Help with detox

[jim]

Hey all,

I am not a troll. This is a serious question.

I had 6 years sobriety from '90 to '96 before relapse. Been drinkin now
for 8 years. I'm up to about a pint and 12 pack a day. Totally
functional. Get up every day at 5:30 to go to work. Throw up in the
bathroom every morning because of the chronic acid reflux because my
esophagus is burned out. My liver is also shot. I forget what my doctor
said. But I think the alt score (is that correct) is around 185.

I don't drink to blackout. I don't beat my wife. I do though drink a
pint of jack and a 12 pack of 7.3% alc./vol beer a night.

I want to quit. I'm up to 240lbs and have chronic acid reflux and chest
pain. I can go about 36 hours without a drink and then I start to shake
and vomit. I will get a migraine and the pain is unbelievable.

I know the bottom line of meetings and a sponsor. I'm willing to work
the program and try sobriety again. But this wall of getting over the
physical addiction scares the crap out of me.

I can't afford to go to rehab or detox. Can anyone recommend something
to help me get over this hump? Vitamins or something? I'll try anything.

I can't miss work though and can't afford a hospital. My wife doesn't
work and I have two kids. One with very expensive medical bills.

Any help would be appreciated.

Jim

[Blue Moon]

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 21:51:12 GMT, jim <jimnandiNO@SPAMhotmail.com>
wrote:

>I know the bottom line of meetings and a sponsor. I'm willing to work
>the program and try sobriety again. But this wall of getting over the
>physical addiction scares the crap out of me.
>
>I can't afford to go to rehab or detox. Can anyone recommend something
>to help me get over this hump? Vitamins or something? I'll try anything.
>
>I can't miss work though and can't afford a hospital. My wife doesn't
>work and I have two kids. One with very expensive medical bills.

For detox, you could see a doctor about a prescription for some
valium. *Not* to be mixed with booze Use vitamins, particularly
vitamin B. Drink plenty of fluids, and eat sugary stuff to replace
the sugars in the alcohol. Maintain a healthy diet, and try to rest
well.

In order to not drink again, AA's Steps are important.if you go the AA
route. There's more to recovery with AA than meetings.

--
Blue Moon

[rosie]

My liver is also shot. I forget what my doctor
: said. But I think the alt score (is that correct) is around 185.






the alt score is the old SGOT and 185 IS high.


please call your doctor and ask for some help.
tell him/her
EVERYTHING......................................(i ncluding the info
on the 36hr detox)
there are some meds that might help, but only your doctor and you
can figure out what best for you.................
in the meantime, start cutting down on the amount your drinking, and
get back into contact with your meetings and your sponsor.
best of everything to you, and i hope you will keep us posted!
rosie




:
: I don't drink to blackout. I don't beat my wife. I do though drink
a
: pint of jack and a 12 pack of 7.3% alc./vol beer a night.
:
: I want to quit. I'm up to 240lbs and have chronic acid reflux and
chest
: pain. I can go about 36 hours without a drink and then I start to
shake
: and vomit. I will get a migraine and the pain is unbelievable.
:
: I know the bottom line of meetings and a sponsor. I'm willing to
work
: the program and try sobriety again. But this wall of getting over
the
: physical addiction scares the crap out of me.
:
: I can't afford to go to rehab or detox. Can anyone recommend
something
: to help me get over this hump? Vitamins or something? I'll try
anything.
:
: I can't miss work though and can't afford a hospital. My wife
doesn't
: work and I have two kids. One with very expensive medical bills.
:
: Any help would be appreciated.
:
: Jim

[Luci]

I agree with what the others have said. Contact your doctor. He can give
you a prescription for valium or a similar medication. I suggest when you
get the prescription filled, you give it to your wife or a friend to
dispense to you. You will probably only need it for a couple of days and I
wouldn't recomend hanging on to any such medication after the worst of the
detox is over.

