Am I an Alcoholic?

[Rodd]

Hi...
well I would like to give you a bit of a background on my situation,
I am a 20 y.o male student the University that i attend is well knowen
for its Drinking culture.
I personly dont think i am an alcoholic i drink only in a a social
scene But during the last few weeks that scene has been every night.
I have given up drinking and I am on a selfimposed 28 day drinking
detox, but all my friend are fulling me full of doubt as it seems
that everytime we socialise there is alcohol not far away. One friend
even said to me "why would you give up something you love so much?"
I'm asking the Question How can I? I am on day three and its a
wednesday a day that we would normaly gather and get pissed, I dont
feel a craving more left out, Its going to be hard, any tips?
Cheers
R.

[Neil]

> Hi...
> well I would like to give you a bit of a background on my situation,
> I am a 20 y.o male student the University that i attend is well knowen
> for its Drinking culture.
> I personly dont think i am an alcoholic i drink only in a a social
> scene But during the last few weeks that scene has been every night.
> I have given up drinking and I am on a selfimposed 28 day drinking
> detox, but all my friend are fulling me full of doubt as it seems
> that everytime we socialise there is alcohol not far away. One friend
> even said to me "why would you give up something you love so much?"
> I'm asking the Question How can I? I am on day three and its a
> wednesday a day that we would normaly gather and get pissed, I dont
> feel a craving more left out, Its going to be hard, any tips?
>

Personally...I think you will know....
When you need a strong beer in the morning (ie..7.00AM) then start
worrying...
If YOU think you have a problem, then maybe you already do???

[Robert McGregor]

"Neil" <dozypillock@yahoo.co.remove.uk> wrote in message
news:pHZhc.324$SV6.156@newsfe1-win...
>
> > Hi...
> > well I would like to give you a bit of a background on my
situation,
> > I am a 20 y.o male student the University that i attend is well
knowen
> > for its Drinking culture.
> > I personly dont think i am an alcoholic i drink only in a a
social
> > scene But during the last few weeks that scene has been every
night.
> > I have given up drinking and I am on a selfimposed 28 day
drinking
> > detox, but all my friend are fulling me full of doubt as it
seems
> > that everytime we socialise there is alcohol not far away. One
friend
> > even said to me "why would you give up something you love so
much?"
> > I'm asking the Question How can I? I am on day three and its a
> > wednesday a day that we would normaly gather and get pissed, I
dont
> > feel a craving more left out, Its going to be hard, any tips?
> >
>
> Personally...I think you will know....
> When you need a strong beer in the morning (ie..7.00AM) then
start
> worrying...
> If YOU think you have a problem, then maybe you already do???
>
>

Social ineptitude can be an obvious trigger for problem drinking.
Countless problem drinkers learn the benefits of moderation, so simply
grow up and out of that problem. Problem drinking is problem drinking,
and not necessarily alcoholism, at all.

Bob

[Rodd]

Hey well i have made it to day 12 and I have not had a drink of booze,
altough i had a very differnt weekend from my normal three/ four day
bender I actualy was itching for a beer the other day friday. craving
i guess you'd call it.... but well i'm starting to feel better.
but you know that feeling when you come home and you sit down put your
feet up and all you want is a ice cold beer... yer well i have had
that hankering the worst is that i have beer at my house a well i
could so easerly go home and crack a brew..... better stop thinking
like that.
thanks
R

[rosie]

congrats on your first 12 days!
i hope you continue to physically heal, you are fortunate to have
apparently stopped in time!

in my case, i needed the help of a recovery program (AA)to help with
my "stinkin thinkin" that always led to me starting my drinking
again.

