seen some of those reports. What asshole wrote those, huh? :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Some fuckwit
>>>>
>>>>G
>>>
>>>
>>>o what a gift the giver gives us
>>>when we see ourselves as others see us
>>
>>You silver tongued charmer, you!
>>
>>G
>
>
> You're too easy :)

No, thats my s2bx's failing, not mine :)

G

[rockhound]

On Mon, 31 May 2004 21:28:15 +0100, Geoff
<this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:

>rockhound wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 May 2004 14:56:10 +0100, Geoff
>> <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>rockhound wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>I have seen some of those reports. What asshole wrote those, huh? :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Some fuckwit
>>>>>
>>>>>G
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>o what a gift the giver gives us
>>>>when we see ourselves as others see us
>>>
>>>You silver tongued charmer, you!
>>>
>>>G
>>
>>
>> You're too easy :)
>
>No, thats my s2bx's failing, not mine :)
>
>G

ooooo if you really loved her, you might have paid the cab :)

But that would take devotion.,,

[Geoff]

rockhound wrote:
> On Mon, 31 May 2004 21:28:15 +0100, Geoff
> <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>
>
>>rockhound wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 31 May 2004 14:56:10 +0100, Geoff
>>><this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>rockhound wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>I have seen some of those reports. What asshole wrote those, huh? :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Some fuckwit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>G
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>o what a gift the giver gives us
>>>>>when we see ourselves as others see us
>>>>
>>>>You silver tongued charmer, you!
>>>>
>>>>G
>>>
>>>
>>>You're too easy :)
>>
>>No, thats my s2bx's failing, not mine :)
>>
>>G
>
>
> ooooo if you really loved her, you might have paid the cab :)
>
> But that would take devotion.,,

Oh, so I'm cheap now as well? Can I borrow your crystal ball please?

[rockhound]

On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:01:15 GMT, Geoff
<this.address.is.invalid@this.domain.com> wrote:

>rockhound wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 May 2004 21:28:15 +0100, Geoff
>> <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>rockhound wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 31 May 2004 14:56:10 +0100, Geoff
>>>><this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>rockhound wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have seen some of those reports. What asshole wrote those, huh? :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Some fuckwit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>G
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>o what a gift the giver gives us
>>>>>>when we see ourselves as others see us
>>>>>
>>>>>You silver tongued charmer, you!
>>>>>
>>>>>G
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You're too easy :)
>>>
>>>No, thats my s2bx's failing, not mine :)
>>>
>>>G
>>
>>
>> ooooo if you really loved her, you might have paid the cab :)
>>
>> But that would take devotion.,,
>
>Oh, so I'm cheap now as well? Can I borrow your crystal ball please?

working on a crystal radio. please find balls floating around on
great ocean tides.

My point, cheap as it may seem, is that, ideally, as those far wiser
than me have put it, if we loved someone we would set them free; if
they came back of their own accord, we could consider them more truly
'ours', for keeps.

My own closest personal attempt to adjust myself serenely to such
considerations is to regard potential relationshees more as i would a
stray animal. In the case where i am the stray begging for milk at
the door, this is how i think i would wish to be treated: To be
freely and warmly provided a bowl of milk and a hello, maybe a pat on
the head and a touch of admiration, and then sent on my way to find my
destiny, instead of chained up to a post in the backyard with a
lifetime supply of Kibbles, pavlovingly taught to perform to suit my
new master, when he has the time.

I have a nasty habit of trying every means i can come up with to force
others to do that which i myself am incapable of, although if you ask
me at the time, i will inevitably claim to truly embody whichever
virtue it is in question.

"If i can see that they should do it, then i myself must be quite good
at it" goes my thinking. "Why, look at all these examples of my
successes in that area". "I am, therefore, and you are not".

This faultfinding consistently breaks down on me when in the end,
defeated each and every time, i get 'round to muttering "well then if
i can't beat 'em, i'll join 'em". Then i laugh at my folly, trying
to take prisoners, how silly of me, who loudly extols freedom :)

Why deny myself the pleasures i really long for, say, of liberty, for
example, or sloth, for another, or invigorating company, or good sex,
or adventure, or any random sampling under the sun, when i can't make
anybody else stick to it either? Frig, in my heart of hearts, after
i take a wider clue, i'm as or more guilty than 'they' ever were.
Then i give my head a shake. Usually pointing the finger at them to
avoid admitting my own truth. In bed, for example, who is it that i
am imagining i'm with ??? Why do i feel disappointed? In the
kitchen, why so demanding, so sore and spiteful ? Is that 'love'?
Was i not selling my only trading ticket in exchange for security?
Isn't that just a business arrangement? Who am i to sell 'love' ?

