I'm been attending meetings going on
4 years now, and I am 18 months sober,
the urge and temptation to even have a
drink is repulsive to me. When I first
got sober out of rehab, I went to
meetings at least every day or two
for quite awhile.

In the past year I moved, and I've attended
2 or 3 different meeting places very
infrequently, basically depending on the
time and place. They all stink of cigarettes
either outside or inside regardless because
it seems 80 % of addicted people smoke ...

The last couple of times, I really haven't
gotten anything out of going, nor really offered
much in sharing. It's just all became mandune to me,
and I really just can't wait for Vince, or Jonny, or
whomever to shut up from repeating the same stories.
I rarely say the Serenity or Lord's Pray whenever it
is started anymore and I've become a clock watcher.

I feel I'm *recovered* ... the hospital I spent time in
rehab drilled in to me that BB preaches "Recovered From",
not *Recovery forever". I've introduced myself as a
"Recovered Alcoholic" , and I feel I'm alone when I
have said that and a need to explain it.

Why am I writing this ? I'm tired of being tired
that I think I am sick anymore. I want to move on
and close this chapter. I've learned my lesson
all too well, and I don't want to constantly
be reminded of my *illness*. It's over.





----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----

On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 18:49:38 -0600, Lost in Space without a Map
<Lost@InSpace.com> wrote:

>Why am I writing this ? I'm tired of being tired
>that I think I am sick anymore. I want to move on
>and close this chapter. I've learned my lesson
>all too well, and I don't want to constantly
>be reminded of my *illness*. It's over.

Then do what you want to do....can't get any simpler than that.

__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com
<><><><><><><> The Worlds Uncensored News Source <><><><><><><><>

15 months ago, i moved away from my familiar recovering family of 12 years.
moving into a new community was quite different, but i knew that if i felt
"separate from" it was me that wasn't trying.

have you called your AA central office for a non smoking meeting place?
most churches have NO SMOKING clauses now, don't they?
have you asked your group members for locations of non-smoking meetings?

where i go to meetings now, i believe that 80% of us DON'T
smoke................................
we do have a basement room with a smoke eater, for those who smoke, when its
too cold to go outside.

IF however, you are wanting to leave your meetings, i would suggest that you
talk to your sponsor. do you have one?

rosie





--


have a good one!
http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sdog3kk.jpg





"Lost in Space without a Map" <Lost@InSpace.com> wrote in message
news:1140310123_4129@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>
>
> I'm been attending meetings going on
> 4 years now, and I am 18 months sober,
> the urge and temptation to even have a
> drink is repulsive to me. When I first
> got sober out of rehab, I went to
> meetings at least every day or two
> for quite awhile.
>
> In the past year I moved, and I've attended
> 2 or 3 different meeting places very
> infrequently, basically depending on the
> time and place. They all stink of cigarettes
> either outside or inside regardless because
> it seems 80 % of addicted people smoke ...
>
> The last couple of times, I really haven't
> gotten anything out of going, nor really offered
> much in sharing. It's just all became mandune to me,
> and I really just can't wait for Vince, or Jonny, or
> whomever to shut up from repeating the same stories.
> I rarely say the Serenity or Lord's Pray whenever it
> is started anymore and I've become a clock watcher.
>
> I feel I'm *recovered* ... the hospital I spent time in
> rehab drilled in to me that BB preaches "Recovered From",
> not *Recovery forever". I've introduced myself as a
> "Recovered Alcoholic" , and I feel I'm alone when I
> have said that and a need to explain it.
>
> Why am I writing this ? I'm tired of being tired
> that I think I am sick anymore. I want to move on
> and close this chapter. I've learned my lesson
> all too well, and I don't want to constantly
> be reminded of my *illness*. It's over.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet
> News==----
> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+
> Newsgroups
> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption
> =----

readandpostrosie wrote:
> 15 months ago, i moved away from my familiar recovering family of 12 years.
> moving into a new community was quite different, but i knew that if i felt
> "separate from" it was me that wasn't trying.
>

He doesn't want some recovery family. It gets tiresome fairly quickly,
as has been my experience. I get sick of hearing the same pity-pot crap
all the time. MOVE ON, it's the only way you grow, right?

