"Kai Ruuska" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> rosie read n' post kirjoitti:
>> "Kai Ruuska" <soberon@luukku.com> wrote in message
>> news:dnhi39$jsp$1@phys-news4.kolumbus.fi...
>>>rosie read n' post kirjoitti:
>>>
>>>>that would not be sobriety for me.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Why not? If I get an injury while running and consequently my leg
>>>hurts, why would it not be "sober" for me to have a pain killer?
>>>
> > did you deliberately miss my point?
> > taking pain meds TO GET HIGH, vs. taking pain meds when in pain.
> >
>
> Nowhere in either the original question or your post was "getting
> high" mentioned. The talk was about "taking pain killers that
> weren't prescribed". Oh, BTW, do you mean it's okay to take pain
> meds TO GET HIGH as long as they're prescribed?
>

Rosie is stoically surviving a miserable dilemma. According to what
can be gleaned in between her dedicated pastings of smarm, remaining
dry while purporting to be happy, joyous, and free became more than a
little tiresome. After about five years her serotonin level was
proven depleted to the point of clinical depression.
"rosie read n' post" wrote
|/ i was five years sober when i was diagnosed as a depressive, and
|/ started antidepressants......

Rather than adopt that rigorous self honesty AA business and desist
from pretence,
rosie wrote:
| you will not find one post of mine, that suggests doing the THIRD
| STEP for what to me is an obvious mental health issue.
|
| grow up!
http://tinyurl.com/2pvpx

Instead, Rosie opted for a chemical solution. Naturally, as is
apparently usual with drug addiction, instead of her problem being
solved, it's exacerbated. Increasingly stronger and different drugs
are "necessary" to lift Rosie out of her perpetual misery.
|/ ............i am still on them to this day.
|/ (with short breaks in-between med/dosage change)

Today, decades after first purporting to be happy, joyous, and free,
Rosie's dilemma of denial is how to proclaim that drugs, sanctified
by any "doctor," in whose interests it is to prescribe them, raise
her up from her perpetual misery *without* her getting higher.
From: "rosie readandpost"
| YES, whatever works!
| i belong to the "old school" of counting sobriety from the LAST
| drink/drug

Bob

From: "readandpost" <readandpost...@yahoo.com>
| re-enforcing the knowledge that a DRUG IS A DRUG and that JUNKIE
| THINKING is universal where DRUGS are concerned!

"rosie read n' post" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| ROTFLMAO!
| isn't it alcoholics that keep doing the same thing, but expect
| different results?
|

Robert McGregor <robert_mcgregor@knickers.yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:43a00ab2_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> "Kai Ruuska" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:dnodd2$l4v$1@phys-news4.kolumbus.fi...
> > rosie read n' post kirjoitti:
> >> "Kai Ruuska" <soberon@luukku.com> wrote in message
> >> news:dnhi39$jsp$1@phys-news4.kolumbus.fi...
> >>>rosie read n' post kirjoitti:
> >>>
> >>>>that would not be sobriety for me.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Why not? If I get an injury while running and consequently my leg
> >>>hurts, why would it not be "sober" for me to have a pain killer?
> >>>
> > > did you deliberately miss my point?
> > > taking pain meds TO GET HIGH, vs. taking pain meds when in pain.
> > >
> >
> > Nowhere in either the original question or your post was "getting
> > high" mentioned. The talk was about "taking pain killers that
> > weren't prescribed". Oh, BTW, do you mean it's okay to take pain
> > meds TO GET HIGH as long as they're prescribed?
> >
>
> Rosie is stoically surviving a miserable dilemma. According to what
> can be gleaned in between her dedicated pastings of smarm, remaining
> dry while purporting to be happy, joyous, and free became more than a
> little tiresome. After about five years her serotonin level was
> proven depleted to the point of clinical depression.
> "rosie read n' post" wrote
> |/ i was five years sober when i was diagnosed as a depressive, and
> |/ started antidepressants......
>
> Rather than adopt that rigorous self honesty AA business and desist
> from pretence,
> rosie wrote:
> | you will not find one post of mine, that suggests doing the THIRD
> | STEP for what to me is an obvious mental health issue.
> |
> | grow up!
> http://tinyurl.com/2pvpx
>
> Instead, Rosie opted for a chemical solution. Naturally, as is
> apparently usual with drug addiction, instead of her problem being
> solved, it's exacerbated. Increasingly stronger and different drugs
> are "necessary" to lift Rosie out of her perpetual misery.
> |/ ............i am still on them to this day.
> |/ (with short breaks in-between med/dosage change)
>
> Today, decades after first purporting to be happy, joyous, and free,
> Rosie's dilemma of denial is how to proclaim that drugs, sanctified
> by any "doctor," in whose interests it is to prescribe them, raise
> her up from her perpetual misery *without* her getting higher.
> From: "rosie readandpost"
> | YES, whatever works!
> | i belong to the "old school" of counting sobriety from the LAST
> | drink/drug
>
> Bob

As soon as Edmonton is a tropical paradise full of movie stars and I happen
to think I'm Jesus Christ, that's when I consider cutting back on the
Effexor, Bob...:-)


>
> From: "readandpost" <readandpost...@yahoo.com>
> | re-enforcing the knowledge that a DRUG IS A DRUG and that JUNKIE
> | THINKING is universal where DRUGS are concerned!
>
> "rosie read n' post" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> | ROTFLMAO!
> | isn't it alcoholics that keep doing the same thing, but expect
> | different results?
> |
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

"stuart" <fred@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:yJUnf.256509$ir4.159281@edtnps90...
>
> As soon as Edmonton is a tropical paradise full of movie stars and
> I happen
> to think I'm Jesus Christ, that's when I consider cutting back on
> the
> Effexor, Bob...:-)
>

Jeez, wonder which of the other nine "apostles" is writing scripts
for that one!