But it takes two to tango. I was once deceived, and i did deceive,
but the part that bugs me most now is where i deceived myself. It was
all make-believe. What was i trying to gain? Was it worth it? I'm
sure everyone's different, but, frankly, although initially i was
angry and hurt and offended when my plans for the monotony of monogamy
went south, eventually i was deeply relieved and grateful. Sure,
there was hurt all around, difficulty adjusting, facing myself
squarely and my deep insecurities, fears, dependencies and failures,
inability to cope, and downright loneliness. It was a real mess. I
was a real mess. But i found i had to clean it up myself, because
nobody seemed to be able to do it for me. Not that i could, either,
really, though i tried for so long. Finally, i have had to swallow my
pride and ask for help, from others, and from 'god'.

Besides, i know someone who'd abandoned his family years back, but
now, whenever he comes to town, the ex's new husband even does his
laundry for him. They are all friends still. This gave me the
thought that there's something better and more permanent to be had in
this world, and i want it. If honesty and humility, faith,
self-searching, amends, and the building of character and resolutely
looking for our own faults can turn enemies into friends, and relieve
alcoholism, i want it. Well, except when i don't :) Still very
much a daily struggle here...

<sigh>

I have looked at 'love' from both sides, now. I really don't know
'love', at all.

----

"There was never enough of what we thought we wanted, or it was never
the right kind. "

----
So you think you're a Romeo
playing a part in a picture-show
Take the long way home
Take the long way home
Cos you're the joke of the neighborhood
Why should you care if you're feeling good
Take the long way home
Take the long way home
But there are times that you feel you're part of the scenery
all the greenery is comin' down, boy
And then your wife seems to think you're part of the
furniture oh, it's peculiar, she used to be so nice.
When lonely days turn to lonely nights
you take a trip to the city lights
And take the long way home
Take the long way home
You never see what you want to see
Forever playing to the gallery
You take the long way home
Take the long way home
And when you're up on the stage, it's so unbelievable,
unforgettable, how they adore you,
But then your wife seems to think you're losing your sanity,
oh, calamity, is there no way out?
Does it feel that your life's become a catastrophe?
Oh, it has to be for you to grow, boy.
When you look through the years and see what you could
have been oh, what might have been,
if you'd had more time.
So, when the day comes to settle down,
Who's to blame if you're not around?
You took the long way home
You took the long way home...........
- major tramp coming thru on crystal radio

[rockhound]

>On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:01:15 GMT, Geoff wrote:

>>Oh, so I'm cheap now as well? Can I borrow your crystal ball please?

PS.

The best revenge is living well. But i have found the release of air
from tire valves to be amusing too :)

[Geoff]

rockhound wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:01:15 GMT, Geoff
> <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain.com> wrote:
>
>
>>rockhound wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 31 May 2004 21:28:15 +0100, Geoff
>>><this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>rockhound wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 31 May 2004 14:56:10 +0100, Geoff
>>>>><this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>rockhound wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have seen some of those reports. What asshole wrote those, huh? :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Some fuckwit
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>G
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>o what a gift the giver gives us
>>>>>>>when we see ourselves as others see us
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You silver tongued charmer, you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>G
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You're too easy :)
>>>>
>>>>No, thats my s2bx's failing, not mine :)
>>>>
>>>>G
>>>
>>>
>>>ooooo if you really loved her, you might have paid the cab :)
>>>
>>>But that would take devotion.,,
>>
>>Oh, so I'm cheap now as well? Can I borrow your crystal ball please?
>
>
> working on a crystal radio. please find balls floating around on
> great ocean tides.
>
> My point, cheap as it may seem, is that, ideally, as those far wiser
> than me have put it, if we loved someone we would set them free; if
> they came back of their own accord, we could consider them more truly
> 'ours', for keeps.
>
> My own closest personal attempt to adjust myself serenely to such
> considerations is to regard potential relationshees more as i would a
> stray animal. In the case where i am the stray begging for milk at
> the door, this is how i think i would wish to be treated: To be
> freely and warmly provided a bowl of milk and a hello, maybe a pat on
> the head and a touch of admiration, and then sent on my way to find my
> destiny, instead of chained up to a post in the backyard with a
> lifetime supply of Kibbles, pavlovingly taught to perform to suit my
> new master, when he has the time.
>
> I have a nasty habit of trying every means i can come up with to force
> others to do that which i myself am incapable of, although if you ask
> me at the time, i will inevitably claim to truly embody whichever
> virtue it is in question.
>
> "If i can see that they should do it, then i myself must be quite good
> at it" goes my thinking. "Why, look at all these examples of my
> successes in that area". "I am, therefore, and you are not".
>
> This faultfinding consistently breaks down on me when in the end,
> defeated each and every time, i get 'round to muttering "well then if
> i can't beat 'em, i'll join 'em". Then i laugh at my folly, trying
> to take prisoners, how silly of me, who loudly extols freedom :)
>
> Why deny myself the pleasures i really long for, say, of liberty, for
> example, or sloth, for another, or invigorating company, or good sex,
> or adventure, or any random sampling under the sun, when i can't make
> anybody else stick to it either? Frig, in my heart of hearts, after
> i take a wider clue, i'm as or more guilty than 'they' ever were.
> Then i give my head a shake. Usually pointing the finger at them to
> avoid admitting my own truth. In bed, for example, who is it that i
> am imagining i'm with ??? Why do i feel disappointed? In the
> kitchen, why so demanding, so sore and spiteful ? Is that 'love'?
> Was i not selling my only trading ticket in exchange for security?
> Isn't that just a business arrangement? Who am i to sell 'love' ?
>
> But it takes two to tango. I was once deceived, and i did deceive,
> but the part that bugs me most now is where i deceived myself. It was
> all make-believe. What was i trying to gain? Was it worth it? I'm
> sure everyone's different, but, frankly, although initially i was
> angry and hurt and offended when my plans for the monotony of monogamy
> went south, eventually i was deeply relieved and grateful. Sure,
> there was hurt all around, difficulty adjusting, facing myself
> squarely and my deep insecurities, fears, dependencies and failures,
> inability to cope, and downright loneliness. It was a real mess. I
> was a real mess. But i found i had to clean it up myself, because
> nobody seemed to be able to do it for me. Not that i could, either,
> really, though i tried for so long. Finally, i have had to swallow my
> pride and ask for help, from others, and from 'god'.
>
> Besides, i know someone who'd abandoned his family years back, but
> now, whenever he comes to town, the ex's new husband even does his
> laundry for him. They are all friends still. This gave me the
> thought that there's something better and more permanent to be had in
> this world, and i want it. If honesty and humility, faith,
> self-searching, amends, and the building of character and resolutely
> looking for our own faults can turn enemies into friends, and relieve
> alcoholism, i want it. Well, except when i don't :) Still very
> much a daily struggle here...
>
> <sigh>
>
> I have looked at 'love' from both sides, now. I really don't know
> 'love', at all.
>
> ----
>
> "There was never enough of what we thought we wanted, or it was never
> the right kind. "
>

