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Old 06-23-2003, 06:17 PM
rosie readandpost
 
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Re: With the help of friends, it can be done

>
> You'll be pleased to know that I don't consider myself to be a victim of my husband's >decisions.



actually JB, i congratulate you again, on your two weeks, but must warn you that in my experience, having that stuff
(wine) around the house in those early months, is a risk that is not necessary!

sorry if my use of the word "victim" upset you!
--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie

Do not meditate - be!
Do not think that you are - be!
Don't think about being - you are!
..................................Sri Ramana Maharshi






"catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:bd7svl$jh9$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> "rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:VkCJa.105322$Xl.1959491@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > > My husband has offered several times this week to give up drinking. He knows that I would

> greatly
> > > appreciate it if he did. As yet, his offer remains just an offer :^(
> > >
> > > JB
> > >

> >
> >
> > JB,
> > can you explain to your husband that his drinking IS EFFECTING you and his stopping would be

> wonderful? not dropping the
> > subject, and becoming a victim of his decisions.
> > are you the person who buys the alcohol for the household?
> >

> <snip>
>
> Dear Rosie,
>
> You'll be pleased to know that I don't consider myself to be a victim of my husband's decisions. If
> I did, I would not now be celebrating two weeks of sobriety..
>
> Hope all continues to go well for you
>
> JB
>
>
>



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  #2  
Old 06-23-2003, 06:25 PM
catsruleok
 
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Re: With the help of friends, it can be done

"rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:VkCJa.105322$Xl.1959491@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> > My husband has offered several times this week to give up drinking. He knows that I would

greatly
> > appreciate it if he did. As yet, his offer remains just an offer :^(
> >
> > JB
> >

>
>
> JB,
> can you explain to your husband that his drinking IS EFFECTING you and his stopping would be

wonderful? not dropping the
> subject, and becoming a victim of his decisions.
> are you the person who buys the alcohol for the household?
>

<snip>

Dear Rosie,

You'll be pleased to know that I don't consider myself to be a victim of my husband's decisions. If
I did, I would not now be celebrating two weeks of sobriety..

Hope all continues to go well for you

JB



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Old 06-23-2003, 07:15 PM
catsruleok
 
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Re: With the help of friends, it can be done

"rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news0LJa.106693$Xl.1986077@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > You'll be pleased to know that I don't consider myself to be a victim of my husband's

>decisions.
>
>
> actually JB, i congratulate you again, on your two weeks, but must warn you that in my experience,

having that stuff
> (wine) around the house in those early months, is a risk that is not necessary!
>
> sorry if my use of the word "victim" upset you!
> --
> read and post daily, it works!
> rosie
>
> Do not meditate - be!
> Do not think that you are - be!
> Don't think about being - you are!
> .................................Sri Ramana Maharshi


Dear Rosie,

There's no need to apologise as I'm not at all upset by anything you said.

I agree with your point about the risk of having alcohol in the house and would advise any
recovering alcoholic to not do so if they can help it. I can't avoid it because if my husband
wants it and if he doesn't get it, my life at this time could be much more difficult.

JB



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Old 06-23-2003, 09:23 PM
rosie readandpost
 
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Re: With the help of friends, it can be done


I can't avoid it because if my husband
> wants it and if he doesn't get it, my life at this time could be much more difficult.
>
> JB
>
>
>

even though he has offered to stop, many times?


  #5  
Old 06-23-2003, 09:32 PM
Robert McGregor
 
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Re: With the help of friends, it can be done


"rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:SHNJa.143782$jT4.2584525@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> I can't avoid it because if my husband
> > wants it and if he doesn't get it, my life at this time could be much

more difficult.
> >
> > JB
> >
> >
> >

> even though he has offered to stop, many times?
>
>


http://anonpress.org/bb/Page_101.htm
"Our experience shows that this is not necessarily so.

We meet these conditions every day. An alcoholic who cannot meet them, still
has an alcoholic mind; there is something the matter with his spiritual
status. His only chance for sobriety would be some place like the Greenland
Ice Cap, and even there an Eskimo might turn up with a bottle of scotch and
ruin everything! Ask any woman who has sent her husband to distant places on
the theory he would escape the alcohol problem.

