Stella wrote:
>
> Bry <noone@nowhere.net> wrote in news:en3pf.1517$Vr.632@fe06.lga:
>
>
>>is christmas over yet? Only nice part of it i get
>>a week off of work. But otherwise bahumbug. 2006
>>coming up. Isn't that crazy! Another year of
>>looking at my life wondering if i ever really made
>>a difference to anyone/anything. 2005 i did manage
>>to quit smoking, so for once i did fulfil a new
>>year resolution. I refuse to make a resolution
>>for this year that will eventually amount to failure.
>>
>>Why are we here? What purpose we serve? I think
>>were just aliens, and the aliens are the real
>>humans. There is a conspiracy. We are part of an
>>experiment. The humans are messing with us aliens
>>in other words? Were guinea pigs for there
>>experiment. Christmas is make believe. Humans
>>brainwashed us to think what is fiction is real.
>>I am not real you are not real. We are not real.
>> We are as real as santa claus.
>>
>>I went to walmart today looked at the aquarium
>>setups. 10 to 1 my landlord won't let me have
>>fish but i am going to ask it's not like i'm going
>>to put up a 100 gallon aquarium but i want
>>something better then a little fishbowl, but if i
>>can only get a fishbowl so be it.
>>
>>No santa claus, no christmas, no new year. It's
>>all fake, and i will prove it!
>>
>>Bry
>>
>>
>
>
> Hiya
>
> That's cool you quit smoking, i quit smoking 2 years ago but I'm still a
> fecking alky. Christmas gets on my tits too. It's just another excuse
> for the capitalists to exploit the working class and everyone else too.
> I hope you can prove it is all fake.
>
> Anyway I'm reading this newsgroup for some ideas on stopping drinking,
> but it just seems to be a big barney between some people who think that
> AA is the best thing since sliced bread and some other people who
> wouldn't piss on AA if it was on fire. What's a pisshead supposed to
> think eh? Blame the aliens and have another vodka seems to be the safest
> solution...
>
> Cheers and bah humbug to you too!
>
> Stella
>
yes the AA debate will go on and on. I'm still
stuck in the middle.

"Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@knickers.yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:43a70744_1@news.iprimus.com.au:

>
>
> "Stella" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:766dnfFR8ctWYTvenZ2dnUVZ8qCdnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>
>> Bry <noone@nowhere.net> wrote in news:en3pf.1517$Vr.632@fe06.lga:
>>
>>> is christmas over yet? Only nice part of it i get
>>> a week off of work. But otherwise bahumbug. 2006
>>> coming up. Isn't that crazy! Another year of
>>> looking at my life wondering if i ever really made
>>> a difference to anyone/anything. 2005 i did manage
>>> to quit smoking, so for once i did fulfil a new
>>> year resolution. I refuse to make a resolution
>>> for this year that will eventually amount to failure.
>>>
>>> Why are we here? What purpose we serve? I think
>>> were just aliens, and the aliens are the real
>>> humans. There is a conspiracy. We are part of an
>>> experiment. The humans are messing with us aliens
>>> in other words? Were guinea pigs for there
>>> experiment. Christmas is make believe. Humans
>>> brainwashed us to think what is fiction is real.
>>> I am not real you are not real. We are not real.
>>> We are as real as santa claus.
>>>
>>> I went to walmart today looked at the aquarium
>>> setups. 10 to 1 my landlord won't let me have
>>> fish but i am going to ask it's not like i'm going
>>> to put up a 100 gallon aquarium but i want
>>> something better then a little fishbowl, but if i
>>> can only get a fishbowl so be it.
>>>
>>> No santa claus, no christmas, no new year. It's
>>> all fake, and i will prove it!
>>>
>>> Bry
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hiya
>>
>> That's cool you quit smoking, i quit smoking 2 years ago but I'm
>> still a fecking alky. Christmas gets on my tits too. It's just
>> another excuse for the capitalists to exploit the working class and
>> everyone else too. I hope you can prove it is all fake.
>>
>> Anyway I'm reading this newsgroup for some ideas on stopping
>> drinking, but it just seems to be a big barney between some people
>> who think that AA is the best thing since sliced bread and some other
>> people who wouldn't piss on AA if it was on fire. What's a pisshead
>> supposed to think eh? Blame the aliens and have another vodka seems
>> to be the safest solution...
>>
>
>
> hahahaha, I quit smoking almost 2 years ago, and used to be a pisshead
> too. Bet you were always gunna have that ole vodka anyway, 'cos I know
> how things can so easily seem however we choose them to seem.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>

Well... yeah you're right. I don't mean this newsgroup forces vodka
down my throat, but I can see how my previous reply makes it seem that
way. You'll have to blame that on the vodkas I had drunk previous to
writing that reply. Or some other bullshit. I suppose the question is
how do I not drink the first vodka.... Cos you'd think it would be easy,
don't have a drink you fucking idiot, but I'm sure you people out there
will know, how you don't want to drink and then you HAVE to drink.. and
the rest is history.

