A lesson for me here
http://www.columbia.edu/~gm84/gibran22.html

And one of the elders of the city said, "Speak to us of Good and Evil."

And he answered:

Of the good in you I can speak, but not of the evil.

For what is evil but good tortured by its own hunger and thirst?

Verily when good is hungry it seeks food even in dark caves, and when it
thirsts, it drinks even of dead waters.

You are good when you are one with yourself.

Yet when you are not one with yourself you are not evil.

For a divided house is not a den of thieves; it is only a divided house.

And a ship without rudder may wander aimlessly among perilous isles yet sink
not to the bottom.

You are good when you strive to give of yourself.

Yet you are not evil when you seek gain for yourself.

For when you strive for gain you are but a root that clings to the earth and
sucks at her breast.

Surely the fruit cannot say to the root, "Be like me, ripe and full and ever
giving of your abundance."

For to the fruit giving is a need, as receiving is a need to the root.

You are good when you are fully awake in your speech,

Yet you are not evil when you sleep while your tongue staggers without
purpose.

And even stumbling speech may strengthen a weak tongue.

You are good when you walk to your goal firmly and with bold steps.

Yet you are not evil when you go thither limping.

Even those who limp go not backward.

But you who are strong and swift, see that you do not limp before the lame,
deeming it kindness.

You are good in countless ways, and you are not evil when you are not good,

You are only loitering and sluggard.

Pity that the stags cannot teach swiftness to the turtles.

In your longing for your giant self lies your goodness: and that longing is
in all of you.

But in some of you that longing is a torrent rushing with might to the sea,
carrying the secrets of the hillsides and the songs of the forest.

And in others it is a flat stream that loses itself in angles and bends and
lingers before it reaches the shore.

But let not him who longs much say to him who longs little, "Wherefore are
you slow and halting?"

For the truly good ask not the naked, "Where is your garment?" nor the
houseless, "What has befallen your house?"

Bob

thanks for posting that robert....................a reminder of the
dangers of BLACK/WHITE thinking!

--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie

the bumper sticker... is secular America's Book of Proverbs.
..................................... john shea




"Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> A lesson for me here
> http://www.columbia.edu/~gm84/gibran22.html
>
> And one of the elders of the city said, "Speak to us of Good and
Evil."
>
> And he answered:
>
> Of the good in you I can speak, but not of the evil.
>
> For what is evil but good tortured by its own hunger and thirst?
>
> Verily when good is hungry it seeks food even in dark caves, and when
it
> thirsts, it drinks even of dead waters.
>
> You are good when you are one with yourself.
>
> Yet when you are not one with yourself you are not evil.
>
> For a divided house is not a den of thieves; it is only a divided
house.
>
> And a ship without rudder may wander aimlessly among perilous isles
yet sink
> not to the bottom.
>
> You are good when you strive to give of yourself.
>
> Yet you are not evil when you seek gain for yourself.
>
> For when you strive for gain you are but a root that clings to the
earth and
> sucks at her breast.
>
> Surely the fruit cannot say to the root, "Be like me, ripe and full
and ever
> giving of your abundance."
>
> For to the fruit giving is a need, as receiving is a need to the root.
>
> You are good when you are fully awake in your speech,
>
> Yet you are not evil when you sleep while your tongue staggers without
> purpose.
>
> And even stumbling speech may strengthen a weak tongue.
>
> You are good when you walk to your goal firmly and with bold steps.
>
> Yet you are not evil when you go thither limping.
>
> Even those who limp go not backward.
>
> But you who are strong and swift, see that you do not limp before the
lame,
> deeming it kindness.
>
> You are good in countless ways, and you are not evil when you are not
good,
>
> You are only loitering and sluggard.
>
> Pity that the stags cannot teach swiftness to the turtles.
>
> In your longing for your giant self lies your goodness: and that
longing is
> in all of you.
>
> But in some of you that longing is a torrent rushing with might to the
sea,
> carrying the secrets of the hillsides and the songs of the forest.
>
> And in others it is a flat stream that loses itself in angles and
bends and
> lingers before it reaches the shore.
>
> But let not him who longs much say to him who longs little, "Wherefore
are
> you slow and halting?"
>
> For the truly good ask not the naked, "Where is your garment?" nor the
> houseless, "What has befallen your house?"
>
> Bob
>
>

"rosie read and post" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> thanks for posting that robert....................a reminder of the
> dangers of BLACK/WHITE thinking!
>
What do you suppose would be the danger in black./white thinking in, oh, say
maybe "Thou shall not kill"? Or, "Thou shall not steal"? Or "bear false
witness"? You know, some of those?

Seems pretty cut and dried to me.

Moonraker wrote:

> "rosie read and post" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:SsMrb.16483$Vu6.13288@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
>>thanks for posting that robert....................a reminder of the
>>dangers of BLACK/WHITE thinking!
>>
>
> What do you suppose would be the danger in black./white thinking in, oh, say
> maybe "Thou shall not kill"? Or, "Thou shall not steal"? Or "bear false
> witness"? You know, some of those?
>
> Seems pretty cut and dried to me.

You mean you think killing's wrong in every situation? Who would've
guessed, I had you categorized as someone strongly in favour of the US
military doing it's thing. But I agree, "Thou shall not kill" doesn't
leave room for interpretations.