"jim" <jimnandiNO@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94CFB5A6D87jimnandiNOSPAMhotmai@130.81.64. 196...
> Hey all,
>
> I am not a troll. This is a serious question.
>
> I had 6 years sobriety from '90 to '96 before relapse. Been drinkin now
> for 8 years. I'm up to about a pint and 12 pack a day. Totally
> functional. Get up every day at 5:30 to go to work. Throw up in the
> bathroom every morning because of the chronic acid reflux because my
> esophagus is burned out. My liver is also shot. I forget what my doctor
> said. But I think the alt score (is that correct) is around 185.
>
> I don't drink to blackout. I don't beat my wife. I do though drink a
> pint of jack and a 12 pack of 7.3% alc./vol beer a night.
>
> I want to quit. I'm up to 240lbs and have chronic acid reflux and chest
> pain. I can go about 36 hours without a drink and then I start to shake
> and vomit. I will get a migraine and the pain is unbelievable.
>
> I know the bottom line of meetings and a sponsor. I'm willing to work
> the program and try sobriety again. But this wall of getting over the
> physical addiction scares the crap out of me.
>
> I can't afford to go to rehab or detox. Can anyone recommend something
> to help me get over this hump? Vitamins or something? I'll try anything.
>
> I can't miss work though and can't afford a hospital. My wife doesn't
> work and I have two kids. One with very expensive medical bills.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Jim

[Robert McGregor]

A plan is detailed @ http://usrwww.mpx.com.au/~apfdfy/Homedetx.htm
Since sending the link, an acquaintance of mine has adopted this plan
at a church detox/rehab facility, but I have not heard of any results
as yet.

If you fit the AA hard drinker category
http://anonpress.org/bb/Page_20.htm you may find socialising with
AAers is all you need, without having to bother with any of the dogma.
http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/en_pioneers5.pdf

HTH
Bob

"jim" <jimnandiNO@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94CFB5A6D87jimnandiNOSPAMhotmai@130.81.64. 196...
> Hey all,
>
> I am not a troll. This is a serious question.
>
> I had 6 years sobriety from '90 to '96 before relapse. Been drinkin
now
> for 8 years. I'm up to about a pint and 12 pack a day. Totally
> functional. Get up every day at 5:30 to go to work. Throw up in the
> bathroom every morning because of the chronic acid reflux because my
> esophagus is burned out. My liver is also shot. I forget what my
doctor
> said. But I think the alt score (is that correct) is around 185.
>
> I don't drink to blackout. I don't beat my wife. I do though drink a
> pint of jack and a 12 pack of 7.3% alc./vol beer a night.
>
> I want to quit. I'm up to 240lbs and have chronic acid reflux and
chest
> pain. I can go about 36 hours without a drink and then I start to
shake
> and vomit. I will get a migraine and the pain is unbelievable.
>
> I know the bottom line of meetings and a sponsor. I'm willing to
work
> the program and try sobriety again. But this wall of getting over
the
> physical addiction scares the crap out of me.
>
> I can't afford to go to rehab or detox. Can anyone recommend
something
> to help me get over this hump? Vitamins or something? I'll try
anything.
>
> I can't miss work though and can't afford a hospital. My wife
doesn't
> work and I have two kids. One with very expensive medical bills.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Jim

[Mias]

