....eighteen years ago. I see too many instances where a newcomer comes
into this group looking for help and most of the time the thread
degenerates into snide remarks, back-biting, fighting and bickering
like a bunch of fucking little kids with higher than average book
learnin'. It's a sad sight to see.

Even those of you who claim a lot of sobriety tend to look less than
attractive with your endless battles with those you have disdain for.
And, shit, here I am doin' the same thing.

Okay, talk amongst yourselves, because I won't be here to read it. I
bet I can find someplace else to reinforce my sobriety. It's
unfortunate that it can't be done here. Or maybe I just caught you at
a bad time -- like the last month or so?

Good luck,

Grump
www.GrumpsPlace.com/forums/index.php

"catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> "Grumpy Oldman" <ImAWreck@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:24osfvs4c7ta8c4is7jmrker5jhh946ma1@4ax.com...
> > ...eighteen years ago. I see too many instances where a newcomer comes
> > into this group looking for help and most of the time the thread
> > degenerates into snide remarks, back-biting, fighting and bickering
> > like a bunch of fucking little kids with higher than average book
> > learnin'. It's a sad sight to see.
> >
> > Even those of you who claim a lot of sobriety tend to look less than
> > attractive with your endless battles with those you have disdain for.
> > And, shit, here I am doin' the same thing.
> >
> > Okay, talk amongst yourselves, because I won't be here to read it. I
> > bet I can find someplace else to reinforce my sobriety. It's
> > unfortunate that it can't be done here. Or maybe I just caught you at
> > a bad time -- like the last month or so?
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Grump
> > www.GrumpsPlace.com/forums/index.php
>
> Hi Grump,
>
> I'm sorry that you're not going to stick around. With 18 years of
sobriety under your belt, you
> could have been inspiration and given invaluable advice to all of us
starting out. You might also
> have found that sound advice can be found here once you know where to
look.
>
> If you are looking for a group that better suits your needs, I hope you
will quickly find it.
> Congratulations on achieving 18 years of sobriety. LOL. I've just
realised something. In this
> country (the UK), 18 is the age at which it becomes lawful to buy and
consume alcohol. What a
> co-incidence :^))
>
> JB
>
>

LOL he's "signed up" next door at alt.recovery.aa, and already presenting
his "wreckage" there, if you really want to follow the saga;-)

Bob

"Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:bdmc0v$7mn$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > "Grumpy Oldman" <ImAWreck@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:24osfvs4c7ta8c4is7jmrker5jhh946ma1@4ax.com...

snip> > >
> > If you are looking for a group that better suits your needs, I hope you
> will quickly find it.
> > Congratulations on achieving 18 years of sobriety. LOL. I've just
> realised something. In this
> > country (the UK), 18 is the age at which it becomes lawful to buy and
> consume alcohol. What a
> > co-incidence :^))
> >
> > JB
> >
> >
>
> LOL he's "signed up" next door at alt.recovery.aa, and already presenting
> his "wreckage" there, if you really want to follow the saga;-)
>
> Bob
>
Found it. Thanks Bob. Seeing that you and Rosie are also members, I reckon that that group must
be just as lively and entertaining as this one :^))

Cheers

JB

"Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:bdmdmg$nag$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:bdmcig$u5l9a$1@ID-49289.news.dfncis.de...
> > >
> > > "catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > > news:bdmc0v$7mn$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > > "Grumpy Oldman" <ImAWreck@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:24osfvs4c7ta8c4is7jmrker5jhh946ma1@4ax.com...
> >
> > snip> > >
> > > > If you are looking for a group that better suits your needs, I hope
> you
> > > will quickly find it.
> > > > Congratulations on achieving 18 years of sobriety. LOL. I've just
> > > realised something. In this
> > > > country (the UK), 18 is the age at which it becomes lawful to buy and
> > > consume alcohol. What a
> > > > co-incidence :^))
> > > >
> > > > JB
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > LOL he's "signed up" next door at alt.recovery.aa, and already
> presenting
> > > his "wreckage" there, if you really want to follow the saga;-)
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > Found it. Thanks Bob. Seeing that you and Rosie are also members, I
> reckon that that group must
> > be just as lively and entertaining as this one :^))
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > JB
> >
> >
>
> Guess I should point out that "membership" there is as arguable as it is
> here, with two exceptions. There are two "sobriety" registers, on one of
> which Grumpy has "registered."
>
> They also have/had "the hive" which was a private email group, by invitation
> only, when, in a huff, I left it ;-)
>
> "The hive" was set up with, imo, the best of intentions, when someone/s,
> apparently overdosing on righteousness, hacked news servers; and repeatedly
> cancelled the vast majority of posts.
>
> "Hive" of information tonight/this morning, aren't I!
>
> Bob;-)
>
Hi Bob,

I didn't realise that such a difference existed. When I use the term "member" of an NG, it is
reference to someone who has "subscribed" to it. It just goes to show how easily simple words can
be misinterpreted.