--
rosie

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or
that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
........................................T.Roosevel t
http://www.misleader.org











"Rodd" <ross_Allen_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7eeb62e.0404282221.37e03c76@posting.google.co m...
: Hey well i have made it to day 12 and I have not had a drink of
booze,
: altough i had a very differnt weekend from my normal three/ four
day
: bender I actualy was itching for a beer the other day friday.
craving
: i guess you'd call it.... but well i'm starting to feel better.
: but you know that feeling when you come home and you sit down put
your
: feet up and all you want is a ice cold beer... yer well i have had
: that hankering the worst is that i have beer at my house a well i
: could so easerly go home and crack a brew..... better stop
thinking
: like that.
: thanks
: R

[rockhound]

On 28 Apr 2004 23:21:44 -0700, ross_Allen_@hotmail.com (Rodd) wrote:

>Hey well i have made it to day 12 and I have not had a drink of booze,
>altough i had a very differnt weekend from my normal three/ four day
>bender I actualy was itching for a beer the other day friday. craving
>i guess you'd call it.... but well i'm starting to feel better.
>but you know that feeling when you come home and you sit down put your
>feet up and all you want is a ice cold beer... yer well i have had
>that hankering the worst is that i have beer at my house a well i
>could so easerly go home and crack a brew..... better stop thinking
>like that.
>thanks
>R

Sure do know that feeling, spring in the air, warm sunshine! The
other day getting groceries I actually found myself dragging my
eyeballs off those fruity coolers I loved so much! Thirsty. Yet,
somehow, there doesn't appear to be any much real effort required to
resist the temptation anymore. The normal blinding rationalizations
for having a little wee sip just aren't there. Them coolers would
have possessed my mind while shopping not long ago, wondering how much
I could load in the cart without anybody noticing...

In fact, I've even been driving around with a bottle of Crown Royal
that I had intended as a gift for the phone line technician that
solved our problems moving, and I barely remember it's there. Since I
haven't run into him lately, I thought maybe it'd come in handy at
some other time, for this 'working with others' business I'm told I'll
have to do if I want to keep this new freedom.

I feel possessed of a semblance of sanity, at least as far as booze is
concerned. Weird, not fighting it. Much appreciated. The AA faith
thing isn't so bad.

Maybe if we go camping this year i might actually be able to join in
the fun and swim and fish and rock climb...that'd sure be nice,
instead of wrecking everybody's time. God willing.

not-quite-so-thirsty-no-more,
rockhound

[John Droge]

"Rodd" <ross_Allen_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7eeb62e.0404282221.37e03c76@posting.google.co m...
> Hey well i have made it to day 12 and I have not had a drink of booze,
> altough i had a very differnt weekend from my normal three/ four day
> bender I actualy was itching for a beer the other day friday. craving
> i guess you'd call it.... but well i'm starting to feel better.
> but you know that feeling when you come home and you sit down put your
> feet up and all you want is a ice cold beer... yer well i have had
> that hankering the worst is that i have beer at my house a well i
> could so easerly go home and crack a brew..... better stop thinking
> like that.
> thanks
> R
Congrats on twelve days in many ways the first are the worst, they were for
me. I hope you have some support to keep you sober. Alcohol in the house?
I've got a year and I couldn't do it yet. If it were around like that and
I'm all alone I'd probably drink it sooner or later, but we're all different
and yet all the same.
Keep On Keepin' On
John

[rockhound]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:12:29 GMT, "John Droge"
<jhdroge@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Congrats on twelve days in many ways the first are the worst, they were for
>me. I hope you have some support to keep you sober. Alcohol in the house?
>I've got a year and I couldn't do it yet. If it were around like that and
>I'm all alone I'd probably drink it sooner or later, but we're all different
>and yet all the same.
>Keep On Keepin' On
>John

Why does the above 'sobriety' look like such a drag? I'd rather be
smashed than mope like that. Would never have started on this AA
spirited program of action if I'd thought it meant sitting on my hands
fighting the unfightable drink a year from now, or being stupid,
boring and glum like some of the righteous people around here. Or
enduring a slow sedated suicide like some of our friends who've found
prescriptions. Not sure what brand of sobriety you've been smoking -
I've been having a riot.

For example, there's nothing quite so satisfying as a conscious and
deliberate game of road rage with an eighteen wheeler at seven o'clock
in the morning after a good night's sleep...OK buddy, wanna get up
close and personal eh...hey have a gooooood look...50
mph....45....40.........30...29....28....How do you like me so far you
son of a bitch? as he veers into the oncoming lane...

Could never pull that off quite so smoothly when drinking.

But then...I'm not altogether 'well' yet...

