Please please could someone help me with advice about liver disease. I have
been reading various websites about it and am absolutely scared to death. I
need info from people who have been there please.

I have been a heavy drinker for some time, and although I have had elevated
blood tests it hasn't stopped me.

However recently I have been drinkng excessively even by my standards, and
am now getting scary symptoms. The main one being an ache in my stomach just
below my right hand side ribs. I also have pains in my back which feel like
regular back pain, but have been persistant and move about a bit but is
mainly on my right hand side of my body and slightly to the rear at about
rib level. I am also vomiting, even though I have not had a drink for a
couple of days now. It is a clear liquid and I am guessing it is bile.

Please please could somebody tell me if they had these symptoms and whether
the problem is liver disease. I am hoping that it is just my body still
flushing away the toxins of the past. But I am really scared.


Sorry for the gory details

Chris

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:55:51 +0000, chris wrote:

> Please please could someone help me with advice about liver disease. I have
> been reading various websites about it and am absolutely scared to death. I
> need info from people who have been there please.
>
> I have been a heavy drinker for some time, and although I have had elevated
> blood tests it hasn't stopped me.
>
> However recently I have been drinkng excessively even by my standards, and
> am now getting scary symptoms. The main one being an ache in my stomach just
> below my right hand side ribs. I also have pains in my back which feel like
> regular back pain, but have been persistant and move about a bit but is
> mainly on my right hand side of my body and slightly to the rear at about
> rib level. I am also vomiting, even though I have not had a drink for a
> couple of days now. It is a clear liquid and I am guessing it is bile.
>
> Please please could somebody tell me if they had these symptoms and whether
> the problem is liver disease. I am hoping that it is just my body still
> flushing away the toxins of the past. But I am really scared.
>
>
> Sorry for the gory details
>
> Chris

Stop drinking and see a doctor.

you would be amazed at the changes your body will make, IF and WHEN you stop
drinking.
so you need help to stop?





"chris" <jcmlilley@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:454593e8$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Please please could someone help me with advice about liver disease. I
> have been reading various websites about it and am absolutely scared to
> death. I need info from people who have been there please.
>
> I have been a heavy drinker for some time, and although I have had
> elevated blood tests it hasn't stopped me.
>
> However recently I have been drinkng excessively even by my standards, and
> am now getting scary symptoms. The main one being an ache in my stomach
> just below my right hand side ribs. I also have pains in my back which
> feel like regular back pain, but have been persistant and move about a bit
> but is mainly on my right hand side of my body and slightly to the rear at
> about rib level. I am also vomiting, even though I have not had a drink
> for a couple of days now. It is a clear liquid and I am guessing it is
> bile.
>
> Please please could somebody tell me if they had these symptoms and
> whether the problem is liver disease. I am hoping that it is just my body
> still flushing away the toxins of the past. But I am really scared.
>
>
> Sorry for the gory details
>
> Chris
>

A friend of mine died over the weekend from all of the drugs and
alcohol she consumed. I didn't make a mad dash to the liquor cabinet.
If you're serious about wanting to quit the alcohol then talk about it
with your doctor.

chris wrote:
> Please please could someone help me with advice about liver disease. I have
> been reading various websites about it and am absolutely scared to death. I
> need info from people who have been there please.
>
> I have been a heavy drinker for some time, and although I have had elevated
> blood tests it hasn't stopped me.
>
> However recently I have been drinkng excessively even by my standards, and
> am now getting scary symptoms. The main one being an ache in my stomach just
> below my right hand side ribs. I also have pains in my back which feel like
> regular back pain, but have been persistant and move about a bit but is
> mainly on my right hand side of my body and slightly to the rear at about
> rib level. I am also vomiting, even though I have not had a drink for a
> couple of days now. It is a clear liquid and I am guessing it is bile.
>
> Please please could somebody tell me if they had these symptoms and whether
> the problem is liver disease. I am hoping that it is just my body still
> flushing away the toxins of the past. But I am really scared.
>
>
> Sorry for the gory details
>
> Chris

Yes do need help to stop. However I have not had a drink in 3 days now and
the pains are subsiding. Don;t know if I am out of the woods yet though.
Talked to an ex Alcoholic (if you can ever be an ex alchy) and he told me a
few home truths. Now I have a shoulder to cry on, I am hoping he will
support me as he has been there and done that. Thats experience a doctor
can't replace

