I am an alcoholic, and subscribe fully to the notion that an alcoholic
will only change when they want to.
I know that i'm killing myself plus causing myself a myriad of problems,
but choose to continue drinking. Why is this not sufficient to motivate
me to change?

--
And.
CV12

On Jun 8, 12:35 pm, We are the robots <and...@world.com> wrote:
> I am an alcoholic, and subscribe fully to the notion that an alcoholic
> will only change when they want to.
> I know that i'm killing myself plus causing myself a myriad of problems,
> but choose to continue drinking. Why is this not sufficient to motivate
> me to change?
>
> --
> And.
> CV12

Our Text=AA P24ar0

At a certain point in the drinking of every alcoholic, he passes into
a state where the most powerful desire to stop drinking is of
absolutely no avail. This tragic situation has already arrived in
practically every case long before it is suspected.

I highly suggest you read Our Text - Alcoholics Anonymous. That will
do you no good until you do precisely what it says we do. If you are
like I was, you will likely need to follow direction from some who has
done what it says we do.

We are the robots wrote:
> I am an alcoholic, and subscribe fully to the notion that an
> alcoholic will only change when they want to. I know that i'm killing
> myself plus causing myself a myriad of problems, but choose to
> continue drinking. Why is this not sufficient to motivate me to
> change?
>

There's that many definitions of "alcoholic" to make the word almost
meaningless, but no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't guarantee I
wouldn't keep drinking until I dropped, and no matter who I promised, I
did not stay stopped after I dropped.

I didn't stop drinking, and stay stopped, until I found sufficient hope
that the unnecessary frightening changes to my life would be more than
worth the effort _for me_ and a formula (in my case the 12 step program)
capable of initiating and sustaining sufficient resolution to nurture
that hope through to reality.

More than ten years ago, when I chose to start those steps, there was no
way in the world I could have described my situation, and with benefit
of hindsight I realise I couldn't understand the solution either. All I
knew was I didn't want to be drunk again, and amazingly, I succeeded.

Fortunately for me I didn't need to understand much at all, including
the God theory. All I did was comply, _as best I could_, with these
instructions. http://silkworth.net/bb/howitworks.html

We are the robots wrote:
> I am an alcoholic, and subscribe fully to the notion that an
> alcoholic will only change when they want to. I know that i'm killing
> myself plus causing myself a myriad of problems, but choose to
> continue drinking. Why is this not sufficient to motivate me to
> change?
>

There's that many definitions of "alcoholic" to make the word almost
meaningless to me, but no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't guarantee I
wouldn't keep drinking until I dropped, and no matter who I promised, I
did not stay stopped after I dropped.

I didn't stop drinking, and stay stopped, until I found sufficient hope
that the unnecessary frightening changes to my life would be more than
worth the effort _for me_ and a formula (in my case the 12 step program)
capable of initiating and sustaining sufficient resolution to nurture
that hope through to reality.

More than ten years ago, when I chose to start those steps, there was no
way in the world I could have described my situation, and with benefit
of hindsight I realise I couldn't understand the solution either. All I
knew was I didn't want to be drunk again, and amazingly, I succeeded.

Fortunately for me I didn't need to understand much at all, including
the God theory. All I did was comply, _as best I could_, with these
instructions. http://silkworth.net/bb/howitworks.html

--
Bob

The reason why it is difficult to give up alcohol for alcoholics is
because the underlying biochemistry of alcoholism is more powerful
then your free will. Thus the problem cannot be willed away.

It is only when we start to understand that the underlying
biochemistry of addiction and how to manipulate it that we can recover
from alcoholism. It is a matter of treating the underlying illness
that hads addiction as one of its symptoms.

Please read:

"Why Alcoholics drink?" at
http://www.hypoglycemia.asn.au/artic...ics_drink.html

"Alcoholism (Addiction) is a Treatable Disease" at:
http://www.hypoglycemia.asn.au/artic...treatable.html

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:35:58 +0000, We are the robots wrote:

> I am an alcoholic, and subscribe fully to the notion that an alcoholic
> will only change when they want to.
> I know that i'm killing myself plus causing myself a myriad of problems,
> but choose to continue drinking. Why is this not sufficient to motivate
> me to change?

Because you're not done. It's promising however. It seems as though
you've gone from the "It was fun while it lasted" phase to "It's lasting
longer than it was fun".

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