> have you called your AA central office for a non smoking meeting place?
> most churches have NO SMOKING clauses now, don't they?
> have you asked your group members for locations of non-smoking meetings?
>

He doesn't want to go to meetings. He doesn't want AA. Did you finish
reading the post?

> where i go to meetings now, i believe that 80% of us DON'T
> smoke................................

> we do have a basement room with a smoke eater, for those who smoke, when its
> too cold to go outside.
>
> IF however, you are wanting to leave your meetings, i would suggest that you
> talk to your sponsor. do you have one?
>

This is why I hate AA and AA-centric people. It's like you're
brainwashed into thinking only in terms of The All Holy Program and
nothing else.

It's two trains of thought with this for me. I am glad it works for
you. Keep sober however you must.

But, it's not the only answer out there, as you who tote big books under
your arms seem to believe. All the pseudo-intellectual, regurgitated
anachronisms that pepper this organization are as sickening as booze.

*Bleagh*
*Hummpf*

Good bye. And I won't "see you in the rooms", haughty bastards. I
won't waste my time on it any more.

"Lost in Space without a Map" <Lost@InSpace.com> wrote in message
news:1140310123_4129@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>
>
> I'm been attending meetings going on
> 4 years now, and I am 18 months sober,
> the urge and temptation to even have a
> drink is repulsive to me. When I first
> got sober out of rehab, I went to
> meetings at least every day or two
> for quite awhile.
>
> In the past year I moved, and I've attended
> 2 or 3 different meeting places very
> infrequently, basically depending on the
> time and place. They all stink of cigarettes
> either outside or inside regardless because
> it seems 80 % of addicted people smoke ...
>
> The last couple of times, I really haven't
> gotten anything out of going, nor really offered
> much in sharing. It's just all became mandune to me,
> and I really just can't wait for Vince, or Jonny, or
> whomever to shut up from repeating the same stories.
> I rarely say the Serenity or Lord's Pray whenever it
> is started anymore and I've become a clock watcher.
>
> I feel I'm *recovered* ... the hospital I spent time in
> rehab drilled in to me that BB preaches "Recovered From",
> not *Recovery forever". I've introduced myself as a
> "Recovered Alcoholic" , and I feel I'm alone when I
> have said that and a need to explain it.
>
> Why am I writing this ? I'm tired of being tired
> that I think I am sick anymore. I want to move on
> and close this chapter. I've learned my lesson
> all too well, and I don't want to constantly
> be reminded of my *illness*. It's over.
>
>
You are correct, but what does the BB say we "recovered from?"
The phrase you have used is on the first page of the foreward to the first
edition and I while not positive, I do remember it being used again in
the next 182 pages. Is there any chance you took the time to read the
remainder of those pages?
Personally, I am recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body,
but even the doctors agree that I am still an alcoholic. Do you know what
my medical chart says?.... Diagnosis: Chronic functional alcoholic.
Prognosis: In remission.

Do what you want. Odds are you will do what you want anyway. But stop in
every now and then and let us know how that works out.

Bobby L

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:02:26 -0500, "Bobby L"
<bobbyl2000@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>You are correct, but what does the BB say we "recovered from?"

Alcoholism.

__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com
<><><><><><><> The Worlds Uncensored News Source <><><><><><><><>

> This is why I hate AA and AA-centric people..............................

hate? what a waste of energy!
if you have found another way to stop drinking, and are
happy......................WAY TO GO!


