I'm wondering what meetings are like in other countries. Do they all
throw in the christian stuff? Or do some countries throw in their own
major religion? Or do some places have a program that truly is
"spiritual" and not "religious"?

Just curious,

Tono

On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:38:52 GMT, Tono <tono1@verizon.net> wrote:

>I'm wondering what meetings are like in other countries. Do they all
>throw in the christian stuff? Or do some countries throw in their own
>major religion? Or do some places have a program that truly is
>"spiritual" and not "religious"?

I sobered up in Dorset, England, and attended plenty of AA meetings
without once hearing the "Lord's Prayer". Not sure that could happen
where I am now, in the US. That's the biggest difference I've
noticed, although the service structure is a little different.
Geography seems to play a role in the element of "religion" that goes
into local meetings.

--
Blue Moon

On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:38:52 GMT, Tono <tono1@verizon.net> wrote:

> I'm wondering what meetings are like in other countries. Do they all
> throw in the christian stuff? Or do some countries throw in their own
> major religion? Or do some places have a program that truly is
> "spiritual" and not "religious"?

Not having the resources of the Christian religion near at hand makes
recovery from alcoholism well nigh impossible. Knowing this, most
states with an Islamic foundation make drinking a punishable offense, as
they are inherently unequipped to deal with the consequences. More
tolerant regions have lost millions to pandemic outbreaks of alcoholism,
which is why the consequences of their wayward beliefs are so hard to
discern: the philistines are all dead.

--
AB5DB9CC

tono,
here in the area of wisconsin that i live in, the RELIGIOUS "twist"
is not there.
we DON'T say the LORD'S PRAYER, and we DON'T talk GOD, but rather we
use the reference of HP and use the serenity prayer after our
meetings.

--
rosie

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or
that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
........................................T.Roosevel t





"Tono" <tono1@verizon.net> wrote in message
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: I'm wondering what meetings are like in other countries. Do they
all
: throw in the christian stuff? Or do some countries throw in their
own
: major religion? Or do some places have a program that truly is
: "spiritual" and not "religious"?
:
: Just curious,
:
: Tono

ron,
where are you?

--
rosie

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or
that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
........................................T.Roosevel t





"Ron" <can@the.spam> wrote in message
news:_M%ac.154019$1p.1981918@attbi_s54...
: On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:38:52 GMT, Tono <tono1@verizon.net> wrote:
:
: > I'm wondering what meetings are like in other countries. Do
they all
: > throw in the christian stuff? Or do some countries throw in
their own
: > major religion? Or do some places have a program that truly is
: > "spiritual" and not "religious"?
:
: Not having the resources of the Christian religion near at hand
makes
: recovery from alcoholism well nigh impossible. Knowing this, most
: states with an Islamic foundation make drinking a punishable
offense, as
: they are inherently unequipped to deal with the consequences.
More
: tolerant regions have lost millions to pandemic outbreaks of
alcoholism,
: which is why the consequences of their wayward beliefs are so hard
to
: discern: the philistines are all dead.
:
: --
: AB5DB9CC

On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 22:46:47 GMT, rosie <sorry@toomanymalcontents.com> wrote:

> where are you?

Directly above the center of the earth.

I'm good.

--
AB5DB9CC

--
rosie

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or
that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
........................................T.Roosevel t





"Ron" <can@the.spam> wrote in message
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: On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 22:46:47 GMT, rosie
<sorry@toomanymalcontents.com> wrote:
:
: > where are you?
:
: Directly above the center of the earth.
:
: I'm good.
:
: --
: AB5DB9CC

"Tono" <tono1@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> I'm wondering what meetings are like in other countries. Do they
all
> throw in the christian stuff? Or do some countries throw in their
own
> major religion? Or do some places have a program that truly is
> "spiritual" and not "religious"?
>
> Just curious,
>
> Tono

I live in the UK. At the meetings I attend, we do not speak any
prayer or verse or hear any reading that might be found in a Christian
church service. There follows the format of the two meetings I
regularly attend:

Group 1 (General Meeting)

1. Apologies for absence
2. The Preamble is read out " Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of
men and women who share their experience .............."
3. Members spend a short time thinking about why they are in the
rooms
4. Reading from "As Bill Sees It" (one of the Officer's chooses
someone to chose a reading in advance of the meeting. That person
reads their chosen piece aloud then speaks to it.
5. Floor opened for sharing
6. AA-related notices read out while the donations cup is passed
round
7. Serenity Prayer - everyone joins in.

Group 2 (12 x 12x Group)

1. Apologies for absence
2. The Preamble (as above) is read out
3. Members spend a short time thinking about why they are in the
rooms
4. "I am Responsible when anyone, anywhere reaches out for
help............ " is read out
5. AA-related notices read out
6. Reading from the 12 x 12. It's a read round the room
7. Speaker. He/she is chosen by the Secretary in advance of the
meeting. He/she speaks to the Chapter that was read out.
8. Floor opened for sharing
9. The donations cup is passed round.
10. Serenity Prayer - everyone joins in

JB

Blue Moon wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:38:52 GMT, Tono <tono1@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I'm wondering what meetings are like in other countries. Do they all
>>throw in the christian stuff? Or do some countries throw in their own
>>major religion? Or do some places have a program that truly is
>>"spiritual" and not "religious"?
>
>
> I sobered up in Dorset, England, and attended plenty of AA meetings
> without once hearing the "Lord's Prayer".

And people actually got sober without hearing the "lords prayer"? ;-)

Not sure that could happen
> where I am now, in the US. That's the biggest difference I've
> noticed, although the service structure is a little different.
> Geography seems to play a role in the element of "religion" that goes
> into local meetings.

Thanks,
Tono

Ron wrote:

> On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:38:52 GMT, Tono <tono1@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I'm wondering what meetings are like in other countries. Do they all
>>throw in the christian stuff? Or do some countries throw in their own
>>major religion? Or do some places have a program that truly is
>>"spiritual" and not "religious"?
>
>
> Not having the resources of the Christian religion near at hand makes
> recovery from alcoholism well nigh impossible.

Are you serious Ron? I don't know you so I'm really not sure if that
was a joke or not? I *hope* it was!


Knowing this, most
> states with an Islamic foundation make drinking a punishable offense, as
> they are inherently unequipped to deal with the consequences. More
> tolerant regions have lost millions to pandemic outbreaks of alcoholism,
> which is why the consequences of their wayward beliefs are so hard to
> discern: the philistines are all dead.

Did the Philistines all die of alcoholism? I don't quite get the reference.

Tono