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  #1  
Old 06-25-2003, 08:51 AM
green_wonder
 
Posts: n/a
It's happening again

Man, after being layed off for several months, I'm back on the golf course
again.

Those of you from the East Coast know that monsoon season seems to have
finally ended.

I've used this rain as a means to focus on the job, and save up enough cash
selling widgets to give me some time away from the job. My boss says, okay,
just come in, hold meetings with the junior sales associates, keep them on
track to make their numbers and you're fine. Funny, I've run across so many
alcoholics in my industry, but I really never drank from this job. It's
nothing compared to golf in terms of anxiety and stress.

I'm back to playing competitive golf. I'm good enough to be scaling back my
work hours and soon should be playing on the Nationwide tour. On this tour,
winning an event pays approx $100k (just for a week's worth of work).

I find myself in a Catch-22. Basically, I play much better when I drink.
It steadies my nerves I guess. Golf is such a "nerves" sport. It's a mind
game. You have to have a controlled mood. You can't let your emotions
overtake you after a bad shot, and must remain cool and composed after good
shots. There's a golf law of karma that states that over-celebrating will
lead to terrible play.

I really want this bad. I know there's no way to win, without some absolut
in my bag. But, I don't want to finish up rolling off the course, and
trying to make time with the girls working the events. How can I regulate
this?

I think I am trying to control anxiety and that this anxiety stems from not
being on the pro-tour. So, I think that once I make it to the pro tour,
I'll have less anxiety, and be able to drink less on the fareways. Also, as
I gain more experience, I seem to be gaining more confidence.

I'm relatively careful. I don't drink at home. Keep no liquor in the
apartment. Golf has me in great shape, a great tan. I do really well with
the ladies, but, know that I need to hold them at arms length, because golf
and families just don't mix.

I'm interested in a controlled moderation program.


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  #2  
Old 06-25-2003, 09:10 AM
Moonraker
 
Posts: n/a
Re: It's happening again


"green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
news:3ef99ac6@shknews01...
> I know there's no way to win, without some absolut
> in my bag.


>and be able to drink less on the fareways.


Do you remember one of the PGA tour pros getting disqualified from a event a
couple of years ago because a fan handed him a beer as he walked along the
ropes? And this happened during the pro-am part of the tourney. He got
sent home before he even teed off on Thurs.


AFAIK, the PGA Tour rules of conduct apply to the Nationwide also. Try
drinking while you are in competition and you won't have to worry about
winning or competing. You'll be back to selling widgets.

And, BTW, it's " fairways". But you knew that.






  #3  
Old 06-25-2003, 09:29 AM
green_wonder
 
Posts: n/a
Re: It's happening again

They won't catch me. There's no breathalyser (spelling?) on the tee. Plus,
most of use use vodka. You'd be suprised how many of us do it, though, if
you've been on tour, it's not suprising at all. I don't know how many take
steriods,etc., I don't but I've heard rumors. Regularly, I'd say 1 in 5
carry a flask. I'm not talking John Daly here, just a shot or two per 9.
If you're in contention, you know it's going to come down to putts. You
can't afford a case of the yips then.


"Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:qXgKa.6939$lT4.1629@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
>
> "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> news:3ef99ac6@shknews01...
> > I know there's no way to win, without some absolut
> > in my bag.

>
> >and be able to drink less on the fareways.

>
> Do you remember one of the PGA tour pros getting disqualified from a event

a
> couple of years ago because a fan handed him a beer as he walked along the
> ropes? And this happened during the pro-am part of the tourney. He got
> sent home before he even teed off on Thurs.
>
>
> AFAIK, the PGA Tour rules of conduct apply to the Nationwide also. Try
> drinking while you are in competition and you won't have to worry about
> winning or competing. You'll be back to selling widgets.
>
> And, BTW, it's " fairways". But you knew that.
>
>
>
>
>
>



  #4  
Old 06-26-2003, 09:56 AM
Moonraker
 
Posts: n/a
Re: It's happening again

I've spent more than a few days walking Tour events. With the 10's of
thousands of people, the marshals, PGA officials, media, and other players
around, I'd find it pretty well impossible for any competitor to be having
a nip during his round.

