"Robert McGregor" <rule@sixtythree.com> wrote in message
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> Craig S. wrote:
>> "Robert McGregor" <rule@sixtythree.com> wrote in message
>> news:464f3609$0$491$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au...
>>> steve wrote:
>>>> Using God as I understand Him was one of the worst things I have ever
>>>> done in my life. I'm sober 28 years now. I'm not looking to influence
>>>> anyone or preach. Its just my experience.
>>> LOL! Did God get terrible cranky with you for trying to *use* Him?
>>>
>>> Didn't you ever stop giving orders long enough to remember it's supposed
>>> to be the other way round, *Him* using you?
>>
>> Same difference.
>>
>>
>
> Did you tell your employees it's the same difference as to who gives the
> lead, and who does the work, or did the "recovering" hopefuls from the
> rehab work that one out for themselves?

There's a way round that. The emplyees take the orders first then they make
sure they get promoted over the bosses head then they give the orders.

>
> One concept I found "believers" generally easily agree with is "God will
> not do for us what we can do for ourselves."

Even if we can't do it ourselves you usually don't see that god for dust. It
is sais amongst certain beleivers that once God finished whittling the
earth, he buggered off, not realisin that a few million years later, lie
would form. It's a bit like leaving a plate with a sandwich on it under the
bed. You forget about it then years later you find it again covered in
milions of new forms of life.

>
>
> --
> Bob

Darren wrote:
>
>> One concept I found "believers" generally easily agree with is "God will
>> not do for us what we can do for ourselves."
>
> Even if we can't do it ourselves you usually don't see that god for dust.


According to AA, the AA God can *ONLY* be found deep inside us, so are
you sure it wasn't just your own bulldust you were seeing?
http://anonpress.org/bb/Page_55.htm

All the other guff aside, that particular BB explanation makes enough
sense for me to make sense of the 12 steps. I know Orientals say it, but
don't even scientists say there is heaps of useful stuff deep inside us
that we seldom if ever use?

LOL Thank Noab that God isn't religious, or I'd be in deep deep shit
right now


PS: Maybe inquiring minds want to know, though,
*what on earth do you see of god in _unusual_ times* ?

--
Bob

In article <ivJ3i.82$U54.50@newsfe02.lga>, Craig S.
<cspurlock@charter.net> wrote:

> "Robert McGregor" <rule@sixtythree.com> wrote in message
>
> news:464f48e5$0$494$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.a
> u...
> > Craig S. wrote:
> > > "Robert McGregor" <rule@sixtythree.com> wrote in message
> > >
>
> news:464f3609$0$491$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.a
> u...
> > >> steve wrote:
> > >>> Using God as I understand Him was one of the worst things I have ever
> > >>> done in my life. I'm sober 28 years now. I'm not looking to influence
> > >>> anyone or preach. Its just my experience.
> > >> LOL! Did God get terrible cranky with you for trying to *use* Him?
> > >>
> > >> Didn't you ever stop giving orders long enough to remember it's
> supposed
> > >> to be the other way round, *Him* using you?
> > >
> > > Same difference.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Did you tell your employees it's the same difference as to who gives the
> > lead, and who does the work, or did the "recovering" hopefuls from the
> > rehab work that one out for themselves?
> >
> > One concept I found "believers" generally easily agree with is "God will
> > not do for us what we can do for ourselves."
>
> Isn't that about the same idea as if we were all waiting for God to do
> something, we'd be waiting forever?

How on earth did you ever figure out how to keep all your atoms
swirling together in just the right pattern like that to exist? Bravo!