>
> It's two trains of thought with this for me. I am glad it works for you.
> Keep sober however you must.
>
> But, it's not the only answer out there..........................


never, never, never will you hear/read me say that AA is the only
answer...........................

rosie

Smitty wrote:

>
> He doesn't want to go to meetings. He doesn't want AA. Did you finish
> reading the post?
>

Easy Smitty. It's not I don't want ... rather,
I feel comfortable with my life that I want to step
away from it.
>
> This is why I hate AA and AA-centric people. It's like you're
> brainwashed into thinking only in terms of The All Holy Program and
> nothing else.
>
Some people take it to extremes and it is/has been their
survival tool. I have no problems with whatever floats
their boat to make it ...

> It's two trains of thought with this for me. I am glad it works for
> you. Keep sober however you must.
>

Hopefully your trains are going different directions
or merge into an orderly way ...

----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----

Lost in Space without a Map wrote:

>
>
> I'm been attending meetings going on
> 4 years now, and I am 18 months sober,
> the urge and temptation to even have a
> drink is repulsive to me. When I first
> got sober out of rehab, I went to
> meetings at least every day or two
> for quite awhile.
>
> In the past year I moved, and I've attended
> 2 or 3 different meeting places very
> infrequently, basically depending on the
> time and place. They all stink of cigarettes
> either outside or inside regardless because
> it seems 80 % of addicted people smoke ...
>
> The last couple of times, I really haven't
> gotten anything out of going, nor really offered
> much in sharing. It's just all became mandune to me,
> and I really just can't wait for Vince, or Jonny, or
> whomever to shut up from repeating the same stories.
> I rarely say the Serenity or Lord's Pray whenever it
> is started anymore and I've become a clock watcher.
>
> I feel I'm *recovered* ... the hospital I spent time in
> rehab drilled in to me that BB preaches "Recovered From",
> not *Recovery forever". I've introduced myself as a
> "Recovered Alcoholic" , and I feel I'm alone when I
> have said that and a need to explain it.
>
> Why am I writing this ? I'm tired of being tired
> that I think I am sick anymore. I want to move on
> and close this chapter. I've learned my lesson
> all too well, and I don't want to constantly
> be reminded of my *illness*. It's over.

One part of me sure knows how you feel -- except forthe smoking part. I
don't know where you live, but most of the meeting places where I live
don't allow smoking. In some cases it's group conscience, in others it's
house rules. And I've met some virulently anti-smoking A.A's, too. Drive
me nuts sometimes :-)

Whatever. Can't tell you how many times I've tuned out Joe Blow and Jane
Doe as they prattle on or preach. But there are also times when I've
been moved by what people share. Really ID with it. Like a guy once told
me, "If you don't like you hear at one meeting, don't drink and try
another one." Never know what you might hear.

I heartily agree that A.A.'s not the only way to get sober. A.A worked
for me, but it may not work for you in the long run. I've been sober 20
years and not all of it's been a walk in the park. There have been long
stretches when I've really been alienated from A.A -- the fellowship
part. But the program kept me hanging until the people part got
straightened out. That's just me. Your mileage may vary.

One thing though. I refer to alcoholism is a condition rather than a
disease. Like one guy mentioned about being "in remission," that's the
way I feel. Looking at it that way reminds me that it can come back if I
don't take care of myself. Since I also believe that you can go on
"dry drunks" (I've been on a few) it's important that whatever you do to
keep yourself away from booze and evolve as a person, you're consistent.
For some folks, it's consistent participation in A.A. For others, it's
some of the other support groups, church, what have you.

Guess my opinion and experience is that if you believe you're an
alcoholic, the book is never closed on alcoholism. One chapter ends.
Another begins. Of your life story, that is. But your drinking
experience stays with you. Hopefully, the sober experience will too.

Much good luck to you

i.bldg.

Bobby L wrote:

> Diagnosis: Chronic functional alcoholic.
> Prognosis: In remission.
>
> But stop in
> every now and then and let us know how that works out.
>
> Bobby L
>
>


I am too .. and I will !

----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----