Bob

"stuart" <fred@nospam.com> wrote in message
http://tinyurl.com/asdly
>Ten of us share the same email and usenet identity,

Robert McGregor <robert_mcgregor@knickers.yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:43a021ea_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>
> "stuart" <fred@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:yJUnf.256509$ir4.159281@edtnps90...
> >
> > As soon as Edmonton is a tropical paradise full of movie stars and
> > I happen
> > to think I'm Jesus Christ, that's when I consider cutting back on
> > the
> > Effexor, Bob...:-)
> >
>
> Jeez, wonder which of the other nine "apostles" is writing scripts
> for that one!
>
> Bob

You know Bob, I figure you got things pretty good living in Aussieland
there. Temperate climate, lots of sunshine. I figure you would be really
interested in alcoholism up here in what is referred to as the "Land of the
Midnight Sun" Quaint eh? It's also the "Land of the perennial night-time" at
other times during the year. Really does play havoc with the Vit D and
serotonin levels. I personally don't use anti-depressants, I learned a long
time ago to take advantage of the hour or two of brighter sunlight during
the day to get outside no matter how cold.

Michelin X-Ice tires also helps avoid getting into worse injuries in the
vehicle in winter as well, Bob. Just a tip for you.

PS we got a new fellow from Libya with us now and I noticed he's already
using the email...

Fred, Bob, Ryhad and the rest of the gang


>
> "stuart" <fred@nospam.com> wrote in message
> http://tinyurl.com/asdly
> >Ten of us share the same email and usenet identity,
>
>

"stuart" <fred@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:yJUnf.256509$ir4.159281@edtnps90...
>
> Robert McGregor <robert_mcgregor@knickers.yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:43a00ab2_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>> "Kai Ruuska" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:dnodd2$l4v$1@phys-news4.kolumbus.fi...
>> > rosie read n' post kirjoitti:
>> >> "Kai Ruuska" <soberon@luukku.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:dnhi39$jsp$1@phys-news4.kolumbus.fi...
>> >>>rosie read n' post kirjoitti:
>> >>>
>> >>>>that would not be sobriety for me.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Why not? If I get an injury while running and consequently my leg
>> >>>hurts, why would it not be "sober" for me to have a pain killer?
>> >>>
>> > > did you deliberately miss my point?
>> > > taking pain meds TO GET HIGH, vs. taking pain meds when in pain.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Nowhere in either the original question or your post was "getting
>> > high" mentioned. The talk was about "taking pain killers that
>> > weren't prescribed". Oh, BTW, do you mean it's okay to take pain
>> > meds TO GET HIGH as long as they're prescribed?
>> >
>>
>> Rosie is stoically surviving a miserable dilemma. According to what
>> can be gleaned in between her dedicated pastings of smarm, remaining
>> dry while purporting to be happy, joyous, and free became more than a
>> little tiresome. After about five years her serotonin level was
>> proven depleted to the point of clinical depression.
>> "rosie read n' post" wrote
>> |/ i was five years sober when i was diagnosed as a depressive, and
>> |/ started antidepressants......
>>
>> Rather than adopt that rigorous self honesty AA business and desist
>> from pretence,
>> rosie wrote:
>> | you will not find one post of mine, that suggests doing the THIRD
>> | STEP for what to me is an obvious mental health issue.
>> |
>> | grow up!
>> http://tinyurl.com/2pvpx
>>
>> Instead, Rosie opted for a chemical solution. Naturally, as is
>> apparently usual with drug addiction, instead of her problem being
>> solved, it's exacerbated. Increasingly stronger and different drugs
>> are "necessary" to lift Rosie out of her perpetual misery.
>> |/ ............i am still on them to this day.
>> |/ (with short breaks in-between med/dosage change)
>>
>> Today, decades after first purporting to be happy, joyous, and free,
>> Rosie's dilemma of denial is how to proclaim that drugs, sanctified
>> by any "doctor," in whose interests it is to prescribe them, raise
>> her up from her perpetual misery *without* her getting higher.
>> From: "rosie readandpost"
>> | YES, whatever works!
>> | i belong to the "old school" of counting sobriety from the LAST
>> | drink/drug
>>
>> Bob
>
> As soon as Edmonton is a tropical paradise full of movie stars and I
> happen
> to think I'm Jesus Christ, that's when I consider cutting back on the
> Effexor, Bob...:-)
>

Well, it's Dec. 14 and, here in Edmonton, in OUR yard, there is barely 1/4
inch of snow.



>
>>
>> From: "readandpost" <readandpost...@yahoo.com>
>> | re-enforcing the knowledge that a DRUG IS A DRUG and that JUNKIE
>> | THINKING is universal where DRUGS are concerned!
>>
>> "rosie read n' post" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> | ROTFLMAO!
>> | isn't it alcoholics that keep doing the same thing, but expect
>> | different results?
>> |
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>