It's interesting you would mention John Daly. A few years back he was
playing at the BellSouth at Sugarloaf in an early morning start on Thursday.
I was in the rather sparse gallery....he hit a easy 8 iron to a 215yd par 3.
Astounding. Anyway, at that time, he had just celebrated 1 year sober. I
was standing on the cart path by the green as he walked right in front of
me. I had my 1 year AA bronze medalion in my pocket. I handed it to him
and said "maybe this will bring you some luck this week, it sure changed
things for me".

He stopped, tears welled up in his eyes, and he gave me a big hug. I saw
him using it as a ball marker a few more times that week. I think it was
the first time he made the cut that entire season.


"green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
news:3ef9a3aa@shknews01...
> They won't catch me. There's no breathalyser (spelling?) on the tee.

Plus,
> most of use use vodka. You'd be suprised how many of us do it, though, if
> you've been on tour, it's not suprising at all. I don't know how many

take
> steriods,etc., I don't but I've heard rumors. Regularly, I'd say 1 in 5
> carry a flask. I'm not talking John Daly here, just a shot or two per 9.
> If you're in contention, you know it's going to come down to putts. You
> can't afford a case of the yips then.
>
>
> "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:qXgKa.6939$lT4.1629@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
> >
> > "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> > news:3ef99ac6@shknews01...
> > > I know there's no way to win, without some absolut
> > > in my bag.

> >
> > >and be able to drink less on the fareways.

> >
> > Do you remember one of the PGA tour pros getting disqualified from a

event
> a
> > couple of years ago because a fan handed him a beer as he walked along

the
> > ropes? And this happened during the pro-am part of the tourney. He got
> > sent home before he even teed off on Thurs.
> >
> >
> > AFAIK, the PGA Tour rules of conduct apply to the Nationwide also. Try
> > drinking while you are in competition and you won't have to worry about
> > winning or competing. You'll be back to selling widgets.
> >
> > And, BTW, it's " fairways". But you knew that.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
>




  #5  
Old 06-26-2003, 10:17 AM
green_wonder
 
Posts: n/a
Re: It's happening again

Couldn't do it yesterday. Decided I'd start out the match dry. After a few
holes, the intensive heat was a warning that I'd better stick to gatorade,
I'd never make it 18 holes.

Things went well through the turn. Only two cases of the yips, but they
were 6 footers. I kept telling myself, that's gonna happen, that's gonna
happen. A couple guys dropped out after 14. the drinking heat may have
gotten to them. Maybe they were dry.

By 14, I only needed to win one more hole for the match. I'm thinking to
myself, I gotta be steady. See first how 15 goes. If it goes bad, take a
shot of vodka (which, oh by the way, is very hard to detect on the breath,
and is perfectly clear in a water bottle.

Wouldn't you know it, I won the match by the 15th. I was actually
considering taking a swig for the par 3 16th which no doubt would've
required a good putt to win.

The heat was intoxicating. I actually played well, my mind focused one two
things. Play well, don't get overheated.

By the way, John's not the only member of AA on the big tour. Won't name
names, but if you're really curious, you can find out who some of them are.



"Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:mICKa.16385$lT4.3216@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> I've spent more than a few days walking Tour events. With the 10's of
> thousands of people, the marshals, PGA officials, media, and other players
> around, I'd find it pretty well impossible for any competitor to be

having
> a nip during his round.
>
> It's interesting you would mention John Daly. A few years back he was
> playing at the BellSouth at Sugarloaf in an early morning start on

Thursday.
> I was in the rather sparse gallery....he hit a easy 8 iron to a 215yd par

3.
> Astounding. Anyway, at that time, he had just celebrated 1 year sober.