Thanks for all that replied. Your posts are a great therapy


"readandpostrosie" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:s0p1h.42342$cc3.26213@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> you would be amazed at the changes your body will make, IF and WHEN you
> stop drinking.
> so you need help to stop?
>
>
>
>
>
> "chris" <jcmlilley@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:454593e8$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> Please please could someone help me with advice about liver disease. I
>> have been reading various websites about it and am absolutely scared to
>> death. I need info from people who have been there please.
>>
>> I have been a heavy drinker for some time, and although I have had
>> elevated blood tests it hasn't stopped me.
>>
>> However recently I have been drinkng excessively even by my standards,
>> and am now getting scary symptoms. The main one being an ache in my
>> stomach just below my right hand side ribs. I also have pains in my back
>> which feel like regular back pain, but have been persistant and move
>> about a bit but is mainly on my right hand side of my body and slightly
>> to the rear at about rib level. I am also vomiting, even though I have
>> not had a drink for a couple of days now. It is a clear liquid and I am
>> guessing it is bile.
>>
>> Please please could somebody tell me if they had these symptoms and
>> whether the problem is liver disease. I am hoping that it is just my body
>> still flushing away the toxins of the past. But I am really scared.
>>
>>
>> Sorry for the gory details
>>
>> Chris
>>
>
>

"chris" <jcmlilley@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:454593e8$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Please please could someone help me with advice about liver disease. I
have
> been reading various websites about it and am absolutely scared to death.
I
> need info from people who have been there please.
>
> I have been a heavy drinker for some time, and although I have had
elevated
> blood tests it hasn't stopped me.
>
> However recently I have been drinkng excessively even by my standards, and
> am now getting scary symptoms. The main one being an ache in my stomach
just
> below my right hand side ribs. I also have pains in my back which feel
like
> regular back pain, but have been persistant and move about a bit but is
> mainly on my right hand side of my body and slightly to the rear at about
> rib level. I am also vomiting, even though I have not had a drink for a
> couple of days now. It is a clear liquid and I am guessing it is bile.
>
> Please please could somebody tell me if they had these symptoms and
whether
> the problem is liver disease. I am hoping that it is just my body still
> flushing away the toxins of the past. But I am really scared.
>
>
> Sorry for the gory details
>
> Chris
>
>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I don't know what your symptoms mean, but you really should see a doctor. It
sounds serious. I do know that if you've been drinking heavey non stop for
years that you shouldn't stop on your own. It could kill you.

chris wrote:
>
> However recently I have been drinkng excessively even by my standards, and
> am now getting scary symptoms. The main one being an ache in my stomach just
> below my right hand side ribs.
> I am also vomiting, even though I have not had a drink for a
> couple of days now. It is a clear liquid and I am guessing it is bile.
>

The good ole days ... I remember those mornings.

Do you puke before you drink in the morning or after ?
I use to hate drinking to get the pain over only to throw up
a good buzz then I hated to start over .


I had to puke first to get all the nasty bile out of my stomach
from the day before. Sometimes I had to stick my finger
down my throat to toss up the big hunks.


> Please please could somebody tell me if they had these symptoms and whether
> the problem is liver disease.

Your likely on the way to cirrhosis .. unless your liver AST tests
are above
2000 or so your quite there yet. Have you really had blood tests
recently ?

> I am hoping that it is just my body still
> flushing away the toxins of the past.

No.. Your body is telling you it's time to seek help and quit drinking.

> But I am really scared.

> Chris

You know Chris . I had the same symptoms and worries you have ..
My liver pains were due to inflammed liver ..
I looked like shit, felt like shit .. and it kept getting worse
and I kept getting scarier ... but the next day/week/ would start all
over.

1. You need to see a doctor.
Do you have medical insurance ?
This is covered as *being sick*.

2. Do you mental health/ addiction coverage ?
Have your doctor submit a form to your
insurance seeking inpatence rehab.
6 weeks off .. You get well .. You get your life.
You've been distracted by addiction and your killing yourself.

