Another Cultist Subliminal Message from AA: Boo wrote:

> Ken wrote:
>
>> Another Cultist Subliminal Message from AA: Boo wrote:
>>
>>> Ken wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> For example, when Audrey Kishline quit MM, joined AA and several
>>>> months later was the cause of a fatal crash, 12-Step front group
>>>> NCADD lost no time in putting out press releases that made it look
>>>> like she was an MM member and that MM was responsible while never
>>>> mentioning that at the time of the accident she had been an AA
>>>> member for months. That is disgusting.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing Ken.
>>> Still pushing that MM crap and .. and it's poor results.
>>> All I see is that neither program worked for her.
>>> Which program do you think encourged her more to
>>> quit all together or maybe encourged her to take one
>>> more for the road because she was still within
>>> the moderated limits ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Another,
>>
>> If you want to argue which one she did better in, I'm game. She was
>> in MM for ten years and it was only after a few months in AA, as an
>> AA member that she got stupid drunk and killed two people on the
>> highway.
>> Just what point are you trying to make with your post above?
>> Ken Ragge
>> http://www.morerevealed.com
>
>
> Thanks for sharing Ken.
>
> You can't argue with a dead body.
>
> Besides you brought her up *again*, not me.
>
> Neither group put that drink or the car keys
> in her hand and unless you were personally
> there for 10 plus years watching all her
> behaviours up to the very end, you can't
> possibly argue/prove anything in your "game".
>
>
Another,

What you write might, and I stress might, make more sense if you would
actually read a thread and taking maybe just a moment to think before
responding to it.

Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com

Ken wrote:

>>
> Another,
>
> What you write might, and I stress might, make more sense if you would
> actually read a thread and taking maybe just a moment to think before
> responding to it.
>

Thanks for sharing, Ken.

I still wonder why you troll here
provoking others with your lies and
bullshit. What are you really offering ?

You bring up this murder every chance
you get and blame AA on her drinking
and killing. IF she would have spent 10 years in AA
sober rather than in MM drinking, you could have
a point.

Another Cultist Subliminal Message from AA: Boo wrote:

> Ken wrote:
>
>>>
>> Another,
>>
>> What you write might, and I stress might, make more sense if you
>> would actually read a thread and taking maybe just a moment to think
>> before responding to it.
>>
>
> Thanks for sharing, Ken.
>
> I still wonder why you troll here
> provoking others with your lies and
> bullshit. What are you really offering ?

Another,

Why do you think I lie? Because I don't praise your 12-Steps? Much of
what I say about AA history is from the AA conference-approved
literature. Much of what I say about the program can be cited from AA
conference-approved literature. Most of the rest can be cited from
either the scientific literature, from newspapers (e.g. the news story
that you object to so much that was released by the NCADD) and from
Oxford Group sources.

>
> You bring up this murder every chance
> you get and blame AA on her drinking
> and killing.

Most certainly not every chance I get but what the Step front group
NCADD did should be as widely publicized as their disgusting, misleading
information.

> IF she would have spent 10 years in AA
> sober rather than in MM drinking, you could have
> a point.

Do you mean ten years in AA sober before she got drunk and killed two
people?

The issue isn't that she is an AA member. The issue is that the Stepper
front group NCADD went all out to publicize a person who had left MM and
joined AA and killed two people as an AA as if she wasn't an AA but an
MM member. Don't you get it?

Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com