Best wishes to you anyway,
rockhound

[JB]

"rockhound" <user@null.org> wrote in message
news:fa43bd9cd4ac8a25027661fda4cf78d5@news.teranew s.com...
> Why does the above 'sobriety' look like such a drag? I'd rather be
> smashed than mope like that. Would never have started on this AA
> spirited program of action if I'd thought it meant sitting on my
hands
> fighting the unfightable drink a year from now, or being stupid,
> boring and glum like some of the righteous people around here.

<snip>

OK :^) So what made you decide to try AA ?

BTW, what does the phrase "spirited program of action" refer ?

JB

[rockhound]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:52:38 +0100, "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote:

>
>"rockhound" <user@null.org> wrote in message
>news:fa43bd9cd4ac8a25027661fda4cf78d5@news.teranew s.com...
>> Why does the above 'sobriety' look like such a drag? I'd rather be
>> smashed than mope like that. Would never have started on this AA
>> spirited program of action if I'd thought it meant sitting on my
>hands
>> fighting the unfightable drink a year from now, or being stupid,
>> boring and glum like some of the righteous people around here.
>
><snip>
>
>OK :^) So what made you decide to try AA ?

A stranger approached me at age 17, an alcoholic, not some ordinary
drunk, but a sober one, to whom the world appeared to make sense. He
seemed to understand me like nobody else I had ever met. I could not
understand what he was talking about, but found myself strangely drawn
to him and tried hard to see what he was seeing.

He explained the deadly nature of alcoholism to me, how he himself had
been stricken by it. He said that he was driven by a compulsion to
drink, a queer mental condition whereby no matter whether he ruminated
the almost certain grave consequences of taking a drink, there
inevitably ran alongside in his mind some trivial excuse for taking
it. That he was unable, at certain times, to bring into consciousness
with sufficient force to stop him picking up a drink, the memory of
the suffering and humiliation of even a week or a month ago. The
insane idea that he could safely take a drink won out every time. He
went on to say that once he started to drink he lost all control over
the amount that he would take, eventually robbing him of his health,
his wealth, his family's affections, the respect of his peers, and his
own self-respect, slowly and rapaciously destroying any sort of life
he struggled to build and maintain.

He went on to describe his efforts to quit, how he found that no
matter what he tried he could not give it up entirely, how baffled he
was and frightened he'd become, how although there were hopeful
periods where it appeared he was regaining control, these were always
inevitably followed by a still worse relapse. He finally learned, he
said, that he was sick, and could not control his drinking. He
declared flatly that the world had found no cure for alcoholism, yet
here he stood with no craving for drink whatsoever.

He said that some sober, cheery fellows had befriended him at a local
meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous, told humorous tales of their
escapades, sometimes dwelling on the troubles liquor had caused them,
and described to him the spirited program of action that they had
successfully applied to their own drink problem. They insisted that
no human power could relieve my friend's dilemma, but that there was a
power that could, and that perhaps he might be badly affected enough
that he too might have to find this power if he were to survive. They
had the nerve to say that they had come to believe that this power
they had found was God himself!

Although he didn't care for their notions of God, and outright said
so, he had to admit that these fellows certainly knew about the
drinking game. Yet there they stood, living proof that they had found
something that was working, respecting the drink problem. They
pointed out to my dishevelled friend that he really did not have to
believe in any God at all in order to have this obsession banished,
that they themselves had found that all that had been required on
their part was a simple willingness to believe in whatever god they
could bring themselves to imagine that there might be. They said that
once they had acquired that little bit of willingness, they were able
to reach out to it in the dark, asking that they be relieved of
alcoholism. That what had first appeard a flimsy reed indeed had
turned out to be the loving and powerful hand of God.

They told my friend that in their own cases nothing had helped them
achieve this willingness to believe in a power greater than themselves
better than another round with alcohol, but suggested that in his case
he might continue to try other means of combat.

Unfortunately, this only deepened my friend's dilemma, and he tried to
acquire what they had, but found he could not. He had hoped that what
they had told him of alcoholism had given enough understanding of it
that he would not let himself be fooled by the mental condition
surrounding that first drink. Yet he presently found himself
drinking again. He vaguely suspected that he might go insane, or
even die, there, in his cups.