JB

BTW, I'd say that today, you have a "mind of information" :^))

"catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:bdmh18$6lh$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> Hi Bob,
>
> I didn't realise that such a difference existed. When I use the term
"member" of an NG, it is
> reference to someone who has "subscribed" to it. It just goes to show how
easily simple words can
> be misinterpreted.
>
> JB
>
> BTW, I'd say that today, you have a "mind of information" :^))
>

Oh, my mind may be too small, with all that information overflowing;-)
However it seems uncle Al Zeimers is catching most of the overflow!

Bob

"catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:bdmkf9$u89qp$1@ID-49289.news.dfncis.de...
> >
> > "catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > news:bdmh18$6lh$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> > > Hi Bob,
> > >
> > > I didn't realise that such a difference existed. When I use the term
> > "member" of an NG, it is
> > > reference to someone who has "subscribed" to it. It just goes to show
how
> > easily simple words can
> > > be misinterpreted.
> > >
> > > JB
> > >
> > > BTW, I'd say that today, you have a "mind of information" :^))
> > >
> >
> > Oh, my mind may be too small, with all that information overflowing;-)
> > However it seems uncle Al Zeimers is catching most of the overflow!
> >
> > Bob
> >
> LOL. Love your sharp wit :^))
>
> JB
>
My father used to say I was that sharp I kept cutting myself. Do you think
he was trying to tell me something?

Bob

"Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:bdmh18$6lh$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > I didn't realise that such a difference existed. When I use the term
> "member" of an NG, it is
> > reference to someone who has "subscribed" to it. It just goes to show how
> easily simple words can
> > be misinterpreted.
> >
> > JB
> >
> > BTW, I'd say that today, you have a "mind of information" :^))
> >
>
> Oh, my mind may be too small, with all that information overflowing;-)
> However it seems uncle Al Zeimers is catching most of the overflow!
>
> Bob
>
LOL. Love your sharp wit :^))

JB

"catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:bdmlug$uca6p$1@ID-49289.news.dfncis.de...
> >
> > "catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > news:bdmle0$jsr$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> > > news:bdmkf9$u89qp$1@ID-49289.news.dfncis.de...
> > > >
> > > > "catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:bdmh18$6lh$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > > > "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> <snip>
> > > Oh, my mind may be too small, with all that information
overflowing;-)
> > > > However it seems uncle Al Zeimers is catching most of the overflow!
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > LOL. Love your sharp wit :^))
> > >
> > > JB
> > >
> > My father used to say I was that sharp I kept cutting myself. Do you
think
> > he was trying to tell me something?
> >
> > Bob
> >
> I reckon he was and if I was he I would have gone one step further and
told you that it might also
> sometimes cut others :^))
>

Oh yeah, I heard something about that. Cut them down to size;-)

Bob

congrats on your eighteen years gramps and i hope you will reconsider and stick around.
sharing your experience, strength and hope is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO IMPORTANT for all of us!

--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie

bitterness imprisons life; love releases it.
...................... harry emerson fosdick



"Grumpy Oldman" <ImAWreck@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:24osfvs4c7ta8c4is7jmrker5jhh946ma1@4ax.com...
> ...eighteen years ago. I see too many instances where a newcomer comes
> into this group looking for help and most of the time the thread
> degenerates into snide remarks, back-biting, fighting and bickering
> like a bunch of fucking little kids with higher than average book
> learnin'. It's a sad sight to see.
>
> Even those of you who claim a lot of sobriety tend to look less than
> attractive with your endless battles with those you have disdain for.
> And, shit, here I am doin' the same thing.
>
> Okay, talk amongst yourselves, because I won't be here to read it. I
> bet I can find someplace else to reinforce my sobriety. It's
> unfortunate that it can't be done here. Or maybe I just caught you at
> a bad time -- like the last month or so?
>
> Good luck,
>
> Grump
> www.GrumpsPlace.com/forums/index.php

"Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:bdmmr1$bro$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >
> > "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:bdmlug$uca6p$1@ID-49289.news.dfncis.de...
> > >
> > > "catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > > news:bdmle0$jsr$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > > "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> > > > news:bdmkf9$u89qp$1@ID-49289.news.dfncis.de...
> > > > >
> > > > > "catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:bdmh18$6lh$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > > > > "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> > <snip>
> > > >
> > > My father used to say I was that sharp I kept cutting myself. Do you
> think
> > > he was trying to tell me something?
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > I reckon he was and if I was he I would have gone one step further and
> told you that it might also
> > sometimes cut others :^))
> >
>
> Oh yeah, I heard something about that. Cut them down to size;-)
>
> Bob
>
Not funny Bob. I think that what you (and others) sometimes say is unnecessarily hurtful and
unhelpful.. If you (and others) feel at ease saying what you say, that's OK. I'm not here to try
to change anyone's behaviour except in response to a request for help to give up drinking. Some
things are impossible to achieve :^))

JB