Cheers

Stella

>I suppose the question is
>how do I not drink the first vodka.... Cos you'd think it would be easy,
>don't have a drink you fucking idiot, but I'm sure you people out there
>will know, how you don't want to drink and then you HAVE to drink.. and
>the rest is history.

Well... Stella, thats the first hurdle we all faced ... avoiding
the first one of the day. Stay tuned. The pissheads are lurking
close by. How the Dts' this morning ?

"Stella" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@knickers.yahoo.com.au> wrote in
> news:43a70744_1@news.iprimus.com.au:
>
>>
>>
>> "Stella" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:766dnfFR8ctWYTvenZ2dnUVZ8qCdnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>
>>> Bry <noone@nowhere.net> wrote in news:en3pf.1517$Vr.632@fe06.lga:
>>>
>>>> is christmas over yet? Only nice part of it i get
>>>> a week off of work. But otherwise bahumbug. 2006
>>>> coming up. Isn't that crazy! Another year of
>>>> looking at my life wondering if i ever really made
>>>> a difference to anyone/anything. 2005 i did manage
>>>> to quit smoking, so for once i did fulfil a new
>>>> year resolution. I refuse to make a resolution
>>>> for this year that will eventually amount to failure.
>>>>
>>>> Why are we here? What purpose we serve? I think
>>>> were just aliens, and the aliens are the real
>>>> humans. There is a conspiracy. We are part of an
>>>> experiment. The humans are messing with us aliens
>>>> in other words? Were guinea pigs for there
>>>> experiment. Christmas is make believe. Humans
>>>> brainwashed us to think what is fiction is real.
>>>> I am not real you are not real. We are not real.
>>>> We are as real as santa claus.
>>>>
>>>> I went to walmart today looked at the aquarium
>>>> setups. 10 to 1 my landlord won't let me have
>>>> fish but i am going to ask it's not like i'm going
>>>> to put up a 100 gallon aquarium but i want
>>>> something better then a little fishbowl, but if i
>>>> can only get a fishbowl so be it.
>>>>
>>>> No santa claus, no christmas, no new year. It's
>>>> all fake, and i will prove it!
>>>>
>>>> Bry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hiya
>>>
>>> That's cool you quit smoking, i quit smoking 2 years ago but I'm
>>> still a fecking alky. Christmas gets on my tits too. It's just
>>> another excuse for the capitalists to exploit the working class and
>>> everyone else too. I hope you can prove it is all fake.
>>>
>>> Anyway I'm reading this newsgroup for some ideas on stopping
>>> drinking, but it just seems to be a big barney between some people
>>> who think that AA is the best thing since sliced bread and some other
>>> people who wouldn't piss on AA if it was on fire. What's a pisshead
>>> supposed to think eh? Blame the aliens and have another vodka seems
>>> to be the safest solution...
>>>
>>
>>
>> hahahaha, I quit smoking almost 2 years ago, and used to be a pisshead
>> too. Bet you were always gunna have that ole vodka anyway, 'cos I know
>> how things can so easily seem however we choose them to seem.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Well... yeah you're right. I don't mean this newsgroup forces vodka
> down my throat, but I can see how my previous reply makes it seem that
> way. You'll have to blame that on the vodkas I had drunk previous to
> writing that reply. Or some other bullshit. I suppose the question is
> how do I not drink the first vodka.... Cos you'd think it would be easy,
> don't have a drink you fucking idiot, but I'm sure you people out there
> will know, how you don't want to drink and then you HAVE to drink.. and
> the rest is history.
>

Jeez, Stella, I can't let this opportunity slip by without pasting this
testimony that sat forgotten in my computer during countless pro and con
AA positions I've taken in smartarse arguments around these newsgroups.
Here goes:-

Early one New Years Eve, I drove to an AA meeting, drunk, to snip one of
the slippers for my NYE drinks. While waiting for the babble to end, I saw
the 12 steps on a wall banner and started taking them. Had taken step
three by the time I could snip someone, but I no longer needed a drink,
took all the steps sober and have never needed a drink since.

And that's it!

Of coarse, that seems far too simple to not have a catch lurking
somewhere, and even after more than a decade later, as far as I can see,
that's the catch.

Despite my arranging multitudes of necessarily complicated and sometimes
dramatic digressions seemingly essential for a man of my self important
uniquity. Despite "humble" and "caring" AAers (wrongly) insisting their
pet digressions were not diversions but essentials.

My recovery from a once seemingly hopeless state of body and mind actually
was as simple as taking the directions http://tinyurl.com/8py4u and giving
them my best shot, regardless of whether I was having fun, or not.

Bob