Bobby L.
05-23-2004, 10:07 PM
Just so the rest of us do not have to spend several days or weeks waiting
for him/her to work through his/her "control" issues.
REPOST------------------------------------------
This Group - How It Works.
I keep seeing posts regards how this group should work, and what the folks
here should do and we need an FAQ or a moderator or some shit like that.
Fact is we're mostly alcoholics and an FAQ or moderator would likely be
trashed on day one. I thought perhaps I could offer some suggestions to
newbies here on what's going on.
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First -- This is not an AA meeting - This is not a MM Group -- This is not
an RR group -- This is not a Therapy Group -- This is not a support group.
This is a discussion group (and I use the word discussion loosely).
Second -- The topic is "Addiction to Alcohol." This however, is no
guarantee that we are not going to discuss drugs, diet, or a myriad of other
seemingly related topics. Generally we are alcoholics and we like to talk
about all kinds of shit -- especially when we are looking for something or
someone to blame for our abusive behaviors and lifestyles.
Third -- If you are not happy in the middle of shit storm -- then do not
step into one. There are folks here who are comfortable in shit storms and
are comfortable with pushing ALL your buttons, Jerking your chain or
generally working hard to convince you that you are full of crap. If you're
not comfortable in these types of situations, then when you notice a thread
turning into this situation, just ignore it.
Fourth -- Killfile buttons and block sender lists might cause you miss some
important information. Almost every newsreader file shows the headers with
the senders -- If you don't want to listen to somebody, just don't click on
that header. Simple of course, but as we are mostly alcoholics, I realize
it may not always be that easy -- simple and easy are words for us that are
not synonymous.
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What you might hope to find here:
First -- A most valuable tool -- you can learn when to walk away. You can
learn that spending all day trying to figure out that perfect
response/retort to some asshole like me is just not worth the time.
Sometimes, you can be right or you can happy -- that part is up to you.
Second -- People don't come here to get sober - they come to find and talk
to other alcoholics - Getting sober is something you have to do while "not"
sitting in front of the computer waiting for an opportunity to be profound.
Third -- Open-Mind -- You might learn there is more than one way to do
anything. That's a pretty good start.
Fourth - God or No-God -- You will learn many folks have some very different
ideas about this subject (see Third - above). If you are lucky, you will
learn simply that you are not a GOD or THE GOD - not here - not anywhere.
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So have fun, feel free to jump in (just don't jump in the middle of one of
those shit-storms I mentioned -- unless of course, you like that kind of
stuff).
The ultimate goal here for most of us is to just find another way to help
ourselves stay sober. No great white fathers or mothers here -- just a
nameless group of alcoholics. And remember, some really are sicker than
others. There are all kinds of sobriety out there -- make sure you pick one
you like.
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Bobby L
for him/her to work through his/her "control" issues.
REPOST------------------------------------------
This Group - How It Works.
I keep seeing posts regards how this group should work, and what the folks
here should do and we need an FAQ or a moderator or some shit like that.
Fact is we're mostly alcoholics and an FAQ or moderator would likely be
trashed on day one. I thought perhaps I could offer some suggestions to
newbies here on what's going on.
-----------
First -- This is not an AA meeting - This is not a MM Group -- This is not
an RR group -- This is not a Therapy Group -- This is not a support group.
This is a discussion group (and I use the word discussion loosely).
Second -- The topic is "Addiction to Alcohol." This however, is no
guarantee that we are not going to discuss drugs, diet, or a myriad of other
seemingly related topics. Generally we are alcoholics and we like to talk
about all kinds of shit -- especially when we are looking for something or
someone to blame for our abusive behaviors and lifestyles.
Third -- If you are not happy in the middle of shit storm -- then do not
step into one. There are folks here who are comfortable in shit storms and
are comfortable with pushing ALL your buttons, Jerking your chain or
generally working hard to convince you that you are full of crap. If you're
not comfortable in these types of situations, then when you notice a thread
turning into this situation, just ignore it.
Fourth -- Killfile buttons and block sender lists might cause you miss some
important information. Almost every newsreader file shows the headers with
the senders -- If you don't want to listen to somebody, just don't click on
that header. Simple of course, but as we are mostly alcoholics, I realize
it may not always be that easy -- simple and easy are words for us that are
not synonymous.
-------------
What you might hope to find here:
First -- A most valuable tool -- you can learn when to walk away. You can
learn that spending all day trying to figure out that perfect
response/retort to some asshole like me is just not worth the time.
Sometimes, you can be right or you can happy -- that part is up to you.
Second -- People don't come here to get sober - they come to find and talk
to other alcoholics - Getting sober is something you have to do while "not"
sitting in front of the computer waiting for an opportunity to be profound.
Third -- Open-Mind -- You might learn there is more than one way to do
anything. That's a pretty good start.
Fourth - God or No-God -- You will learn many folks have some very different
ideas about this subject (see Third - above). If you are lucky, you will
learn simply that you are not a GOD or THE GOD - not here - not anywhere.
-------------
So have fun, feel free to jump in (just don't jump in the middle of one of
those shit-storms I mentioned -- unless of course, you like that kind of
stuff).
The ultimate goal here for most of us is to just find another way to help
ourselves stay sober. No great white fathers or mothers here -- just a
nameless group of alcoholics. And remember, some really are sicker than
others. There are all kinds of sobriety out there -- make sure you pick one
you like.
-------------
Bobby L