Feeling abandoned and alone, he thought of his church-going mother and
her fights through the years with his drunken father. He thought of
all the religious people in the world that he had known and the
thought of them disturbed him so greatly he knew in his heart of
hearts he would have no truck with any God that allowed such pain,
horror and stupidity in this world. He began to weep, and in this
crushing moment, he truly lost his reliance on things human. He
recalled the words of his friends, that he only need be willing to
believe in whatever higher power he thought there might be. He said,
quietly, god, if there is one, to hell with you.

And went to sleep.

The next morning he awoke to hear his wife in the kitchen, washed his
face, and went downstairs to sit with her. They talked about a few
things, then she looked at him and asked what happened. She said that
there was something unusual about him today, something calm. He only
shrugged. He did not know. Strangely, though, the obsession to
drink had vanished, and he busied himself cleaning up the house.

He hasn't had a drink since. He said that he learned since then that
he had indeed acquired the vital willingness to believe on something
that was not a human remedy, but that he didn't think this would have
occurred had it not been for those two fellows that had befriended
him. He went to see his friends again, and they helped him to
commence a vigorous new manner of living that entailed facing his
character squarely as he found it, humbly asking god to remove those
maladjustments that stood in the way of his helpfulness to others,
cleaning up his debts, putting his relationships right, and pouring
himself wholly into working with other alcoholics, that they might
find this solution as well. They told him that he might not keep
sober if he did not learn to place the welfare of others ahead of his
very own. His thoughts must be constantly on others and what he could
do for them. They said that faith without works was dead, and if he
failed to expand his new spiritual condition through work,
self-sacrifice, and action on behalf of others he may not get over the
booze entirely. They held out story after story of just such
experiences among their acquaintances. They said he must be careful
never to pray for himself except as it had bearing on his usefulness
to others.

He said that he commenced this new way of living because he was afraid
that he had to, that although all his problems did not disappear
overnight, he had found a new freedom and a new happiness. That he
had been learning, sometimes slowly, to place character ahead of
comfort. That he had now come to live in a new world, one ruled by
justice and love. That he did not regret his past, he found that it
had become the very tool by which he could reach the next suffering
alcoholic, for he knew the cave where we live, shivering denizens of
alcohol's mad realm.

He said that his own approach to his creator, although cold, had been
sufficient to effect contact, and that it has only grown and deepened
and broadened since then, to the extent that he has brimmed over with
gratitude, and that he knew now that this thing must be the loving god
of our fathers.

He stressed that his effort to carry this message to me, so many years
later, was vital to his own recovery, that it kept him sober, for he
could not keep it if he did not make a constant effort to give it
away. He said the instructions for this way of living as a defense
against alcohol had been recorded by some of his old friends in a
large blue book entitled 'Alcoholics Anonymous'.

One day, bewildered and beaten, the day came for me, that I needed and
wanted what he had more than anything else in the world.

I recently found that puzzling book in the brain-teaser section of the
local public library.

>BTW, what does the phrase "spirited program of action" refer ?
>
>JB
>

[rockhound]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:19:00 +0100, "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote:

>
>"rockhound" <user@null.org> wrote in message
>news:8da9f4612cab85220a711961d67addbd@news.teranew s.com...
>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:52:38 +0100, "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com>
>wrote:
>
>> >OK :^) So what made you decide to try AA ?
>
>Rockhound wrote:
>
>> A stranger approached me at age 17, an alcoholic, not some ordinary
>> drunk, but a sober one, to whom the world appeared to make sense.
>He
>> seemed to understand me like nobody else I had ever met. I could
>not
>> understand what he was talking about, but found myself strangely
>drawn
>> to him and tried hard to see what he was seeing.
>
><snip>
>
>> He stressed that his effort to carry this message to me, so many
>years
>> later, was vital to his own recovery, that it kept him sober, for he
>> could not keep it if he did not make a constant effort to give it
>> away. He said the instructions for this way of living as a defense
>> against alcohol had been recorded by some of his old friends in a
>> large blue book entitled 'Alcoholics Anonymous'.
>>
>> One day, bewildered and beaten, the day came for me, that I needed
>and
>> wanted what he had more than anything else in the world.
>
>You think you'll get it by doing nothing more than read the book ?
>
>JB

Do you?

