Hi all, I'm Laura and I'm an alcoholic. What the heck is this group? I read
through the last 5 or so days of posts and have found myself confused about
what is happening here. Is this group in support of recovery via the 12
steps of AA or not? Is this group using the Big Book or what? I stumbled in
here hoping to find some drunks staying sober. Perhaps I have and perhaps
that's why I'm confused. For those that have an issue with the 12 steps, and
don't like what Bill and Bob were about, to bad. It's working for me and has
been for 13 and a half years.
If I'm in the wrong place can some one kindly tell me where I might find
friends of Bill W.? (be nice)

--
LRM
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the
experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination
to do so.
Douglas Adams

"LRM" <pissinginthewind@yourmxrecord.com> wrote in message
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> For those that have an issue with the 12 steps, and don't like what
> Bill and Bob were about, to bad.


> Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
> from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their
> apparent disinclination to do so.

hahahahahahahaha

That contradiction's too funny, looks like you belong here; if you
can just let go of the dreaded disinclination

Welcome!

Bob.

this is NOT an AA group.
http://www.aa-intergroup.org/ this is where you will find AA!

--

dear mr. bush,
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/in...d=4924#mistake



"LRM" <pissinginthewind@yourmxrecord.com> wrote in message
news:5cygf.660$fO5.154@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Hi all, I'm Laura and I'm an alcoholic. What the heck is this group? I
> read through the last 5 or so days of posts and have found myself
> confused about what is happening here. Is this group in support of
> recovery via the 12 steps of AA or not? Is this group using the Big
> Book or what? I stumbled in here hoping to find some drunks staying
> sober. Perhaps I have and perhaps that's why I'm confused. For those
> that have an issue with the 12 steps, and don't like what Bill and Bob
> were about, to bad. It's working for me and has been for 13 and a half
> years.
> If I'm in the wrong place can some one kindly tell me where I might
> find friends of Bill W.? (be nice)
>
> --
> LRM
> Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
> from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
> disinclination to do so.
> Douglas Adams
>

"LRM" <pissinginthewind@yourmxrecord.com> wrote in message
news:5cygf.660$fO5.154@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Hi all, I'm Laura and I'm an alcoholic. What the heck is this group?

I'm relatively new myself, but apparently this group exists solely for the
pleasure of "Robert McGregor" so he can have somewhere to shit on everybody
and feel superior to the rest of us. I'm glad to be part of such a fine
public service ... ;-)

"LRM" <pissinginthewind@yourmxrecord.com> wrote in message
news:5cygf.660$fO5.154@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Hi all, I'm Laura and I'm an alcoholic. What the heck is this group? I
read
> through the last 5 or so days of posts and have found myself confused
about
> what is happening here. Is this group in support of recovery via the 12
> steps of AA or not? Is this group using the Big Book or what? I stumbled
in
> here hoping to find some drunks staying sober. Perhaps I have and perhaps
> that's why I'm confused. For those that have an issue with the 12 steps,
and
> don't like what Bill and Bob were about, to bad. It's working for me and
has
> been for 13 and a half years.
> If I'm in the wrong place can some one kindly tell me where I might find
> friends of Bill W.? (be nice)
>

If your looking for a pro AA group you're in the wrong place. sadly i don't
think AA has a newsgroup. As for the people on here, not all are in AA and
not all can credit AA 100% for their recovery. My sobriety is down to AA, my
gods and myself. AA helps a lot of people but scares off a lot of people
too, especially those of religions other than Abrahamism based religions.

--
Darren
> --
> LRM
> Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from
the
> experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination
> to do so.
> Douglas Adams
>
>

"Sardonicus Rex" <dontaskiwonttell@leavemealone.com> wrote in message
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> "LRM" <pissinginthewind@yourmxrecord.com> wrote in message
> news:5cygf.660$fO5.154@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com. ..
>> Hi all, I'm Laura and I'm an alcoholic. What the heck is this group?
>
> I'm relatively new myself, but apparently this group exists solely for
> the
> pleasure of "Robert McGregor" so he can have somewhere to shit on
> everybody
> and feel superior to the rest of us. I'm glad to be part of such a
> fine
> public service ... ;-)
>
>

Hi Laura.

Many of our recovering in AA and share posts here and there. There are a
bunch of unpleasant posters who seem to want to see their own postings and
recognition, moreso than they want to help others. There are a few of us
who chime in when we think we can do another drunk some good. I haven't
found a better newsgroup and if you can look past the bitter posters, it can
be OK.

Rosie is the closest to doing any kind of "approved literature" work posting
excerpts from either Daily Reflections or the Big Book but we thank Rosie
for her service as there is no formalized kind of book study or anything
like that. Congratulations of your 13+ years. I'll have 6 months next
Tuesday and so far (fingers crossed) it seems to be working for me. I go to
3 or 4 meetings a week and check in (lurk) here every day if I can.

