Focus on the Solutions

[Julie]

To all,
I'm having more and more problems dealing with these continual useless
discussions of what people don't like about AA and other recovery programs.
Two things I challenge the group with:

Can we focus on the solutions here instead of the million failures everyone
has experienced or that they fear?

Is it possible to share the gratitude you have today for being sober or is
that to freakin uplifting to be allowed here?


Ready to leave this dysfunctional insanity,
Julie

[Kai R]

Julie wrote:

> To all,
> I'm having more and more problems dealing with these continual useless
> discussions of what people don't like about AA and other recovery programs.
> Two things I challenge the group with:
>
> Can we focus on the solutions here instead of the million failures everyone
> has experienced or that they fear?
>

Hey, I quit drinking some years ago and haven't really had problems
since. What's next subject.

> Is it possible to share the gratitude you have today for being sober or is
> that to freakin uplifting to be allowed here?
>

Not at all. I'm grateful I didn't write this rant.

Kai

[JB]

"Julie" <Julie919@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:0dTic.2179$g31.781@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> To all,
> I'm having more and more problems dealing with these continual
useless
> discussions of what people don't like about AA and other recovery
programs.
> Two things I challenge the group with:
>
> Can we focus on the solutions here instead of the million failures
everyone
> has experienced or that they fear?

I find this NG as it is to be very beneficial to my recovery. If
*you* have a problem with what goes on here, maybe*you* need to ask
your God to grant you the serenity to accept the things you cannot
change, courage to change the things you can and wisdom to know the
difference..

> Is it possible to share the gratitude you have today for being sober
or is
> that to freakin uplifting to be allowed here?
>
Doesn't everyone here share whatever they consider important to them.

> Ready to leave this dysfunctional insanity,
> Julie

Are you hoping to receive pleas that you'll stay ? :^)

JB

[JB]

"JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
news:c6h1ot$pj1$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
PS:

Julie,

I've no doubt that AA has saved your life. In the spirit of
friendship, I suggest to you that if you practice the 12 Steps
every time anyone here gets on your nerves, you may find one day that
you no longer give anyone here any power to disturb your peace of
mind.

Yours

JB

[rosie]

julie,
with judicial use of your killfile, and responding only to topics of
a positive or helpful nature, this newsgroup isn't so
bad.................

i have enjoyed many of your posts, and those of mias and others.
what is on your agenda today? how are you feeling?

i just got back from shopping and taking a long drive with my
husband.....................there truly isn't much more enjoyable
than taking a slow drive through the lake country areas in
wisconsin.
(really puts it all in perspective)
if the weather clears up, we will be going out on the boat just "to
float" around, with some recovery friends!

rosie
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/politics/elections/2004/whitehouse/kerryjohn/index.html



"Julie" <Julie919@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:0dTic.2179$g31.781@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
: To all,
: I'm having more and more problems dealing with these continual
useless
: discussions of what people don't like about AA and other recovery
programs.
: Two things I challenge the group with:
:
: Can we focus on the solutions here instead of the million failures
everyone
: has experienced or that they fear?
:
: Is it possible to share the gratitude you have today for being
sober or is
: that to freakin uplifting to be allowed here?
:
:
: Ready to leave this dysfunctional insanity,
: Julie
:
:

[Blue Moon]

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 18:13:16 GMT, "Julie" <Julie919@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>Two things I challenge the group with:
>
>Can we focus on the solutions here instead of the million failures everyone
>has experienced or that they fear?
>
>Is it possible to share the gratitude you have today for being sober or is
>that to freakin uplifting to be allowed here?

Would you care to lead by example, rather by than telling everyone
else what they should do without actually doing it?

