100mg Diazepam, 15mg Zopilclone, + a hand full of Librium I found left
over from somehwre, and about 10ml of Valariun root extract, all on
top of a bottle of vodka...... My body is dead, but my head is clear
as a bell, just full of thoughts of self loathing and regret....and to
put it plainly pure panic.... I just cant seem to detox myself this
time..... I know a few clean days and I will be well enough to start
finding that solution again, but at the moment I can't stand anymore
than a few hours..

"Tomas" <tvoncarlshausen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179597556.357303.313860@n59g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> 100mg Diazepam, 15mg Zopilclone, + a hand full of Librium I found left
> over from somehwre, and about 10ml of Valariun root extract, all on
> top of a bottle of vodka...... My body is dead, but my head is clear
> as a bell, just full of thoughts of self loathing and regret....and to
> put it plainly pure panic.... I just cant seem to detox myself this
> time..... I know a few clean days and I will be well enough to start
> finding that solution again, but at the moment I can't stand anymore
> than a few hours..
>


Have you told the doctor who is prescribing all this stuff (I hope it is
prescribed and not obtained illegally) how you are feeling, plus using
alcohol with all those meds?
Do you believe you need all those meds, or have you been told you need them?
Just curious. I know the doc does not prescribe the alcohol to be taken with
meds, and vice versa. Does you doctor know you drink with all those?
Gail

Tomas wrote:
> 100mg Diazepam, 15mg Zopilclone, + a hand full of Librium I found left
> over from somehwre, and about 10ml of Valariun root extract, all on
> top of a bottle of vodka...... My body is dead, but my head is clear
> as a bell, just full of thoughts of self loathing and regret....and to
> put it plainly pure panic.... I just cant seem to detox myself this
> time..... I know a few clean days and I will be well enough to start
> finding that solution again, but at the moment I can't stand anymore
> than a few hours..
>

Truly, if you had *ever* found a solution, would you be carrying on like
that now?

One thing I (serendipitously) discovered for myself, and have observed
in others ever since, is that the 12 step, (and probably all other
methods too) solution for alcoholism is *experiential*

In other words, without taking a formula as directed (eg, with the
sequential 12 steps, fearlessly and thoroughly) you know absolutely fuck
all about solutions, and that might explain, even to you, Tomas, the
mess you're in right now!

--
Bob

Tomas wrote:
<snip>
Have you thought about an inpatient detox?
Because you're going to end up worm food if you do this too many times!

> 100mg Diazepam, 15mg Zopilclone, + a hand full of Librium I found left
> over from somehwre, and about 10ml of Valariun root extract, all on
> top of a bottle of vodka...... My body is dead, but my head is clear
> as a bell, just full of thoughts of self loathing and regret....and to
> put it plainly pure panic.... I just cant seem to detox myself this
> time..... I know a few clean days and I will be well enough to start
> finding that solution again, but at the moment I can't stand anymore
> than a few hours..

I have found myself in the same crux! Pills to detox on...just prolonged
the detoxing.
Mine was mostly Ativan and Xanax. I've in the last year have detoxed at
home, one
time spent two days in the hospital with a script for Librium and Ativan!!!
Didn't do
too good a job on my detoxing.
I have in the past taken/ Nyquil/Benadryl/ALOT of vitamins, especially
Thiamine/
vinegar to flush my liver/Gatorade/herbal sedatives/bananas for the
potassium....on & on.
My intention was not to go into DT's at home by myself...very dangerous!! I
have
in the past spent 3 days tied down to a hospital bed!!, much more than once.
I wish you the best Tomas.

Zopiclone? You must be Canadian.Cant get generic Imovane in the States.
I hate to say it but I have been in your shoes many times and have found the
toughest solutions to my problems were best.
As far as I know noone has ever died from a lack of sleep. I usually go
about four days then sleep and sleep and........
I leave notes for myself all over the house. They say things like "Suck it
up Princess!!" and "Grow Up !!!"
Read up on Valium and Imovane. I think what you find will surprise you.

"Tomas" <tvoncarlshausen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179597556.357303.313860@n59g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> 100mg Diazepam, 15mg Zopilclone, + a hand full of Librium I found left
> over from somehwre, and about 10ml of Valariun root extract, all on
> top of a bottle of vodka...... My body is dead, but my head is clear
> as a bell, just full of thoughts of self loathing and regret....and to
> put it plainly pure panic.... I just cant seem to detox myself this
> time..... I know a few clean days and I will be well enough to start
> finding that solution again, but at the moment I can't stand anymore
> than a few hours..
>

On May 19, 10:59 am, Tomas <tvoncarlshau...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 100mg Diazepam, 15mg Zopilclone, + a hand full of Librium I found left
> over from somehwre, and about 10ml of Valariun root extract, all on
> top of a bottle of vodka...... My body is dead, but my head is clear
> as a bell, just full of thoughts of self loathing and regret....and to
> put it plainly pure panic.... I just cant seem to detox myself this
> time..... I know a few clean days and I will be well enough to start
> finding that solution again, but at the moment I can't stand anymore
> than a few hours..

I'd immediately go with the previously suggested inpaitient detox.
Elvis Presley walked away from one too many of these facilities
prematurely and paid with his life.

On Sat, 19 May 2007 10:59:16 -0700, Tomas wrote:

> time..... I know a few clean days and I will be well enough to start
> finding that solution again, but at the moment I can't stand anymore
> than a few hours..

_Contrary action_. Instead of veering to a liquor store, veer into an AA
meeting, or call a friend in the program. I've heard some say AA isn't a
self-help program, it's a god-help program. It might be true, but it's
also a we program. If you put the word "we" at the beginning of each of
the 12 steps, you would improve the grammar without changing the meaning
of any of the steps. For step 12, however, you'd have to make it "We, ".
I leaned heavy on AA for quite a while in early sobriety. It's not
uncommon, and is just a matter of doing it.


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