[rockhound]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:19:00 +0100, "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote:

>
>"rockhound" <user@null.org> wrote in message
>news:8da9f4612cab85220a711961d67addbd@news.teranew s.com...
>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:52:38 +0100, "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com>
>wrote:
>
>> >OK :^) So what made you decide to try AA ?
>
>Rockhound wrote:
>
>> A stranger approached me at age 17, an alcoholic, not some ordinary
>> drunk, but a sober one, to whom the world appeared to make sense.
>He
>> seemed to understand me like nobody else I had ever met. I could
>not
>> understand what he was talking about, but found myself strangely
>drawn
>> to him and tried hard to see what he was seeing.
>
><snip>
>
>> He stressed that his effort to carry this message to me, so many
>years
>> later, was vital to his own recovery, that it kept him sober, for he
>> could not keep it if he did not make a constant effort to give it
>> away. He said the instructions for this way of living as a defense
>> against alcohol had been recorded by some of his old friends in a
>> large blue book entitled 'Alcoholics Anonymous'.
>>
>> One day, bewildered and beaten, the day came for me, that I needed
>and
>> wanted what he had more than anything else in the world.
>
>You think you'll get it by doing nothing more than read the book ?
>
>JB
>
No. I have found that the spiritual life is not a theory. If we are
to get well, we must live it.

[JB]

"rockhound" <user@null.org> wrote in message
news:8da9f4612cab85220a711961d67addbd@news.teranew s.com...
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:52:38 +0100, "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com>
wrote:

> >OK :^) So what made you decide to try AA ?

Rockhound wrote:

> A stranger approached me at age 17, an alcoholic, not some ordinary
> drunk, but a sober one, to whom the world appeared to make sense.
He
> seemed to understand me like nobody else I had ever met. I could
not
> understand what he was talking about, but found myself strangely
drawn
> to him and tried hard to see what he was seeing.

<snip>

> He stressed that his effort to carry this message to me, so many
years
> later, was vital to his own recovery, that it kept him sober, for he
> could not keep it if he did not make a constant effort to give it
> away. He said the instructions for this way of living as a defense
> against alcohol had been recorded by some of his old friends in a
> large blue book entitled 'Alcoholics Anonymous'.
>
> One day, bewildered and beaten, the day came for me, that I needed
and
> wanted what he had more than anything else in the world.

You think you'll get it by doing nothing more than read the book ?

JB

[JB]

"rockhound" <user@null.org> wrote in message
news:4480483f665c792faf9eb175f11c82db@news.teranew s.com...
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:19:00 +0100, "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com>
wrote:
> >> One day, bewildered and beaten, the day came for me, that I
needed
> >and
> >> wanted what he had more than anything else in the world.
> >
> >You think you'll get it by doing nothing more than read the book ?
> >
> >JB
>
> Do you?

I do not think it will be possible.

JB

[John Droge]

> Why does the above 'sobriety' look like such a drag? I'd rather be
> smashed than mope like that. Would never have started on this AA
> spirited program of action if I'd thought it meant sitting on my hands
> fighting the unfightable drink a year from now, or being stupid,
> boring and glum like some of the righteous people around here. Or
> enduring a slow sedated suicide like some of our friends who've found
> prescriptions. Not sure what brand of sobriety you've been smoking -
>
Hey Rock,
I like my sobriety, at the end of my drinking career I was a zombie- a
walkin' dead man. Today I'm alive again. I go up in the mountains and fish
again and not just drown worms and I can actually ski again. I go out to
dinner with AA friends. I meet my daughter at CSU in Ft Collins and visit
with her and have sushi and shoot pool with her. I go to movies and the
theater instead of being zoned out watching the cable. Some days things suck
and guess what? I don't drink; some days all is smooth and guess what? I
don't drink. I like AA meetings, I like AA people (mostly anyway). Life is
good, shit its a gas!
Road Rage--I'm allergic to it. It makes me break out in things like
handcuffs and cops and my PO frowns upon police contact for me.
No meds for me and I quit smoking weed 6 years ago after doing it for about
34 years. That was a piece of cake all by myself. Now alcohol--that took a
Higher Power and AA to quit.
Hope you find some Peace.
John