In our belief any scheme of combating alcoholism which proposes to shield
the sick man from temptation is doomed to failure. If the alcoholic tries to
shield himself he may succeed for a time, but he usually winds up with a
bigger explosion than ever. We have tried these methods. These attempts to
do the impossible have always failed."



  #6  
Old 06-24-2003, 09:07 AM
rosie readandpost
 
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Re: With the help of friends, it can be done



"debs" <debs172@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:bd90e5$deu$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> I have spent the whole of my sober time with alcohol in the house. I just
> decided that it wasn't for me anymore.



in my alcoholism, i decided alot of things, but didn't start recovery until i learned to follow suggestions, and stop
making my own decisions for awhile.
for me, that meant removing all alcohol from the house for a time.
i did the same thing when i quit smoking.
all cigs, butts, lighters and ashtrays were removed.

does that make me weak?
don't know, don't care.
i am a smoke free recovering alcoholic, and i went to any lengths to be so!

that is my experience, and it is not meant to be a comment on anyone else's road to recovery!

rosie


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Old 06-24-2003, 10:40 AM
catsruleok
 
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Re: With the help of friends, it can be done

"rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "debs" <debs172@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:bd90e5$deu$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > I have spent the whole of my sober time with alcohol in the house. I just
> > decided that it wasn't for me anymore.

>
>
> in my alcoholism, i decided alot of things, but didn't start recovery until i learned to follow

suggestions, and stop
> making my own decisions for awhile.
> for me, that meant removing all alcohol from the house for a time.
> i did the same thing when i quit smoking.
> all cigs, butts, lighters and ashtrays were removed.
>
> does that make me weak?
> don't know, don't care.
> i am a smoke free recovering alcoholic, and i went to any lengths to be so!
>
> that is my experience, and it is not meant to be a comment on anyone else's road to recovery!
>
> rosie
>

Dear Rosie,

I'm glad you found it possible to remove all that tempted you from your house. If you were livng
alone at the time, that would have been an easier thing for you to do than if you were sharing your
home with someone who likes a drink and who does not want to give it up. Depending on their
circumstances, an alcohlic who wants to become a recovering alcoholic will use whatever means they
have available to acheive their goal. However they chose to achieve it, they don't deserve
criticism. This adds to their stress. Instead, they deserve praise.

JB


made things eadsy.owuldI that s. empationsbile to removeadear Ri>


  #8  
Old 06-24-2003, 10:41 AM
Moonraker
 
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Re: With the help of friends, it can be done


"catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:bd9mj8$r2o$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> PS: Forgot to say Rosie that even when you are not being critical of

someone else's behaviour,
> sometimes the way you write, gives the impression that you are being.
>
> JB
>
>
>

Naaah. Rosie, despite putting on the sugary-sweet front, can't help
looking down her nose at the rest of the world, it just comes naturally to
her.

Nobody is as sober as she is, as depression-free as she is, as smoke-free as
she is, as medically astute as she is, as rich and well-married as she is,
nor as smart as she is.

I mean, who WOULDN'T wanna be her?



  #9  
Old 06-24-2003, 10:48 AM
catsruleok
 
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Re: With the help of friends, it can be done

PS: Forgot to say Rosie that even when you are not being critical of someone else's behaviour,
sometimes the way you write, gives the impression that you are being.

JB



  #10  
Old 06-24-2003, 11:01 AM
rosie readandpost
 
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Re: With the help of friends, it can be done

JB,
everyone is free to post here or email me, if there is ANY QUESTION, about my posts!
the only folks that i have been critical of, AND HIGHLY CRITICAL,(as are alot of others) are those who, imo, can do
great harm in here.

--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie



"catsruleok" <catsruleok@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:bd9mj8$r2o$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> PS: Forgot to say Rosie that even when you are not being critical of someone else's behaviour,
> sometimes the way you write, gives the impression that you are being.
>
> JB
>
>
>



 


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