--
Blue Moon

[Robert McGregor]

"Julie" <Julie919@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:0dTic.2179$g31.781@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> To all,
> I'm having more and more problems dealing with these continual
useless
> discussions of what people don't like about AA and other recovery
programs.
> Two things I challenge the group with:
>
> Can we focus on the solutions here instead of the million failures
everyone
> has experienced or that they fear?
>
> Is it possible to share the gratitude you have today for being sober
or is
> that to freakin uplifting to be allowed here?
>
>
> Ready to leave this dysfunctional insanity,
> Julie
>
http://anonpress.org/bb/Page_61.htm
"Admitting he may be somewhat at fault, he is sure that other people
are more to blame. He becomes angry, indignant, self-pitying. What is
his basic trouble? Is he not really a self-seeker even when trying to
be kind? Is he not a victim of the delusion that he can wrest
satisfaction and happiness out of this world if he only manages well?
Is it not evident to all the rest of the players that these are the
things he wants? And do not his actions make each of them wish to
retaliate, snatching all they can get out of the show? Is he not, even
in his best moments, a producer of confusion rather than harmony?"

[Julie]

Not on the topic JB. Try again.
Julie

"JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
news:c6h1ot$pj1$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "Julie" <Julie919@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:0dTic.2179$g31.781@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> > To all,
> > I'm having more and more problems dealing with these continual
> useless
> > discussions of what people don't like about AA and other recovery
> programs.
> > Two things I challenge the group with:
> >
> > Can we focus on the solutions here instead of the million failures
> everyone
> > has experienced or that they fear?
>
> I find this NG as it is to be very beneficial to my recovery. If
> *you* have a problem with what goes on here, maybe*you* need to ask
> your God to grant you the serenity to accept the things you cannot
> change, courage to change the things you can and wisdom to know the
> difference..
>
> > Is it possible to share the gratitude you have today for being sober
> or is
> > that to freakin uplifting to be allowed here?
> >
> Doesn't everyone here share whatever they consider important to them.
>
> > Ready to leave this dysfunctional insanity,
> > Julie
>
> Are you hoping to receive pleas that you'll stay ? :^)
>
> JB
>
>
>

[Julie]

"JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
news:c6h3vv$cbp$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
> news:c6h1ot$pj1$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> PS:
>
> Julie,
>
> I've no doubt that AA has saved your life. In the spirit of
> friendship, I suggest to you that if you practice the 12 Steps
> every time anyone here gets on your nerves, you may find one day that
> you no longer give anyone here any power to disturb your peace of
> mind.
>
> Yours
>
> JB
>
No one is on my nerves JB. I just thought we might be able to share
something called a "solution." You know a postive thread into recovery and
what worked for you. You are still not on topic here.
Julie
>
>

[Julie]

"rosie" <sorry@toomanyweirdo's.com> wrote in message
news:ghVic.18648$d7.1312@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> julie,
> with judicial use of your killfile, and responding only to topics of
> a positive or helpful nature, this newsgroup isn't so
> bad.................
>
Thats my new agenda Rosie. Be positve and share what recovery has given us.
If I post the topic, then the comments should be on the topic, and not some
aurguenmentive dribble.
If someone doesnt like it they can start their own threads!
Julie
>
> i have enjoyed many of your posts, and those of mias and others.
> what is on your agenda today? how are you feeling?
>
> i just got back from shopping and taking a long drive with my
> husband.....................there truly isn't much more enjoyable
> than taking a slow drive through the lake country areas in
> wisconsin.
> (really puts it all in perspective)
> if the weather clears up, we will be going out on the boat just "to
> float" around, with some recovery friends!
>
> rosie
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/politics/elections/2004/whitehouse/kerryjohn/index.html
>
>
>
> "Julie" <Julie919@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:0dTic.2179$g31.781@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> : To all,
> : I'm having more and more problems dealing with these continual
> useless
> : discussions of what people don't like about AA and other recovery
> programs.
> : Two things I challenge the group with:
> :
> : Can we focus on the solutions here instead of the million failures
> everyone
> : has experienced or that they fear?
> :
> : Is it possible to share the gratitude you have today for being
> sober or is
> : that to freakin uplifting to be allowed here?
> :
> :
> : Ready to leave this dysfunctional insanity,
> : Julie
> :
> :
>
>

[Kai R]

Julie wrote:
> "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
> news:c6h3vv$cbp$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
>>
>>Julie,
>>
>>I've no doubt that AA has saved your life. In the spirit of
>>friendship, I suggest to you that if you practice the 12 Steps
>>every time anyone here gets on your nerves, you may find one day that
>>you no longer give anyone here any power to disturb your peace of
>>mind.
>>
>>Yours
>>
>>JB
>>
>
> No one is on my nerves JB. I just thought we might be able to share
> something called a "solution." You know a postive thread into recovery and
> what worked for you. You are still not on topic here.
> Julie
>

So suggesting the 12 steps is not on topic by you? That's a surprise.