Dear Jim - Stopping is not easy and about the only solid advice that I can
give you, whatever way you stop, is to hang in there, things do get better
after a while. In my case it was very much an act of faith in stories
related by others, that things would get better, and it did! I pray that you
will succeed and also that you will not walk that lonely road alone. One
needs all the support one can get.
Kind regards
Mias
"jim" <jimnandiNO@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94CFB5A6D87jimnandiNOSPAMhotmai@130.81.64. 196...
> Hey all,
>
> I am not a troll. This is a serious question.
>
> I had 6 years sobriety from '90 to '96 before relapse. Been drinkin now
> for 8 years. I'm up to about a pint and 12 pack a day. Totally
> functional. Get up every day at 5:30 to go to work. Throw up in the
> bathroom every morning because of the chronic acid reflux because my
> esophagus is burned out. My liver is also shot. I forget what my doctor
> said. But I think the alt score (is that correct) is around 185.
>
> I don't drink to blackout. I don't beat my wife. I do though drink a
> pint of jack and a 12 pack of 7.3% alc./vol beer a night.
>
> I want to quit. I'm up to 240lbs and have chronic acid reflux and chest
> pain. I can go about 36 hours without a drink and then I start to shake
> and vomit. I will get a migraine and the pain is unbelievable.
>
> I know the bottom line of meetings and a sponsor. I'm willing to work
> the program and try sobriety again. But this wall of getting over the
> physical addiction scares the crap out of me.
>
> I can't afford to go to rehab or detox. Can anyone recommend something
> to help me get over this hump? Vitamins or something? I'll try anything.
>
> I can't miss work though and can't afford a hospital. My wife doesn't
> work and I have two kids. One with very expensive medical bills.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Jim

[Julie]

"Blue Moon" <mfoco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:36d8433424dfa5453dc0a1ff541d0f61@news.teranew s.com...
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 21:51:12 GMT, jim <jimnandiNO@SPAMhotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I know the bottom line of meetings and a sponsor. I'm willing to work
> >the program and try sobriety again. But this wall of getting over the
> >physical addiction scares the crap out of me.
> >
> >I can't afford to go to rehab or detox. Can anyone recommend something
> >to help me get over this hump? Vitamins or something? I'll try anything.
> >
> >I can't miss work though and can't afford a hospital. My wife doesn't
> >work and I have two kids. One with very expensive medical bills.
>
> For detox, you could see a doctor about a prescription for some
> valium. *Not* to be mixed with booze Use vitamins, particularly
> vitamin B. Drink plenty of fluids, and eat sugary stuff to replace
> the sugars in the alcohol. Maintain a healthy diet, and try to rest
> well.
>
> In order to not drink again, AA's Steps are important.if you go the AA
> route. There's more to recovery with AA than meetings.
>
> --
> Blue Moon
>
good point!
Julie

[Bpyboy]

wow, the throwing up in the morning because of acid reflux was the seriously
big reason I stopped drinking some months ago!

And, you know, i'm still trying ot heal up that damage, and taking Nexium (the
"purple pill") to try and fix the damage to the esophagus, and watching what I
eat.

A friend of mine found a doctor who agreed to treat him outpatient. But it was
a lot of trouble for him--had to have someone sign a waiver that they would
deliver the drugs on a rigid schedule, make sure he wasn't drinking.... I
don't know how much he was taking (the valium that is), but it was something
like 10mg every 6 hours--anyways, a hell of a lot of valium!

Probably a good idea--valium and booze can be a wicked combination!

Take care and good luck!
John

[Ron]

On 19 Apr 2004 09:30:56 GMT, Bpyboy <bpyboy@aol.com> wrote:

> wow, the throwing up in the morning because of acid reflux was the seriously
> big reason I stopped drinking some months ago!

That wasn't why I quit, but I know what you mean.

I'm coming up on five months sober soon. I haven't been sober that long
since I was about 16 years old. One of the things I'm discovering is
that a lot of physical annoyances I was chalking up to age, my diet,
stress (i.e. - basically anything but alcohol) are not bother me. I had
pretty much quit drinking coffee, because it was making me ill. Now it
doesn't really bother me. I've checked myself into the emergency room
on account of what, for lack of a better term, I'll call panic attacks -
feeling so out of sorts I thought I might collapse. Got a couple of
good thorough physicals out that showed I should be feeling just fine.
Best effort at self-diagnosis would be that I was having a hypoglycemic
episode. All-in-all, I just feel better. I just wasn't making the
connection between how I phyically felt, and my drinking. How stupid is
that?

It feels good to feel good, eh?

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