[rockhound]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:24:00 GMT, "John Droge"
<jhdroge@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Hey Rock,
>I like my sobriety, at the end of my drinking career I was a zombie- a
>walkin' dead man. Today I'm alive again. I go up in the mountains and fish
>again and not just drown worms and I can actually ski again. I go out to
>dinner with AA friends. I meet my daughter at CSU in Ft Collins and visit
>with her and have sushi and shoot pool with her. I go to movies and the
>theater instead of being zoned out watching the cable. Some days things suck
>and guess what? I don't drink; some days all is smooth and guess what? I
>don't drink. I like AA meetings, I like AA people (mostly anyway). Life is
>good, shit its a gas!
>Road Rage--I'm allergic to it. It makes me break out in things like
>handcuffs and cops and my PO frowns upon police contact for me.
>No meds for me and I quit smoking weed 6 years ago after doing it for about
>34 years. That was a piece of cake all by myself. Now alcohol--that took a
>Higher Power and AA to quit.
>Hope you find some Peace.
>John

Sounds like you got your shit together. Ah the simple, tranquil
pleasures of life. They still seem a bit of a ways away to
me...probably because of the peacelessness. Thank you. My attitude
towards it today seems to be...hmmmm...

....like it was a necessary evil that has accomplished its task, having
delivered a knockout blow, having convinced me to do what I must, now
standing quietly beside me, an ever-present reminder that this
newfound freedom from it is an undeserved reward for work i surely
have not yet commenced, and if i do it, and forget not from whence my
freedom come, maybe i will be kept in this safe zone.

Funny, i have been possessed before by socialist democrat left-wing
hippie notions that the world somehow surely owed me a living; in
taking 'personal inventory' now, i realize that in fact i have had my
hand out my entire life with demands and expectations, and how very
empty it is indeed.

God keep me willing to work for my keep.

Thank you for your thoughts,

rockhound

[Kai R]

rockhound wrote:

>
> No. I have found that the spiritual life is not a theory. If we are
> to get well, we must live it.

I've noticed that one of the compulsory prerequisites of me getting to
live the kind of life I want to live is that I first have to start
living it the way I want it to be. As long as I refuse to live the
"good life", I cannot live it.

The above may sound stupid and obvious, but it was a major revelation
to me. To learn how to live differently I had to actively change my
life and start living the new, better life. If I kept on waiting for
it to happen, it would never materialize. I was the only person able
to live my life differently.

--
Kai

"Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines."
- General "Buck" Turgidson -

[John Droge]

"Kai R" <soberon@nospamo.luukku.com> wrote in message
news:c759u1$51p$1@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi...
> rockhound wrote:
>
> >
> > No. I have found that the spiritual life is not a theory. If we are
> > to get well, we must live it.
>
> I've noticed that one of the compulsory prerequisites of me getting to
> live the kind of life I want to live is that I first have to start
> living it the way I want it to be. As long as I refuse to live the
> "good life", I cannot live it.
>
> The above may sound stupid and obvious, but it was a major revelation
> to me. To learn how to live differently I had to actively change my
> life and start living the new, better life. If I kept on waiting for
> it to happen, it would never materialize. I was the only person able
> to live my life differently.
>
> --
> Kai
>
> "Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines."
> - General "Buck" Turgidson -
Kai,
It does not seem simple and obvious to me. It sounds right on enough and
dare I say eloquent that I have already sent it on to other AA friends.
Thanks
John

[Rodd]

Hey back again just up dateing my progress.
well yet another weekend has passed and well friday passed with out
drinking i actuly took a friend of mine to the movies, anyway
saturday......
well what can i say day 20 (i think i need to look at my calander at
home) well i had desided that i would drink this night but be in
charge of what i drink rather than the drink be in charge of me. I
can actuly say that this is the first time i have sucseded at being
incharge.
i know that i could have not drunk on saturday but i feel that i have
been missing out on the social contex that surounds drinking....
Hell i didnt even want to drink but once me and my old friend "MR
BEER" got togeather again well i realised that i had missed him.
Has anyone found that they need another fix? ihave taken to smoking...
and i was an adament non-smoker before i stoped drinking....

better go
r