--
Kai

"Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines."
- General "Buck" Turgidson -

[Julie]

"Kai R" <soberon@nospamo.luukku.com> wrote in message
news:c6if3e$jpr$1@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi...
> Julie wrote:
> > "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
> > news:c6h3vv$cbp$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >
> >>
> >>Julie,
> >>
> >>I've no doubt that AA has saved your life. In the spirit of
> >>friendship, I suggest to you that if you practice the 12 Steps
> >>every time anyone here gets on your nerves, you may find one day that
> >>you no longer give anyone here any power to disturb your peace of
> >>mind.
> >>
> >>Yours
> >>
> >>JB
> >>
> >
> > No one is on my nerves JB. I just thought we might be able to share
> > something called a "solution." You know a postive thread into recovery
and
> > what worked for you. You are still not on topic here.
> > Julie
> >
>
> So suggesting the 12 steps is not on topic by you? That's a surprise.
>
> --
> Kai
>
If you want to argue start your own topic and those who want to continuse
these distructive threads can play eith you all they want. This is a topic
I started if I dont think its on topic then its not.
Your comment by the way, has nothing to do with "Focus on the Solutions"
either. Dont you have anything positive you can share with the group that
you have learned about Recovery (a solution you found)?
Baffled by the waste of energy,
Julie
>
we had one of them doomsday machines."
> - General "Buck" Turgidson -

[Blue Moon]

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:56:49 GMT, "Julie" <Julie919@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>This is a topic
>I started if I dont think its on topic then its not.

Ooooh my, you have a *LOT* to learn about usenet, Julie, and on this
evidence you're heading for a lot of pain in learning it.

Lesson 1: any individual owns and controls Fuck All on usenet.

--
Blue Moon

[Kirk S.]

"Julie" <Julie919@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:0dTic.2179$g31.781@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> To all,
> I'm having more and more problems dealing with these continual useless
> discussions of what people don't like about AA and other recovery
programs.
> Two things I challenge the group with:
>
> Can we focus on the solutions here instead of the million failures
everyone
> has experienced or that they fear?

I find that not drinking improves my outlook on the world. I believe that
facing ones fears is what recovery is about. Every time I try something
that doesn't work, is it truly a failure? I only fail when I give up
trying.
>
> Is it possible to share the gratitude you have today for being sober or is
> that to freakin uplifting to be allowed here?

I am glad that I was given the chance to find a new way to live without
drugs or alcohol. Some people never are able or willing to admit to the
problem. I am thankful that I am able to do that much.
>
>
> Ready to leave this dysfunctional insanity,

I'm ready for someone to deal with the spam on all news groups. If you do
leave, I for one will miss your viewpoints.

Kirk S.
> Julie
>
>

[rosie]

: I'm ready for someone to deal with the spam on all news groups.
If you do
: leave, I for one will miss your viewpoints.
:
: Kirk S.


i would miss julie and her attempts to talk recovery in this
newsgroup too!

[Julie]

Still no comment on "focus on the Solutions."
I guess you just don't have any to share? It that it Moon?
Less than 10 hours left,
Julie
"Blue Moon" <mfoco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fafb0329d9e56cd2bab4f8737b160cb1@news.teranew s.com...
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:56:49 GMT, "Julie" <Julie919@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> >This is a topic
> >I started if I dont think its on topic then its not.
>
> Ooooh my, you have a *LOT* to learn about usenet, Julie, and on this
> evidence you're heading for a lot of pain in learning it.
>
> Lesson 1: any individual owns and controls Fuck All on usenet.
>
> --
> Blue Moon