Good luck - welcome.

steve

"LRM" <pissinginthewind@yourmxrecord.com> wrote in message
news:5cygf.660$fO5.154@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Hi all, I'm Laura and I'm an alcoholic. What the heck is this group? I
> read through the last 5 or so days of posts and have found myself confused
> about what is happening here. Is this group in support of recovery via the
> 12 steps of AA or not? Is this group using the Big Book or what? I
> stumbled in here hoping to find some drunks staying sober. Perhaps I have
> and perhaps that's why I'm confused. For those that have an issue with the
> 12 steps, and don't like what Bill and Bob were about, to bad. It's
> working for me and has been for 13 and a half years.
> If I'm in the wrong place can some one kindly tell me where I might find
> friends of Bill W.? (be nice)
>
> --
> LRM
> Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from
> the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
> disinclination to do so.
> Douglas Adams
>

"LRM" <pissinginthewind@yourmxrecord.com> wrote in message
news:5cygf.660$fO5.154@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Hi all, I'm Laura and I'm an alcoholic. What the heck is this group? I
> read through the last 5 or so days of posts and have found myself confused
> about what is happening here. Is this group in support of recovery via the
> 12 steps of AA or not? Is this group using the Big Book or what? I
> stumbled in here hoping to find some drunks staying sober. Perhaps I have
> and perhaps that's why I'm confused. For those that have an issue with the
> 12 steps, and don't like what Bill and Bob were about, to bad. It's
> working for me and has been for 13 and a half years.
> If I'm in the wrong place can some one kindly tell me where I might find
> friends of Bill W.? (be nice)
>
> --
> LRM
> Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from
> the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
> disinclination to do so.
> Douglas Adams

Sorry, the correct question was "What is the stars?" from "Juno and the
Paycock by Sean O'Casey. On the other hand, that's an excellent Douglas
Adams quote.
Anyway, welcome to the group, such as it is. It's a place with a lot
of sand and slurry mixed in with lots of water but it occasionally does
yield a nugget or two. Actually, with a little practice (that you probably
already have from being in other net groups) you can spot the attack dogs
who will bark and snap at anything that is new or moves. Some may surprise
you. Bob, for instance, frequently seems to be abrasive but it's usually
part of cleaning off the coat of crap in which most of us wrap our
pronouncements. There's a reason that Brillo pads work.
No, it isn't predominantly an AA group. They're next door at
alt.recovery.aa -- there are quite a few of us, however, that do find AA and
meetings and such to be useful to a greater or lesser degree. We are,
however, mastly just what you said that you were looking for: some drinks
staying sober. Do you have things to contribute? Do you have things with
which we can help? Frequently, the two amount to about the same thing.
Dan

"We are, however, mastly just what you said that you were looking for:
some drinks staying sober." Should, of course, be, "We are, however, mostly
just what you said that you were looking for: some drunks staying sober."
I never claimed that I could type.


"Dan McGown" <dmcgown@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:hrudna17_-HPwx7enZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@adelphia.com...
>
> "LRM" <pissinginthewind@yourmxrecord.com> wrote in message
> news:5cygf.660$fO5.154@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com. ..
>> Hi all, I'm Laura and I'm an alcoholic. What the heck is this group? I
>> read through the last 5 or so days of posts and have found myself
>> confused about what is happening here. Is this group in support of
>> recovery via the 12 steps of AA or not? Is this group using the Big Book
>> or what? I stumbled in here hoping to find some drunks staying sober.
>> Perhaps I have and perhaps that's why I'm confused. For those that have
>> an issue with the 12 steps, and don't like what Bill and Bob were about,
>> to bad. It's working for me and has been for 13 and a half years.
>> If I'm in the wrong place can some one kindly tell me where I might find
>> friends of Bill W.? (be nice)
>>
>> --
>> LRM
>> Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from
>> the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
>> disinclination to do so.
>> Douglas Adams
>
> Sorry, the correct question was "What is the stars?" from "Juno and
> the Paycock by Sean O'Casey. On the other hand, that's an excellent
> Douglas Adams quote.
> Anyway, welcome to the group, such as it is. It's a place with a lot
> of sand and slurry mixed in with lots of water but it occasionally does
> yield a nugget or two. Actually, with a little practice (that you
> probably already have from being in other net groups) you can spot the
> attack dogs who will bark and snap at anything that is new or moves. Some
> may surprise you. Bob, for instance, frequently seems to be abrasive but
> it's usually part of cleaning off the coat of crap in which most of us
> wrap our pronouncements. There's a reason that Brillo pads work.
> No, it isn't predominantly an AA group. They're next door at
> alt.recovery.aa -- there are quite a few of us, however, that do find AA
> and meetings and such to be useful to a greater or lesser degree. We are,
> however, mastly just what you said that you were looking for: some drinks
> staying sober. Do you have things to contribute? Do you have things with
> which we can help? Frequently, the two amount to about the same thing.
> Dan
>
>

"Sardonicus Rex" <dontaskiwonttell@leavemealone.com> wrote in message
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> "LRM" <pissinginthewind@yourmxrecord.com> wrote in message
> news:5cygf.660$fO5.154@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com. ..
>> Hi all, I'm Laura and I'm an alcoholic. What the heck is this
>> group?
>
> I'm relatively new myself, but apparently this group exists solely
> for the
> pleasure of "Robert McGregor" so he can have somewhere to shit on
> everybody
> and feel superior to the rest of us. I'm glad to be part of such a
> fine
> public service ... ;-)
>

Jeez, you poor inferior thang.

Just exercise a little patience! Soon as the rose sees you're ready
to pluck; she'll rent you a poopandpost foil hat that promises
immunity all over Usenet.

Brother Superior