Kai

oh kai..........................now don't you go NITPICKING at our
moonie!


--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie

it ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to.
............................b.clinton






> Moonraker wrote:
> > > What do you suppose would be the danger in black./white thinking
in, oh, say
> > maybe "Thou shall not kill"? Or, "Thou shall not steal"? Or "bear
false
> > witness"? You know, some of those?
> >
> > Seems pretty cut and dried to me.
>






> You mean you think killing's wrong in every situation? Who would've
> guessed, I had you categorized as someone strongly in favour of the US
> military doing it's thing. But I agree, "Thou shall not kill" doesn't
> leave room for interpretations.
>
> Kai
>

"rosie read and post" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> oh kai..........................now don't you go NITPICKING at our
> moonie!
>

LOL. Has anyone ever told you that your posts remind them of the monontous noise emitted by a
record that has a gramophone needle stuck in one of its grooves :^))

JB

unless your purpose is to continue to bitch and moan about me, i suggest
you do the following:

MESSAGE
BLOCK SENDER
YES

if you choose not to, at least do us all a favor and stop whining!

--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie

it ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to.
............................b.clinton





"JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
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>
> "rosie read and post" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:RqRrb.18366$Vu6.7534@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > oh kai..........................now don't you go NITPICKING at our
> > moonie!
> >
>
> LOL. Has anyone ever told you that your posts remind them of the
monontous noise emitted by a
> record that has a gramophone needle stuck in one of its grooves :^))
>
> JB
>
>

"JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
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>
> "rosie read and post" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:RqRrb.18366$Vu6.7534@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > oh kai..........................now don't you go NITPICKING at our
> > moonie!
> >
>
> LOL. Has anyone ever told you that your posts remind them of the
monontous noise emitted by a
> record that has a gramophone needle stuck in one of its grooves :^))
>
> JB
>
>

Why, JB...how curious that you should ask the Milwaukee Mouth such a
question. I was killing some time this afternoon between projects.


A bit of Google and Deja time has revealed that it's not just the good old
boys on a.r.a.a that have wearied of RRAP and her shit. She's been involved
in this same old disruptive argumentative mode on many other groups. A
number of people have threatened to and/or reported her to her ISP for her
abuse, which would be why she now has adopted Yahoo as a email address,
apparently having lost her previous ISP service as a result of these
complaints. Should she learn both your correct email address and find that
you have killfiled her, she likely will send you a cc of her post to the
group, despite your demands that she stop. There are instances of this
abusive, argumentative behavior going back to 1997. People have been
calling her a liar and a fraud and a sick demented sack long before she ever
showed her face in this newsgroup.

Here is an exerpt from one post: (from a diet newsgroup)

"Would you find it good form if I, as an immunologist, said "Hey Rosie,
why are you so stupid? AIDS dementia?", regardless of whether you're
infected with HIV or not? This is PRECISELY what you did to Claudia,
meanwhile bragging about your amazing prowess as a substance abuse
counselor.

I don't believe for a SECOND that you are a SUCCESSFUL counselor, whether
you are a counselor or not. If I'm right about you're just a bored troll
who's got nothing better to do than post one-liners to ASD, then you're
a liar. If I'm wrong and you're really a counselor then YOU'RE WORSE
THAN A LIAR. You're a sadistic fuck, whose "training" and "experience"
should make it obvious that throwing wild accusations or jokes about
drinking in the afternoon is inappropriate because SUBSTANCE ABUSE IS
NOT A JOKE OR AN APPROPRIATE AVENUE TO PICK AS AN INSULT.

As for justifying your accusations with defenses such as Claudia's
writing as if she slurs her words, YOU ARE A FINE ONE TO TALK.
Claudia can at least write full sentences and know when using
caps is appropriate. You, on the other hand, write like a second
grader.

Yeah, I KNOW you can't justify your actions. I fully expect the
usual "coherent", non "slurring" response you give when you can't come
up with a good argument back. Something like:

"right LOL"

Rosie, you already know I think you're an trolling idiot. I have to
admit, however, that I never suspected you to be the perverted,
sick fuck that you've proven yourself to be in the last 24 hours.
I have nothing but PITY for anyone with a substance abuse problem
who'd pay you their hard-earned cash so you can torture and ridicule
them with your "professional" counseling."


Game, Set, Match.

ROTFLMAO!
if you HAD done your homework properly moonie, you would have
continued to investigate and found out that the folks who wrote those
emails, were the trolls..........................they have had WEBSITES
shut down as a result of THEIR trolling behavior, not mine.

the more you post about me, the most obvious it is, that you are not,
and probably never have been sober.
your continued obsession with me is truly pathetic!

(((((((((((((((((((((((((moonie))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))

"rosie read and post" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> ROTFLMAO!
> if you HAD done your homework properly moonie, you would have
> continued to investigate and found out that the folks who wrote those
> emails, were the trolls..........................they have had WEBSITES
> shut down as a result of THEIR trolling behavior, not mine.
>
> the more you post about me, the most obvious it is, that you are not,
> and probably never have been sober.
> your continued obsession with me is truly pathetic!
>
> (((((((((((((((((((((((((moonie))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))

yes, it is always them isn't it.

even here, it is them not you.

so sad really.


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