"Virtualoso" <uhuh@no.com> wrote in message
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> In article <ivJ3i.82$U54.50@newsfe02.lga>, Craig S.
> <cspurlock@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> "Robert McGregor" <rule@sixtythree.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:464f48e5$0$494$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.a
>> u...
>> > Craig S. wrote:
>> > > "Robert McGregor" <rule@sixtythree.com> wrote in message
>> > >
>>
>> news:464f3609$0$491$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.a
>> u...
>> > >> steve wrote:
>> > >>> Using God as I understand Him was one of the worst things I have
>> > >>> ever
>> > >>> done in my life. I'm sober 28 years now. I'm not looking to
>> > >>> influence
>> > >>> anyone or preach. Its just my experience.
>> > >> LOL! Did God get terrible cranky with you for trying to *use* Him?
>> > >>
>> > >> Didn't you ever stop giving orders long enough to remember it's
>> supposed
>> > >> to be the other way round, *Him* using you?
>> > >
>> > > Same difference.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > Did you tell your employees it's the same difference as to who gives
>> > the
>> > lead, and who does the work, or did the "recovering" hopefuls from the
>> > rehab work that one out for themselves?
>> >
>> > One concept I found "believers" generally easily agree with is "God
>> > will
>> > not do for us what we can do for ourselves."
>>
>> Isn't that about the same idea as if we were all waiting for God to do
>> something, we'd be waiting forever?
>
> How on earth did you ever figure out how to keep all your atoms
> swirling together in just the right pattern like that to exist? Bravo!

You assume your god did that.

"Robert McGregor" <rule@sixtythree.com> wrote in message
news:464fa400$0$490$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au...
> Darren wrote:
>>
>>> One concept I found "believers" generally easily agree with is "God will
>>> not do for us what we can do for ourselves."
>>
>> Even if we can't do it ourselves you usually don't see that god for dust.
>
>
> According to AA, the AA God can *ONLY* be found deep inside us, so are you
> sure it wasn't just your own bulldust you were seeing?
> http://anonpress.org/bb/Page_55.htm

I didn't see that god through whatever dust it was.
>
> All the other guff aside, that particular BB explanation makes enough
> sense for me to make sense of the 12 steps. I know Orientals say it, but
> don't even scientists say there is heaps of useful stuff deep inside us
> that we seldom if ever use?

The appendix for one, but what's the latest on the tonsils I wonder.

>
> LOL Thank Noab that God isn't religious, or I'd be in deep deep shit right
> now
>



>
> PS: Maybe inquiring minds want to know, though,
> *what on earth do you see of god in _unusual_ times* ?

I imagine people saw much more of god when there was no tv.

>
> --
> Bob

"Virtualoso" <uhuh@no.com> wrote in message
news:190520072244241420%uhuh@no.com...

> How on earth did you ever figure out how to keep all your atoms
> swirling together in just the right pattern like that to exist? Bravo!

My atoms think for themselves, thank you.

In article <LI74i.46$BD5.4@newsfe02.lga>, Craig S.
<cspurlocktakethisout@takethisoutcharter.net> wrote:

> "Virtualoso" <uhuh@no.com> wrote in message
> news:190520072244241420%uhuh@no.com...
>
> > How on earth did you ever figure out how to keep all your atoms
> > swirling together in just the right pattern like that to exist? Bravo!
>
> My atoms think for themselves, thank you.

The Lord does work in Quantum Ways. '-)

"alienated granny gail" <dranoelliag@yahoo.com.com.com> wrote in
news:4EF3i.11$5Y5.3@newsfe03.lga:

> it is the same God, just different
> opinions of what that God wants,

I stopped reading right there because I disagree with the concept "what god
wants". The god of my understanding (which I choose not to call god) is the
internal subconscious, which includes the ability to absorb new ideas and
correct old ones. The idea that there's some one giant being in the sky
somewhere that contols your fate and listen to prayers of 6 billion talking
monkeys on a remote spec of dust is just lunacy to me. If it works for,
fine. Whatever works.

--
-------
Say it loud
http://tinyurl.com/39rhxa

anything is better than that "loving God" garbage. Good luck.

On 27 May 2007 23:20:29 GMT, OceanView <me@TheSea.com> wrote:

>"alienated granny gail" <dranoelliag@yahoo.com.com.com> wrote in
>news:4EF3i.11$5Y5.3@newsfe03.lga:
>
>> it is the same God, just different
>> opinions of what that God wants,
>
>I stopped reading right there because I disagree with the concept "what god
>wants". The god of my understanding (which I choose not to call god) is the
>internal subconscious, which includes the ability to absorb new ideas and
>correct old ones. The idea that there's some one giant being in the sky
>somewhere that contols your fate and listen to prayers of 6 billion talking
>monkeys on a remote spec of dust is just lunacy to me. If it works for,
>fine. Whatever works.