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Old 06-27-2003, 12:57 AM
 
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Re: Is A.A. a religious society?




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Old 06-27-2003, 01:12 AM
Cartman
 
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Re: Is A.A. a religious society?

No, AA is a fellowship of people seeking recovery from alcoholism. While
some choose to characterize their Higher Power using more traditional
religious beliefs, there is NO requirement to practice religion or subscribe
to any religious belief systems. Roughly paraphrased, "the only requirement
for membership in AA is a desire to stop drinking".

- Cartman

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Old 06-27-2003, 04:16 PM
Robert McGregor
 
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Re: Is A.A. a religious society?


"Cartman" <omar_adebisi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> No, AA is a fellowship of people seeking recovery from alcoholism. While
> some choose to characterize their Higher Power using more traditional
> religious beliefs, there is NO requirement to practice religion or

subscribe
> to any religious belief systems. Roughly paraphrased, "the only

requirement
> for membership in AA is a desire to stop drinking".
>
> - Cartman
>

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=religion
re·li·gion Pronunciation Key (r-ljn) n. Belief in and reverence for a
supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the
universe.

Alcoholics Anonymous.
http://www.aa.org/default/en_about_a...d=20&pageid=24 For our
group purpose there is but one ultimate authority a loving God as He may
express Himself in our group conscience.



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Old 06-27-2003, 06:08 PM
Bobby L.
 
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Re: Is A.A. a religious society?

it would probably be more accurately described as groups of people seeking a
more spiritual existence.


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Old 06-27-2003, 09:13 PM
Blue Moon
 
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Re: Is A.A. a religious society?

You need to define "religious" before that question can be answered.

Like any organisation that contains human beings, AA has its flavour
of religious nuts amongst the rabble. But, unlike any other religion
I've encountered, AA also has atheists and agnostics who are quite
successfully working the AA program.

--
Blue Moon
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Old 06-27-2003, 10:14 PM
Cartman
 
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Re: Is A.A. a religious society?

2. Came to believe that a >>>>>>Power<<<<<<<<< greater than ourselves
could restore us to sanity.

3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God
>>>>> as we understood Him<<<<<<.


Not exactly the equivalent of the Crusades.....Arguably, the textbook
definition you provided describes some aspects of A.A. However, this is more
a semantic argument as I initially took the question "Is A.A. a religious
society" to mean "What, if any, religious denomination does A.A. subscribe
to".


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=misanthrope

misanthrope

n : someone who dislikes people in general


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Old 06-28-2003, 03:00 AM
Robert McGregor
 
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Re: Is A.A. a religious society?


"Cartman" <omar_adebisi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> 2. Came to believe that a >>>>>>Power<<<<<<<<< greater than ourselves
> could restore us to sanity.
>
> 3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of

God
> >>>>> as we understood Him<<<<<<.

>
> Not exactly the equivalent of the Crusades.....Arguably, the textbook
> definition you provided describes some aspects of A.A. However, this is

more
> a semantic argument as I initially took the question "Is A.A. a religious
> society" to mean "What, if any, religious denomination does A.A. subscribe
> to".
>
>
> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=misanthrope
>
> misanthrope
>
> n : someone who dislikes people in general
>
>




What other religious denomination, apart from AA, subscribes to other
religious denominations? Has it not occurred to you that for many AAers, AA
is a religion in it's own right, while for many other AAers, it's not a
religion at all?

re·li·gion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljn)
n.

Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as
creator and governor of the universe.
A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

Does your quote indicate you are a misanthrope attempting to limit Usenet
discussion to your choice of semantics?

Bob


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Old 06-28-2003, 11:29 AM
Kathy
 
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Re: Is A.A. a religious society?

On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 17:00:09 +1000, "Robert McGregor"
<robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>
>"Cartman" <omar_adebisi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:e96cnV5YgutKZWGjXTWc-w@speakeasy.net...
>> 2. Came to believe that a >>>>>>Power<<<<<<<<< greater than ourselves
>> could restore us to sanity.
>>
>> 3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of

>God
>> >>>>> as we understood Him<<<<<<.

>>
>> Not exactly the equivalent of the Crusades.....Arguably, the textbook
>> definition you provided describes some aspects of A.A. However, this is

>more
>> a semantic argument as I initially took the question "Is A.A. a religious
>> society" to mean "What, if any, religious denomination does A.A. subscribe
>> to".
>>
>>
>> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=misanthrope
>>
>> misanthrope
>>
>> n : someone who dislikes people in general
>>
>>

>
>
>
>What other religious denomination, apart from AA, subscribes to other
>religious denominations? Has it not occurred to you that for many AAers, AA
>is a religion in it's own right, while for many other AAers, it's not a
>religion at all?
>
>re·li·gion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljn)
>n.
>
>Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as
>creator and governor of the universe.
>A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
>
>Does your quote indicate you are a misanthrope attempting to limit Usenet
>discussion to your choice of semantics?
>
>Bob
>

And the folks who like to classify it as a religion also tend to
classify AA as a cult too.

Kathy G.

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Old 06-28-2003, 02:14 PM
Mias
 
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Re: Is A.A. a religious society?

Dear God
It is my humble opinion that the people in AA is overall of such faith and
fiber that they will allow people to become sober irrespective of their
religious beliefs or non-beliefs and then to follow their own path. A rule
of thumb to me is 'Do not preach religion or God to people. If others can
not see the gifts and rewards of your faith in your daily living and you as
a person it is just not there.' Suppose my answer to you would be to not ask
questions about religion but rather live it out.
Kind regards
Mias
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Old 06-28-2003, 02:21 PM
Cartman
 
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Re: Is A.A. a religious society?

No Robert. Simply a jest at you. Seems you are extremely aggressive and
defensive with everyone (including those who agree with you).

- Cartman


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>
> "Cartman" <omar_adebisi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e96cnV5YgutKZWGjXTWc-w@speakeasy.net...
> > 2. Came to believe that a >>>>>>Power<<<<<<<<< greater than ourselves
> > could restore us to sanity.
> >
> > 3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of

> God
> > >>>>> as we understood Him<<<<<<.

> >
> > Not exactly the equivalent of the Crusades.....Arguably, the textbook
> > definition you provided describes some aspects of A.A. However, this is

> more
> > a semantic argument as I initially took the question "Is A.A. a

religious
> > society" to mean "What, if any, religious denomination does A.A.

subscribe
> > to".
> >
> >
> > http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=misanthrope
> >
> > misanthrope
> >
> > n : someone who dislikes people in general
> >
> >

>
>
>
> What other religious denomination, apart from AA, subscribes to other
> religious denominations? Has it not occurred to you that for many AAers,

AA
> is a religion in it's own right, while for many other AAers, it's not a
> religion at all?
>
> re·li·gion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljn)
> n.
>
> Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as
> creator and governor of the universe.
> A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and

worship.
>
> Does your quote indicate you are a misanthrope attempting to limit Usenet
> discussion to your choice of semantics?
>
> Bob
>
>



 


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