personality traits

i am an alcoholic. could you please tell me some of the personality
traits of alcoholics.
as well as why when i start to drink i cannot stop. i am a fall down
can't even get in my house gutter drunk. but when i am sober i am
perfectly capable. thanks

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:28:43 -0500 (EST), t94proof@webtv.net (94
Proof) wrote:

>i am an alcoholic. could you please tell me some of the personality
>traits of alcoholics.
>as well as why when i start to drink i cannot stop. i am a fall down
>can't even get in my house gutter drunk. but when i am sober i am
>perfectly capable. thanks

The main traits are:
Inability to sustain controlled drinking (drinking to excess)
Mental obsession with booze when sober

Other very common traits are:
Change in psychological profile (personality change) after taking a
couple of drinks
Perfectionism
Selfishness
Egotistical
Low self-esteem

However, the practical manifestations of these traits are so
wide-ranging that they can become seemingly meaningless.

--
Blue Moon

>
>The main traits are:
>Inability to sustain controlled drinking (drinking to excess)
>Mental obsession with booze when sober
>
>Other very common traits are:
>Change in psychological profile (personality change) after taking a
>couple of drinks
>Perfectionism
>Selfishness
>Egotistical
>Low self-esteem

Bam!!! 7 for 7 WOO-HOO!!!!

hey 94 proof, I'd like to know how often you are "sober" and "perfectly
capable"? seems to me, maybe you AREN'T perfectly cabable (of restraint or
control that is) Fogive me if i'm over stepping my bounds here, but I sort of
became convinved that maybe I had a problem, right about the time I started
posing questions about a "friend" of mine--didn't even have the balls to admit
that i was asking the questions about ME!.

take care
John

"Christine" <ctbean3@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >The main traits are:
> >Inability to sustain controlled drinking (drinking to excess)
> >Mental obsession with booze when sober
> >
> >Other very common traits are:
> >Change in psychological profile (personality change) after taking a
> >couple of drinks
> >Perfectionism
> >Selfishness
> >Egotistical
> >Low self-esteem
>
> Bam!!! 7 for 7 WOO-HOO!!!!

Yup, me too. I think you can take all of those and turn them into one like
George Carlin does with the 10 commandments. Worrying about what everyone
thinks of you and that everything is about you.

Kirk S. <wow, five weeks and all is well...>

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 23:50:05 -0000, "Gordieee" <anon@ymous.com> wrote:

>What the fuck are yous cunts on? "Alcohol tee hee" - Aye it's fuckin
>hilarious isn't it pal... an alcoholic 'support' group to some people has
>turned into a banter-match/let's see which twat can be the funniest...

In this thread we were discussing the personality traits of
alcoholics. What were you discussing?

>I hope to christ people don't rely on you people for help.

In this group alone? I would hope not also. However, it can be a
useful resource for information pertaining to alcoholism (including
the never-ending debate about what "alcoholic" actually is).

>If you've got a problem, the best thing to do is actually meet other
>alcoholics at an AA meeting, etc; it's remarkable how much it helps.

Actually, AA meetings alone do not ensure sobriety from alcohol. Even
AA says as much, even if a proportion of its members think
differently.

>I'm not an alcoholic, but my dad was/is, and unfortunately we don't see each
>other anymore owing to my anger over what he done as I grew up - alcoholics
>always regret not trying harder sooner.

Always?

You might like to check out Al-anon or ACOA.

--
Blue Moon

What the fuck are yous cunts on? "Alcohol tee hee" - Aye it's fuckin
hilarious isn't it pal... an alcoholic 'support' group to some people has
turned into a banter-match/let's see which twat can be the funniest...

I hope to christ people don't rely on you people for help.

If you've got a problem, the best thing to do is actually meet other
alcoholics at an AA meeting, etc; it's remarkable how much it helps.

I'm not an alcoholic, but my dad was/is, and unfortunately we don't see each
other anymore owing to my anger over what he done as I grew up - alcoholics
always regret not trying harder sooner.

http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org/ has details of that particular
organisation, and there's always support numbers and groups in your area.

I'm in UK, but if you need a number etc for your area - go to
http://www.google.com

And the best idea would be to search for 'alcoholic support' then your area
code, as that works believe it or not! Displays numbers for your area, or
try "1800 alcoholics support", etc, in google, and you've made a start!



"Christine" <ctbean3@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >> Bam!!! 7 for 7 WOO-HOO!!!!

Did the 'AA' not have an etc after it? Suggesting i wasn't limiting what i
said to the one organisation/method.

One person gave a constructive attempt in their reply to this thread; and if
you look at the other threads i think you'll find they're full of rambling,
pathethic arguments. It's ashame, I was expecting/hoping for a lot of
interesting threads from people trying to develop themselves; instead, what
do you find when you read the posts of this newsgroup? Mainly bullshit.
Doesn't that bother you at all? Doesn't the bickering, etc, coupled with the
mainly insincere attitude of the newsgroup upset anyone, to a point?

I'm thanfully not an alcoholic and have no plan in following in my father's
footsteps; but if i was one, i'd come here, and be extremely disappointed.

This isn't (just) aimed at yourself, as I don't know if you post tosh in
other posts here; but it's about helping each other, and instead, a
newsgroup that has such good potential, is on the whole, full of nonsense.

Sadenning


"Blue Moon" <mfoco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 23:50:05 -0000, "Gordieee" <anon@ymous.com> wrote:
> deleted the baws

94 Proof, apologies for my rant, but i think it's shite that you don't get a
decent response.

Personality traits? Well, some people believe an 'addictive personality'
exists in alcoholics, the reliance on things in life to keep them happy. In
some ways, we all live that way - but an alcoholic is someone who is
addicted to alcohol, this may mean that when you start drinking, you can't
stop.

If you went out, for talking-sakes, once a month, and got drunk and couldn't
get into your house. You're just drunk. If you think about alcohol
maybe...or you find yourself getting drunk a lot - few times a week, maybe
even just every saturday, for instance, you get used to it, and if you have
problems in life, you subconscioussly, and sometimes consciouslly, think
that alcohol 'solves' the problems - as when you're drunk, you seem happy.

But it doesn't last.

Please try get help with your problem - you need it to get on with your life
in the best possible manner!

go to http://www.google.com and search for information and help material,
then get in contact. If you feel it's better just to go talk to someone, go
to a friend and explain the problem, let them know if they can't handle it,
you need them and other people to help you - as you can't live your life
that way, and really enjoy it.

Is there any help you need with finding help?

"94 Proof" <t94proof@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27302-4039493B-377@storefull-3135.bay.webtv.net...
> i am an alcoholic. could you please tell me some of the personality
> traits of alcoholics.
> as well as why when i start to drink i cannot stop. i am a fall down
> can't even get in my house gutter drunk. but when i am sober i am
> perfectly capable. thanks

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 00:08:57 -0000, "Gordieee" <anon@ymous.com> wrote:

>I'm thanfully not an alcoholic and have no plan in following in my father's
>footsteps

Then why are you here?

>This isn't (just) aimed at yourself,

You can aim your fatuous comments wherever you like. Since your
arrival I've not seen you contribute anything but malice. I suggest
you either start over, or take your misplaced trantrums elsewhere.

--
Blue Moon