I
> was standing on the cart path by the green as he walked right in front of
> me. I had my 1 year AA bronze medalion in my pocket. I handed it to him
> and said "maybe this will bring you some luck this week, it sure changed
> things for me".
>
> He stopped, tears welled up in his eyes, and he gave me a big hug. I

saw
> him using it as a ball marker a few more times that week. I think it was
> the first time he made the cut that entire season.
>
>
> "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> news:3ef9a3aa@shknews01...
> > They won't catch me. There's no breathalyser (spelling?) on the tee.

> Plus,
> > most of use use vodka. You'd be suprised how many of us do it, though,

if
> > you've been on tour, it's not suprising at all. I don't know how many

> take
> > steriods,etc., I don't but I've heard rumors. Regularly, I'd say 1 in 5
> > carry a flask. I'm not talking John Daly here, just a shot or two per

9.
> > If you're in contention, you know it's going to come down to putts. You
> > can't afford a case of the yips then.
> >
> >
> > "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:qXgKa.6939$lT4.1629@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
> > >
> > > "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3ef99ac6@shknews01...
> > > > I know there's no way to win, without some absolut
> > > > in my bag.
> > >
> > > >and be able to drink less on the fareways.
> > >
> > > Do you remember one of the PGA tour pros getting disqualified from a

> event
> > a
> > > couple of years ago because a fan handed him a beer as he walked along

> the
> > > ropes? And this happened during the pro-am part of the tourney. He

got
> > > sent home before he even teed off on Thurs.
> > >
> > >
> > > AFAIK, the PGA Tour rules of conduct apply to the Nationwide also.

Try
> > > drinking while you are in competition and you won't have to worry

about
> > > winning or competing. You'll be back to selling widgets.
> > >
> > > And, BTW, it's " fairways". But you knew that.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>
>



  #6  
Old 06-26-2003, 10:30 AM
Moonraker
 
Posts: n/a
Re: It's happening again

Where would you be playing match play?

I don't think JD is still making meetings. How about Fuzzy?

"green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
news:3efb006a@shknews01...
> Couldn't do it yesterday. Decided I'd start out the match dry. After a

few
> holes, the intensive heat was a warning that I'd better stick to gatorade,
> I'd never make it 18 holes.
>
> Things went well through the turn. Only two cases of the yips, but they
> were 6 footers. I kept telling myself, that's gonna happen, that's gonna
> happen. A couple guys dropped out after 14. the drinking heat may have
> gotten to them. Maybe they were dry.
>
> By 14, I only needed to win one more hole for the match. I'm thinking to
> myself, I gotta be steady. See first how 15 goes. If it goes bad, take a
> shot of vodka (which, oh by the way, is very hard to detect on the breath,
> and is perfectly clear in a water bottle.
>
> Wouldn't you know it, I won the match by the 15th. I was actually
> considering taking a swig for the par 3 16th which no doubt would've
> required a good putt to win.
>
> The heat was intoxicating. I actually played well, my mind focused one

two
> things. Play well, don't get overheated.
>
> By the way, John's not the only member of AA on the big tour. Won't name
> names, but if you're really curious, you can find out who some of them

are.
>
>
>
> "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:mICKa.16385$lT4.3216@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> > I've spent more than a few days walking Tour events. With the 10's of
> > thousands of people, the marshals, PGA officials, media, and other

players
> > around, I'd find it pretty well impossible for any competitor to be

> having
> > a nip during his round.
> >
> > It's interesting you would mention John Daly. A few years back he was
> > playing at the BellSouth at Sugarloaf in an early morning start on

> Thursday.
> > I was in the rather sparse gallery....he hit a easy 8 iron to a 215yd

par
> 3.
> > Astounding. Anyway, at that time, he had just celebrated 1 year sober.