You can lurk AA .. but if it was easy .. everyone could quit.

Even if you don't have coverage .. $12000 rehab is less than death
or
lawyer/ court fee when you kill a family of 4.

2 years + . Changed my life . Happy, sober . Alive.

"chris" <jcmlilley@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:454593e8$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Please please could someone help me with advice about liver disease. I
> have been reading various websites about it and am absolutely scared to
> death. I need info from people who have been there please.

I had sclerosis of the liver so I will poke in my twupenny worth.
>
> I have been a heavy drinker for some time, and although I have had
> elevated blood tests it hasn't stopped me.
>
> However recently I have been drinkng excessively even by my standards, and
> am now getting scary symptoms. The main one being an ache in my stomach
> just below my right hand side ribs. I also have pains in my back which
> feel like regular back pain, but have been persistant and move about a bit
> but is mainly on my right hand side of my body and slightly to the rear at
> about rib level. I am also vomiting, even though I have not had a drink
> for a couple of days now. It is a clear liquid and I am guessing it is
> bile.
>
> Please please could somebody tell me if they had these symptoms and
> whether the problem is liver disease. I am hoping that it is just my body
> still flushing away the toxins of the past. But I am really scared.

There are many symptoms to live desease but what you're experiencing are
indicating problems with your liver and kidneys. I had the pains and the
vomiting. I also was unable to eat, got confused a lot, itchy skin was a
bitch too. I went to see my doctor and he gave me ten months to live if i
did not stop drinking as I had schlerosis and pneumonia. I couldn't stop on
my own so I went to AA and stayed sober. one by one the symptoms diappeared.
within three months the liver desease and phumonia had gone and I felt good
but I couldn;t start drinking again as I no longer had the tolerence for it.
Lay off the booze and get help if you need it.


>
>
> Sorry for the gory details
>
> Chris
>

"chris" <jcmlilley@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:45473f8b$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Yes do need help to stop. However I have not had a drink in 3 days now and
> the pains are subsiding. Don;t know if I am out of the woods yet though.
> Talked to an ex Alcoholic (if you can ever be an ex alchy) and he told me
> a few home truths. Now I have a shoulder to cry on, I am hoping he will
> support me as he has been there and done that. Thats experience a doctor
> can't replace

once you've damaged your liver you will never be far away from the woods.
You can make a complete recovery but you will never be able to abuse your
body with that much alcohol again.
>
> Thanks for all that replied. Your posts are a great therapy
>
>
> "readandpostrosie" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:s0p1h.42342$cc3.26213@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> you would be amazed at the changes your body will make, IF and WHEN you
>> stop drinking.
>> so you need help to stop?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "chris" <jcmlilley@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:454593e8$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>> Please please could someone help me with advice about liver disease. I
>>> have been reading various websites about it and am absolutely scared to
>>> death. I need info from people who have been there please.
>>>
>>> I have been a heavy drinker for some time, and although I have had
>>> elevated blood tests it hasn't stopped me.
>>>
>>> However recently I have been drinkng excessively even by my standards,
>>> and am now getting scary symptoms. The main one being an ache in my
>>> stomach just below my right hand side ribs. I also have pains in my back
>>> which feel like regular back pain, but have been persistant and move
>>> about a bit but is mainly on my right hand side of my body and slightly
>>> to the rear at about rib level. I am also vomiting, even though I have
>>> not had a drink for a couple of days now. It is a clear liquid and I am
>>> guessing it is bile.
>>>
>>> Please please could somebody tell me if they had these symptoms and
>>> whether the problem is liver disease. I am hoping that it is just my
>>> body still flushing away the toxins of the past. But I am really
>>> scared.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry for the gory details
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:55:51 +0000, chris wrote:

> Please please could someone help me with advice about liver disease. I have
> been reading various websites about it and am absolutely scared to death. I
> need info from people who have been there please.
>
> I have been a heavy drinker for some time, and although I have had elevated
> blood tests it hasn't stopped me.

Of course it doesn't. As perfecting alcoholics, we're more afraid of
living than dying. ew... I might feel pain while I drink myself to death.
I better drink more to numb the pain. Assuming you have liver disease,
you will die quicker if you keep drinking. You _may_ recover if you stop.


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