I knew if I kept answering for long enough, You'd say something useful -
monkeys and typewriters aside. Thanks - I'll keep those thoughts with me
on my journey.

[Geoff]

rockhound wrote:

>
>>On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:01:15 GMT, Geoff wrote:
>
>
>>>Oh, so I'm cheap now as well? Can I borrow your crystal ball please?
>
>
> PS.
>
> The best revenge is living well. But i have found the release of air
> from tire valves to be amusing too :)
>

bwaaaahahahahaha

[rockhound]

On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:50:33 +0100, Geoff

>I knew if I kept answering for long enough, You'd say something useful -
>monkeys and typewriters aside. Thanks - I'll keep those thoughts with me
>on my journey.

Here - it's your lucky day - look what i found for you in the crystal
ball field:

A lonely frog telephones the Psychic Hotline and asks what his future
holds. The psychic tells him, "You are going to meet a beautiful
young girl who will want to know everything about you." The frog is
thrilled and inquires, "Where will I meet her?" The psychic replies,
"In biology lab."

[rockhound]

On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:50:33 +0100, Geoff
>I knew if I kept answering for long enough, You'd say something useful -
>monkeys and typewriters aside. Thanks - I'll keep those thoughts with me
>on my journey.

Here, take a little mickey from my personal stash, too, for when you
get thirsty.

This should fall within 'legitimate personal use'...

[rockhound]

On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:27:44 GMT, rockhound <user@null.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:50:33 +0100, Geoff
>>I knew if I kept answering for long enough, You'd say something useful -
>>monkeys and typewriters aside. Thanks - I'll keep those thoughts with me
>>on my journey.
>
>Here, take a little mickey from my personal stash, too, for when you
>get thirsty.
>
>This should fall within 'legitimate personal use'...

If you didn't get it, you should upgrade your news server, because
news is news, even if it's old, and even if ur the last to know.


so...where r we putting our binaries? Anybody know a nice quiet
non-asciiing group somewhere nearby?

[Geoff]

rockhound wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:27:44 GMT, rockhound <user@null.org> wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:50:33 +0100, Geoff
>>
>>>I knew if I kept answering for long enough, You'd say something useful -
>>>monkeys and typewriters aside. Thanks - I'll keep those thoughts with me
>>>on my journey.
>>
>>Here, take a little mickey from my personal stash, too, for when you
>>get thirsty.
>>
>>This should fall within 'legitimate personal use'...
>
>
> If you didn't get it, you should upgrade your news server, because
> news is news, even if it's old, and even if ur the last to know.
>
>
> so...where r we putting our binaries? Anybody know a nice quiet
> non-asciiing group somewhere nearby?

a.b.test?

[rockhound]

Geoff <this.address.is.invalid@this.domain> wrote:

>rockhound wrote:

>> so...where r we putting our binaries? Anybody know a nice quiet
>> non-asciiing group somewhere nearby?

>a.b.test?

'ppears my repost to a.b.test is being drowned out by jesse jane
virtual sex dvd...oh well.