> I
> > was standing on the cart path by the green as he walked right in front

of
> > me. I had my 1 year AA bronze medalion in my pocket. I handed it to

him
> > and said "maybe this will bring you some luck this week, it sure

changed
> > things for me".
> >
> > He stopped, tears welled up in his eyes, and he gave me a big hug. I

> saw
> > him using it as a ball marker a few more times that week. I think it

was
> > the first time he made the cut that entire season.
> >
> >
> > "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> > news:3ef9a3aa@shknews01...
> > > They won't catch me. There's no breathalyser (spelling?) on the tee.

> > Plus,
> > > most of use use vodka. You'd be suprised how many of us do it,

though,
> if
> > > you've been on tour, it's not suprising at all. I don't know how many

> > take
> > > steriods,etc., I don't but I've heard rumors. Regularly, I'd say 1 in

5
> > > carry a flask. I'm not talking John Daly here, just a shot or two per

> 9.
> > > If you're in contention, you know it's going to come down to putts.

You
> > > can't afford a case of the yips then.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > news:qXgKa.6939$lT4.1629@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
> > > >
> > > > "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3ef99ac6@shknews01...
> > > > > I know there's no way to win, without some absolut
> > > > > in my bag.
> > > >
> > > > >and be able to drink less on the fareways.
> > > >
> > > > Do you remember one of the PGA tour pros getting disqualified from a

> > event
> > > a
> > > > couple of years ago because a fan handed him a beer as he walked

along
> > the
> > > > ropes? And this happened during the pro-am part of the tourney. He

> got
> > > > sent home before he even teed off on Thurs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > AFAIK, the PGA Tour rules of conduct apply to the Nationwide also.

> Try
> > > > drinking while you are in competition and you won't have to worry

> about
> > > > winning or competing. You'll be back to selling widgets.
> > > >
> > > > And, BTW, it's " fairways". But you knew that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >
> >

>
>




  #7  
Old 06-27-2003, 04:15 PM
Robert McGregor
 
Posts: n/a
Re: It's happening again

So much for AA's *promise* of anonymity!

Bob


"Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:mICKa.16385$lT4.3216@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> It's interesting you would mention John Daly.


"Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:ucDKa.16392$lT4.4337@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> Where would you be playing match play?
>
> I don't think JD is still making meetings. How about Fuzzy?
>
> "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> news:3efb006a@shknews01...
> > Couldn't do it yesterday. Decided I'd start out the match dry. After a

> few
> > holes, the intensive heat was a warning that I'd better stick to

gatorade,
> > I'd never make it 18 holes.
> >
> > Things went well through the turn. Only two cases of the yips, but they
> > were 6 footers. I kept telling myself, that's gonna happen, that's

gonna
> > happen. A couple guys dropped out after 14. the drinking heat may have
> > gotten to them. Maybe they were dry.
> >
> > By 14, I only needed to win one more hole for the match. I'm thinking

to
> > myself, I gotta be steady. See first how 15 goes. If it goes bad, take

a
> > shot of vodka (which, oh by the way, is very hard to detect on the

breath,
> > and is perfectly clear in a water bottle.
> >
> > Wouldn't you know it, I won the match by the 15th. I was actually
> > considering taking a swig for the par 3 16th which no doubt would've
> > required a good putt to win.
> >
> > The heat was intoxicating. I actually played well, my mind focused one

> two
> > things. Play well, don't get overheated.
> >
> > By the way, John's not the only member of AA on the big tour. Won't

name
> > names, but if you're really curious, you can find out who some of them

> are.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:mICKa.16385$lT4.3216@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> > > I've spent more than a few days walking Tour events. With the 10's of
> > > thousands of people, the marshals, PGA officials, media, and other

> players
> > > around, I'd find it pretty well impossible for any competitor to be

> > having
> > > a nip during his round.
> > >
> > > It's interesting you would mention John Daly. A few years back he was
> > > playing at the BellSouth at Sugarloaf in an early morning start on

> > Thursday.
> > > I was in the rather sparse gallery....he hit a easy 8 iron to a 215yd

> par
> > 3.
> > > Astounding. Anyway, at that time, he had just celebrated 1 year

sober.
> > I
> > > was standing on the cart path by the green as he walked right in front

> of
> > > me. I had my 1 year AA bronze medalion in my pocket. I handed it to

> him
> > > and said "maybe this will bring you some luck this week, it sure

> changed
> > > things for me".
> > >
> > > He stopped, tears welled up in his eyes, and he gave me a big hug.

I
> > saw
> > > him using it as a ball marker a few more times that week. I think it

> was
> > > the first time he made the cut that entire season.
> > >
> > >
> > > "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3ef9a3aa@shknews01...
> > > > They won't catch me. There's no breathalyser (spelling?) on the

tee.
> > > Plus,
> > > > most of use use vodka. You'd be suprised how many of us do it,

> though,
> > if
> > > > you've been on tour, it's not suprising at all. I don't know how

many
> > > take
> > > > steriods,etc., I don't but I've heard rumors. Regularly, I'd say 1

in
> 5
> > > > carry a flask. I'm not talking John Daly here, just a shot or two

per
> > 9.
> > > > If you're in contention, you know it's going to come down to putts.

> You
> > > > can't afford a case of the yips then.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:qXgKa.6939$lT4.1629@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
> > > > >
> > > > > "green_wonder" <green_wonder@up_and_down.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3ef99ac6@shknews01...
> > > > > > I know there's no way to win, without some absolut
> > > > > > in my bag.
> > > > >
> > > > > >and be able to drink less on the fareways.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you remember one of the PGA tour pros getting disqualified from

a
> > > event
> > > > a
> > > > > couple of years ago because a fan handed him a beer as he walked

> along
> > > the
> > > > > ropes? And this happened during the pro-am part of the tourney.

He
> > got
> > > > > sent home before he even teed off on Thurs.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > AFAIK, the PGA Tour rules of conduct apply to the Nationwide also.

> > Try
> > > > > drinking while you are in competition and you won't have to worry

> > about
> > > > > winning or competing. You'll be back to selling widgets.
> > > > >
> > > > > And, BTW, it's " fairways". But you knew that.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>
>




  #8  
Old 06-27-2003, 04:44 PM
Robert McGregor
 
Posts: n/a
Re: It's happening again


"Moonraker" <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:_R1La.1846$Im5.1583@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
>
> "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:bdi8tf$tlks7$1@ID-49289.news.dfncis.de...
> > So much for AA's *promise* of anonymity!
> >

> The celebrity himself broke his own anonymity. 'Twasn't me. He made
> frequent references to the program and his membership and progress in

public
> interviews on the Golf Channel and in Golf Week magazine.
>


He did not break it here. May even regret it. His privilege is your right?

Bob


  #9  
Old 06-27-2003, 04:47 PM
Moonraker
 
Posts: n/a
Re: It's happening again


"Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:bdi8tf$tlks7$1@ID-49289.news.dfncis.de...
> So much for AA's *promise* of anonymity!
>

The celebrity himself broke his own anonymity. 'Twasn't me. He made
frequent references to the program and his membership and progress in public
interviews on the Golf Channel and in Golf Week magazine.




  #10  
Old 06-28-2003, 05:38 AM
Robert McGregor
 
Posts: n/a
Re: It's happening again


"Blue Moon" <mfoco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0703f7090d06d6d96ab0b9963372ec32@free.teranew s.com...
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 06:15:06 +1000, "Robert McGregor"
> <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> >So much for AA's *promise* of anonymity!

>
> What promise? I know of no such promise.
>
> --
> Blue Moon


http://www.aa.org/default/en_about_aa.cfm?pageid=1
"assurance to all A.A.s, especially to newcomers, that their A.A. membership
will not be disclosed."
http://alcoholism.about.com/library/blmitch21.htm
"He has to stop distribution of the German translation, reveal all
distribution and production details (including the full names of AA members
into public court records). "


 


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